/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>$2 pb: hydrogenated oils, hfcs, palm oil, salt
>$5pb: peanuts (maybe salt)

If it has less chemicals and processed trash then pay more

I've never been picky about peanut butter, I'll eat up any brand of it. As for premium packaged bread, well, that's kind of a weird place between cheap sandwich bread and just baking your own. I always get the cheapest whole wheat bread and I'm happy with that.

Peanut butter is definitely worth it. I grew up eating the jif crap. The last couple years I've been eating real peanut and really like it. Tried Jif recently because I didn't have any good peanut butter and it was abysmal.
I'll admit it was easier to put on a banana at least.

>>12443324
>felony bread
No thanks

I've never found a cheaper brand of frozen waffles that tastes as good as Eggo.

>>12443324
When the cheap stuff is demonstrably inferior

>tinned fish
>bread
>tinned fruit
>meat
>pasta sauce
>packaged meals
>oil/butter

But with bread specifically, there's no excuse to buy a $6 loaf when you have at least 100 choices in your local supermarket. Thatextra $3 premium is merely going to a few nuts and seeds that you could just buy wholesale, or god forbid encourage you to bake your own loaf.

>>12443391
>12443391
maybe he doesnt want to consume enriched flour filled with preservatives

>>12443391
Well yea I agree but also Dave’s bread is still 360 cal/$ so I don’t mind paying a premium. When so many other foods I buy have a way lower cal/$ ratio.

Same with like rice, why would you buy generic when even the top brands still have over a 1000 cal/$ ratio.

Smdh

mostly anything non-fresh is indistinguishable to me. i'd rather be picky about produce and meat.

do you really think store brand has their own factory & parallel production pipeline? i can only assume it's all relabeled.

that Dave's bread sucks. I hate when bread is loaded with sunflower seeds and shit.

>>12443352
>hating based jif

>>12443372
Seriously? I find that every single cheap or store brand waffle is better than eggos.

>>12443324
I use Kerrygold butter when I want to make something extra delicious, but regular sweet cream butter works fine day to day.

>>12444835
Generally store brand stuff is relabeled from some other brand that costs a lot more, but Great Value tuna is awful.

I bought a loaf of bread for $7 from a bakery/deli once. The size of the loaf was 1.5 times the size of what you would normally find in the store. It was in fact far better tasting than any store bought bread I've ever eaten. I might do it again.

>>12443324
if its something that is usually consumed on its own or maybe another food product then go for regular brands. if you just need something as one ingredient in a recipe with shitloads of ingredients then get the house brand.

>>12445573
Kerrygold is based. Butter is one of the few things that I will spend a premium on because the flavor gap between actual butter and "65% hydrogenated vegetable oil butter-like spread" is massive. I always buy imported butter, whether it be Kerrygold or the generic imported.

>>12445573
>>12445677
Kerrygold is only worth buying if you live in a state that doesnt allow stores to sell raw dairy products. If thats not an option it isnt terrible.

>tfw bought $6.50 boule of rye porridge sourdough from a proper bakery in downtown, and it made me cry because it's so much better than my attempts at similar type of bread

You don't get ahead by buying cheap flour. Not to say you need to blow your was, but make sure you're getting the correct shit for what you're making. AP flour pizzas fucking suck.

i want dave to shoot his fat load on my face

>>12443324
I only buy "premium" brands other than bread because I can never use bread without preservatives fast enough

>>12443324
Butter. Spend the extra $4 and buy the good shit.
Salt. Up your fucking salt game.
Ice cream. Buy a maker and make it yourself cause it's next to impossible to find decent ice cream these days.

>>12443324
I prefer to spring for the "premium store brand".

>>12443324
It costs me £0.15 to make a fresh loaf of bread everyday, if you think $6 is cheap you must be beyond retarded

>>12443324
peanut butter, more like peanus butter haha
haha!

>>12443324
>tfw one of my favorite snacks is bananas and peanut butter
>tfw a peanut butter snob
>tfw was thinking about a banana peanut butter not 30 mins. ago
>tfw it's a thing

>>12443324

Try to find a local bakery. Price will be similar but the bread will have been baked fresh that day and will honestly just be plain better.

>>12443324

OLIVE OIL - most Americans can't identify the taste of rancid/knockoff olive oil, and it's a revelation once you get some decent stuff. If you want to be 100% sure you're good to go, grab some olive oil from California that has the Sensory Panel Certification on it and has a press date within the last year.

Butter - the good stuff is just so much better

Spices - I'll swing for Spice Island 99% of the time.

davie's cum bread

>>12443324
>calories per dollar

>>12443416
Why are you so invested in this "calories per dollar" argument to defend your frivolous spending habits? I'd say it's a shitty standard to use, but it's not even a fucking standard. Companies don't take calories into account when they decide what price they should slap on their products. If they did, bags of rice would cost a fortune while truffles would be a dime a dozen. No matter how you put it, you're wasting your money.

>>12446464
americans americans americans AMERICANS AMERICANS

>>12446518
>didn't even read past "Americans" to realize that the poster is likely an American being critical of his fellow countrymen rather than a foreigner being obsessed

Could you /pol/dditors at least finish reading a post before you decide to look stupid in a reply?

>>12446518

I mean I'm an American too but I had read about a study wherein Americans specifically were given rancid olive oil and the majority said, "yeah, that's just regular olive oil."

>>12446534
oh you read "about" a study

you wanna post that "study"? of course not since you're just completely making shit up

>>12446038
>I only buy "premium" brands other than bread because I can never use bread without preservatives fast enough
put your bread in the freezer. slices can be toasted frozen, but bagels should be thawed overnight in the fridge.

>>12446545

Had heard "about" it on Gastropod, which I consider a reliable source. It then took 30 seconds of googling to find the study directly and read the abstract.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0950329310001977

I don't have a login to read the full study, unfortunately.

>>12446561

Yeah that study doesn't say anything comparable to what you said whatsoever though

Try actually reading and comprehending next time

>>12446561
The article says nothing on rancid olive oil. It just talks about how consumers prefer popular brands and well-priced oil to anything else while experts prefer fruity tasting oil.

>>12446571

As I said, I don't have a login to read the full study. Every outlet that's reported on it, though, has said things such as...

"According to a consumer study from 2011, Americans actually preferred the taste of lower quality olive oil. And unfortunately, the olive oil industry might be pulling one over on all of us: A University of California, Davis, study from 2010 revealed that 69% of imported olive oils with the label "extra virgin" do not meet the requisite criteria. "

from https://www.mic.com/articles/150232/what-is-extra-virgin-olive-oil-evoo-rancid-pure

>>12446019
last time I made pizza dough it was with King Arthur AP flour and it was better than the chain pizzas in my town. You obviously don't know how to make, proof, and work your dough.

>>12446579
Article literally claims consumers don't depend on taste but on budget.

>>12446256
underrated post desu

>>12446579
>Every outlet that's reported on it, though, has said things such as...

You don't interpret science based on what "outlets" say about studies, which are typically always wrong and oversimplified. You read the study or you don't comment on it.

I have read the study, since I *do* read studies, and I know where to read this study, which is incredibly easy if you *do* read studies, indicating that you don't read studies

Stop having opinions based on 5 second sound bytes written by unpaid interns.

>>12444939
Really? Well to be fair, I haven't had waffles of any kind in a longass time. Maybe I pick up a couple boxes next week to test them.

>>12443343
Literally everything is made of chemicals. The way we perceive reality is from chemicals in our brain. Getting rid of chemicals IS LITERAL DEATH you idiot.

>>12444854
Jif is for people that live in trailer parks. Actually now I realize why it's so popular on /ck/

>>12446581
Got a good recipe? Any specific yeast you use?

>>12443343
Premium peanut butter is only worth it if you are too lazy to make your own or hate stirring it each time you open the container to re-emulsify.

>>12446464
>Spices - I'll swing for Spice Island 99% of the time.
I just buy bulk spices. The quality seems to be on par with stuff in jars.

>>12446230
I guess your time isn't worth shit either. Not everything is about face value.

>>12447476
You know what he means you semantic retard. His post is literally a clarification.

>>12446517
So Dave's isn't better than wonder bread? You moron

>>12444835
They do on a lot of goods, this is how the A&P (look it up zoomers) became the biggest grocer for generations.

>>12446546
Based. I buy like 3 loaves at a time and freeze all but one.

>>12447514
>hate stirring it each time you open the container to re-emulsify.
leave the jar upside down

>>12447531
How long do you think it takes to make bread, lmao.

>>12446587
Wow you read about olive grease. Now go kill yourself.

>>12447552
im a high class executive making million dollar deals ok? my time is very valubel. it has nothing to do with me not actually knowing how to bake bread.

>>12447476
Thanks. How long ago did you get your GED?

>>12447500
Hey I live in a trailer park so I can afford the stir peanut butter and Dave's bread, THANKS

>>12447552
If it takes longer than 30 minutes from printing the recipe to being done cleaning up, I'd just buy it from the store.

>>12447548
Or just eat peanut butter regularly instead of once a month.

>>12447552
Not him, but by high estimates it takes 20-30 minutes to make a loaf of bread without including proofing time, bake time or cleanup. Not everyone can be a worthless NEET like you. When I get home from work every day I don't want to bake fucking bread when I can just go to the store and buy a loaf once a week.

>>12443324
Cheese and charcuterie. If its quality stuff paying around $20 per lb is worth it. Its not the healthiest thing to make a meal out of anyways and the high quality stuff has such an intense and good flavor that little shavings and portions are all you need. Pair it with a fresh baked baguette and hnnnng

You have one second to explain why you haven't purchased a Piteba press to make your own peanut butter. Go on. I'm waiting.

>>12447627
Because I use a food processor to grind peanuts and then add peanut oil that's significantly cheaper to acquire because of the magic of high-volume industrial processing.

>>12447865
>adding peanut oil to your peanut butter
is this even legal

>>12447886
As long as you keep your mouth shut about it.

>>12447566
Gib job please. Willing to do your bidding for monies.

>>12447627
My coop already has a grinding machine if I want to do that.

>>12443324
way better than store brand, which imo tastes of very little

>>12446517
I really think you've failed to grasp the point. For really cheap foods like rice, the difference in quality rises very rapidly if you spend an extra five bucks. Contrast that with more expensive items like meat, where an extra 5 bucks isn't going to raise the quality by a whole lot. You'd need to spend a lot more to achieve the same effect

Or think of it this way. You could buy better rice, peanut butter, and bread or you could buy the shitty version of those products and spend your money on better beef. So in terms of what you're going to have in your house, spending more money on high calorie/$ foods you will be able to upgrade more items

>>12443324
>premium bread
usually no, imo, I get it if I'm making a nice recipe or something but for daily sandwiches and the like I just get "regular" bagged sandwich bread
for morning toast and stuff I get the big bags of plain square white bread from Costco and freeze them
>peanut butter
premium peanut butter tastes pretty good but I hate having to stir it. #1 reason I still get Jiffy/Peter Pan instead of Adams
>jelly
usually tastes the same from brand to brand but the quality/price is more evident in the texture
Kirkland jelly is nice and spreadable and Smuckers is like canned thanksgiving cranberry jelly that you have to cut into chunks and barely spreads at all

>>12443391
>tinned fish
definitely agree
I get the cheap sardines for mashing on toast but if I need whole ones the good stuff is noticeably better
the more stuff you mix an ingredient with/the more you have to process it/the more it's getting seasoned and the less the base flavor has to stand alone, the more you can get away with using a cheaper ingredient

>>12447500
I've had tons of different peanut butters and other nut butters and still like to keep a jar of Jif.

>>12446464
>>12447517
Amazon has some crazy good prices for bulk dried spices and even bulk fresh herbs probably depending on your area. They offer several different brands. Also Olive Nation has really good spices and extracts for a good price. I would use them over in-store and Amazon.

>>12443324
i like dave's bread but it's pretty expensive

if i can find similar style bread for cheaper i opt for that

Pasture raised eggs

>>12447575
>printing the recipe
Why would you print out the recipe? Are you 80?

>>12443324
likely never

>>12446581
King Arthur isn't a shit brand you imbecile. Try the same reciple with gold medal or store brand AP. When I say 'get the right flour' I'm talking about king Arthur...

>>12443324
>buy a nice blender and make your own peanut butter
premium over generic must-dos:
>bisquick
>Honey-Maid graham crackers
>others

>>12446561
>>12446561
hey, pssst. hey kid.
>https://www.sci-hub (dot) tw
every. peer. reviewed. journal. article. free.
paste your article title in the search field and away you go

>>12451267
yes, also >>12448083
i forgot about philly

raw dairy (milk, cheese, butter, etc.)
pasture-raised eggs
nut butters
chocolate

>>12446581
Now try it with King Arthur bread flour and you'll never go back to AP for pizza dough.