/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Literally everything humans do fucks with the climate.

Nothing besides population control will work, just fire bomb 2nd/3rd world countries and everything would be fixed.

>>12447725
It's just funny how Vegans think their fad diet can save the world lmao.

>>12447663
Explain to me what a vegan diet has to do with fucking fertilizer plants?

>>12447756
How do you think the plant matter vegans eat was grown? On love?

>>12447763
Do you understand what a fertilizer plant is?

>>12447763
You do know that the majority of crops grown are fed to fucking LIVESTOCK right?

>>12447725
Literally everything living organisms do fucks with the climate and it always vacillates. The amount of cattle being produced is trivial when you think about how in the past there were billions of wild ruminants like buffalo, auruchs, yaks, deer, elk, etc roaming freely across vast expanses of wild rangeland but over time all of this was replaced with dry land cereal crops which destroy soils, release sequestered carbon, and cost tonnes of oil to transport the goods needed to produce it, the tractors needed to tend it, and the transportation of the harvested goods to silos where they sit in cold storage powered by fossil fuels before it's sold on the market where its driven to a processing plant and mixed with all kinds of other garbage transported to the plant by fossil fuels and then is made, shipped to a wholesale distributor who aggregates product and then distributes it to stores via vans and trucks where a vegan consumer can then likely drive to pick up a soy bar for 5.99.

Meanwhile I eat a butchered cow my neighbor raised on pasture and i actually have a better than neutral carbon footprint.

yeah, i dont care

OP is literally retarded

>>12447814
Do you account for the methane gas the cow released? Grass fed cows grow slower than grain fed and fart more

>>12447814
>Big bad transportation boogeyman

>>12447763
based retard

>>12447937
Even if everyone went vegan there's still be significant demand for poop/fertilizer just re-purposing animals.

There's probably be somewhat less animals, but these new numbers show the difference is definitely much less than thought.

There is literally nothing we can do besides slaughter a bunch of humans, WW3 will start over something stupid and happen just for the sake of trimming the population because it'll be the only thing that can save us so far in climate change.

>>12447958
Its really simple as shown here >>12447945

Veganism + commitment to energy reduction

Your nihilist pseud complexity fallacy is really baseless

>>12447937
1.) Methane is majorly produced by farts but by belching as the grass is broken down in the rumen
2.) As afore mentioned the population of grass eating ungulates hasn't changed but the explosion of dry land farming for cereal crops and the billions of gallons of oil that make it feasible. And while I realize the argument you're angling for is that methane is more potent it simply doesn't compare to the massive amount of oil used all along the cereal crop supply chain.

>>12447958
You know. My green compost has been my fertilizer the last 5 years(good harvests too) I'm sure that has to be reproducible on a industry scale

>>12447945
>an unsourced bar chart
Id say its an appeal to authority but really not even that just an appeal to common assumptions made about the inherent veracity of statistics paired with a superficially authoritative picture to impress the shallow minded consumers likely to fall for the vegan meme in the first place.

>>12448002
It's made by clean metrics.
https://www.ewg.org/meateatersguide/a-meat-eaters-guide-to-climate-change-health-what-you-eat-matters/climate-and-environmental-impacts/ here you go

I'm too poor to care about how my food effects the environment

>>12448008
>Lamb has the greatest impact, generating 39.3 kg (86.4 lbs) of carbon dioxide equivalents (CO2e) for each kilo eaten – about 50 percent more than beef. While beef and lamb generate comparable amounts of methane and require similar quantities of feed, lamb generates more emissions per kilo in part because it produces less edible meat relative to the sheep’s live weight. Since just one percent of the meat consumed by Americans is lamb, however, it contributes very little to overall U.S. greenhouse gas emissions.

Lamb needs no feed other than grass and all of the meat and organs is edible while the rest of the hanging weight is wool (usable) and bones (very usable) also no mention if they accounted for carbon sequestration in permanent pasture by far the most common method used in sheep production
>Beef has the second-highest emissions, generating 27.1 kilos (59.6 lbs) of CO2e per kilo consumed. That’s more than twice the emissions of pork, nearly four times that of chicken and more than 13 times that of vegetable proteins such as beans, lentils and tofu. About 30 percent of the meat consumed in America is beef.

Again grass is all you need and even conventional farming only finishes a cow on grain for a few months of its 2 year life. Rest of the time is grazing on permanent pasture
>Cheese generates the third-highest emissions, 13.5 kilos (29.7 lbs) of CO2e per kilo eaten, so vegetarians who eat a lot of dairy aren’t off the hook. Less dense cheese (such as cottage) results in fewer greenhouse gases since it takes less milk to produce it.

Density has nothing to do with it. Cheese make yields are a function of whether or not rennet is used to set the milk. When rennet is used it causes a firmer set by fully breaking the amino acid chains apart between water soluble and fat soluble components while also eating lactose. The whey aka the water and water soluble aminos are then pulled off and made into a variety of by products therefore, not wasted

>>12448109
Sure I'll trust your word because I need to keep my meat and cheese addiction up