/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>12689175
there are profits to be made. gotta keep the shareholders happy.

Because you're in prison presumably because you did something bad, you're there to be punished not to enjoy it.

>>12689175
every dollar spent on a prison is a dollar taken from poor black people

Prisons are a business. Entire towns economies rely on them. The goal is to keep as many people in prisons as possible at all times that's why there is no actual rehabilitation in prisons. They want you to come back and stay there. American prisons are an absolute abomination.

>>12689175
Mainly greed. Prison should be about rehabilitation and setting people up success when they leave so they don't get themselves in the same situation. But unfortunately attitudes like >>12689191 exist so recidivism is very high

>>12689194
But don't poor black people spend a lot of time in prison?

>>12689196
Cringe and cucked. Prisons should be about punishing you to the point you never want to return to that hellhole again. Bread and water for every meal and beaten to a pulp by the guards every time you step out of line. Shitting and pissing in a hole in the floor, no heating, no blankets, not tv’s, no phone calls. Watch the reoffending rate plummet.

>>12689203
even for a first offense?

>>12689203
Except the data tells us there are far higher rates of recidivism with that approach compared to one that focuses on rehabilitation. So no, watch the rate skyrocket with your biased, uneducated guess.

I think the reason prisons are as they are is due to people with special interests getting bribes to the right people, as most things. I'm sure someone could argue that it's way more economically beneficial to give prisoners good food and teach them important skills (And not just shit like woodworking but programming, giving them education in math and sciences ect) and instead of having them immediately commit a crime since they can't get a job they provide value to the community rather than sucking it out

I think prisons in their natural state would be more rehabilitation just because it's better for everyone to be smarter and better off rather than siphoning all the wealth to a few people

>>12689210
Yes. Especially for a first offence. First and last hopefully.

>>12689203
People don't fucking commit crimes weighing the probability that they'd get in trouble. They do whatever because they wanted to do it or had to do it or whatever. What ends up happening in your hell scape is you fuck up the person so badly they can't actually function in normal society anymore compared to someone who gets time to fix themself and try to contribute

>>12689213
you're a very insecure individual. :(

>>12689195
This

/ck/ if you had to redesign the prison menu from $2.60 to $5 a meal. What would you change?

>>12689211
The data shows that people who are molly coddled by the current prison system where they are given beds, toilets, semi decent foods, that they arnt afraid of reoffending and getting sent back to prison. Can tell you must be some liberal tranny cock sucking faggot by the way you type for fucking nigger

>>12689203
But bad prison conditions have always resulted in high rates of recidivism. That's actually fact. I get your line of thinking, but it's just an immature thought. Countries that treat their prisoners like normal people and help them education/mental health have way lower crime statistics. Seriously have you never learned about this?

>>12689217
i've exceeded the posted speed limit in rural areas. nobody was around for miles. i caused no harm to anyone and damaged no property. should i punished to the fullest extent of the law?

>>12689191
100%
>>12689203
CR
>>12689213
IN
>>12689225
GE

Probably some MAGAfaggot.

>>12689217
So if you were beaten to a pulp everyday then you get released youre going to go hmmmm let me get sent back to prison again. Maybe you would because youre a retard but criminals who hopefully have more sense than you would think twice.

>>12689232
Dilate disgusting tranny.

>>12689231
Yeah you definitely should get a ticket

>>12689225
There is no coddling in American prisons. There's no rehabilitation. It's endless rape and violence from guards and other prisoners.

>>12689202
only half of them the other half need that money

>>12689203
>the answer to gross authoritarianism is more authoritarianism

>>12689223
I would do this menu

>>12689241
why? nobody was harmed and no property was damaged.

>>12689237
Being beaten everyday would just make someone mentally broken which in turn leads to more crime. They wouldn't function well in the real world because of PTSD over it.

>>12689195
this is right

>>12689175
Because you tell a person in an office to make a budget plan and they want to see the person they're to report to happy. Is pizza a vegetable? If it saves us money sure.

There is plenty of free semen.

>>12689191
>there to be punished
Why? If they cannot be rehabilitated then use them for chemical testing. Why waste resources? And if they cannot be rehabilitated, kill them.
Punishment is a luxury they should not be able to afford.

>>12689263
because we would just kill all the brown prisoners and let the white ones go

>>12689263
THIS

>>12689175
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison%E2%80%93industrial_complex

Look up CoreCivic and Geo Group, the two largest private prison operators in the United States.

>>12689248
The proper meal order is
Breakfast > Lunch > Dinner

I think people who say
>Breakfast > Dinner > Supper
are legit retarded

>>12689265
and what would be the problem?

>>12689265
Justice shall be blind. Sentence based on crime. If they can be rehabilitated then do so. And free them as members of the citizenry. If not use them till they die.
But if bias rules? Then let it rule well so that the suffers of oppression do not suffer long.

>>12689250
You willfully ignored the limits of speed and just because you didn’t harm anybody the reckless behavior is not conducive to civilized society. A guy like you ran over my old high school track coach while he was on his early morning jog and fled the scene. You’d do the same because you’re a trash person. Pay the ticket.

>>12689248
Where did you get this menu? It looks like something from 1955

>>12689237
Watch how high police and civilian deaths rise when Roberto refuses to be taken alive after being pulled over with a gram of blow.

>>12689284
you want to punish me for something i might do? i didn't cause harm to anyone, i didn't cause damage to any property.

>>12689286
navy cookbook I posted it yesterday in the antique cookbook thread

>>12689369
Yes. Just like how firing a gun in the air in public would get you punished as well.

>>12689376
punish people for something they might do
spoken like a true ISIS member

>>12689175
>incarceration costs an average of more than $31,000 per inmate,
If I murder someone, it will cost $31,000 per year to keep me in prison. If I promise not to commit crimes, could they just give me that money instead? That's more than I make.

>>12689379
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilberto_Valle

>>12689225
haha holy fuck dude you could at least try to conceal your severe personal issues

>>12689376
thats not a crime in most places. my friend shot himself in public high on mushrooms and the cops didnt care at all

My brother was a cook in the navy, he'd probably love getting something like this.

Or he might hate it.

>>12689175
>incarceration costs an average of more than $31,000 per inmate, per year
Aren't their medications paid for by the state, and if so, how much of that is the excessively high medical bill caused by our medications prices not being regulated and costing obscene amounts, more than in other developed countries?

>>12689394
My understanding is food in the military needs to be good to keep morale high. Only consistent thing I have heard from citizens that serve.

>>12689269

>>12689405

>>12689379
>>12689369
its not about what you "might" do. it's what you actually did, which is break the law. you are fully aware of the consequences, and yet you shirked your responsibilities to them. you only have yourself to blame, dumbass.

>>12689229
>Countries that 100% white do this
>>12689175
>what are guards
>what are other employees there
>what is infrastructure
>what repairing the plumbing when jamal fucks it up flushing a balloon of drugs or out of protest
>what is medical when two feral fuckheads bite each other's noses off in a fight
>what is getting a tv or building guards around it when some crackhead breaks it trying to light a cigarette from the wiring in the back
only 80iq felons and white cucks that have never been inside a jail think it's some money printing business

also contracted out prisons must pay minimum wage for work, so when someone is getting paid .37 cents/hr to do something, the government is pocketing that difference, not the companies

>>12689379
But you did do it. You broke the speed limit. Stop the mental gymnastics.

>>12689421
>idiots think a private sector business makes money

>americans calling countries with humane prison systems cucked
>same americans having the recidivism rate n-times higher than these countries
every single prison thread

>>12689421
>only 80iq felons and white cucks that have never been inside a jail think it's some money printing business
Why are companies eager to start private prisons then, dumbo?

alright i got time...

it aint that bad bruh. depends on where you at and if you get money on the books. if you got family that has a little money it helps a lot when you down. I had money stashed after I got hit up and i trusted my girls mom to call it in, she took some "for the baby" but she did me good for 8 years. you get out on OR? pay a bond? how come you aint in co right now?
bruh if you out now you should just start flipping some real fast, you going to prison anyway fuck it, come up on some money and give it to somebody you trust like senpai to put it on the books every other month it aint like you can do it yourself and that 150 go fast bruh. everything cost inside.
the food is easy, either you got money or you dont. prison food is weak, sometimes you get something special like when they get donated shit for holidays or a some factories freezer go out but they always fuck it up and make it taste like some retirement home charly brown kinda food, bland as fuck. the food you can make in the cell is tolerable at best but you can make it spicy at least. I pieced money up every month with my celly cuz we was the same set and we was cool. no homo. some fools get robbed so be careful. you can get wrapped up quick inside even when you didnt do nothing so dont go telling fools you got money. if you poor then fuck it you dont have a choice anyway just make the best of it, you can always trade up food just make sure you know what they are saying when you trade up.

tapatio packs bruh, my life saver locked up. put that shit on everything.

>>12689379
I'd wager you're about one car crash and an involuntary manslaughter away from changing your mind.

>>12689431
Should the law forbid activities for which no victim can be identified?

>>12689441
English, motherfucker

>>12689445
yes
that's how civilization works.

>>12689445
Jaywalking is illegal for the same reason. Your actions have a very high chance of bringing another person to harm.

No mention of Nutraloaf?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutraloaf
>Nutraloaf (also known as Meal Loaf, prison loaf, disciplinary loaf, food loaf, lockup loaf, confinement loaf, seg loaf, grue or special management meal)[1] is a food served in prisons in the United States and Canada to inmates who have misbehaved; for example, assaulting prison guards or fellow prisoners.[2] It is similar to meatloaf in texture, but has a wider variety of ingredients. Prison loaf is usually bland, perhaps even unpleasant, but prison wardens argue that nutraloaf provides enough nutrition to keep prisoners healthy without requiring utensils to be issued.
>In December 2015, New York State decided to discontinue the use of nutraloaf throughout prisons statewide.[14] In Gordon v. Barnett, the District Court for the Western District of Washington ruled that although it was not cruel and unusual, nutraloaf is a punishment and that prisoners are entitled to a due process hearing before being subjected to it.

Who wants to try it?

>>12689175
>Why is Prison and school food so shitty
Prison food is incredibly generous

>>12689454
>prisoners are entitled

>>12689445
If everyone were to do a certain activity, and that would cause people to get hurt, then it makes sense to limit that activity. You can’t limit it without punishing it.

>>12689461
Everyone is entitled to due process. Are you a yuropoor?

>>12689470
I see no need to waste resources. Prisoners who cannot be rehabilitated should be used for drug testing. Those who can be rehabilitated but act out or relapse should be treated to torture. If they fail again, put them on drug testing or kill them.
Due process should be for citizens that support our nation, not tear it down.

>>12689454
>nutraloaf is a punishment and that prisoners are entitled to a due process hearing before being subjected to it
The hellish sort of creation is it?

>>12689439
because compared to the incompetent government doing they do a far better job dumbass. it's more governments begging to contract it out because they can't do anything without bloating a budget to hell

>Nutraloaf

I think it's hilarious that the US prison system basically took a macronutrient recipe by the spergs on /fit/ and decided to use it as a punishment

>>12689432
>doesn't list any countries because they're always 95% white/asian and knows it will be called out on

>get $8000 a year to live on
Boy prison is sure a deterrent. It's a good thing I agree with all of the government's policies.

>>12689545
Better to joke then do anything about it?

>>12689516
>doesn't acknowledge jim crow/apartheid systemic racism contributes to racial crime distortion
Because truth hurts your feefees and it's far more convenient to claim skin color is the major determinate of behavior so you can throw up your hands and say there's no help for it. Many such cases, really true, ok?

>>12689562
>skin color

herewego.jpg

>>12689562
north korea has no racism and a huge prison population

>>12689516
there are many 95% white/asian countries with US-like prison system and all have similarly high recidivism rate
you cannot blame everything on people being black, blame it on your prisons being facilities for making these people stronger, angrier and asocial

>>12689430
dude, companies are going public less and less noadays because its harder to become profitable as a public company.

we're probably going to see a great "privatization" movement in the next few decades

>>12689601
>you cannot blame everything on people being black
not everything... but a lot.

>>12689621
And this means private prisons do not make money?

>>12689175
Looks like something I would have cobbled together after returning home very drunk. Nutritional value close to zero.

>>12689633
well, it considers what you mean by "make money"
the whole business model of a private prison is to save the government money.
Many private prisons do manage to save the government money, and that makes them profitable.

>>12689662
Then we agree, did you misunderstand me or are you distracted?

>>12689667
who cares I just want to talk about profits

>>12689676
You want to talk to someone you do not understand about profits?

>>12689682
>You want to talk to someone you do not understand about _____?
I mean that's pretty much my entire online experience.

>>12689688
If you meant that why didn't you say it?

>>12689696
I just said it.

>>12689701
You said
>I mean
As a response to me, inferring that is what you meant. This is further suggested by your lack of an actual reply to my question. You never answered, only implied an answer by what you meant. Which is why I asked why not just state what you meant since it is clear you knew from the start. Or simply said yes, instead of correcting yourself and then getting confused about it.

>>12689712
>inferring that is what you meant.
It is what I meant? Do you really believe someone on the internet would say something they don't mean?

>>12689719
>it is what I meant
Then why didn't you say it. Or do you again, not understand what I mean?

>>12689721
I guess I do not understand what you mean.

>>12689723
>I guess
Well do you or don't you?

>>12689726
I'm not sure.

>>12689223
Keep them on scoops of protein powder instead and regular food 2 times a week.

>>12690061
>Keep them on scoops of protein powder instead and regular food 2 times a week.

Just what we need, a big hot building full of thousands of niggers angrily farting for several days in a row.

>>12689196
I used to think that way, but honestly there are people that just need to be kept in prison to keep them out of society because they are only a detriment to it and especially those close to them. Because there will always be one soft-hearted family member who refuses to cut them out of their life or believe just how terrible they really are, and that person will try their hardest to constantly haul them back into everyone elses lives. Keep the fucks in prison where they can't bother anyone.

>>12689196
it is funny you say that. a local methhead in my parent's hometown went to jail for driving while high and hit a house, appealed for rehabilitation, was sober for a year, attended therapy, went to a halfway house, got a job at the supermarket, was released and given his liscense back and BAM ran over a kid while high on meth. it was big deal news because he was being paraded around by everyone as such a success story too.

>>12690519
Good thing anecdotes are not evidence

for me, it's niggers getting raped is the best form of rehabilitation

Prison food should be shitty. The real sad thing is that school food was shitty back in the 80s, but now its just depressing.

>>12689203
I hope to god this is bait because you are truly ignorant on how the prison system works and why people end up back there after they are let out.

>>12689441
I've seen this exact post, years ago. Some anon said it was the blackest post they ever read. What a trip...

>>12689211
High IQ

>>12689432
>recidivism rate n-times higher than these countries
Break down the recidivism rate by race and ethnicity and the results might surprise you (or they might not)

>>12689376
>>12689418
Bootlickers. I can't imagine how pathetic a person needs to be to suck authoritative dick so much. I don't even regularly commit crimes and the laws I do break almost 100% of the time have no chance of harming others, yet I can't stand pussies like you who try to act holier than thou because you kiss police ass. Hope you guys get fucked by pigs at some point and have to sit in prison and rot for a crime you didn't commit.

>>12689203
Dunning and Kruger called, they want you to pull your head in until you have an educated understanding of the topic.

>>12690917

>>12690917
We should just put them in camps like the Germans did

>>12690597
neither are your feefees
>criminals will be rehabilitated if we're just nicer to them :(
lol

>>12690917
kiss police ass? those posters aren't kissing police ass. they refuse to white knight for criminals, that's what makes you so upset.

>>12690942
All the research and evidence shows it is the more effective pathway. But research and evidence is just feelings, right? Your desire for revenge is in comparison entirely rational.

>>12690950
ALL the research? didn't the evil prison system pay off some researchers to create a fake study to support their evil ways? at least one?

>>12690953
OK, fine. I concede that point. My choice of wording in that respect was colloquial. It would have been more precise to say "the vast body of credible research with accompanying evidence."

>>12689263
This is a materialistic and modern way of thinking. Justice sometimes requires sacrifice. Some deserve to hang regardless of the expense.

>>12691016
Execution is the cheapest option from an economic perspective, though. If you mean the expense of the diminished moral fiber of the entire population, well, that's clearly retarded and self-defeating.

>>12689237
>youre going to go hmmmm let me get sent back to prison again.
No, you're going to go
>In society, I need to work to pay for food so let me go to this job interv-
>*PTSD breakdown*
>two weeks later, resort to theft to eat or drugs to cope with the trauma
>straight back there

>>12691022
>the diminished moral fiber of the entire population
that's rich coming from you, weren't you arguing in favor of child drag queens stripping in gay bars a few months back?

>>12689175
For almost 3 dollars you can make good food.

>>12691035
Nope.

>>12691038
oh sorry. you reminded me of this poster i encountered on /tv/
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/110075480/#110091047
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/110075480/#110091121
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/110075480/#110091311
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/110075480/#110091483
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/110075480/#110092157

well, as you were. i don't have strong feelings about the prison system. if someone finds the political will to improve conditions, by all means do it. i won't be shedding any tears for cons currently any time soon either, but eh.

but the thing i saw in that video, that i have strong feelings about. absolutely disgusting stuff there, wouldn't you agree?