/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>12751556
Because money means less than ever before

Would unironically buy a 20 dollar burger if its even half decent. But then again I dont have to, as there are places that sell great burgers for 5 bucks. But lets say that place is all the way in eagle rock and Im in northridge or someshit. Don't really have a choice, do I.

Because you're being paid to have people make the food for you and clean up your mess. Hopefully you make it a social event and invite friends so everyone can participate in ordering what each individual wants without one of you sitting in the kitchen, unable to make so many different things for different people.

>>12751556
People wont, this restaurant will be out of business by the end of the year if the rest of their food is priced like that

>>12751556
>min wage goes up like $2
>charge $7 more for burgers
Hm

Because not everybody is a manchild still living on mommy's allowance.

>>12751577
How dare companies make a profit?

>>12751590
Nobody said that, but they're going to go out of business (and probably blame everyone but themselves) if they try to gouge like that. Get a clue.

>$20 cheeseburger because minimum wage
I have a hard time believing they aren't making enormous profits on that burger. This seems disingenuous and likely they raised the price far more than necessary. If I am paying $20 for just a cheeseburger I am going to go to a restaurant where the cooks aren't payed the government mandated minimum.

>>12751556
The ones charging that are usually trendy hipster restaurants. The only places near me serving $15 burgers are ones that play loud rock music and look like they've spent too much on decorations. There are still plenty of places not doing that, though.

>>12751556
Learn how to fucking draw Jesus Christ

>>12751556
Emeryville is a twon in the SF Bay Area very close to Berkeley and Oakland.
the burgers at this place are probably already at least $12.00 without a side of fries or a drink

>>12751590
no, literally, how dare they, there should be a limit. price gouging should be illegal.

Are they selling like one burger an hour?

>>12751667
why does there need to be a legal limit? If you feel the price is too high then don't pay it.

>>12751667
>price gouging
>on burgers
I don't think anybody's in any doubt about your nationality.

Make your own burgers if you're so horribly addicted to them, stupid fuck. There are restaurants that hundred dollar burgers. Are they price gouging or just taking advantage of rich assholes?

>>12751556
>force
>$20
If you believe this horseshit you're seriously retarded

>>12751556
who are "people"? I do not give a fuck about ambiance, as long as the food is tasty and the establishment appears hygienic, I eat there.

People who dine out for "ambiance" are going out to be seen. The only reason to pay $100 for a meal is if you want other people to know you can afford a $100 meal.

>>12751689
>or just taking advantage of rich assholes?

taking advantage
it should be illegal for a business to take advantage of anyone, not just "rixh assholes"

>why does there need to be a legal limit?

because the market is in such a state that it does not self correct as fast or as efficiently as it ideally would.

>>12751556
$20 isn’t expensive for a burger poorfag

>>12751725
yeah, it is. especially when the cost of ingredients is less than an eighth of that.

>>12751715
Again, the market you're talking about is for burgers that are made for you.
If stores were charging 20 bucks for a loaf of bread I could see the problem, but you really don't have some kind of fundamental right to a cheap meal you can't be bothered cooking yourself, you fat fuck.
I would never pay $20 for a burger, I agree. But instead of demanding that the State punish places that charge that much for one I'll just cook them at home or go somewhere else. Plenty of places will sell you a burger for a lot less than $20.
And plenty of places will sell it for more. You have a choice. Maybe you should appreciate that choice instead of demanding that the State interfere more with your life.

>>12751556
>go out to restaurant
>choose greedy hipster owned burger joint
>wow the burgers are 20USD!?!?!?!?

why dont you take your business elsewhere?
why dont you go to the places the hipsters want to imitate?

>>12751732
300%~ at counter service and 500%~ at sit down restaurants is the standard in most countries. Sometimes more if the ingredients are rare/ spoil easily.

>>12751590
Ah yes, the Uncle Tom of wage slavery.

>>12751689
Find me a hundred dollar burger that isn't covered in edible gold leaf or some stupid bullshit like that.

>>12751556
ambience and energy

>>12751754
So what if it is? If someone's stupid enough to pay $100 for a burger because it has a couple dollars worth of gold leaf on it I think he should be free to do so.
A fool and his money and all that.
Can't you just be glad that you're not stupid enough to buy them?

>>12751738
>>12751740
if some places charge $20 for a burger and get away with it, then more places will and prices go up across the board and the value of a dollar goes down. consumer protection policies would help mitigate this.

There should be no minimum wage. Everything would be so much cheaper for those of us with real jobs.

>>12751775
no business should be legally be able to take advantage of a customer

>>12751781
every job is a "real" job, we all work for the same basic reason.

>>12751778
Or maybe a ten-dollar place opens next to the 20-dollar place and everybody goes there instead.
Walmart isn't destroying small businesses by charging more, you know.

>>12751781
>I have a "real job"
>I need things to be cheaper
Who are you trying to lord over to make yourself feel better?

>>12751775
I mean its just a waste of good meat and ingredients to ruin food like that by making it so gaudy and disgusting.

>>12751715
A burger joint literally can't take advantage of people because it's not something people need. Those kinds of consumer laws are just for rent, internet connection etc.

>>12751796
No one. Everyone is capable of getting an education and getting a real job that benefits society at large.

>>12751701
>t. Never been out to a nice place

>>12751801
>food isn't something people need.

>>12751801
You're most likely talking to an American, mate.
He really does think of burgers as a basic need.

>>12751811
It's not a grocery store, you're mostly paying for the location and the service

>>12751805
>Everyone is capable of getting an education and getting a real job that benefits society at large.
Or, you know, you could get an degree in a field that gets flooded then has no demand for any of it's workers, leaving everyone to pay for their loans with McDonald's and Subway jobs putting No on the do you own a vehicle section of their applications.

>>12751556
>If you want a $5 hamburger go to McDonald's
McD isn't even $5 anymore. A McD meal is like $8 for the premium burgers. The value menu isn't even a good value anymore at $2 a burger. At near $10 a meal, might as well go to a fast casual burger place like Shake Shack or Five Guys.

Man, this thread is filled with cringey NEET poorfaggots complaining they can't afford good food on their allowance. Get a job, you puddles of shit.

>>12751577
>restaurants have one employee
dipshit

>>12751805
>Everyone is capable
Maybe a couple decades ago, but in this economy? Keep dreaming. If you're born below at least middle class and your parents don't waste half their life's savings on your college fund, actually getting a degree isn't happening unless you spend 20 hours a day working nonstop almost 365 days a year for half a decade.
And after that you actually have to find a job in the field...

>>12751834
>Restaurants that have existed for more than a week only sell enough to pay their salaries and utilities and nothing more
Tard.

>>12751819
Maybe you should have got a worthwhile degree instead of women's studies, buddy.
I agree, though, that slinging burgers or pushing a broom is a real job, sure. I just don't respect that job as much as surgery or firefighting, for example, and I don't see why we should have the Government force employers to overpay for tasks that literal retards can do.
I have been to McDonald's places that had people with Down's syndrome work the tills. If you can't do better than them you should be ashamed of yourself.
Funny how much that argument offends the same lefties who say that "if an unskilled Mexican can steal your job you're worthless".

>>12751835
how is that worse than farming corn everyday for the rest of your life

>>12751848
I'm almost a straight ticket Republican and conservative, but I have to say you are outright retarded. People aren't going to pull themselves up by their bootstraps without boots, and if they're using both hands, that's called rolling around on the floor not pulling up anywhere. Plenty of people are not getting jobs in their field, and not in basket weaving fields, and you insisting they just aren't trying hard enough doesn't change our outright broken system.

America is and has been in a state of decline for a long time and people that make it out alright keep trying to blame everyone else for it instead of actually coming up with or accepting any practical solutions. At this point any change will cause temporary damage but goddamnit we are corrupt to the fucking core with ever-shrinking American prosperity among the common person, and most self-centered jackasses either says "I made it," or "We need to help the immigrants," instead of fixing the damned country.

>>12751848
"worthwhile degree" these are few and far between, the job market is saturated with college grads and the middle tier jobs they used to take to help pay down their loans are now filled by older people who need a second or third job to make ends meet.

>>12751887
How does it feel watching your party become a complete joke?

>>12751835
>muh field
Broaden your field, then. This is why you can select both majors AND minors. Or even double major. It’s your fault you put all your eggs in one basket.

>>12751899
It doesn't matter. Dems have been a joke for years. Corporations has been taking more and more of the pie since the mid 70's, and you could cut a lot of the federal spending fat if you could ever stop them, and while I never visit /pol/, if I continue this tirade I'm sure a mod will smack me good and hard.

But it's good to see the only thing you care about is your party, not what is going on in the country.

>>12751887
>you insisting they just aren't trying hard enough
Not what I said at all. I said you should choose a field with some opportunities.
And additionally, I don't think you should be too proud to take a job outside your field if you need it. Doesn't mean you get to demand the same pay, though.

>>12751556
I don't and I won't pay those prices. I understand them having to raise prices a little but that's outrageous...there's no way I'm paying that much for a burger. I could feed a family of 4 a good comfy dinner for at least 3 nights with 20 bucks. Minimum wage isn't a livable wage to begin with. Less than 9 bucks an hour in Texas.

>>12751814

>>12751917
They are all Jokes and full of BS. I don't trust either side to fix anything. They just keep screwing the common middle class working people over. They don't give a fuck about us or anyone else. It's all political posturing.

Every socialist deserves to hang

>>12751910
Not him but you're a fucking retard if you think Minors mean ANYTHING at all, and one shouldn't have to double major to get a job, that's a fucking retarded requirement to put on people. Shit is becoming more niche these days whether you like it or not, broadening isn't going to do anything because that just means you can do the bare minimum, which you don't need an education for.

>>12751939
Seems to me if anyone had any common sense at all they'd set term limits on all major offices, and ban lobbyists, but that would never happen.

>>12751922
Yeah, I'm actually redoing all my shit focusing on my experience in purchasing, inventory, customer relations, etc rather than what I did. There's still more qualified people available everywhere though for something that generic.

>>12751834
>restaurants sell one burger per hour
Hm

>>12751966
Absolutely

>Communist state trying to charge more for a product.
Wait, that's illegal.

>>12751917
Cringe. Wipe the cheeto dust from donny's dick off your face.

>>12751781
I'm glad you will be literally eaten by those you disdain during the collapse.

>>12751556
Le Dip's burger américain is $18. Unless they raise their prices, that's as much as I'll pay.

When I'm too tired to cook, my wife's boyfriend makes me take them out to eat and the prices have gotten worse over the last few years. His ribs and bud lights are easily $50.

It's like none of you have ever worked in a restaurant before and seen the other side.... Yeah minimum wage goes up, prices go up everywhere. 20$ burger is ridiculous if ya ask me tho. But prices will rise. Our 1/2 lb burgers are close to 10$ so I could see it if the meat is good enough quality. Still wouldn't pay for it myself but that's my choice

>>12751577
>>12751604
Restaurant profit margins are some of the lowest, averaging at around 6%
the bulk of restaurant revenue goes to rent, which is why every single goddamn restaurant that hasn't been around for half a century is disappearing in NY

>>12752126
I'm pissed about Arcade Bakery

MAGIC
BOATS

>>12751556
The whole point of expensive restaurants is being able to go out to eat without there being blacks/mexicans/rednecks around you.

>>12752126
Then why lie about Minimum wage being the issue? Wage expenses are like the 3rd lowest expense (right above maintenance fees and food cost)

>>12751835
This post made me laugh.
The delusion is real

>>12751577
Min wage increases hurt small businesses more than large ones. McDicks can take a small loss in some locations because other places they are located more than make up for it.

WENDYS MASTER RACE

>>12751556
Because the prices are rising, dipshit. If you raise the prices, your mundane pleb shit has now transformed into a unique experience. The same reason people spend hundreds sometimes even thousands of dollars to watch a screen from a shitty seat at a concert or mcsportball game.

>>12752845
McDonalds, individually owned and operated.
>Min wage increases hurt small businesses more than large ones.
It will probably close a lot of tiny businesses, and force change across the economy. But guess what, you have to do something instead of sitting on your same policies for an eternity.

>>12751556
Imagine being such an asshole that rather than abstain from lifestyle choices you can't afford, you choose to force other poor working people to pay for your dinner instead.

I only went out to eat once a week until I was done with law school and yet, somehow, I survived. How, you might ask? It's called cooking at home. You fat entitled trash garbage. God I hate non-tippers.

>>12751781
The minimum wage is a market intervention on an oversupply of unskilled labor
Productivity is up since the 1970s but wages have stagnated. Why? Too many unskilled workers either lost in the dust of technology or imported from the third world

>>12751715
Seething poorfag.

>>12751791
No, people flipping burgers and mopping floors are below me. I say that without a trace of irony.

>>12752817
I've got half a mind to produce a copypasta of all arguments for and against tipping just because I'm so goddamn tired of these threads on /ck/ and /pol/

The core principle of microeconomics is that people as a group act in predictably rational and irrational ways. One phenomenon this manifests as is pricing splits. Say for example you started including tax in your menu pricing, and your opponent across the street didin't. All else held equal, your opponent will do better because the initial pricing is cheaper.

This exact same concept applies to tipping-inclusive and non-tipping-but-higher-priced restaurants. All of them get less business, and all of them receive lower ratings even though on average the price of the food is exactly the same.

Tipping culture is a huge component of keeping price appearances low, which means restaurants across the board receive more patronage. Low wages supplemented by tipping let restaurants get food as competitively priced as possible. It's not so much the wages that are the problem, but relative perceptions of value. If all restaurants adopted tip-inclusive pricing tomorrow, people would stop going to restaurants by double-digit percentages.

>>12753246
what's your real job boomer. or better yet, tell me you're a code monkey

>>12751823
2 mcdoubles, a mcchicken, fries, and a large drink is like 6 bucks

>>12751556
I don't tip

>>12751667
Make one at home or choose a different restuarant you retard. You are not going to die from not eating a burger.

>>12751811
Restuarants are a luxury. Go buy some beans and rice you pathetic bitch

>>12751814

>>12751556
>fox news
You've never left your basement. Nobody gives a shit about your opinion outside of your echo chamber, which sure as fuck isn't /ck/.

>>12751556
I can get a double cheeseburger for $1.69 thank you very much

>>12753600
go pull your teeth your self, dentists are a luxury

>>12751667
You are the problem with human rights, gets to the point people think they have the right to cheap burgers

If the minimum wage going up means you need to raise prices to make a profit you probably werent making that much money in the first place. Fire staff and do it yourself and hire people when you can afford to hire them. Its not rocket surgery

>>12751556

Paying people more won't make the quality of the service any better. It will just be more expensive for the same or shittier experience. They'll still insist you tip too

>>12753677
That's the most pathetically inaccurate analogy I've seen all week.

Incidentally, what do you call a doctor who fails out of med school?
A dentist.

>>12754296
It's not about quality of service, it's about getting staff decent wage without having to rely on tips that may or may not come to them.

You guys make these threads just to bitch at each other right? I believe op is the ultimate troll.

If I wanted a $20 hamburger I'd go to Switzerland, fuck you greedy grease mutants

>>12751556
The last time I paid $13 for a cheeseburger was at the Chili's in the Detroit airport. California needs to fall into the ocean.

>>12751689
>I don't think anybody's in any doubt about your nationality.
Well he thinks that the price of commodities should be government controlled so... Yuropoor?