/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>13392843
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>>13392850
agreed. any posters that disagree are gay.

>>13392860
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>>13392843
Based posts. 100% rate of based.

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>>13393220
you lack any self awareness

Theres more flavor in one grain of American sushi than Jiro has in his entire restaurant

>>13393317
this but unironically

>>13392843
>american sushi
Isn''t that sushi made by korean immigrants?

i wan crumchy rowl

>>13393455
i wan spaicee role

Once again there is sushi thread on /ck/ and once again I feel that urge. That urge that has coarsed through my blood and the blood of my ancestors long passed. Above all other rolls, the King of rolls. The Godzilla Roll.
Perhaps you thought sushi could only have wonderful flavor and texture. That the beginning and the end of this journey through culture could only ever be context-less but you where wrong. The Godzilla roll shows the world what amazing food is. It is not only a filling meal, made with the best of ingredients and most dedicated of cooking styles. It is a story.

The story of the Godzilla roll is at first glance a simple one. A mere reference to the famous film franchise you think? Ah but how wrong you are, for the story this impressive and domineering sushi roll tells is one of power, of loss, and domination. For the story this roll tells to make sense we need context. I am sure you have all heard of the major events of WW2. How in an effort to end the conflict as soon as possible the American nation of the United states used its greatest weapon against the Japanese. In fact it had to use this weapon twice, and on civilian cities no less. The impact of this devastating attack ended the war much earlier then anticipated and left a cultural blow on the Japanese people deeper then any but them could understand. The following decades being shaped by that event and its implications.

With this in mind the story of Godzilla, the king of monsters is easy to understand. A film about the destructive power of nature and of the weapons we now wield as a species. All framed in front of the loss the Japanese suffered. So now, what of the sushi roll named after these events?

What we have here gentleman, is a sushi roll, the iconic Japanese dish (city), deep fried (destroyed) and sold to hungry Americans (innocent) in exchange for US dollars (irony). If this is not the height of poetic storytelling in cooking, im not sure what is.

>>13392843
I live in Japan and people here genuinely think that corn on pizza is delicious and some sort of hidden italian delicacy. People here are really fucking nuts about italian food but can never remotely cook anything like it. There are loads upon loads of "italian" restaurants here but when you go in it's always some weird fucking japanese ripoff where they fuck up all of the dishes by adding jap shit like raw squid and eel and shit to it and then they try to fucking play it off as "real italian food". It doesn't help that people here don't know what normal bread or cheese is. It's all fucking gross. I have not had any normal-tasting cheese in all the time I've lived here, and good bread is about as rare as a properly paid salaryman. These people are born on this island, they will live their whole lives on this island, and they will die on this island without ever tasting real bread or cheese in their life and that's just sort of sad. The worst part is that because no japanese person actually knows what real italian food is like, nobody can call restaurants out on this bullshit, everyone eats it all up and calls it "honto ni umaiiiii uwuwu" and everyone thinks this is what real italian food is like. It's just sad. "OOhh rettsu addu fishu eggu andu seaweedu to pasta carbonara don't u kno this is how rearu itarian peeporu eat!". The worst part for me is that japan doesn't just massacre classic italian food like this, but they also do it with every other country's cuisine imaginable. French, spanish, mexican, turkish, you name it. They botch everything they come across as "wow foreign so cool" but it's never apparently fucking good enough unless they douse it in soy sauce and raw octopus to make it "authentic european" food. Don't get me wrong I love me some japanese food but fuck this country for ruining foreign food culture and fuck the people for being too retarded to not know what real food is like, even though they kind of can't help it, fuck em it's gross

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>>13393986
kek

>>13394632
Every nation does this to literally every other nations cuisine, you child

>>13393986
>>13393455
What is the point of these two posts?

This thread shamefur dispray! Baka-gaijin commit sudoku.

Honestly you're right, I've been around the bush with fancy sashimi and nigiri places but nothing beats those super extravagant rolls with spicy crab meat, tuna, tempura, avocado, spicy mayo, eel sauce, and all that all that other shit.

Is sushi generally safe to eat as far as parasites and worms

>>13394715
As long as your fish is sushi grade and/or youre eating at a clean established restaurant, yes.

>>13394724
The place has been around for a good decade. I usually do the fat 22$ unlimited deal and go through as many pieces as I can

>>13392843
>American Sushi

Also, Rey is Emperor Palpatine's Granddaughter and Ben Solo joins the light side.

>>13394668
what's the point of you?

generally speaking sushi in japan is much less expensive than it is in the US
I could eat until I felt sick for under $20 there

food in general is all around way less expensive than what we pay here, and I don't know why that is
I'm damn certain it has something to do with them not having minorities in the country though

>>13395085
>Ben Solo
>Ben Kenobi
It's like poetry, it rhymes

>>13392843
I ate a sukiyabashi jiro two years ago in ginza. Dropped $250 to make the reservation then another $300 on the actual food. The place was hot, the service was super tense, and it was basically a shitty experience overall. The tsukiji fish market was almost AS good, and without all the bullshit pretension.

>>13392843
>covered in brown sauce and crunchy things

>>13392843
I don't disagree, but anything with cream cheese in it is trash.

>>13395673
>covered in sauce
>clearly on the side

brainlet much?

>>13395673
>covered in diarrhea and poop crust

>>13393455
>>13393986
You belong behind bars

>>13395085
wow

so unexepct

>>13395085
This is probably the closest thing that I have ever seen to the Cajun sushi restaurant in the Howard the Duck movie. Replace the hot dog with Andouille sausage, put some cayenne in the relish...it's still garbage, but it's what they would have served.

>>13394632
All my this. Japs don't comprehend bread. Or butter. All their "foreign food" tastes the same, and it's shit, because no butter. All their bread tastes the same because they're little children afraid of tough crusts and actual flavor.

why are americanized versions of other cultures food always so much better than the original? are non americans just stupid and bad cooks?

>>13395651
>food in general is all around way less expensive than what we pay here, and I don't know why that is
Lower income, duh. Americans can pay more so restaurants charge more. If you go to a third world country it seems like everything is extremely cheap but that's because you're thinking in dollars.

But food is also extremely cheap in the US. You can buy a gallon of milk for a dollar in some places, ffs.

>>13396852
but the thing is in japan many things are comparable like the cost of clothing, food costs are low in restaurants plus the fact you don't have to tip

>>13393423
How's that any different from the traditional Japanese sushi that's in Japan?

>>13397371
>plus the fact you don't have to tip
You do have to tip, because it's included in the price. You can't "not tip", and you'll have to pay other extras like table, and service fees.

>>13392843
i had some deep fried sushi in Macon last year and it was way fucking better than that jap shit
1000 years of culture my ass , get your stinky ass rice with shit smelling weeds out of here japboi.

>>13392843
Subtle flavor is an absolute fucking meme.

Everything is better with sauce, condiments and spice.

>"But you can't taste the meat if you do"
Nigga meat doesn't fucking taste like anything. There's nothing to fucking taste in your medium rare or rare steak. It's just fucking watery blandness with a salty tinge.

Fuck man, I spice almost all my shit to the point that I get mild chemical burns on my lips and the skin around my mouth after a meal.

>>13397487
Are you an american by any chance?

>>13397515
Anon seems Canadian desu.

>>13397515
Nah. Scandinavia.

>>13393423
yes prob 99% Japanese restaurants in USA owned by Koreans/other asians. Sushi is super high profit margin food. Sushi in Japan is no better than USA sushi. Best sushi I have had was in Taiwan.

>>13392843
Step aside gringos and zips, real MEXICAN sushi coming through

>>13397869
>beef rolled in rice
Nothing about this seems like a bad idea, and I'd definitely try it.

Around here, I've noticed a lot of Hispanics are filling the roll of Japanese sushi chefs behind the counter and most locals aren't picking up on the transition.
But back to the Japanese cooking American sushi. I always wonder what breaks them - is it the quality or the quantity that they serve to each table?

>>13399339
The sushi that came to America was from Japanese sushi chefs, before Japan started pretending that it was a tradition, or art form.

>>13399356
I know the history of sushi - fast food for poor folk; but back then it was much simpler.
Japanese complicate the process and Americans complicate the taste.

>>13399377
>but back then it was much simpler.
Yea back then it was raw fish on sushi rice, and sometimes it was wrapped in seaweed.

>>13396817
>why are americanized versions of other cultures food always so much better than the original?
Unironically capitalism
>are non americans just stupid and bad cooks?
yes

>>13394632
i love this copypasta

>>13392843
>Imagine paying good $ for just raw fish on rice
They have cheap sushi for poor people in Japan as well if money is that much of a concern to you :)

>>13399718
It's the same sushi, and fush, but the price is different.

>>13392843
But I'd rather fuck a virgin than a chad.

>>13399722
It most certainly is not the same rice or fish you're not gonna get a maguro set from 7 11.
That's how food works. Cheaper ingredients means cheaper food for people like you on a budget

California roll is just a straight up better roll variant than traditional maki. Italian and japs(and their autistic protectors) do this thing where they play the “muh tradition, muh history” card when their food is outshined. I’m pretty sure half the world at this point offer better pizzas than Italy and every YouTube video in the world with pizza in it has atleast a few Italians seething

>go to America
>Chinese/French/Italian/Japanese/Vietnamese/Ethiopian-etc etc etc restaurants readily available
>often on par or better than the countries the dishes come from

>go to France/Italy/japan/etc etc etc
>their own cuisine is good
>but they fucking suck at making any other food

Eating Italian in Japan for example is one of the weirdest experiences I’ve had. “But anon why did you eat pasta in Japan” well because after 3 months of soup and sushi I wanted some god damn carbs and cheese. And it sucked. SUCKED

That’s why he entire world hates America, they’re literally the best at everything

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>>13393317
Absolutely BASED and AMERICAPILLED thread

>>13399892
Forgot image, was too busy cooming at how great AMERICA is

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>>13394715
I’ve literally seen more than one person take a bite out of a live tuna. Fresh out of the water.

>>13399899
I've literally seen more than one person cross a road without looking to see if cars were coming.

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>>13397869
I choose you.

>>13399888
>often on par or better
Sure, if you stayed inside a big metropolitan city like Jew York or San Francisco, then maybe on par. For most of America's landmass, foreign food is mediocre or garbage.

>>13397412
this has happened zero times
especially since most of the time you pay before you even get served

>>13400093
>this has happened zero times
Never been to grorius Nippon.

>>13400012
>New York
>SF
You're missing a lot of places in America.

>>13400155
for just $1 more you can make regular big macs into a double and have 4 patties, and it's still $1 less than a big mac in america

>>13399733
>Cheaper ingredients means cheaper food for people like you on a budget
Only if you compare the extreme opposites, but most of the time the ingredients are not cheaper, and the only difference is the price premium the guy touching your food charges you.

>>13400161
And I can have $20 beers/shots for $20 in America without having to pay a table, and service fee.

>>13392843
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>>13392850
As a local TV chef once said here: "it's not proper american food if you don't feel like you need a shower after eating it"

it's good but it all kinda tastes the same
I went to some sushi place with great reviews, that one french book gave them lots of points, etc. and it tasted pretty much the same as my hometown sushi places

but the ones with charred steak or something on top are more memorable

>>13400161
This still does not change the fact that in Japan
>gratuities are included
>table fee
>service fee
>holiday fee
>gaijin tax
and whatever else they want to throw in the bill is pre included. In the US waiters customarily have to earn their tip, so don't pretend that you do not tip in Japan, and that the Japanese are so fucking honorobu.

>>13396817
Other countries aren't even real, Viacom just lied to us and made us believe the usa isnt the entire world

>>13397487
.t vegan bugman

>>13400170
>but most of the time the ingredients are not cheaper
So you're retarded and you think that 7/11 sushi is the same grade of rice and fish you'd find in restaurants. Gotcha.

>>13393305
cringe as fuck desu

>>13394632
>I live in Japan
Stopped reading there.

>>13402024
My dad works for Nintendo tho...

>>13400159
I'm sure you can name a few big cities which have good ethnic food, but the vast majority of the interior of the US landmass is, by every culinary measure, a wasteland.

>>13400181
if it's pre-included then it isn't a tip, it's the price the restaurant is charging
and even with all that your food is still 1/3-1/2 the price of what it would cost in the USA and there's no tipping at the end

I don't tip regardless aside from rounding to the nearest dollar on the credit card, but still

>>13402642
you're legitimately autistic if you don't tip in america

>>13402664
The only autists are the staff for refusing to get unionized and demand livable wages instead of those whooping 2.13/hour.

>>13402672
no, you are still very autistic.

>>13402615
What a tastelet. You've never been to the land of the free. You can find the worst and the best here.
The best fish sandwich I ever had was from a fucking brackish gas station where I could barely understand their redneck gibberish posing as English.

>>13402642
>and even with all that your food is still 1/3-1/2 the price of what it would cost in the USA
You must be joking. Nips give each other melons as prestigious gifts. I can toss some seeds in a random patch of yard and get like twenty melons.

>>13402747
>Nips give each other melons as prestigious gifts. I can toss some seeds in a random patch of yard and get like twenty melons.
Typical American mindset to prioritize quantity over quality.

hey why drink a bottle of champagne when wal mart sells a case of Smirnoff ice for a fraction of the price right?

>>13402737
I lived in the mid-west for 10 years, for every single gas station serving top tier sandwiches, there's dozens of franchised chains and mediocre fried food shops. If you take the 80% quantile (or even higher), the food is chain-tier in most places. You can't prove me wrong and your fried fish sandwich place doesn't support your original point that the US does every other country's foods better.

I also like how you're using obscure good shops to support your point, as if those same type of places can't exist in other countries. There's literally places like that, with Michelin stars, in many other parts of the world outside the US.

>>13402672
>get unionized
unskilled labor doesn't deserve unionization or high pay
if your entire job can be done by a customer with an ipad, you don't deserve a union

>>13402747
>Nips give each other melons as prestigious gifts.
Sure, but prestigious gifts is not something you eat everyday so I don't see what that has to do with the average food cost. People aren't eating Maguro and Wagyu for every meal with Yubari for dessert everyday.

>>13402824
>deserve
has nothing to do with it, people of any job can unionize if they want to

>>13402824
>just stay in your place plebs d-dont get organized
*chad face* No

>>13392843

Drenched in sauce means your taste buds can't function properly and need sweetness to help your brain associate the food with overwhelming introduced flavour but at the expense of natural subtle complex flavour.

>>13402869
I am a regular person with not much money, I demand you tell me why encouraging people in the service industry and thus raising the cost of doing business which is an expense that gets passed on to consumers is good for me

>>13402912
maybe if you worked a union job you wouldn't have "not much money" and if you're that broke stop wasting your money on McDonalds

>>13394047
>The impact of this devastating attack ended the war much earlier then anticipated
Then why were they already drafting a peace treaty before the nukes were dropped on them?

>>13402939
you didn't answer the question

>>13402903
I can tell that I could beat your ass just by the way you type

>>13392843
imho the most superior sushi known to us mere mortals is the one nobody talks about, yet everyone craves, even if it may be just subconsious.
I am of course talking about mexican sushi, because they add jalapenos to it

>>13402642
>if it's pre-included then it isn't a tip, it's the price the restaurant is charging
It's the restaurant charging for the tip.
>and even with all that your food is still 1/3-1/2 the price of what it would cost in the USA and there's no tipping at the end
Food is cheaper in America, and it's more affordable to Americans.
>I don't tip regardless aside from rounding to the nearest dollar on the credit card, but still
You haven't left the home your great-grandfather squared in, so nobody is expecting you to tip anyone. Tipping isn't compulsory in the US.

>>13404389
>squated in

>>13403317
This

>>13403317
You can eat my ass any time big boy

>>13404420
Be gay somewhere else.

>>13404423
Want me to come over?

>>13404439
>Want me to come over?
Be aware. You will be trespassing, and I will shoot you.

>>13394715
Yes, Sushi *should* be frozen to very cold temps first, this will kill the parasites.

>>13399899
Now this is retarded. Hope you didn't join them anon.

>>13392843
my jap native friend says that he loves American sushi but that they are so different it's not worth comparing

It does have subtle flavours though.
But I like both.

>>13404510
It's like comparing pizza, or "Chinese" food.

>>13404510
>>13404608

I agree. Not exactly fancy cuisine, but some of the American style stuff is delicious.

>>13394668
spies from /s4s/ but they are retarded anime girls so you should embrace them instead of hating on them.

The incel American sushi vs the gigachad Mexican sushi
>muh crunchy shit and sauce
CRINGE, douse that shit in 30 different ingredients including gummy bears onions and pineapple. Your subtle American shit is embarrassing

>>13403317
I can tell by the way you speak that you haven't received any decent education and rely on food stamps for your daily life sustaining microwaveable mac and cheese.

>>13405332
CHAD CHAD CHAD, BIGGER BETTER MORE FLAVORFUL CHEAPER, IMAGINE PAYING FOR RAW FISH IN RICE WITH CRUNCHY SHIT ON IT (AMERICAN SUBHUMAN SUSHI) INSTEAD OF THIS GIGACHADNESS.
HOLY BASED

>>13405332
>>13405344
baseado

>>13405344
>no vinegary rice
What the fuck is that, and why is it in a sushi thread?

>>13405731
>muh vinegar
BAWWW BAWWWWW this is superior to your retarded crunchy avocado shit. More flavor, cheaper, better. Kneel. It's the superiority of the Mexican sushi

>>13402912
Earning a livable wage means tipping won't be mandatory, so it'd even out for you anyway. And if you're that much of a broke ass nigga, you shouldn't be eating out in the first place. Learn to prioritize your money.

>>13402912
>I am a regular person with not much money,
then don't eat out, you stupid fuck

>>13405744
Okay Pedro, but sushi is the rice, so why are you posting candy on nachos?

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>>13405833
>you're too poor to do this thing, how dare you!
>rise up and unionize fellow oppressed workers!

>>13405893
>muh culture
Bigger , better, far more flavorful. Imagine paying for just raw fish on rice

>>13392843
I am European and I approve.