/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>13527612
Who gives a fuck, just pick a side and sharpen just one side. No one is forcing you to use both.

>>13527612
Single bevel edge wanders while slicing and requires practice to use. The double bevel edge works better for most people.

>>13527649
disregard this, I'm retarded

>>13527612
double bevel knives cut better and are easier to sharpen.

Because the japanese are shaving fish and the west is cutting beef. Use your fucking skull pudding, you idiot.

>>13527670

No, they're not, It's much easier to run a side against the entire stone than it is to cross hatch at 20 or lesser degrees. They're working with much more delicate meat. That's all it is. Americans are carving, Japanese are shaving essentially.

>>13527705
You realize you’re talking about a race of people still eating with stick in the year 2020 of our lord? The Japanese have always been reluctant to give up tradition in favor of advancement all throughout their history. They were so afraid of outside influence the literally closed off their country to foreigners for hundreds of years and we’re still fighting with swords when the rest of the world had guns. Just because the japs use something doesn’t make it good or better.

>>13527697
>knives are only used for meat
brainlet the average person will likely never even cut their own meat to begin with.

>>13527720
I started eating with stick BECAUSE of them. It's fucking efficient. Have you seen their draw planes? You're probably not a wood worker or any useful person, but they have traditions because traditions foster perfection. Their methods of making soy sauce is amazing, it's like french wine making.

And I'm not even a soyboy or a weeaboo. You need to expand your horizons, kid.

>>13527697
>>13527720
I've watched videos of nips cutting up fish and i'm not sure what you mean by they shave the fish. Aside from descaling it they seem to use the same tools westerners do for cutting the fish up into chucks of sellable goods. Especially tuna, maybe it's different for smaller fish.

>>13527750

>eats with chopsticks
>not a weeaboo

>>13527744

Don't type brainlet. It makes you look like a shut in. We're talking about knife designs. The first thing you think about is meat. The second is veg. I get that you're kind stupid and probably affirmed but veg can be cut with a Nakiri if you need help. Sorry I'm bored.

>>13527764

>maybe it's different for smaller fish
it's not, it's just folded 1000 times with superior japanese steel tier shit, fetishizing japan.

Chinese were the only ones to get knives right with the cleaver. It does everything you ask of it. Chef knives are for posers. nip knives are for weebshits. Buy a cleaver.

>>13527775
We don't live in the samurai era anon. No one is folding steel anymore outside of pattern welding and japs have access to the same steel westerns do now.

>>13527775

I don't like shitty carbon steel blades either, asshole, but they don't "fold their blades 1000 times" like you Alabamaians like to pretend. They have highly tempered internal metal with soft metal outside. All RUST. That's the biggest problem for you flyover state cunts.

>>13527781

You're not Chen Kenichi. You'll take your stupid thumbs off. Stop trying.

>>13527786
>All RUST
clean and dry your knife when you're done.

>>13527796
Well, that would be my point, but I'm talking to the midwestern American filthnation.

When you talk to garbage people , you need to speak in their language.

>>13527612
double is better for general use
>>13527697
use a specialty tool/knife like an actual butcher
>>13527781
chinese clever is the biggest meme i think. not a clever and pointlessly used for every task for no reason. shape sucks imo.

>>13527612

>>13527821
Can even one of you useless assholes stop saying "meme"? GOD I physically hate you for using that simple concept to jibber on 4chan. GO FUCK YOURSELF.

>>13527835
It's time for you to back to your home.

>>13527835
and "based" "cuck" or "redpill" you can tell a 12 year old on this site by the use of any of those words.

>>13527848

So you're just the leech that lives on this site. Living off of suffering. What a garbage creature.

>>13527848
You want this to continue forever, don't you, mistake of humanity?

>>13527859
>>13527869

>>13527705
You are totally fucking wrong. Single bevel knives require perfectly flat stones to sharpen correctly whereas double bevel knives definitely do not.

>Americans are carving, Japanese are shaving essentially.

What the fuck are you even talking about. The west produces all of the worlds greatest chefs many of whom make extraordinarily complex and delicate dishes. Get the fuck off this board the unapologetic fucking weeaboo.

>>13528078
It's not hard to get a flat stone in this day an age. Honestly if your stones aren't flat you are disgusting and likely can't sharpen well anyway.

>>13528095
So instead of simply admitting you are wrong. You continue to move the goal posts further.

OHo oh oh its more difficult sure but hey you can flatten your stone with another tool pretty easily so thats not really an excuse!!!!

>>13527612
i have a theory that this stems from the type of lumber and access to it westerners typically have harder wood than eastern society's and much more of it so they kept their knives more like axes because everyone used axes and knew how to take care of it because wood was so plentiful. meanwhile in eastern culture wood was a sign of luxury and they developed an intricate style of joinery that required precise chiseling of soft woods more suited to a single edge

it might be more related to the west valuing strength and durability paramount to precision like in in eastern culture.

>>13528131
>I'm too retarded to buy a diamond stone
Okay fellow, learn to sharpen.

>>13528173
Excuse me but woodworkers don't use axes to make fine furniture in the west nor the east and the east isn't the only ones doing precise chisel work. Western furniture makers have centuries of precision work done by hand with chisels and other carving tools. They also knew of joinery with wood as well, weebshit.

>>13527770
chopsticks weren't even invented in japan.

>>13527821
the shape is what makes it good, you are using the weight of the blade

>>13528218
>to make fine furniture
do you really think most wood cutting is for furniture and not chopping trees for the fire/construction

>>13527795
it's the idea to meme the newfags to mutilate themselves with those knifes, i thought

>>13527781
I used to use one, but I grew to find it awkward and cumbersome to hone it in comparison to a plain old chef's knife so I stopped. Never even got around to sharpening it since honing was so uncomfortable.

>>13528678
Yeah, those luxury Japanese fires are the stuff of legend.

Are you even supposed to use single bevel knives on a cutting board? I thought they were specialty knives for filetting fish and slicing a thin, long papery piece off of starchy vegetables.

>>13528916
japan is iron poor, axes, knives ect would have been far more ubiquitous in the west than the east

>>13528927
Yeah man, Japan doesn't have steel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFLt0duNrgc

>>13528197
Kys

>>13528985
not a lot of it no

>>13529026

They're a fucking tear away island, they don't have a lot of ANYTHING. Yet, they make good use of it.

>>13529035
>knives ect would have been far more ubiquitous in the west than the east
single bevel = precision work
double bevel = workhorse

>>13529062
You've broken the code. You're absolutely correct. The best kind of correct.

>>13527612
Have fun with the chipped blade unless you cut on a sponge.

>>13527720
From a mountain of despair, a based poster of hope.

>>13528641
japs are all chinks anyway

>>13527750
Ching Chong

>>13529068
pic related, it's you trying to chop a bone with a veg knife.

>>13527781
Chinese knives are not cleavers: they are much thinner.