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>>13566164
beer

>>13566164
European tears

midsummer solstice limited release gin that i bought in the middle of winter. good though, better than regular hendricks. yesterday i finished some white whiskey called white owl. was alright.

Not the best thread to ask, but I don't want to make a whole new thread for it: Anyone got a good sake reccomendation? My favorite is probably Dassai 50, and also Dassai Sparkling. I also really like yuzu sake's but I'm open to try something new or similar to D50.

To stay on topic, I have a half-finished bottle of Nikka Coffey Malt Whiskey OP. It was a gift, it's quite good, IMO. But I still think Taketsuru is my favorite Japanese whiskey. Might have some later tonight, but I want to save it for a special occasion.

Developing my taste for Brandy at the moment.

>>13566258
I work in liquor distro. "Limited Release" is a spook, that stuff's year round. They're trying to abuse FOMO.

>>13566164
jack

>>13566275
Wakatake Onikoroshi, if you haven't tried it. Very nice, although a little too peachy peary for my own tastes. Comes in a proper 720ML bottle, which as a gluttonous westerner with a strong European liver I greatly appreciate.

>>13566164

Everything.

>>13566349
Why do your electrical sockets look so worried?

>>13566370

Not enough voltage to support this powerhouse of a whiskey collection...

>Ba...dum...tsssss...

I'm here all night!

>>13566164
Birch beer + vodka
It's a good combination.

bit tired of Whisky at the moment, what's some good entry level gin, just not merely limited for mixing?

>>13566164
For tonight

Canadian whisky - it's kinda bland but it gets you just as drunk.

>>13566164
tonight i crack one of my rare bottles.just for the hell of it

>>13566349
ever tried ileach sask strength?

>>13567250
cask strength

>>13566164
I hate all macallans but I really enjoy ardbeg uigaedail, which I hear is quite sherried.

Will I like abundah, or not? I always hear rave reviews, but nowhere around here to try it, and I'm looking to add a bottle of something to my collection. Otherwise I'll just grab another deng islay.

>>13567312
>quite sherried
if memory serves right ardbeg uigeadail 10% sherry cask in it

abunadh is sherry monster, but varies - quality wise - from batch to batch. can be fantastic - can be average.

if you are lookin for a sherry cs whisky, glendronach cs would be another - more complex - option

if you are lookin for another peaty -sherry-dram...hm...ever tried lagavulin distillers edition?

>>13567312
>>13567375
also bowmore 15yo would offer a nice combination of sherry and peat. but as highland park 18yo - it lost some quality in recent years

>>13566164

>>13567375
Glenfarclas 105 is another cask strength sherry bomb.

>>13567312
>>13567375
also bowmore 15yo offers a nice combo of sherry and peat but during the last years it lost some quality - some goes for the highland park 18yo

>>13566164
wish i had some scotch

>>13567411
yeah great bang for the buck - BUT - hard to balance.

pure - the alc is too heavy
with water - it might lose its apeal quite easy

>>13566349
No bourbon, no Canadian, no rye, no Asian. One Irish. Two geographic locations and he's drinking everything. From what I've heard of some of your scotches, good intro.

it looks like a cheap ripoff of Jack Daniels, but it's well-regarded as mass-market bourbons go

>>13566556
pls respond

>>13567661
I believe the same distiller (Heaven Hill) sells bourbon in bulk to Europe, where it's sold at Aldi under this label

nobody in Kentucky has ever heard of Clarke's, that "famous since 1866" is bullshit

(the Evan Williams brand has only existed since the 1950s for that matter)

>>13567751
forgot the picture

tom horan
it was on sale

Picked up a bottle of this reduced to clear today.

>>13566556
>drinking flavoured vodka

>>13567250

https://flaviar.com/ileach/the-ileach-cask-strength/tasting-notes-reviews

Where in the world do you get this beauty? Doesn't show up on Total wine.

>>13567510

Ty. I won't do bourbon anymore because anything super corn based gives me crazy heartburn. I do love me some rye whiskey though.

Okay so, I do fancy alcohol
But whenever I get my hands on anything stronger, I just can't stop. I will drink until wasted.

Should I just stop spending money on alcohol to prevent this from happening? It hits my wallet, my dignity and health. But damn it tastes good!

>>13567888
>I just can't stop. I will drink until wasted.
You have a problem and need help.
If you think you can avoid the process of getting help by simply abstaining, then by all means stop drinking. But how long can you stave temptation on your own?

>>13566275
I really wanna try shochu / sake but it's not a thing here in Germany unfortunately. There's one internet site that has a small selection but it's pretty expensive.

>>13567751
Germany has some really nice cheap alcohol. There's a Gin for 6,99 that is really good. I like it way better than Tanqueray.

>>13566556
>>13567713
Seageams extra dry is completely drinkable with rocks and I like lime. If your drinking it neat Hendricks or Beef Eater.

Coca-cola w a spot of vodka

>>13567888
I've been trying to cut back on drinking by buying scotch and limiting myself to one drink a night. The high price is a good incentive to not tear through a bottle.

>>13568261
What high price? Are you in CAN or AUS?

>>13566164
Roku Gin, because I'm trying to be discrete and whiskey can linger more

>>13568316
I'm used to drinking 15 dollar 5ths.

>>13566164
Got a bottle of this and so far I've made a Last Word (didn't look that great just a faint grayish purple) and a martini.

>>13568633
Gonna make a Negroni next.

>>13566556

Drinking straight gin isnt particularly pleasant. Ive never known anyone to enjoy it. In my experience, anything above mid-tier gin is just pointless since its getting mixed anyway.

Closest you might come to tasting it neat (and still finding it enjoyable) is in a martini, but im not sure thats a drink youd make for home drinking.

i dunno, maybe some people enjoy neat gin and think its worth going expensive. Personally I only go for mid tier now (if buying it myself)

>>13568695
>Drinking straight gin isnt particularly pleasant
because it wasn't meant to be consumed straight.

>In my experience, anything above mid-tier gin is just pointless since its getting mixed anyway.
I'd agree if you said vodka.

>Closest you might come to tasting it neat (and still finding it enjoyable) is in a martini, but im not sure thats a drink youd make for home drinking.
Martinis are easy fuck to make and I'm literally drinking one right now as I respond to you.. at home.

If you want to go out on a limb I'd suggest buying an Old Tom Gin. That's a gin you can drink straight.

>>13568695
>Drinking straight gin isnt particularly pleasant
Depends on the gin. Bottom shelf London Dry is obviously going to be harsh but I've had plenty of craft gins that were smooth and delicious neat.

Pretty good

>>13566275
Dassai is one of the best widely available sake, so you can try the higher end offerings like Dassai 39 or even Dassai 23. If you can find it, I recommend Ikki na Onna from Tedorigawa brewery. They came to fame a few years ago via the Netflix documentary "birth of sake" and I hunted down a few bottles. Best sake I've had outside of Japan.

If you happen to find yourself in Osaka, hunt down a bottle of Saito shuzo and experience excellence like no other

Old grandad bonded and a&w root beer

>>13568951
sounds like a something a gay old grandad would drink.

>>13566349
I've been wanting to try Talisker for a while, but it's always been a little too expensive whenever I'm actually out buying liquor. How do you like it?

>>13568633
I like this a lot actually.

>>13568997
Also, for anyone else who's had a lot of experience with whiskey, I'm really trying to expand my horizons here. I've tried a few different scotches (Glenfiddich, Glenmorangie, Laphroaig, Dalwhinnie), as well as some local brews up in here in Minnesota. They all stood out to me for different reasons, but my palette's still pretty unrefined. Are there any quality whiskeys I'm missing out on, or that I should keep an eye out for?

>>13569050
glenfarclas 12/17
oban
glenkinchie
longmorn 16

>>13566164
Quick question: Where the heck can you buy those huge ass bottles of whiskey in the cradle that isn't the airport? I'm talking about the ones that are like 4.5L or so. I'm in the US, and I haven't seen one of these at my local liquor warehouses. Is it a special order thing outside of airports or is it exclusive to them?

Drinking this. Pretty good

>>13566275
I work at a sushi restaurant and have just really begun dipping my toes into sake. Joto makes pretty great affordable sake. The Junmai is really great. I'd recommend the blue if you want a nigori (unfiltered sweeter sake)

>>13569198
It's peppery, always peppery.

>>13569214
Tastes smokey for me, smokey and briney

>>13569220
All islay are smokey peaty and briney. Ardbeg adds pepper.

>>13569160
for domestic sales in the US, the largest allowed bottle size is 1.75 L

this does not apply to duty-free shops at airports and the Canadian and Mexican borders, but they can only sell to you if you're immediately going out of the country.

liquor laws are super complicated

>>13569160
They're not exclusive, but most liquor stores don't bother with them because it's not duty free when you buy domestically.

A friend of mine got me a gift set of Glenmorangie whiskey for Christmas. I have not tried any of them yet, but I had the original 10 year before. Does anyone know how the other offerings compare? I think this set comes with the original, quinta ruban, nectar d'or and the Lastana.

>>13568965
You fucking boaster.

You braggart.

You literal big talker.

You absolute lip-flapper, blackguard, blatherskite, gascon, scoundrel, villain, knave, jaw-jacker, gravy-trainer, tall-talker and gas-bag nigger.

Come to me ANY DAMN TIME you like and I PROMISE YOU I will OUT-QUAFF YOU AND ALL YOUR FRUITY FELLOWS.

>>13569228
quinta ruban: red fruit and a bit more of a warming quality
nectar d'or: honey and vanilla, maybe a hint of tropical fruit
lastana: orange, baking spices

The 14 year quinta ruban is worth the extra few bucks, has a much more fruit cakey quality
the 18 year is my go-to for a sweeter dram
signet is fucking amazing, fig pudding and coffee, but it's also been going up in price too much to keep buying it

>>13569098
What are those like? What should I expect from them? I know I've had Oban before, but it was far too long ago for me to remember the taste

>>13569287
glenfarclas is a classic sherried scotch, expect lots of sweet and savory spice all framed by a pleasant oakiness and moderate citrus. 17 year is probably best bang-for-buck, but 12 year is good if you don't want to drop ~100 bucks
oban is smokey and salty, but with a good sweetness to back it up. just a touch of fruit on the end
glenkinchie is grassy and floral, but also pleasantly light, subtle oak and honey
longmorn 16, starts out sweet-spicy , but becomes fruitier with what I can only describe as a waffle cone quality as it opens up. It's just fucking great and one of my go-to's, I recommend it to everyone

>>13567818
>le flavored vodka meme
It would benefit these threads if you were to drink about fifteen shots of un-flavored vodka in quick succession and then fall asleep on your back

>>13569248
JESUS CHRIST BOYS, GET OUT OF THE WAY IT'S THE WHISKY KING!

>>13566164
Lately, it's been Lagavulin 16, which is absolutely delicious. My bottle of Ardbeg 10 is almost empty and I'm pretty sad about it. I've got half a bottle of Macallan 12 I've been working through slowly as well.
I've been drinking some cognac lately though and I've been enjoying it a lot so I haven't been drinking much whiskey lately

>>13566295
Same. It's really good and has a similar kind of taste to whiskey but is different enough to be able to enjoy and appreciate both as they are

>>13566600
I always would mix it with vanilla coke and for some reason the flavors paired perfectly

>>13567853
im sorry here in germany every onlineshop has it listed so i presumed you can get in other countries as well

its a damn good bang for the buck dram, so i really recommend it

>>13566600
>>13569666
>Satan*100 and Mutual Oral Sex Satan meet up to discuss their terrible taste in liquor

>>13567661
I always use mine for making whiskey sours. I've never gotten into it as a straight sipper. Luckily it's so cheap I don't feel bad mixing it

>>13569675
Understandable. After drinking truly good bourbon, Evan Williams will strike you as being a hell of a lot like motor oil

>>13568695
>a martini, but im not sure thats a drink youd make for home drinking.
Martinis are great and they're so piss easy to make that drinking them at home is a no-brainer. I only ever have martinis at home

>>13569050
Give the Islay whiskies a try and see if really peaty scotches are something you enjoy. Good brands are Lagavulin, Ardbeg and Lophroaig.
They're not for everyone but I can't drink anything else now

>>13569684
There are just so many better bourbons for the same price or not much more that it's hard to justify Even Williams as anything but a good mixer.

>>13569707
For a good mixer in the same price range that you could also conceivably sip, try Four Roses.

>>13569707
>There are just so many better bourbons for the same price or not much more that it's hard to justify Even Williams as anything but a good mixer.
are you fucked m8?
EW BiB is the king of the bottom-shelf. Higher quality stuff will easily run you 10-15 dollars more at the bare minimum

>>13569714
BiB is different and I agree that for the price it's hard to beat.

>>13569050
if you like sherry glenfarclas 15 yo is a good start.
if you are willing to spend an extra buck glendronach 15yo is really good. my favorite is (pic)

>>13569214
Peppery? What kind of faggot describes whiskey as "peppery?" You best go back to your homo bar, men are speaking here.

>>13568997
Don't bring up talisker here or the anti-talisker-shill-shill will shit up the thread with a thousand posts.

I think it's breddy good, but I like lagavulin and ardbeg better. Got some good smoke, a little peat and a nice salty front-end, but they do add carmel.

>>13568997
talisker is good. very solid dram. i always have a bottle at home. but to be completly honest, talisker cannot compete with other brands like laphroaig, ardbeg or lagavulin.

not only ppm-wise. when it comes to flavor the others are more complex

>>13567713
imagine using her breast milk in a cocktail, as a joke haha.

what's your favorite cheap whisky, /ck/?

>>13570895
When I was working in Tennessee I asked around and was told that Evan Williams is a solid bourbon, it's good to take recommendations. I hear there's a white label one as well now but I never see it around.

>>13570895
So EW, not cheap, I think inexpensive is a better term.

>>13569248
The KING

Gentlemen, behold! Corn!

>>13572129
>mellow
>100 proof
Doubt.

>>13570918

The white label is the bottled-in-bond product. The most based of all, and the unsung hero of affordable but quality liquor.

>>13568730
>>13568751

Fair enough. Martini at home never really appealed to me.

I've got a few nice gins in my collection - Psychopomp, Monkey 47, Ableforths Bathtub, Adnams First Rate. Id say they are all above mid tier. Nice in a martini, but too expensive for me to just mix in to cocktails, so i dont really drink them much.

Perhaps Im just a tastelet.

I'm not an alcoholic.

>>13572686
so you are not worthy to post here

>>13572846
Piss off heretic.

>>13572850
>little faggot talk

lol

>>13572876
Good one child.

>>13572882
at least we have fun :)

>>13572894
If you have to be drunk to have fun that's just sad. Get help.

Canadian Mist, drinking it out of a crystal glass does in fact make it taste somewhat better.

>>13572899
>i am catholic

i see.. ok get well

>>13566258
Speaking of purple gin, I tried 4 pillars shiraz gin recently. It was fucking disgusting. It's no wonder we use wine barrels and not wine itself.

>>13566556
Gin is all over the place man. There is no relationship between price and quality, and even stuff you'd expect to increase quality like abv and age don't mean a lot. Also I suspect there's huge regional biases for local botanical.
I recommend Giniversity if you can get it.

>>13568695
Like whisky good gin should be sipped. Mixing it with a very neutral tonic doesn't ruin it however. You can absolutely pay $80 and end up with a mix only gin though, which makes the misconception understandable.

Abunadh, Quinta Ruben and Lassanta.

>>13567312
Why didn't you like it? If it's a lack of intensity then Abunadh has you covered.

>>13567808
I've been intrigued by this bottle before; Aldi had it on sale for $90 over Christmas. But I heard supermarket whiskies are really shit for the age so I didn't bother. How is it?

>>13569050
Which of those did you try?
Glenfiddich, and its immediate competitors Glen Moray, Glen Grant, Glenlivet all age fantastically well. Try to get ahold of some older ones. Glen Moray 15 being quite cheap if you're on a budget.
Glenmorangie is kind of timid imo, the cask finishes are where it is at. Do try the Quinta Ruben / Lassanta and try other sherry bombs if you like them.
Laphroaig has some serious competition. Try Ardbeg, Lagavulin and Talisker. Bowmore, Ledaig, Caol Ila are worse though imo.
Dalwhinnie 15 is great, but I've found the others to be timid.

>>13570169
Give the distillers edition a go. It's sherried and costs about as much as a Lagavulin 16.

>>13568633
I'm trying to source it because I am a sucker for marketing

>>13572913
That pigeon was a real jerk.

Picked this up today. Very light flavors, nice and refreshing.

>>13572129
Quite appetizing.

I don't know the first thing about whisky, but I got this for my dad's birthday next week.

Drinking this tonight.

When I first got in to whisky, I tried this and thought it was great. Its not as good as I remember, probably because I've tried a lot of better whiskies since. But for the price, its fine.

Thoughts on The Macallan? It's been my goto for years, but I'm wondering where it rates in the world of scotch and whiskey. Any recommendations on something to try based on my like for this?

>>13573277
Macallan is ok, but extremely expensive for what it is.

If you wanted to pay a bit extra and stick with sherry cask, you could try Glendronach 18. Alternatively there are a lot of other (far cheaper) whiskies out there of all different styles which are just as good.

>>13572931
>catholic
>anti-alcohol
they literally drink wine every sunday and pretend it's blood.

>>13573336
Tomatin 12 Sherry cask is dirt cheap at around 30USbux and excellent.

>>13572931
>Catholic
>anti-drinking
You're a retard.

>>13573604
He's got the wrong denomination, but there's been a fundie guerrilla denouncing "sinful" activity on many boards.
When they aren't promoting nofap or abstinence, you can often see their posts in alcohol threads trying to be aggressively sober but avoiding the use of profanity.

>>13573621
>religion is behind everything retarded that comes out of /pol/
no

>>13573814
>made with
so, like, it's a regular bottle of Beam with a couple of drops of the barrel extract mixed in?

want to try some japanese whisky
in my country I can get at a reasonable price Suntory Toki, Nikka From The Barrel or Akashi

>>13573950
Japanese whisky in general has the Macallan effect: a good product that is sold at an insane markup. Better to wait until it returns to age-stated offerings.

It's pretty good, I'm usually a borbon fan but this is really hitting the spot.

White Russians with Kamora instead of Kalluah. Taste the exact same and it’s much cheaper

>>13573950
Why the fuck did I think this was a real whiskey? And my follow up:

What’s a solid tequila? I’ve only been able to stomach patron and Cabo Wabo.

>>13573950
Nikka is the only jap whiskey worth the price, suntory especially is so fucking expensive even for retail

>>13574374
riazul
good tequila isn't worth the price tag though

>>13566258
I didn't realize they did other versions, but going between straight Hendrick's and Jagerbombs isn't bad.

Johnny Walker Blue Label and Pabst Blue Ribbon like a real chad

Got a $110 special bottle of Wild Turkey I bought for a special occasion before realizing I have no friends. Don't wanna open it now.

>>13573092
I fucking love this shit. Can drink it like water.

>>13574460
Oh god, fucking Wild Turkey lol. Havnt drank that shit since like 9th grade lol. Fucking puked all night and the following morning, and that must have been 15 years ago.

>>13573240
I felt like the stuff was super overrated for the price. I much prefer gentlemen jack to it. I’ve kind of stoped with jack all together though because they are too sweet, like rum, which is fucking abhorrent.

>>13573950
nikka from the barrel is beautiful

but dont expect it to be like scotch

>>13573059
>Why didn't you like it?
Macallan 12 and 15 had a weird cloying, sickly sweetness. It was like really bad medicine. I don't mind medicinal, laphroaig is medicinal/tcp and I like laphroaig. But... I dunno, cloying is the only way I can really put it.

>>13573221
>non-chill filtered
The relatively ostentatious packaging is a turn-off, but that's a good sign. Could be good. I wonder what it's a blend of.

>>13573277
please describe what you like about macallan. I've tried lots of scotches and liked all of them, but macallan grosses me out (see above)

nothing because i have hiatal hernia and i learned last week that 1oz of liquor now makes me throw up

this sucks. really bad. i was starting to get into whiskey.

>>13574460
just drink while watching Ralfy. He's a true friend to all whisk(e)y drinkers.

>>13566164
just got a nice bottle of tallisker skye single malt for 219 dkk super nice
the smokyness took me by surprise it was a super smoky but very sweet taste i liked it but it was very different to what i am used to drinking (glenfiddich) but id probably keep my scotch habits up since its better than downing a bottle of cherry wine a day

>>13566275
i desperately want a bottle of nikka coffey malt but i am not wealthy enough and need to place my priorities better place

feels bad

Shit is crazy smooth

>>13566164
Woodford Reserve Double Oaked. It's a great bourbon, a lot of complexity and spice; but I'm not sure that it's worth the price compared to just the regular Woodford Reserve.

>>13575013
its garbage. stop falling for nikka shit. cheap whiskey astronomical price

>>13568997
got a bottle of it for 219 dkk which is a very good price in my oppinion

its very good its smoky but not so much that it completely takes over its sort of sweet and the alcohol doesent overpower at all its very smooth

i enjoyed it very much

Highland Park Magnus

It is enjoyable. Mostly got it because it was on sale

>>13575016
Interesting take. IMO Double Oaked is fantastic and it's got a bit of unique profile going on compared to most other bourbons. If you're gonna spend $50 on a bottle of bourbon, that's a good one I'd say.
I recently went through a bottle of regular Woodford and I found it extremely mediocre. There's several sub $30 bourbons I prefer based on flavor alone. Old Forester 100 is more complex, richer and cheaper to boot.

>>13567888
Here's something you might find useful
https://youtu.be/P-qS__DlxYQ?t=160
tl;dw you have the al/ck/ie gene

>>13575016
I only had double oaked once but it's regular woodford with all the rough edges smoothed so everything blends so well together. It's also the creamiest bourbon I've ever tasted.
If it were 10 bucks cheaper it'd be a solid choice, because it's definitely not worth two bottles or 4R SiB.

>>13575315
Regular Woodford is way overpriced for what it is. No idea why, probably some marketing bullshit.

>>13575013
>nikka coffey malt
not worth the money

go for nikka from the barrel

>>13574374

>>13575020
elaborate

>>13575497
but the coffey malt sounds super interesting
why is it not worth it? and how does nikka from the barrel compare?

I hear a lot of raving about evan williams bottled in bond. Is it worth sipping? That is to say, it's worth drinking for the flavor, not just because it's easier to get down than other stuff in the price range because you're trying to get drunk on low calories.

I'm a total scotch snob and kinda think all bourbons are pretty similar except I do like bookers and stagg jr. I don't dislike stuff like blantons, woodford, or IW 15, but there isn't a huge difference to me that justifies the price of the bottles. Hence, if EW BiB has even a little bit of 'interesting' going on, I'll probably make it my go-to bourbon.

I don't expect a $17 bottle to keep up with a $60+ single malt, but

>>13575013
I've tried most of the Suntory and Nikka whiskys. Coffey Malt and Coffey Grain are both good but I think grain is better. Taketsuru is my favorite, even though it isn't the most expensive, there's just something about it that's just so good. Miyagikyo is great as well, superb really. Nikka from the barrel is good too, and I actually dislike the Toki, there was just something I didn't enjoy about it. Yoichi is really nice too. Nikkas Gin is also great.

Suntorys Hakushu is amazing too. Hibiki I haven't had in a long time but it was good, as good as Coffey Grain.

I'm sorry I couldn't be more descriptive but I haven't tasted most of them in a while. And I know /ck/ has a bit of hate for Japanese whiskys for whatever reason. I really suggest you search out the Taketsuru as I find it to be the best. But coffey grain is great and you'll be hard pressed to find any others with the shortages going on, or not finding them at high prices, but if you can get Hakushu do so as its great too.

>>13576080
No one hates Japanese whisky here, we all just recognize that it's massively overpriced for what it is.
If I walk into a store and they give me a bottle of suntory NAS because I'm the 1000th customer that that or whatever, I'd be really happy.

If they gave me a coupon for the sale price of that same bottle, I'm walking out with with either a better bottle or two bottles of equivalent whisky.

>>13576154
It's over priced cause its running out and everyone is buying it up, supply and demand and all that bullshit.

But Ive genuinely not had better whiskeys and Ive tried a ton, even ones that are really expensive and well known. Maybe I'm biased who knows, but still. All the Japanese ones Ive had Ive enjoyed, besides Toki.

Yet people here will be like "shit whiskey, overpriced bullshit".

>>13575647
coffey only refers to differnet distil-technique.

the coffey malt is 100% malt. from the barrel is a blended cask strength whisky.

both have a smooth fruity-floral character


coffey malt is not a bad whisky at all, but its overpriced.

nikka from the barrel is flavor-wise not so different and offers simply way more bang for the back

currently drinking a whisky sour made with laphroaig

Can someone recommend me some armagnac that works well in cocktails like brandy crustas, sidecars etc.? Cognac is too expensive for that imo and armagnac has the best price quality ratio. But because it's not popular you don't find much about the different brands/products.

>>13566164
Jameson
Tastes like tequila, ie like soap

>>13573277
For Sherry, it's Glendronach 12. I do like the double and triple cask Macallan. Macallan is good if you get it on sale, otherwise it's just paying extra for the brand

>>13573277
macallan used to be great

it died for me with 1824 series

the 12yo sherry oak is still good but heavily overpriced

when it comes to sherry malts glendronach and glenfarclas take the cake

i personally recommend glenfarclas 15yo and glendronach 15yo

also auchentoshan three wood, aberlour 12yo non-chill filtered and bunnahabhain 12yo are worth a try

>>13577530
I work for macallan in Scotland. Can confirm their pricing strategy is simply to be expensive for the sake of being expensive. Highland Park and Glenrothes literally owned by the same company, natural colour and sherry casked, and are almost infinitely cheaper (£3000 for a macallan 30 year old against 300 for a Glenrothes 30 year old). A reversion to being a lifestyle brand rather than a whisky brand, and they think they can somehow charge as much as a car for 700ml of whisky. It's a shame because the whisky is decent, even macallan gold, but you can't justify spending so much for a bottle of 12 year old liquid.

PS they're getting rid of the triple cask/fine oak, so if you like it, stockpile it now

>>13577573
They are also getting rid of their customers as it seems.

>>13577573
>Highland Park
another sad story in book to be honest

15 years ago highland park 18yo was incredible

these days its good but heavily overpriced so bowmore 15yo beats it left-handed

their whole range is so messed up.

feels bad beceause i started my singlemalt career with a highlandpark 12yo

about macallan:

i still have a few bottles macallan 10 yo sherry cask in storage and i hold them in high regards , but thats about it

apart from that - as i already said - macallan is not worth the money anymore

nonetheless all the best to you

slàinte mhath

>>13577628
The demand keeps going up and up, but not because people think it's a "luxury brand" but because it's the idiots single malt, for the sort of cunt who drinks scotch whisky to pretend they're 'fancy'. A Glenfiddich 18 year old is 50 quid? A 18 year old macallan must be better because it's £250-300, so reason retards anyway. Not to mention all the NAS "collectables" like concept, edition and folio - literally standard run of the mill whiskies that no one ever drinks because they're 'investments'.

Anyway, I'm drinking Arran 10yo right now, a real every day

>>13577690
Sure, but i don't get why you would support such a greedy company by still buying any product from them. Production cost is like 10$ but they charge you 100$ fedora tax.

>>13575013
Its £50. How broke are you that you cant even scrape together £50?

Whats something cheap and kinda sweet? Nothing tastes like grass or smoke. So far im thinkong evan williams or jim beam

>>13577573
>getting rid of the triple cask/fine oak
Fuck, that's the Macallan 12 I really like and get every once in a while.

>>13578436
*nothing that
*thinking

>>13578436
Makers Mark obviously.

>>13578483
Isnt that like $50?

>>13577674
Highland park is doing this gay viking marketing thing, seems fake

>>13577690
18 Gelnfoddich is shit value, 15 is better. Glenfiddich is good for it's estery fruity notes which fade with age

>>13578531
It costs 20-25€ here in Germany so it can't be that expensive in the US.

>>13570918
>>13572153
>Evan Williams

There is a "secret" Evan Williams bourbon that's better and cheaper than black label or white label: Ezra Brooks.

It's known that it's distributed by Luxco, but what is not well known is that Heaven Hill, the makers of Evan Williams, makes this one, too. It's $22...for a handle (1,750 mL). It's on par with White Label by taste and on par with Black Label by price. Highly recommend as an everyday quality sipper that everyone can find and afford.

Got some Balvenie 12-year Doublewood single-malt scotch for my birthday. Definitely better than blended scotch, but I've tasted bourbons that taste better than this and for one-third the price. Conclusion: scotch is overrated.

>>13578531
>Isnt that like $50?
Maker's Mark is in the mid-20s like most of the well-known ones like WT 101. Woodford Reserve is slightly more expensive, but it tastes like an improved version of MM, so get that one instead. You can also tell people it's the official bourbon of the Kentucky Derby.

>>13578627
Monkey shoulder is Balvennie

>>13578627
That's a very timid single malt. The reason everybody drinks single malts is because blends are timid.

Scotch is too expensive. Clynelish 14 cost $80 and I see people a year ago talking about it like it was $40. Local grocery store wants $70 for Balvenie 12

>>13566258
i have two (empty) bottle of that shit in my house because I drink it straight...jezusfuk it’s so good

I am not an alcoholic
Im an alchemist or a wizard pr some shit

what am i in for?

Made Violet Hour’s Romeo and Juliet cocktail, topped with club soda. Not sure why it was so hyped up, but you can’t go wrong with cucumber and gin.

>not whisky

There’s no cocktail thread, please bear with me.

>>13578898
Ha! I'm drinking a glass right now!
I can't give you tasting notes like a pro but I find it delicious.

>>13578898
Sherry

Elijah Craig Small Batch. 94 Proof and pretty smooth for that.

>>13570918
>>13578613
If you want the absolute cheapest quaffable bourbon look for Benchmark, it's watered down Buffalo Trace.

>>13566258
I'd like to introduce you to the big girl version of that gin, my friend.
I've very met a gin that was such an easy sipper straight out of the bottle.

>>13566556
I highly highly recommend the following entries :
Roku from Suntory and The Botanist, an Islay dry.

Roku has a citrusy brightness from the yuzu, it's smooth with ice and works in all drinks (Unless you need something specific like Uncle Tom)
>25-30 price point
Botanist is a 22 y Islay, and the botanicals are phenomenal. If you like more complex flavors this would be the one for you, also very good over ice. It's my go to for using the nice tonic.
>30-40 max price point

>>13574378
Yamazaki is fantastic as well.

>>13579187
I thought it was just like caramel VSOP. Japan doesn't get peat and smoke and the like.

>>13574378
The liquor store across from my office used to sell 750ml of Suntory Toki for $25. I must have bought too much of it in a one-month period because now it's $35 -- still cheaper than anywhere else I've seen it in the US.

>>13579177
oh neat we have the botanist at work. is it good enough to sip?

>>13579191
I prefer Speysides, so I'm not a fan of peat and smoke.

>>13579266
Absolutely, it's pretty vegetal but it's got a great depth.

>>13566164
I only drink 100% real cum
Cum is literally better than soy as it does not contain estrogens

Sippin on pic related & a bit of beer atm, gin & tonic earlier

>>13578627
dog balvenie is literally babbies first single malt, it's so fucking neutral

One of the rare times that I'm drinking a non-local beer(St. Louis fag) hell or high watermelon by 21st amendment brewery, good stuff.

>>13579200
Toki would be worth it for ~20, there's nothing wrong with it but it's pretty rough

>>13579187
Yamazaki is good but not worth more than 50. The fact that it's like 130 bucks now is just proof that collectorfags ruin everything niche

>>13578613
I'll be picking me up some of that. My current every day drinker is white label.

>>13579177
>It's my go to for using the nice tonic
Who taught you backwards? nice tonic is for shit gin. You want flavourless tonic for nice gin if you have to mix it.

>>13578627
Don't judge all scotch based on Balvenie, one of the most boring scotches.
Try a smoky Islay and prepare to have your reality shaken.

I tried Weller Antique 107 the other day and it was excellent. Going to try some pappy van winkle 15 year next but only if I can get a shot for less than $50. I think I'm in luck though, cause theres a small bourbon bar near where I live that is known to usually carry it and has good enough relationships with big bourbon brands to get special bottlings.

>>13578898
I genuinely love seeing this shit in every whiskey/sky thread as much as seeing Redbreast. We're helping a family owned distillery that doesn't jew people on prices every time we meme this image

>>13566164
I really like this one

>>13566164
This bad boy recently. I will never boy standard bottlings from now on.

did anyone here try this one recently?

used to be one of my favorites, but i heard it lost some quality recently

>>13566164
Seagram's 7, very, very unfortunately. If my work didn't stock it I'd be balls deep in a bottle of knob creek right now.

>>13566295
I love whiskey but cognac is turning into my go to.
I think the effects of being distilled from grapes makes it better. I love red wine for its effects and taste, and cognac gives me a similar but amplified effect. Very warm and comfortable buzz.
Whiskey is more stimulating. When I drink whiskey I always end up staying awake till sunrise.

I'm really into bourbon right now

>>13580398
Want to try Bunna because I hear great things but it's not sold in my state sadly.

>>13566164
Ive been getting more and more into wine, nothing more than like 25 bucks but i feel super cool drinking a bottle of merlot. Like i understand why women become wine and cat ladies. Anyway its good bc one bottle is enough to get me where i need to go, and itll last me a few episodes of the sopranos or game of thrones. Sons of anarchy requires something darker or beer though

>>13580415
This one gives me a hangover like no other. Not sure why.
If I go for that price point I'd rather have a bottle of Woodford Reserve

>>13580422
I've been drinking red wine every night for months.
It's great. I found some good red wines that are under 10$. There's one South African vineyard that sells their bottles for 5$ and they're great.
Best 5-10$ red wines are Dark Horse and Ubikwa.
Around the 40-50$ range you should try The Prisoner.

>>13566164
1- Monkey Shoulder
2. Aperol
3. Club Soda

>>13580435
I liked dark horse but the Coppola (godfather director) wines really fit with me pretending im a mafioso. Is the prisoner the australian one with the photo of the actual prisoner?

>>13566164
Not currently drinking. When I do I just get a few 4 packs of the cheapest fucking beer I can find that isn't below 4%. If I'm feeling particularly frugal I'll opt for a £2 bottle of cider from Aldi.

>>13580453
Yes. It's excellent. It's a pretty young red blend, I think 2017 are on the market now. I let it chill in the fridge for 10-20 minutes before drinking.

>>13580453
The one you're thinking of is 19 Crimes. It's not bad but that's a 12$ wine, the prisoner is 40-50$

>>13580465
>>13580469
>tfw i was actually talking about 19 crimes and now i feel like a classless gavon

>>13569222
not all, but majority is.
pic related is from islay and has 0 smoke.
best non peated whisky i have tasted so far.

>>13578898
Had it on a night out once, liked it a lot

>>13580391
I've had good luck with independents recently. But I would have never tried that one given that it's just a 3 year younger Ledaig. How good could it be?

>>13578898
haven't tried it yet but i have a bottle of pic related and it's pretty damn good.
>1 litre Single Malt
>60% Vol.
>34,- €
good price and good whisky

>>13566349
How's that Redbreast 12 my man? Been willing to go after it for a while.