/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>Now what?
Discuss what you would do, discuss how unfair RNGesus is, post results, discuss results, see what others have done, shiptoast, etc. Have fun!

In the interest of not reaching the bump limit within hours; only post end results, stitched up progress pictures, or links to your cookalong thread here - not full 30 photo cookalongs.


"The real prize are the experiences and friends you make along the way. Challenge yourself <3" - OP, who is slightly homosexual.

Cool, sounds fun, I'll see what I can do.

>for frying only neutral cooking oils, nothing infused or with a strong flavor like lard or virgin olive oil.

why

>>13681404
What mode are you going for? These ingredients would be pretty easy and tasty for Rare.

>>13681417
So you work harder to make it tasty.

But you can infuse plain oils with the RNG ingredients if you desire. You can make and cook with corn syrup oil emulsion this week if you want.

Oh and I forgot to mention ingredients can be fresh or dried.

>>13681417
>>13681450
As long as the corn syrup/oil emulsion is only for cooking in ofc. Incorporating huge amounts of oil in the final product like making mayonnaise when given eggs in Rare mode is frowned upon.

>caviar
>spearmint
>red snapper

Those are kind of hard to get for a lot of people. The ingredients are way too specific. The rules are far too specific. Specific enough to kill a lot of possible creativity. You also need to include ingredients that are at least somewhat synergistic so someone with at least basic knowledge of flavor pairing should be running this. Jesus man you really fucked this whole idea up. The guy who did this before you did a way better job and it was still cancer

>>13681362

>>13681547
>Those are kind of hard to get for a lot of people.
how about the fact that it's not possible to make edible food using those ingredients.

>>13681547
yeah. you might want to do ingredients that most people would like already have in their pantry/fridge instead of shop for this specific "project"
if you want actual participation that is

>>13681362
This is going to be another look at /ck/ can't cook or don't care enough to do so. This always ends badly. Good luck though. I'll watch.

>>13681362
Yeah, no. This isn't gonna work. Shit thread.
Red snapper isn't even in fucking season.

>>13681547

>>13681362
Not a meal so not sure if this counts but I will try to make a minty hot sauce. I doubt this would go well with any other ingredients listed.

>>13681547
>Those are kind of hard to get for a lot of people.
What shithole do you live in that you can't get mint? Spearmint is just the normal supermarket mint.

And if you truly can't find at least 2 ingredients after looking everywhere, you can go easy mode and do replacements.

>The ingredients are way too specific. The rules are far too specific.
Are you perhaps illiterate?

>Well-done w/ chup FREEDOM mode:
Must contain at least 2 of the listed ingredients in some form, reasonable substitutions allowed eg. scotch bonnets instead of ancho, pumpkin instead of kabocha. Ingredients don't even have to be the focus of the dish.

Caviar can be replaced with roe from other fish and red snapper can also be replaced with another fish if you can't find it. Hell, one can of deenz will get you roe and fish in one fell swoop.

>You also need to include ingredients that are at least somewhat synergistic so someone with at least basic knowledge of flavor pairing should be running this.
I didn't pick the ingredients, it's randomly generated. And for FREEDOM mode you can use whatever additional synergistic ingredients you want.

I'm not here to coddle people and feed ready-made recipes like 'oh here are some meat, starch, veggies, and wait for it... peanut butter! so random right?! see what you can make teehee'.

No. This is a challenge. Use your brains.

>>13681549
>>13681552
>>13681559
>>13681576
>>13681577
You're all imagination-less DISAPPOINTMENTS :(

>Medium mode:
Listed ingredients as the focus of the dish with access to pantry essentials such as flour, olive oil, eggs, milk, herbs & seasoning. No ingredient substitutions. If RNGesus shits out 'ancho chile peppers', you either use ancho chile peppers or don't use it at all. Must use a minimum of 2 listed ingredients. No pre-prepared ingredients such as pasta sauce unless it is one of the RNG ingredients.

>Well-done w/ chup FREEDOM mode:
Must contain at least 2 of the listed ingredients in some form, reasonable substitutions allowed eg. scotch bonnets instead of ancho, pumpkin instead of kabocha. Ingredients don't even have to be the focus of the dish.

>>13681681
Look man, you don't need to get so sensitive just because I pointed out the fact that your thread is shit. Pretty much everyone else in the thread agrees. Do you get this upset every time you get constructive criticism? The thread was bad before, but after your temper tantrum and book of a post it's just straight up embarrassing now. Just delete the thread, my dude

>>13681698
No one wants 6 different rule sets in one competition, you dense fuck.

>>13681597
The only thing I can't get my hands on is the corn syrup so I'm going to make a steamed red snapper fish sausage in bowl-shape (seasoned with mint and hot sauce) and fill it with cheap caviar.

I'll try to make it on Rare mode even though I suspect Medium would yield tastier fish sausage as more seasoning is available

>>13681718
>1 game.
>Easy, medium, or hard.
>Pick one.
>Play.
How is this hard?

>>13681698
Whine all you want, it doesn't change the fact that red snapper isn't in season right now.

>>13681755
There's no shame in doing easy mode and picking a different fish.

>>13681727
Good luck anon, fish sausage sounds fucking disgusting but godspeed.

>>13681768
Then what's the fucking point?

>try to make a community competition for a low engagement messageboard with few serious users
>create a competition format with a higher level of investment than most TV cooking shows
not only do I have to come up with a recipe using a set of ingredients selected at random with no regard to their availability, I have to pay for them. people won't try the dish I make, so they will judge it on visuals alone, and they will unlikely be kind in their criticism, if indeed it gets any response at all. this is a fucking stupid idea for a competition appealing only to those with the right combination of vanity, spare cash and free time, and you will get at most 2 entrants. good luck

>>13681769
Nah fish sausage/balls are great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6_qExnAPKA

>>13681782
Like I said, I didn't pick the ingredients.

This isn't some dick sucking contest where you go hard or go home. Let go of your pride and challenge yourself as far as you're willing to go. Who are you trying to impress? What's the point of anything?

Maybe I'll change it to allow substitutions to Medium next week if people are too ego-butthurt to do easy mode.

>>13681825
No you fucking moron, just make one set of solid rules and ingredients that can actually all be paired together. Then people would actually participate. You have no idea how to make a game fun

>>13681821
>I have to come up with a recipe using a set of ingredients selected at random
That's the fun and challenge.

>with no regard to their availability
>I have to pay for them
If there's a will, there is a way.

>people won't try the dish I make
You get to enjoy the fruits of your labour.

>they will judge it on visuals alone
They'll judge it on visuals and your cooking process. Although I admit both will probably be equally unkind.

Not a competition. A challenge. The only thing you compete against if yourself and your self-imposed limits.

If you guys are just going to argue about what you can and can't use and not actually make anything and post it, then just leave the thread, you guys ruined last year's challenge, so fuck off

>>13681865
>They'll judge it on visuals and your cooking process
no they will judge you based on how mu ch of a weeb you're willing to be and how meme worthy your food is. go ask toast sandwich fag who toasted three pieces of bread and cooked beef so well done it became jerky. everyone thought he was a culinary god.

>>13681698
for rare I actually have 3 different dishes I can do from these but I don't have access to the ingredients for the ones worth actually eating, I have no need for hot mint candies.
the randomizer site you used is one I looked at and immediately wrote off as garbage after 3-4 randomizations
the lack of a scoring system is a problem too, originality should be rewarded as much as having something tried and tested, as it sits, fish sticks with bbq sauce scores the same as candied caviar stuffed snapper. Prizes are not important but a "winner is u" is friendly competition
honestly, I'd really like to do something, but this is just not well thought out

a better way to do it would be to set up a cycle of common single items on a calendar, and keeping in mind availability of items, it's fairly easy to get non-local produce if it's in season, and damned expensive otherwise.
it's not as easy a project as clicking the very first ingredient randomizer on google and yelling at people to go spend money on things they couldnt buy if they wanted to.
I was going to offer you some advice in the other thread but you kinda jumped the gun and made this one

>>13681727
how the fuck is corn syrup the one thing you cant get? it's in the baking aisle dude, stuff is shelf stable enough you can keep it in your cupboards for 15+ years without worries
great on vanilla ice cream

>>13681865
>That's the fun and challenge.
it would be fun if it wasn't so burdensome.
>If there's a will, there is a way.
there isn't a will. no one is going to do this.
>You get to enjoy the fruits of your labour.
i get to do that every time i cook, this adds nothing.
>They'll judge it on visuals and your cooking process.
they'll judge it on visuals.
>Not a competition. A challenge. The only thing you compete against if yourself and your self-imposed limits.
i would like to enter a competition or challenge. just not a doomed, onerous one such as this.

>>13681858
>just make one set of solid rules
Is picking one out of three and following it too hard?

>ingredients that can actually all be paired together
No.

>>13681878
<3

>>13681883
>Being too scared of getting judged negatively by anonymous image board users to have fun
Wew lad

must be a reddit board when everyone has to gang up on a single poster
>everyone says the same wahhh

we heard you retards say it was bad the first 2 posts

if it was up to me op just choose a different randomizer site, i was able to just find a "chopped mystery basket" generator, choices seem fine, and it takes 2 braincells to figure out "dulse substitute" on google

chances are the people crying about ingredients too hard to get werent going to cook anything in the first place

all it would take is 1 person to take the action to do anything with it and if it were me i'd be happy if atleast 1 person tried

>>13681912
>no

If you're unwilling to understand basic flavor pairing then you will not be able to create a successful cooking competition. I don't know why you would try to create this when you have no culinary experience at all

>>13681925
Then you have low standards

>>13681912
>>Being too scared of getting judged negatively by anonymous image board users to have fun
>Wew lad
lol it has nothing to do with being judged. it has everything to do with the fact that people on this board are willing to unironically vote for a guy who toasted three pieces of bread o ver every other anon who actually cooked something. fuck you and fuck the tastelets on this board who ruin the competition before it even begins because they vote for meme shit over legitimate cooking. everyone quit after that shit show because that's what it always devolves into. meme food and other contestants talking shit about everyone else's cooking without their trip codes on to make their food seem better. fuck you and fuck your stupid and ill conceived "contest".

>>13681925
>chances are the people crying about ingredients too hard to get werent going to cook anything in the first place
no. OP can bitch at people like me all they want, but he should be taking this as feedback, and i'm sure a lot of people would agree with me: I like posting OC and i like a reason to do so, but I am not going to do it with such fucking stupid rules. I want a reasonable expectation that I'm going to enjoy what I cook, it's going to dovetail well enough with my daily life (think factors like time, money and how well it fits in with my normal grocery shopping), and other people are going to enter the competition along with me. Otherwise I have no interest in entering. I suppose we'll just have to see if others feel the same way.

>>13681899
Not a competition though. More like a weekly set of suggestions of something weird to try.

The calendar idea is pretty good, but it'll be too generic. Everyone will be making that sort of seasonal stuff in regular cookalongs around that time anyway. This is a break out of the ordinary.

I'm in the UK and corn syrup is not sold on its own literally anywhere except in online specialist stores.

>>13681925
I don't know if I'm on the same generator but it gave me dried spicy mango, glazed doughnuts, pickled pig lips, and ham steak? It seems pretty impossible without substitution.

>chances are the people crying about ingredients too hard to get werent going to cook anything in the first place
That's what I think too.

I'll make my caviar stuffed fish bowl this weekend and hopefully that'll kick things off a bit.

>>13681956
>vote
>contest
>vote
>competition
>I gotta WIN
What's it like being so bogged down by the rat-race mentality?

>>13681962
>I want a reasonable expectation that I'm going to enjoy what I cook
That's on you.

>time, money and how well it fits in with my normal grocery shopping
You're boring.

>>13681999
>not being boring = buying out of season fish and cooking it with ingredients that objectively don't pair with it

>>13681999
>That's on you.
'it's not my fault people don't like what i do. they should just like different things'
>You're boring.
i've been on this board 10 years and have entered multiple contests/challenges and posted my own OC frequently. I like things like this but they rarely work. you're making some stupid decisions if you want people to engage with the brief and the result, unfortunately, will be far more boring and ignominious than I could ever be.

>>13682009
Not gonna lie, I was excited when I saw the words "/ck/ challenge", but this one is pretty fucking poorly thought out.

>it’s another dumb cunt from redit tries to make a ck challenge thread
It won’t work stupid cunt. YOU FUCKING MAGGOT FUCK OFF BACK TO REDIT YOU ARE NOTHINGR.

>>13681984
doesn't need to be seasonal, it's just an example, theres tonnes of non-seasonal things.
but the calendar is good because it means people from around the globe can order things and have them arrive if they're required, even though there will be smaller turnouts for them, there would at the very least be a few entries.

it simply should be done as a competition, competitiveness is the only thing that would keep it alive and make people put more thought into what they're preparing.

what im reading online says corn syrups available in the UK, but maybe you're thinking of HFCS?

>>13682217
>order things and have them arrive if they're required
Yes. I'll gen up 12 months worth of ingredients and calendar it.

>competitiveness is the only thing that would keep it alive and make people put more thought into what they're preparing.
It also causes more butthurt and drama. I don't want to 'make' people do anything, this is more of a suggestion of one way to have fun in the kitchen with fellow coo/ck/s, camaraderie through shared struggle . Maybe using the name /ck/ challenge is too loaded?

>Corn syrup
Not in any supermarkets (incl. in the American import section that some have) and I've never seen it in EU import shops either. Will look again when I'm next out though just in case I've been missing it. We usually just use golden syrup if we need to moisten and sweeten things at the same time.

>>13682314
Kill yourself faggot. No one gives a shit about your boring idea.

>>13682487
I mean, I liked the thought, but the execution was crap. Better luck next time.

>>13682314
>butthurt and drama
i'm actually shocked you feel so strongly that loosely run, casual competition would be toxic.
by lacking a competitive aspect you're just guaranteeing that default state will be lukewarm at best.
I think any of the past drama was based around there being an longstanding ranking lasting a whole year as well as knocking people out of competing.
by just having a simple schedule that everyone can enter on a whim without some overarching leader-board there can be competition without a forced need to compete, and thus no punishment for skipping a week.
People would be able to simply see theres something going on with no knowledge of what is happening, say 'hey i have most of that' and pick up a missing ingredient at the store to enter.

here is the old scoring system below, with some examples
>Presentation: /5
basically just how fancy the plating is, haute cruisine vs slopposhit, with a regular meal somewhere in the middle
>Originality: /5
an apple pie is a 1, a double baked potato recipe adapted to use apples is a 5
>Appeal: /5
how much you personally want to eat it, this is an important one because dishes are meant for wide appeal, so the more anons you please the higher you score.
>Challenge Goals: /5
how closely the entry matched the challenge goals, if the goal was scones but you made dumplings don't expect to score highly
>Total: /20
all totals are then averaged out between those who voted and the winner is chosen at the end of the week

the old challenges were monthly and totaled the scores for each month, and forced people to drop out who were losing instead of allowing them to catch up which I think is bullshit
we could do a monthly tally if the super competitive people really want the e-points but it should stay being reset fairly often.

>>13682682
>I think any of the past drama was based around there being an longstanding ranking lasting a whole year as well as knocking people out of competing.
Maybe it's just that one vocal guy but I think people are upset at the high effort others went to and also at the "unfairness" of voting. No-competition default state would filter out some of the tryhards and make it less intimidating to enter for newbies.

With the old scoring it'll likely be the same set of people soring high all the times. Maybe we can have a weekly spotlight for a random entry? Picked by popular demand from the previous week but you can't feature 2 weeks in a row. Like a 15mins of fame sort of thing.

>>13683032
I don't think there is anything as 'unfairness of voting'
if you actually look at the entries and compare the results of the votes, they're fairly well representative of the foods themselves.

in round 4 of 2016 some dude got a 6.44/20 for making a garbage looking sandwich instead of cookies and had peanut butter smeared all over the side of the bowl
reminder that the minimum you can score is a 4 for straight 1's, indicating people scored him as 1 3 2 1 and 1 2 2 1 or something similar along those lines, and I think that was more than fair

>>13683073
Hmmm okay how about for next week I implement:

- Single difficulty level (has to use all RNG ingredients, has to be the focus of the dish, substitutions allowed but points will be subtracted, other ingredients allowed as support.)

- Weekly scoring for a chance to feature as OP picture on the following week's thread. No continuous features, so if you feature one week you won't be able to feature until the week after next. Or maybe only one feature a month if we have more than 5 participants.

- Scoring:

>Presentation: /5
>Originality: /5
>Appeal: /5

I will -0.2 at the end for each ingredient substitution

>Total: /15

- Calendar for the year

>>13683176
sounds a lot better already

how about “best meal you can make with $5 at the dollar store”? substitute local currency/poverty stores as needed based on local area

>>13681362
seems rather faggy

This thread is such a dumpster fire. OP is genuinely retarded.

>>13683211
He just seems ultra sensitive to criticism.

>>13683176
>has to use all RNG ingredients,
Fuck off with this shit you retard

>>13683193
Something like this seems good, maybe have a theme and a rough price point.
For example £10 must contain fish and veg, you could do themes by styles so £10 Oriental dish. Stops the randomizer giving us unicorn horn and asprin as 2 of the 5 ingredients and makes things more fun.

>>13683679
Or how about

Each week has a theme and that’s that. No bullshit constraints or mandatory ingredients. Just encourage people to cook

>>13684014
Honestly that would be fine too since it would be nice to you know see some more cooking on the board

lol this seems to be going about as expected...

I do like the dollar store type idea, would probably participate in something like that but aint nobody buying fucking caviar for a /ck/ thread thats destined to fail(and already has)

FINE. I give in, I'll update a calendar to include all the formats you guys want. You're a bunch of sourpusses

>>13683193
>>13683679
That's so boring though. That would just be normal do groceries and cook... but I guess I'll incorporate it into the calendar

>>13683211
>>13683441
>>13683583
Yes I am retarded fag, I'm just very invested in the RNG ingredients idea okay! :(

It's like everyone saying they wanna play a game, me saying "hey let's play hopscotch" and you guys say "no u make a game of skip rope instead." And when I insist I want to play hopscotch you say I'm senstive to criticism rather than starting your own game of skip rope.

>>13685255
I just got a jar of fake caviar for £2. Going easy mode because I don't feel like putting in the monetary invest in red snapper for you gays :(

This week's challenge is already decided but I guess next week I'll do a generic simple crowd pleaser

>>13685287
Look I ain't even trying to hate, I appreciate people who do these threads and have participated in the past. The thing is /ck/ is straight garbage these days, most people are poor and can't cook, and there will be trolls trying to kill the thread just for the lols, they will intentionally fuck up any judging system. It has to be cheap just to get anyone actually interested to participate, or else you'll be lucky to have 2 or 3 people. Not trying to burst your bubble just trying to save you some aggravation.

>>13681362
>deathly allergic to fish
Well I guess next week then.

>>13685287
>Oh so no one wants to use caviar and red snapper well fine, next week will just have to be generic and boring
Not necessarily, you're such a little bitch about it every time someone points out a valid criticism, you shouldn't be running shit.

instead of RNG it should be shitposter's choice. let's see...pineapple... pizza dough... hmmm tomato sauce mozarella... and ham. good luck boys >:)

>>13685436
Another great reason for why the rng ingredients idea is retarded

I might actually give this a shot tomorrow. Fuck the shitposters. This looks like fun.

>>13685790
Sure thing OP.

>>13685277
False equivalency. Hop scotch and skip rope are valid game types. A cooking competition with flavors that objectively don't pair is not valid.

>>13685790
<3

>>13681362
sounds more like a hell's kitchen punishment lunch than a mystery box challenge.

>>13685277
>>13685287
>FINE
>:(
You post like a fucking teenage girl who isn't getting her way because your oh so quirky random ingredient idea is rightly being shit on, and then you claim that a challenge that has actual thought put into it beyond
>lol RNG ingredients
would be boring because its not what you wanted, not because of whatever the fuck nonsense analogy you wrote.
I vote kys.

>>13681362
I'm probably not going to prepare this
broil/grill the snapper
remove a decent fillet for plating
top with caviar

separately, boil corn syrup until it reaches hard crack stage, mix in hot syrup whenever appropriate to get a spicy, sweet candy
pour into a thin layer and break apart, using a few shards as a garnish

chop spearmint and add as additional garnish

thoughts?

The rules and ingredient selection seem unnecessarily complex and unaccommodating. I suspect everyone will end up making "fish with hot sauce".

>>13681362
I like the idea but I don't want to use those ingredients so I'll pass this week. I'm having some fun clicking re-run and seeing what I get. Some are okay and some not so much. Some are just like five different seasonings but I didn't screencap those.

>>13681362
>Corn syrup
So Europeans can't participate?

>>13681547
Yeah he fucked up... Too bad I was looking forward to a new challenge.

Please OP you need to understand that the ingredient list shouldn't be totally random. Otherwise it would be more like a youtube secret milkshake video than an actual cooking competition.
Maybe choose two ingredients at random, two others chosen by the winner of the previous week, and one last chosen by a poster with a specific last digit in his post #?
I think that would allow to make actual tasty dish while still having some originality and surprise.

>>13686272
I already agreed I'll change it up for next week and subsequent weeks, why are you still so butthurt?

>>13686312
That sounds good! Your sugar shard idea makes me think that maybe savory creme brulee could work. A creamy thai seasoned fish mousse topped with a toasted sweet chilli sugar shell.

>>13687983
I'll post a challenge calender that includes everyone's idea sometime today.