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If historically, cooking has been perceived to be women’s work, why are most of the top chefs men?

>> No.13727341

>>13727331

Because it's annoyingly labor and intensive and nurturing, both which women are good at.

Women aren't the best at anything. But it's pretty standard to give them labor intensive busywork. That's not hard on their frail bodies that they have the possibility of enjoying.

>> No.13727346

Same old story: a field of work is disparaged as "women's work" until they elevate it to a profitable business model, then the men move in and chase the women out.

>> No.13727350

>>13727331
Men are better women than women.

>> No.13727355

>>13727350
Exactly. Trannies make the best wives.

>> No.13727367

>>13727355
Despite recent advances in healthcare, AIDS is still dangerous, anon

>> No.13727391

>>13727355
I know it's a funny joke to call women mentally ill and unstable, but then you go and get a literal mentally ill person as your """wife""".

>> No.13727407

>>13727341
I don't think labor intensive means what you think it means

>> No.13727675

>>13727331
because men can put the time into it.
also we're:
more rational
better at cooperating
can lead
function independantly
have direction
more honest
more upfront
not as vindictive
dont complain as much
dont bitch as much

>> No.13727678

>>13727331
unironically sexism

>> No.13727680

>>13727675
Then why do chefs tend to be shrill, selfish, degenerate drug addicts? They're the least masculine men in the world, including masseuses.

>> No.13727710

>>13727680
Chefs, cooks, and kitchen workers may be high strung druggies, but they need to be able to handle intense pressure that women are often not emotionally stable enough to handle. Working in a kitchen can be tough physically for women, too, though not impossible. But that extra difficulty handling the physical demand wears stress tolerance down to an even lower threshold.

>> No.13727714

chefs are often literally psychopaths
like CEOS, lawyers, TV talking heads, popos

>> No.13727716
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13727716

psychopaths

>> No.13727717

>>13727710
I don't think you've met many women. You know any women raising three kids by themselves? I know a few, and they're probably tougher than you'll ever be.

>> No.13727725

>>13727717
What does that have to do with working in a professional kitchen?

>> No.13727728

>>13727716
>clergy person
(((hmmm....)))

>> No.13727730

>>13727716
>accountant
Guess I'm not a psychopath, then.

>> No.13727732

>>13727728
catholic pederasts
also that echo meme is cringe

>> No.13727737

>>13727725
So you haven't met many children, either. You really need to stop pretending you understand the world.

>> No.13727738

>>13727732
no it's not it just hits to close to home for you

>> No.13727804

>>13727331
Women are great at taking care of family (traditional women) so they can cook whatever their children and husbands want. However they stop at that while men cook to sell his services.

>> No.13727890

>>13727331
Cooking at home has been women's work.
Operating a professional kitchen that has to turn a profit to survive has always been a man's game.

>> No.13727891

>>13727350
This

>> No.13727901

>>13727680
Because you don't lose faith in humanity faster than you do watching adults fuck up something as basic as feeding themselves.

I had a customer complain that the beef ribs she ordered weren't pork. She fucking said the word beef when she ordered them, I took the damn order. Also men bending our cutlery for no reason. Why?

>> No.13727959

>>13727901
yeah I'm sure chefs HATE to see people pay them for food and it drives them to be histrionic she-men. that must be it

>> No.13728020

>>13727331
Many celeb chefs were men back several centuries ago. Fancy cookery was done by men, while the more down-to-earth day-by-day stuff was a woman's job.

>> No.13728033

>>13727331
>If historically, cooking has been perceived to be women’s work
Has it? Seems like a very modern thing.

>> No.13728054

>>13727331
Top chefs have always been men. Whenever a cook is mentioned in any roman text it's always a man. Medieval cookbooks are all written by men. The same pattern carries on through the renaissance and beyond. Basic cooking is women's work, outstanding cooking is men's work.

>> No.13728063

>>13728033
Uh, no? You can find jokes about women staying in the kitchen in ancient Roman plays, it's been the norm since before recorded history.

>> No.13728068

>>13727331
Ignorant idiots
HOME cooking was historical a women domain but commercial cooking was a business and thus only for males
Cooking was never perceived to be only women’s work, it was caring about the house and cooking was a part of it
But professional chefs were nearly always males

>> No.13728071

>>13728054
Paid employment has always been men's work, historically. That is all it really comes down to.

>> No.13728082

>>13728063
I mean as actual work. Not doing it for free, haha.

>> No.13728091

>>13727331
>If historically, cooking has been perceived to be women’s work
this is blatantly untrue

>> No.13728128

>>13727716
That chart is absolutely false
Doctors and nurses are the most psychopathic people on the planet, especially in America.

>> No.13728137

>>13727716
>nurses
>2nd lowest rate of psychopathy

>> No.13728146

>>13727331
>If, historically, cooking has been perceived to be women’s work, why are most of the top chefs men?
ftfy

>> No.13728155

>>13728128
Maybe only in America. The few times I've been to hospital, nurses have been my only comfort.

>> No.13728180

>>13728091
magazine ads in the 1950s really fucked our shit up

So many stereotypes all invented to sell shit to boomers' parents, echoed through every successive media revolution to sell more shit to those boomer kids who grew up on it

>> No.13728192

I dont know.
Should i be super edgy for the lols
Should i try to justify my edge with faulty science i pulled out my ass
Or should i actually go against the grain and not be edgy

>> No.13728199

>>13727959
Pay for food, eat most of it and then say it was inedible and demand a refund, you mean.

Abuse the wait staff, you mean.

Destroy property, you mean.

>> No.13728309

>>13728192
Saying something that offends your particular sensibilities != edgy

>> No.13728314

>>13727331
Because there’s a distinct difference between ‘cooking’ and ‘being a chef’, fucking retard.

>> No.13728316

>>13727346
Pretty much this.

>> No.13728355

>>13728068
I c

>> No.13728400

>>13728054
>Medieval cookbooks are all written by men.
Interestingly, after the proliferation of mass printing, women started writing cookbooks for print, as a means to augment a household's budget (given that employment for women was scarce at best). And by the 19th century, you also have cookbooks written by a rich homestead's head maid (though they tend to be general housekeeping books with a cooking and recipe section).

>>13728180
Yeah, the ad industry is guilty of perpetuating many idiocies, though it's not limted just to the '50s.

>> No.13728471

>>13728068
it was also one of the lowest of low class occupations. Being a cook is glamorized currently because of television but its always been shit work

>> No.13728726

>>13727737
Lots of women make it as nannies, single mothers, and general caretakers, yes. Is it possible, just possible, that's a woman's strength? And is it possible that kitchen work is a completely different set of skills and pressures? Are you really incapable of seeing any difference in raising kids and working in a kitchen? Get your head checked.

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>>13727331
Because women should not be in the workforce and everyone knows it deep down

>> No.13728891

>>13728199
>you mean
sorry I shouldn't have tried to counter your pity party. people definitely fail to feed themselves and it makes smart stable people become unhinged.

>> No.13728967

>>13727678
You're not on tumblr, Karen.

>> No.13728974

>>13728192
You should go back to tumblr, roastie.

>> No.13729028

>>13727716
I have met dozens of nurses in my life and i have not met a single one that wasn't a genuine fucking psycho.

>> No.13729049

>>13727675
Right

What does that have to do with cooking?

>> No.13729211

>>13728726
you mustn't have set foot in a kitchen at all because I can tell you that it is a LOT like babysitting or kindergarten. Chefs are literally brainlets

>> No.13729216

>>13727355
>Exactly. Trannies make the best wives.
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