/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Cappuccino + Pandoro is a match made in heaven

how many cuppa joe do you drink a day /ctg/?
>2

>>13929402
one 16oz or like 2 or 3, sometimes 4 out of my moka. I like one in the morning, one at noon, and sometimes one in the afternoon. I don't do this every day though.

>>13929402
On a workday I'll have one in the morning, usually a second mid-morning or early afternoon, and sometimes a third when I get home. On weekends I'll have two to four depending on how bored I am.

I've started putting cinnamon in my milk right before using the steam wand, it's great

Just a cuppa peruvian.

>>13929375
Is this a macchiato?

>>13929957
it's clearly a long black

>>13929402
1 or 2 12/16oz cups

>>13929375
I drink regular coffee with milk almost every day, 1 mug. Usually in the morning to get some energy. I can't say I like it, I don't drink it for taste.
But what I do like is cappuccino. I don't drink it very often, but when I'm chilling or I'm at a café, this is the best option.

>>13929402
Usually just one in the morning, but I have espresso before I uber after my other job in the afternoon.

Anons, I just made some coffee on my moka pot after a while without using it, and there's a lot left, do anyone have idea what to do with the amount that's left, about 300-400ml I think?

I was thinking of making some coffee gelatin, I would make some coffee ice cubes, but its kind of cold right now.

>>13931018
Gelatin sounds like a good idea

What do you use for water? Distilled, filtered, tap?

>>13931426
Tap, sometimes distilled

>>13931426
Tap run through a berkey filter. I've got a hardness test kit here but I cbf. I'll use it and get dialed in at some point.

>>13931426
Distilled with epsom salt and baking soda added

>>13931426
>Distilled
?????

>>13932438
what are you confused about

>>13932472
Why the fuck would you ever use distilled water to brew

>>13932478
distilled water + added minerals

>>13932503
Then it's not distilled water anymore retard

>>13931426
I use reverse osmosis and add enough tap water to get around 150ppm.

>>13932649
i'm aware, i'm just assuming the first guy who mentioned distilled water didn't really know what he was talking about. Because I am not a reactionary, I chose to address this in a noncombative manner rather than call some anonymous poster on an internet message board a retard.

For years I drank coffee black every day but I've gone mad and bought $60 in Monin syrups.

Whenever i use a machinetta for my coffee it turns out extra bitter but when i use my press for the same grains it turns out a lot milder. Is there anything I'm doing wrong with the machinetta or is it just how things be?

>>13932649
You're a dipshit.

https://baristahustle.com/blog/diy-water-recipes-redux/

Why the fuck wouldn't you start with as neutral of a base as humanly possible, when you're trying to create an exact solution?

>>13931274
>>13931018
if you do gelatin, add some other thing like milk or cream. I put gelatin in a black coffee once and when I took it out of the fridge and tasted it it was hideous. A good old black coffee wasted, I'm still sad when I remember about it.

>>13932875
Are you retarded or just illiterate? Distilled water is no longer distilled water once you add minerals to it. Therefore you cannot call your mineral blend water "distilled water" because it's not fucking distilled water anymore you goddamn moron. I swear /ctg/ somehow always manages to attract the most cretinous fucking troglodytes on this entire shithole of a board. Somehow the worst of the worst always find their way here. Get bent faggot.

calling out the italianito who was here yesterday balking at the cold water 12 to 15 minute brew time to ask if he has tried it

>>13933031
>>13931449
>>13931700
>>13932503

One guy mentions using straight distilled and you lose your mind. Everyone else clearly noted that they were supplementing distilled. You're a moron. Also don't act like there's no merit in brewing with distilled every once in a while. You can suffer through a cup of shitty coffee if it will give you a reference point for your tap water. Learn how to train your taste.

beans

So I ended up buying the Felicita Incline smart scale and it functions perfectly for pourovers. The one thing I want to know is if anyone actually uses that awful bluetooth app it comes with. And why on earth do they even put bluetooth on this shit when the scale would be better without that anyway.

>>13932848
>$60 in Monin syrups.
so you bought 4/5 bottles? That's smalltime, try buying that many bottles of Amoretti

>>13933361
I guess having 4 liters of syrup just seemed a bit excessive to me but there's levels to this shit

>>13933107
inb4

>why would you roast so dark

Looks good!

>>13933330
If you're lucky the SE Profiler app will support it eventually.

>>13933376
>but there's levels to this shit
Yeah I suppose so

>>13929375
I pour muself a mug full of milk heat it up in the micro add some instant and sugar, now that's some real mans coffee

>>13933392
Dude wtf this is a coffee thread not a charcoal thread. I take my green beans out of the freezer and let them sit at room temp for like 15 minutes and then put them back in, anything hotter than that is disgusting dark roast.

>>13933415
>microwave
>milk
>instant sugar
10/10 Chef

>>13933436
You need to gently warm them up between your thighs, first thing in the morning. During the golden hour if you can manage.

>>13931018
I’ve started putting it in an insulated keep cup so I have coffee later in the day

>>13933628
>insulated keep cup
I'd need that

I want to get a new grinder, bros. I have an encore and want a manual grinder. What do you guys recommend?

Dalgona nigger coffee question.

I’m trying figure out how improve that thing working on the emulsion like it was a coffee “mousse” and I was wondering if I use milk with the instant coffee and sugar, instead of water, would the emulsion thicken the same way or is water necessary?

>>13934295
It’s not an emulsion, it’s a foam. You are stabilizing air bubbles in a thick coffee ‘syrup’. I don’t know what change milk would make, if any, given that there’s a negligible amount of liquid, just enough to dissolve the coffee and sugar.

>>13934092
I've been running beans over with my forklift at work....does a nice job.

>>13934092
Kinu is kino.

>>13934092
Mortar and pestle

>>13934092
Teeth

>>13934092
pepper grinder

>>13934092
I lay the beans down on my table in a pile and then wind up really high and slap them with my nuts as hard as I can a few good times until they are the right consistency

How do I get a handsome daffy coffee autist bf?

Bump

>>13935011
him and that jewish girl yall like should get together and look like a couple in their 60s

I bought some Brazilian COE top lot and I have to say, it's really fucking good.

>>13935733
>look up prices
>$20/pound beans
Ergh. Is it actually worth it?

Condensed milk + vanilla
are these the greatest ingredients one could add to a coffee? Trying to find a SMOOOOOTH iced coffee recipe, if I was rich enough i'd stock my fridge with those 250ml cans that cost £2 a pop but it turns out i'm not

>>13935896
Not if you then dump milk and sugar into it like most of the retards in this thread apparently do.

>>13931426
Glorious Yorkshire water straight from the tap

>>13935675
> jewish girl

? who

>>13935918
>are these the greatest ingredients one could add to a coffee
There's one greater: nothing.

coffee masterrace reporting in

>>13936005
this bitch

How bad are these vacuum packs? Good enough for moka or should I get something else?

>>13929375
>Capachino edition. This thread is for all coffee related discussion and inquiries.
I think you are borrowing some spelling from the Capuchin monkeys.

>>13933415
>I pour muself a mug full of milk heat it up in the micro add some instant and sugar, now that's some real mans coffee
This works with Cafe Bustelo, Magallia D'oro and other powdered espresso powders. It's solid.
I like the Nescafe mexican "cafe de olla" which has hints of orange, cinnamon, and maybe almonds, but it works in a mug of milk too.

>order some good coffee
>put it in a closed jar
>first day, tastes amazing
>second day, tastes like warm water and caffeine
what did i do wrong?

>>13936485
>How bad are these vacuum packs? Good enough for moka or should I get something else?
There are some coffees that are really traditional that use the type of coffee beans originally from the european side of the world, the robusta, which does add more foam and disctinct bitterness. At some point in history, people figured out 100% arabica was maybe better but certainly less bitter.
Those italian brands do have some traditional formula that blends the two bean types, so if that inferior bean is desired, just know some other people will consider it trickery with a lower cost bean. That's the piece of info to know.
The hispanic brands don't have any mixes, just arabica, so you might start there before the Italian ones if you are not used to their specific flavors now ignored by the rest of the world.
There's a lot of beans good enough for moka for most people, but understand that your water affects the taste in a big way, as does freshly grinding the beans yourself. Even if you use the store to grind them for you before bringing it a whole bean purchase is better in that way. A lot of places are closed, but you can also get coffee roasting places to ship you premium beans ground to order prior to shipping to you, specific the grind size and method you will brew it.

>>13936531
>>13936485
I've had that one, but was meh, but I did love the forte which is 70% robusta. You either like robusta or don't, and even them quality control between brands is iffy.
>Hispanic brands are arabica only
This is very false. Pilon is very robusta; shitty at that. Know if any coffee says its 100% coffee, but does not mention arabica, it has robusta. The brick Hispanic coffees I will shill for is cafe llave and sello rojo; bustelo is only good for cubanos in my shit opinion. Also don't expect to be dazzled by brick coffee.

>>13936516
Was it in bean form? Good coffee and pre-ground are almost mutually exclusive. Ground beans lose flavour rapidly, no matter what you do, because the surface area and thus chemical reactivity is so large.

>>13936573
no, they sent it pre ground. should i get a cheap grinder then?

>>13936617
Absolutely. You can get a perfectly fine manual grinder for 20 bucks or less. Also, use cheap beans while you experiment on how finely ground you want your beans to be.

>>13936648
WHATS THE BEST CHEAP GRINDER ARE THE HARIO ONES GOOD???

>>13934331
Thanks

>>13936648

Please quit telling people to waste their money.

>>13936699

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLEBfom0mhM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn9OuRl1F3k

Roommate accidentally my French press, and he got me an aero press to replace it. Anyone tried this before? It’s more of an espresso maker, so I’ve been making americanos with it. Usually I do French press and have a few cups.

What's a good grinder for a Cafelat Robot?

>>13936972
They're not the same at all and it does not make espresso. I love Aeropress coffee but it's very small and only holds 200 ml of water

>>13937004
Hand? Kinu, Helor, or Apollo Bplus.

been fucking around with some natural gesha on the kalita wave. i paid 40 dollars for 4oz (this is a competition winning varietal - i've heard low cost varietals can be very hit or miss and smaller roasters don't often have enough buying power to buy enough to dial in their roast).
this stuff is really good, might make it a point to buy a bag every year or so. tastes kind of like a blend of sweet tea and jamaica. i fucked with the grind just to see the impact of it and a tighter grind tasted like strawberry lemonade, coarser like underripe mango. still think the first cup i brewed with the middle grind was the best. have enough for two more kalita brews and a cupping style brew

>>13937037
Yeah, I prefer the French press but I don’t think he knew the difference. Oh well, it makes a pretty good cup.

>>13936904
THANKS really good video although it begs a few questions. At what level are you better off with electric? At what level of grinder does the freshness of recently ground beans in a mediocre grinder offset the size consistency of having them pre-ground with an excellent grinder (for pour over)?

>>13936904
cant help but feeling that those videos are just a hipster reflection of faggotry. a grain mill, something that turns wheat into flour costs about 300 dollars, it comes with a motor and turns wheat grains into flour dust and will outlast any coffee grinder you get by far and it isn't that costly when you compare to coffee grinders, hand cranked at 200 dollars or 300 dollars.

>>13937037
aeropress faux espresso can easily make drinks resembling iced lattes and iced americanos. It can't really hold up at cappucino espresso:milk ratios though

>>13937125
around $100 you can decide between a baratza encore (electric) for ease of use or the hand grinder he picks in the video for slightly higher quality.
around $100-250 manuals will always be more bang for your buck. if you have more than that to spend maybe consider electric.

>>13937129
ill add to this, that no commercial environment would spend that kind of money on grinders. i am getting the feeling that this is the coffee version of an audiophile

>>13937294
holy shit why does every coffee thread get infested with people who not only aren't into specialty coffee, but who don't care to learn about it.

>>13937129
Buy a couple at different price points and compare. There's a clear, noticeable difference. Its nothing like claiming silver plated 99% ofc just sounds a bit WARMER than normal 99% ofc. You're trying to mill something to as fine of a tolerance as possible, to extract evenly, for as long as possible. You don't want any slip whatsoever, or drift off your set point. There's a bit more mechanical engineering than just "haha burrs go brrrrrrrrr". Burrs need to be aligned to a certain tolerance, otherwise your expensive milled steel is off kilter and producing two different consistencies depending on which side of the burr gets the bean.

>>13937294
You know one of the most popular cafe grinders is the mythos one right?

https://prima-coffee.com/equipment/nuova-simonelli/ami-722108

>>13937303
being into coffee does not mean being into the cocksucking faggotry of brands and gear over the product itself. you're drinking the koolaid, the entire point of burr grinders is that all the pieces are basically the same size, the variation is meaningless

>>13937303
And who assert that they know shit.

>>13937125
People on homebarista claim the m47s go blow for blow with ~$2000 electrics. People on homebarista are usually full of shit, so who knows. I make great espresso with my m47p, and I don't clean it between going from espresso to v60, so I really don't give a shit about a few fines in my coarser grinds. I've been debating just getting a 12set kruve sifter instead of the pourover burrs.

>>13937336
>mythos
the website you sent had no price, i found the price to be close to 700 on another website, if thats wrong let me know.
whats wrong with pic related? 300 bucks, and its still priced under some of those hand cranked ones. coffee shops I go to use them all over the place, all day long and they pull hundreds of shots a day

>>13937362
https://www.home-barista.com/grinders/why-is-rancilio-rocky-so-unpopular-here-t9557.html

https://baristaequip.com/products/victoria-arduino-mythos-one-coffee-grinder


If you find a mythos one for $700, I'd buy it.

>>13937373
that entire fucking thread of home brewers saying the rancilio which has been for at least three years now in continuous use pulling hundreds (at least 500) of shots PER DAY in a commercial setting with a three group head rancilio. surely these are people that know more about it

Recently started drinking coffee, got some questions.

1. What's the best way to brew coffee for two people in the morning? I've been using an aeropress twice in a row but it doesn't seem worthwhile.

2. How do you identify tastes in coffee? I've three bags of beans and one of them has this flavour that I've been looking for but I don't know how to describe it.

>>13937585
>Aeropress released a small travel size model when the original is perfectly portable
>didn't release a larger capacity model
I'm still mad

>>13937610
What's your recipe, anon? Do you think the different recipes actually change the flavour much?

>>13937415
Thats the first thread that popped up when I searched rancillo rocky homebarista. Seems like the consensus is the grind isn't that good and theres better value for just a bit more. That was 10 years ago. Why do you think the $10 an hour wagies have any choice in what their shitty employer buys, and why that shitty employers choice is any indication of quality? I doubt the guy compared machines side by side before dropping $1000 on 3 of em.

Is it normal to be feeling the effects of coffee 2 days after consumption? It's making my flu symptoms worse

>>13937650
because this shit you're talking about is meaningless, its voodoo. You can't seriously claim the difference in one grind to the next is noticeable enough to justify that kind of money, the coffee is ground by burrs, the difference in texture is insignificant, its all a gimick, will coffee grinding done with a micro processor turn out any different than a hand grind one? no it won't because that is the principle of burr grinders. if I spent 3000 bucks on that grinder you showed me, id guarantee it to everyone that it produced much better coffee than yours is so inferior because you're grinding it with a 30 buck grinder. its nothing short of a peter contest of keeping up with the joneses

>>13937718
$1 cigars are horrible when you smoke $20 sticks all day. Maybe not so bad if you smoke off brand cigarettes.

What grinders have you tried to come to this conclusion?

>>13937640
I use a 60g/L ratio and ~230 ml in the aeropress which is pretty much maxed out. Inverted method with 4 minute infusion.

>>13937735
>What grinders have you tried to come to this conclusion?
what kind of question is that? do you have a few $1000+ grinders at home? of course that a twingo isnt the same as a ferrari testarossa but yet, they both get you from A to B, that's my point. Unless you have several of those thousand dollars plus grinders at home, you literally can't argue that X grinder is better than Y grinder, no empirical experience which is the standard you just applied to me with that ridiculous question. this is attitude from you and people on that forum is snobbery, just a surrogate activity to play the power process. I love coffee, I love the process of getting my cup brewed that is what brings me pleasure. of course there is a hierarchy in products and brew methods but I would almost guarantee you that the incremental advantages of any product start to be much much lower after a certain price point, and when it comes to a fucking grinder, I would just about bet you that the differences between a $400 grinder and a $1000 aren't that spectacular, but if you want to spend that kind of money you go right ahead.

Got a kalita wave this week and I'm starting to think v60 is just a big reddit meme. especially since championship winning baristas are using waves in competition, and it seems like it's really popular in high end shops as well

>>13937585
It depends on how much those two people want to drink but either a chemex or V60/Kalita/Melitta pourover cone. The chemex is much larger but I don't really like it for a few reasons.

>>13938048
Based but those beans are burnt and uneven as shit so you're on thin ice

>>13937585
Water off the boil for 1 minute, inverted with 40g ground beans, add just enough water to saturate, completely stir, wait 30 seconds, pour water to capacity, stir around 5 seconds, wait 30 seconds, plunge 30 seconds.

Add water to concentrated cup, divide in 2 and top off.

>>13938071
>The chemex is much larger but I don't really like it for a few reasons.
I'm all ears, I was thinking about picking one up.

>>13937833
>>13938088
Thanks anons!

>>13938111
It's all thin glass so it doesn't hold heat as well and since it's so large it creates more surface area over which the coffee can lose a lot of heat during the brewing process. You would also have to separately preheat the mugs that you want to use before brewing. I always brew with a V60 straight into my mug and it makes it simpler to preheat. Also I really just don't like things that are glass in general because I feel like I'm going to break them.

>>13938080
thats just a pic i found online anon

>>13938276
Makes a lot of sense. Looks awesome, but temperature and that amount of glass are legitimate concerns.

>>13938068
Do you think there's that much difference? I always thought the hario meme was largely in part because it's cheap and fairly ubiquitous as far as pour over goes.

>>13938048
Whole lotta words for

> I don't know shit

Is there a perfect ratio of water and coffee? Different bags of coffee I’ve had give different suggestions.

One bag says 2 tablespoons of coffee per 6 fl oz of water. Another says 1 tablespoon for every 6 fl oz. Another says 1 tablespoon per 8 fl oz of water, and another says 2 tablespoons per 8 fl oz of water.

8 fluid ounces (fl oz) is 236.59 mL
1 tablespoon is 15 mL

>>13938996
This is for a standard drip coffee maker btw

>>13938996
65 grams per liter

>>13937129
>>13937294
You're missing the point of coffee grinders. It's not about how fine it can grind. It's about how evenly it grinds. If you could produce all of one particle size that would be ideal.

The most popular shop grinder is the EK43 which is around 3k CAD. The mythos and the peak are the most popular espresso grinders, and are about the same cost.

As someone who is lucky enough to have an ek43 I paid 500 bucks for, and access to a variety of other grinders, I can say that the difference is large from low to high end. I can also say that home users are fine with a breville smart grinder pro or the like, for around 200.

>>13939092
He could also come to this conclusion by simply sifting his hario skerton grounds compared to something decent.

bros im going to the coffee zone tomorrow

gonna make an espresso and an entire pourover. I'm pumped

>>13929375
Maxwell House and Irish whiskey

What does /ck/ think about instant coffee? The first time I tried instant coffee (NesCafe Gold) it wasn't so bad. I cheaped out last week and got me some Nescafe Clasico just to taste the difference and this shit is absolutely rancid and unbearable even when I add milk and sugar to it. In the time between me downgrading from Gold to Clasico my coffee experience leveled up and I learned how to brew using a french press. It is honestly the best coffee I have ever drank, even better than stuff brewed using a Clover machine. It felt like this experience woke my tastebuds up to become intolerant of bad coffee. I've seen people recommend Folgers as their brand of choice for instant coffee so I will be trying that next but I'm tempering my expectations.

>>13938996
> 1 tablespoon is 15 mL

Whoops meant 1 tablespoon = 15 grams

>>13939374
Shut up

I just french press this every day, black of course.

>>13939704
I think a tablespoon is more like 5 grams of coffee..?

>>13939036
Sorry for being a dumb americunt who was raised on our shitty American customary units, but is that 2 tablespoons of coffee to 6 fluid ounces?

I just wanna know the perfect brew is for a single cup of coffee, since I’m the only one who drinks coffee in my house

>>13940026
65 grams per liter

>>13929375
whats the best way to make coffee to have when you're smoking cigs?

>>13940136
Who drinks that much in one sitting?

>>13940151
Are you retarded?

>>13940146
french pressed and black

>>13939797
Huh?

>>13940389
I said shut up you freaking dork

>>13940434
I don't understand. Why are you upset, anon?

>>13940465
I don't owe you an explanation

>>13940507
Mayhaps you are an ardent Nescafe Clasico fan?

>>13940026
>I just wanna know the perfect brew is for a single cup of coffee
They suggest weighting your beans if you want to be consistent. Using volumetric measurements for non-liquids is very inconsistent.
I googled it once and 1 Tbsp of coffee beans seems to vary between 4 to 7 g.
A litre is a bit under 34 oz.
You can do the rest of the math yourself.

>>13937585
Bodum plunger. Hario grinder on the coffee beans. Boil water in the kettle while grinding.

For me, it's cold brew

>>13940920
based, have this too

What are you drinking?

>>13941049
Based

>>13941453
nescafe instant

>>13940246
Maybe I am since I only drink 240 mL of coffee a day.

>>13941796
A liter is 1000 mL. Divide that by 4 and its 250 mL. 65 divided by 4 is 16.25. So 16.25 grams of coffee for every 250 mL of water. If 5 grams equals one tablespoon, and if 240 mL equals 8 fluid ounces then.... Thats roughly 3.25 tablespoons(16.25 grams) per 8.454 fluid ounces(250 mL) of water

>>13941816
Or as said here >>13940613
A tablespoon can be anywhere between 4 to 7 grams. So divide 16.25 by 7 and its around 2.32 tablespoons per 8.454 fluid ounces of water.

So roughly its two tablespoons of coffee per cup of water.

I've noticed that chronic coffee intake, even at just 1-2 cups a day, kills my libido. I distinctly remember back when I started drinking coffee it actually made me horny and gave me boners, but now I kind of have the reverse effect. After googling I found out about "stim dick", but it seems to mainly happen from things like adderall or ritalin.

Anyone else?

>>13941453
This roasted just past the start of first crack

15.56g of that columbian monteblanco purple cat I roasted up. Shits fucking phenomenal. Snagged the last 5 lbs the guy had :(

>>13942863
Looks good man. What's your espresso setup look like? What's the shot taste like?

>>13941453
>>13942388
>>13942863
Sounds good, would drink.

>>13942930
kinu m47p and a flair signature + pressure gauge. Deep berry flavor, little plum in the background, rich rich cherry. Very "thick" finish, caramel on the lingering finish. I'll keep dialing in the grind and roast. VERY happy with it.

>>13943647
what do you use to roast the beans? thinking about getting a roaster with my trumpbucks. and what sort of glassware is that in the pic? all in all looks very nice

>>13943775
Cheap plastic food service rocks glass. I'll probably buy the stupid new kruve espresso glasses when they start shipping. I wired an arduino into a popcorn popper to roast. I've posted it a few times so people are probably tired of the same pic.


https://www.instructables.com/id/Arduino-controlled-DIY-Coffee-Roaster/

>>13941119
One day, hand-lever espresso machine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYC0GXJj2gQ

>>13943827
inconceivably based

Do I have to use their filters? Is this really worth it? I like that there's nothing but boro.

Why is there a piece of wood around it?...

>>13938048
Based, coffee elitists dont give a shit about value. They only want a dick measuring contest of "oh look at how much money I spent to tell you your opinion is shit." Its fucking retarded

>>13945439
>thinks aeropress is the peak of brewing

fuckouttahere

>>13936972
Aeropress gud

try 30g coarse ground coffee in with 100g water, top with 120g water once pressed

>>13945437
So you can handle the glass without burning yourself. The top half gets hot the moment you begin pouring hot water.

>>13945502
Put on your glasses and try again

>>13945437
hot glass is hot

Went to my local natural foods store and bought their store brand coffee on a whim, hope it's not terrible

>>13929402
5

I'm the type that when I drink a quality product, I want it as unadultured as I can have it. What's some good quality coffee that I can just brew and drink black and enjoy?

>>13937585
>1. What's the best way to brew coffee for two people in the morning?
Ask your boyfriend if he likes drip or frenchpress

>>13945639
Anything more expensive than some extruded plastic from a frisbee company is just a dick measuring contest on how much money you can spend.

just had 6 cups of coffee, gonna try and loop around until tomorrow night since I woke up late today

I remember there being a San Diego anon in here. What roastery do you get your beans from?

can anyone point me to a good 1lb container with an airtight seal that's not made in china?

>>13946181
Mason jar and shove a recycled one way valve into the lid. I'll probably go back and drill some metal lids precisely at some point, but a protip for now. Mayo jar lids have the same threading as canning jars. Save em, organize your coffee, organize your fridge.

Pic related. Scratched an lb of brazilian ruby semi washed, broke the vac seal. Jarred up for imminent roasting.

>>13946270
fuk

>>13945925
Not him, but there used to be a place called industrial grind that roasted beans in North Park. I just get regular coffee since I've moved out of that neighborhood.

>>13946270
interesting

does coffee time general have a favorite ripoff chemex? Must be borosilicate. I want to get into the pourover meme but like $40 for $2 worth of boro is outrageous.

>>13946286
I just bought some bags specifically to cut the valves out of. Works real well. Plastic lids work perfectly but you can snap them if you're not careful. Metal is probably the way to go but mason jar rings eventually rust, so make sure you dedicate out a few for dry use only. There's probably some stainless steel ones you can get, but 99% sure they'll be out of china which defeats the whole point.

I don't care where it's from. I don't care where the water came from or the PH, better off not knowing anyways trust me. There is only one way to drink coffee, and that is black. If you add anything to the water but coffee grinds, you are bluepilled and cringe, probably a weak hipster beta who wants his $50 cappuccino. But you see me, I was born with thick skin.

>was trying to limit myself to one cuppa per day
>Hario V60 arrived
>have been having at least 3 cups a day because it tastes so good now
what have I done

>look up Kalita
>both the brewer and the filters more expensive despite the end product being slightly worse than V60
>only plus is that it's more forgiving towards pouring mistakes

Why?

>>13946490
What beans are you using?

>>13945800
It's for my girlfriend who passes by in the morning.
I don't have a temperature controlled or gooseneck kettle so I'm not sure what I can use.

>>13946799
Medium roast ones from Kokoda I bought at the local grocer

>>13946271
does that work? i thought you didnt have to store green coffee like that

>>13929402
I try not to drink more than 2 but I'd say 2 is more the average.

What is the best roast? Light, medium, dark, french or italian?

>>13942330
Big If true

>>13946494
it's better at extracting fruity/jammy notes from coffee. anything like that I will brew on kalita. it's also better for brewing overroasted beans

What's the opinion on percolators around here?

Bought a used gaggia baby for $100, did I do good espresso bros?

>>13947052
Do you think theres a detriment to storing an active lb like that?

>>13948096
If its used, theres no warranty. If theres no warranty, you can mod the fuck out of it.

>>13948419
>detriment
Nope just curious

>>13948479
Accidentally tore a bag I had vacuum sealed, grabbed an available jar to transplant into. Easier to just add that lb into my active roasting stash than to dig out the sealer again.

>>13929375
Spilled my coffee all over myself, ruined my only good pants and ruined my entire fucking morning.

What's a good recommendation for an espresso grinder for use with a Gaggia Classic Pro? I have a Smart Grinder pro I found on TJMaxx for a steal that I use for my pourovers and aeropress but that's no good fro espresso.
The Baratza Sette 270 looks good but I've seen it has reliability issues.

>>13948647
You want to go cheap you're looking at a hand grinder. You want to go (relatively) expensive, people really like the niche zero.

>>13948479
Green coffee degrades with time/exposure as well. Top tier roasters ship in refrigerated containers and then vacuum seal and freeze their green coffee.

>>13948647
It's actually very good for espresso. Why would you think otherwise? Pic related - the breville grinder here is the smart grinder pro

>>13943827
Any recent logs? Did you get the noise cleared up some more?

Here's one from my last batch. I've found that a 0.5s sampling interval and a 20s ROR interval work really well to give me a good picture of my ROR without the noise from my setup getting in the way. I think that you can reduce some of the noise (at least the kind I get) by doing a little extra wiring on the thermocouple breakout board. But I'm too lazy right now.

Anyone got a good "cheap" coffee I could buy online? Should I just look for some sales, I'd like to buy a 1lb bag or so from someone good, but I don't want to break the bank.

what Espresso beans brands have you tried?

Intelligensia, Counter Culture, some locally roasted brands, PTs.
Want to try Onyx, not sure what good others are out there.

>>13949080
I changed a bunch of shit in the code and never bothered flashing it. I guess I can do that today, its fairly decent outside. Check back tonight.

>>13949112
ritual does seasonal espresso beans that are usually pretty good

>>13929402
3-6 depending if I workout that day I have a very high caffeine tolerance stemming from abusing pre workouts in my early 20's plus I just love the taste of coffee.

>>13949327
6 cups? How much g do you put there?

Is anyone here enough of an autist to have a Decent DE1?

>>13949427
Theres one guy, but he wastes his time making espresso gin and tonics for some reason.

>>13949080
Here's a 22.5% DTR batch of that same coffee I just roasted. Use 15s for the ROR interval, and it was bumpier, but still very usable. Been a while since I've gone this dark (not that it's really that dark, but I typically only drink very light roasts for filter), but I wanted to see how this coffee did with the Rao recommended DTR range.

>>13948939
After some more research, I've decided to go with a ROK manual grinder since it's comparable to a $700 Ceado

>>13949662
If I get to roast the brazilian up tomorrow I'm going to start with my fan at 98% and go back to shaking to see how that affects my trapped heat. Seems like I'm taking a bit of time to get up to temp, which may not be too bad since I'm primarily roasting for espresso. Changed some aartisanQ_pid filter values, I guess I can dive a bit deeper into actual artisan in the hopes of cleaning the graph up. That's all secondary to taste, and I've enjoyed everything I've roasted so far, so I'm not too concerned right now.

100g of that same columbian with a lower top temp than last time. I'll post beanshots in a bit.

>>13949664
Plastic gears in that. Buyer beware.

>>13949664
Why? You already have an excellent electric grinder that is particularly good in the espresso range. Why waste your money on a new grinder?

>>13949832
Some wild spikes in ET on that graph, any idea what's causing that?

I don't have to shake or do anything for my popper, and with 100g batches I get really good movement throughout. What's the bean movement look like for you?
Glad your roasts are coming out tasting good.

>>13949662
Just cupped the three batches I did today. Bit fresh, but I ground them 20 minutes before brewing to degas a bit. 20s post FC (around 5% DTR) tastes really fruity and bright with a good sweetness. Incredibly clean. 50s (12%ish) tastes even sweeter with a good body, and just a hint of roastiness. 22.5% dtr one is really roasty, but very nice acidity and sweetness still. Can't wait to see what they are like in a few days

>>13949877
If I had to guess, me shaking the roaster is causing my flexible temp probe to hit the hot metal sides around the heater Once I figure out how to post videos here I can show you some bean movement. I just watch my graph for BT to slow its rise, then drop fan% by 1 manually. Since these are way nicer beans than the brazilian, I don't want to start my fan too low and scorch anything. Tomorrow I'll start at 98 or 97 I guess.

>>13949901
Yeah, that makes sense. The camera on my phone is trash or I'd try to take some video as well. Might get the camera out and takes some bean photos later.

>>13950068
Moneyshot.

>>13933107
they look like diarrhea-shitting butt cracks

What's the advantage of home roasting? Wouldn't you have a less consistent and accurate temperature control in a home setting?

>>13950708
that looks a lot lighter than any roast i've ever seen, and i've had roasters from all over the uk and us. i still haven't tried a nordic roaster so this is probably closer to that? assuming the camera is accurate to life

>>13948939
damn, thank the coffee autists that came up with this. I was looking around and everyone seemingly uses the sette 270, but i might get a breville

>>13948419
Pulled my first couple shots with the gaggia baby, turns out the Timemore Slim does ok at espresso. A 16g dose takes me maybe 80s to grind, and the step adjustment plate is stiff enough that you could leave the setting inbetween steps and grind. Or maybe just stick a washer in there and make it stepless.

How do I light, smooth, fruity, but not acidic?

>>13951242
Couple of things that may contribute:
It may be a brazillian coffee. These are typically pulped natural coffees. This sort of coffee will, when roasted to the same degree as a washed coffee from a different region, appear much lighter in color. It could also be the camera or lighting used.

To note that it is in fact not particularly light, look instead at texture. Lighter roasts will look very dry, and have a lot of wrinkles and striations. In this photo we see some striations, and a pale silverskin. This means it is before second crack, and within - at darkest - the medium roast range. Looking further, we see that there is a slight sheen to the surface, and a large portion of the beans are smooth, or somewhat smooth on their flat side. This indicates at least a city or city+ roast. Likely, this coffee is - depending on what sort of definitions are used - a medium roast, potentially on the lighter end of medium. This would probably be about what you'd see in third wave shops for their espresso. Darker than a Nordic filter roast, lighter than a starbucks blonde roast.

>>13951363
Depends on what you mean by acidic. There is a widespread misuse of that term in coffee. Acidic should be used to describe things high in acid. For instance, a lemon - citric acid (which is actually the standard for sour, or acidic, in professional tasting). Acidic, however, is used often to describe coffee that is bitter, or just unpleasant. Some of this may come from the sour-bitter confusion, which around 15% of people make.

The reason I am clarifying is because you've asked for something that seems to be self contradictory. You've asked for fruity, but without acid. The flavor of ripe fruit is typically the product of sweet and acid combined. Think of a ripe pineapple.
Or maybe you just find lighter fruity coffees to be too acidic in the correct way. That is likely an error of extraction level or water composition. To remedy this, grind finer until the coffee becomes bitter. Did it taste good at any point before it became bitter? If not, try adding a bit (maybe 0.05g, or as little as you can) of baking SODA (not powder) to your brew water. This will increase the KH and serve to mitigate some of the acid in the coffee.

>>13951202
Well, compared to who?

The advantage for me is:
Fun of experimentation
Better understanding of the role of roasting in the flavor of coffee
Control over the result
Satisfaction of doing it myself

Compared to my local roasters, I am superior. I ensure better quality control, and I have higher information. I can experiment with profiles to get a better result for a much lower cost. While modest, my roasting setup can achieve excellent results both in the cup and the data.

Compared to the best roasters I have tried, I am lacking. I can't afford to buy coffee in large enough quantities to have top tier selection, or to ship it in properly cooled containers, and store it in deep freezes at peak condition. I am unsure of whether a popper style roaster can be equivalent to a traditional drum style roaster or not, but the widespread (and competition winning) use of the Ikawa roaster makes me think so.

With the amount of experimentation I do, cost savings is not a benefit for me.

>>13951202
Advantage? I paid $35 for 5lbs of that columbian. Goes ~$35/lb roasted if you were to order it. The brazilian I'm roasting up tomorrow I snagged for $2.60 an lb. Picked up 5lbs for $13. I can roast twice a week and have fresh coffee on demand.

>>13951242
Last thread had someone bitching that my roast was way too dark, now its lighter than anyone has ever seen. kek.

>>13951323
Stepless mod sounds like the way to go. Report back.

>>13951367
Purple caturra from Finca Monteblanco.

>>13951432
Where do you get your green coffee? It costs around 12-16/ pound in Canada when buying quantities appropriate for a home roaster, from high quality suppliers that I've found. The prices you get are what commercial roasters get here (in USD).

>grind coffee
>assemble moka pot
>put it on the stove
>froth and heat the milk
>combine milk and coffee when done
>add some caramel sauce
Why is it so comfy?

>>13931426
double filtered tap water (cold water filter under the sink, gravity filter in the fridge)

>>13931426
glorious norwegian tap water

Got some Sumatra Mandheling beans and they're pretty weird in shape. Tried roasting them yesterday and they seem rather inconsistent and not much chaff came off
I roasted light/med - will try later

Has anyone else roasted with this before?

i'm probably gonna get bullied for this but can I do this recipe with a french press and ground espresso coffee beans that expired 5 years ago?
how bad will expired ground coffee taste?
https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/iced-coffee-shakerato

>>13952432
There are so many factors that are going to affect taste that your breast bet is just brewing and see what happens. Either way I dont think it will kill you at least.

>>13952159
Sumatran coffee is notorious for its poor quality. That's why you see so much variation.

>>13951496
greencoffee.coop Flatrate shipping, 5lb minimum, 20lb max. Like a $3 fee per order keeps the site running and I pay cost. Got 15lbs of 3 different Brazilians on his last drop. The entire point is he's selling at as close to cost as possible.

>>13953066
Thanks man

>>13953066
Also, never seen a maragogipe from Brazil before. That one should be fun

>>13953062
ah ok, I got a selection of 4 beans to try out roasting for the first time and this was one of them, guess Ill know not to get it in the future

Any brits recommend some green coffee? I like quite acidic light roasts

>>13945439
>>13938048

Grinder quality doesn't matter much for drip coffee but for espresso it's really important. It's possible to dial in the right grind setting on a $300 grinder but it will be a lot easier on a $1000 grinder and you'll waste less time and coffee in the process. There's also the matter of grind retention. If you like mixing up beans at home, a cheaper grinder will be more likely to pollute your coffee with different grounds trapped inside the burrs. Bigger and more powerful grinders are less likely to have this problem.

You can get great coffee from a cheaper grinder, it's just harder. If you make a lot of coffee and have the money, it makes sense to splurge.

I'm dying to have a latte and I'm out of work and the coffee shops are all closed. Don't have an espresso maker and home with a steaming wand and I'll be getting one in a few months, so I'm going to get one of these.
Anyone have experience with them? How good can I get my milk with it, and how well can techniques transfer?

I know it's not ideal but I just want some nice milk.

>>13929402
does night count as day?

>>13954103
You need a bellman steamer.

>>13954152
How good are they compared to ones built in to espresso machines? I'm looking for an okay stopgap to get me through the lockdown since I'll be moving afterwards to live with someone who owns a Delonghi Dedica EC685 and don't want to get something that will become redundant before I get my moneys worth.

>>13954103
>coffee shops are all closed.
some grocery stores that had starbucks inside them have their starbucks still open

>>13954190
None like that for me here sadly, they're all closed. The closest to me here is a supermarket with a machine but it's not the same as having a barista make it, or doing it yourself. As long as I can get a nice smooth foamy milk to pour I'll be happy. Saw a guy with a hand frother still manage to pour some art with one too.

>>13954186
A dedicated steamer will be better than that machine at the very least. Those hardly work properly

>>13954095
>Grinder quality doesn't matter much for drip coffee
Wrong

>>13954190
I work right next to a starbucks and the drive thru is still open. The line is consistently 50+ cars deep....it's really quite insane. It's been causing all kinds of traffic problems...I've seen 5 accidents this month.

>>13929397
This nigguh knows
Honestly got one in a christmas gift basket my mom made. Had it with my coffee and I was on cloud 9

>>13933076
I use boiled water in my bialetti. Works much faster

>>13933076
>not heating up your sink and using already hot water when you use your moka

couldn't be me

>>13954298

It matters, just not as much as it does for espresso, at least in my experience. Espresso is less forgiving.

>>13954975
You're not going to be making 0.01mm adjustments for pourover, but your particle uniformity is still a MAJOR issue. Get a good quality grinder. Learn how extraction works.

Lads I kind of miss when I didnt know anything about coffee. Just throw some ground in a press and give r. Or have some shitty tetleys tea with lots of milk. It was a simpler time

>>13955891
I don't desu. Everything I bought already paid for itself after so many bags of coffee.

>>13951415
>>13951432
Oh I see. What do you guys use for roasting the beans?

>>13956368

Modded popcorn popper. Posted it here. Basically a little sample roaster for home use, I do ~100g at a time.

>>13943827

Hi I'm new here but not new to coffee. Any good coffee subscriptions you guys use?

*blocks your path*
*mogs your gay artisan coffee*
*unmatched convenience
*BTFOs the environment*

>>13957316
>>>/lgbt/

I buy half gallon starbucks from Walmart just to spite darkies, then chug in 2 sittings

Thoughts on the December dripper?

>>13940920
also based bodum
btw u can use these to stretch ur own milk
https://youtu.be/rEy1cnj0Ea0?t=206

>>13957316

Bump

>>13957805
Shitty kalita wave

I've been drinking Ritual in the mail. They're doing a deal for shelter in place, $89 shipped, dealers choice. The one I got tastes like fig and chocolate.

I divided it up into 12 oz portions to vacuum seal and freeze. Is there a better way to deal with such a large quantity of freshly roasted beans?

>>13957304
Netflix

>>13947955
Why dont they make plastic ones? Honestly seems like a more repeatable system then meme hario

>>13959315
No idea. I definitely prefer the wave to the v60. If I was in the states, I would buy the blue bottle dripper though. It's a wave with the flaws fixed, but it's over 100 bucks to get it in canada.

It looks like coffee started worsening my anxiety. I'm tired every day and I need caffeine, otherwise I'm not productive. Should I substitute coffee with something?

>>13959446
Tea, the l-theanine works to combat the anxiety. You could probably lace your coffee with l-theanine too.

>>13959446
Amphetamines.

give me one (1) reason why I can't make iced coffee using instant coffee

>>13959549
Maybe u dont have any ice or instant coffee

>>13959549
No reason not to. Instant coffee tastes best at lower temperatures. I've been a coffee nerd for a decade, I own an ek43, I make my own water, that kind of shit. I think that some supermarket available instant coffee is downright decent if made properly. Try lighter instant coffees like nescafe gold, and use good water at around 55c, at a 1:50 ratio (instant to water).

>>13959581
I have nescafe gold funnily enough
I also have a simple syrup I made with brown sugar but i'm on a fast so I don't want to touch the stuff
Do I make half a cup of coffee, pour it into a shaker with ice until the thing feels cold then pour it into a glass with ice in?

>>13959592
Just use room temperature coffee to dissolve the instant and then give that a mix with ice. Go more concentrated than the 1:50 ratio I gave

Is there an autistic database of all the different coffee drinks out there and explains stuff like what a French person means when they say café au lait vs what it means to a Brit, etc.

>>13959682
Room temperature water, not coffee

I'm drinking mushroom coffee

It tastes like mushrooms

What's the best way to brew two cups of coffee in the morning without a gooseneck kettle? I don't want to use a moka pot because of aluminium leeching.

How much coffee do people go through in a month?
Do you buy from stores or mail order speciality?

Do I need a gooseneck to do V60?

>>13960934
Seems like it based on what I've read. You can use other containers or do the chopstick pour trick but that sounds like a hassle.

>>13960934
Need? No.
It just makes it easier, but you can do a good v60 with a pot to pour from.

>>13960866
around 700g a month. Roast it all myself.

>>13960971
>>around 700g a month. Roast it all myself.
Wow, that's hardcore. Buying "fancy" coffees and an aeropress already feels advanced for me.

>>13960934
Yes

>>13960934
its nice to have. i bought a cheap electric one off amazon for around 30 leafbux and it works good. temp control is a meme unless you are making a bunch of green tea and shit

>>13961515
begone richfag

>>13959581
im taking away your ek for saying that

>>13962290
Try making it properly and I bet you'll be surprised; I was. It's not going to be better than good coffee, but it's better than anything Starbucks makes, or that you'll get from grocery store coffee made in a mr coffee. I've had some really rank instant as well, but the lighter looking stuff is better than it has any business being. I'd wager that a properly made cup of something like nescafe gold or tasters choice or whatever it was I had is better than what 90% of people drink.

Is coffee good for you?

>>13962318
I think your taste buds are shot. Try returning them under warranty.

>>13962389
Depends on what coffee and how often do you drink it

>>13962389
Sugar and dairy are both real bad for you. Coffee by itself is mostly fine, other than residual pesticides.

>use french press a lot
>want to get into eapresso
>buy moka pot
Am I becoming one of those coffee hipster assholes?

>>13962931
I'd say french press is more hipstery than moka pot.

>>13962931
As long as you don't buy a manual espresso machine you're fine.

*SIIIP* *AAAAH* Top of the morning to ya', cunt! *SLUUUUUUURP* What a wonderful day.

>>13945010
Press it out
https://youtu.be/rOOY0uWwlAA?t=129

So I gave up coffee for Lent -- but I merely substituted it with 1 cup of tea in the a.m. and another in the p.m. Is this cheating?

Because since all the coffee shops are closed, it's been really easy to extend my coffee ban past Lent. I was an every morning cappuccino / macchiato / flat white addict -- surprisingly easy to quit and I don't miss it that much t b h

>>13964015
technically not, since you gave up coffee, not caffeine

>>13962389
you dropped this

>>13964271
you ____ ____

>>13964271
white women fuck dogs

>>13964544
I fuck dogs and I'm not a woman

Anyway, back on topic. How much coffee do you drink per sitting?
I like brewing and drinking in 750ml units.

>>13964554
That's huge
I do 200 grams or so

>>13964562
It is a lot but it's not like I'm chugging it either, one brew lasts me a while
It's just convenient to drink it all in one go

>>13933076

I use cold water. Works fine.

Hello coffeefags. Seeing as you're all hanging in here, does anyone have any clue about what's going on with the board?

Are french presses as good as an aeropress?

>>13932478
>who would use 99.999% pure H20 to brew
Oh im sorry I dont like the taste of chlorine and nigger piss in my coffee. How is this in any way a novel idea.

>>13931426
if you use anything other than distilled your insane.
>muh minerals
Yeah yeah yeah. Have fun descaling your espresso machines and equipment.

>>13966078
I'm sure the sca makes millions off of shilling baking soda and Epsom salt.

Roasted up some of the brazilian ruby. Little color variation I can only assume is attributed to this coffee being by far the most varied in bean size. Didn't want to pick up the kruve bean grader after the sifter but it may be worth it.

>>13966078
magnesium and bicarbonate don't produce scale. If you use distilled and add epsom and baking soda you won't get scale, and will have proper GH/KH. If you just use distilled you can corrode metal over time, and will not be getting a proper extraction.

>>13966545
>kruve bean grader
Neat
As for your color differences, it really looks like semi quakers. Whenever I roast brazillian coffees they have more quakers than other origins. I can spot 3 quakers in that photo for sure.

So, this bad boy arrived this week. Shit's pretty cash. Not quite an espresso but about ten times better than a moka pot. Recommended.