/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>14117996
>zero flavor

some studies say it causes insulin resistance because your body primes itself for a large sugar intake but then doesn't have one, and this effect is exacerbated if you eat carbohydrates along with it

other studies say its all bullshit

>>14118007
the insulin resistance thing is bro science.

>>14117996
apparently what >>14118007
and the fact that you can make feel hungry/overeat. But if you are relatively healthy and drink it in moderation you should be fine. Obviously if you substitute water with only this shit you will not be at all healthy.

>>14117996
It's soda.

>>14118026
>Obviously if you substitute water with only this shit you will not be at all healthy.
Sounds like you have no scientific basis for your statement again. Go back to Quora, Rasheed.

>>14117996
It's thin as fuck, sugar has a very noticeable effect on viscosity and sheer so even if the taste comes close it won't really satisfy a real degenerate junky like myself.

That said, I find the European Fanta no calories very nice. It has a couple percent of real orange juice and together with the stabilizer they put in (guar gum) it's much closer to a sugar based soda than Coke zero.

>>14117996
I know it sounds like a good idea at first, but replacing things in your diet with alternatives that lack nutritional value is neither healthy nor sustainable. It might help, but you're just placating the psychological side of the issue instead of working on it.

That aside, anyone have the webm of the champ pounding back around 3L worth of mini-cokes in under a minute?

>>14117996
0% sugar
100% carcinogenic chemicals to smooth out your brain

me, I like to add 1/4 oz lemon juice to my coca cola zero sugar

they don't sell lemon zero here for some reason

>>14118237
>oz
You mean as the wizard of oz?
Seriously tho why this dumb name for a measurement unit?

>>14118246
he didn't create the unit of measurement, anon

>>14118246
Because the imperial units were made up by a stupid drunkard rolling dice.
Also fahrenheit.

>citric acid
goodbye teeth (especially if you're like the retard a few posts up to actually adds lemon juice on top of it), as well as the aforementioned way it can cause you to overeat.

>>14117996
it tastes like dishwashing liquid

>>14118026
>>14118007
there is no study that shows a normal (pack of 12 cans, 2 liters) liquid consumption of aspartame causes insulin resistance or weight gain

>>14118020
Bro science is more reliable than "I fucking love SCIENCE" mainstream garbage.

>>14118845
>There's no peer-reviewed academic and well-reported on study that shows one of the most widely sold and profitable products of the most powerful global corporate hegemons is actually cancerous and toxic

Okay pseud

>>14118007
that makes no sense. if anything the effect would be exaverbated if you eat a carbless meal. even then it makes no sense because your body stores carbs for literal days.

>>14118882
>my dubious study is more reliable than your dubious study
Sure, believe whatever dumb shit you want

>>14118026
>Obviously if you substitute water with only this shit you will not be at all healthy
Great, please explain how you came to this conclusion

>>14118845
I don’t see WHY simply drinking a drink would prime your body for large sugar. What if you grew up never drinking a regular coke? Your body isn’t like “oh I heard about coke, it has lots of sugar, let me prime up.”

That being said I only ever drink Diet Coke when I am in a fat mode.
I’ll be healthy and drinking water and tea not touching it for years. I started putting on some weight recently, and not surprisingly Diet Coke drinking became a pretty common thing. It’s just because the carbonation makes me eat more though

>>14118946
Because it's extremely sweet. Your body doesn't care about coca-cola, they care about preparing to take in a huge fucking amount of immediately available calories through sugar.

Digestion of begins in the mouth.

>>14118946
>I don’t see WHY simply drinking a drink would prime your body for large sugar.
some claim it is because your body can't tell the difference between carbs and artificial sweeteners, of course it's bullshit.

>>14118007
I don't trust "studies". All modern "science" is fake.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis

>>14118955
Probably more like just how Americans all thought MSG was bad but they were just being idiots

>>14118959
Do you think your body waits until food hits your lower intestine to start digesting it? That everything prior to that is just a hole and acid bucket?

You're fucking braindead m8.

>>14117996
None. They have basically solved soda.

>>14118976
MSG got a bad rap because people had bad reactions to Chinese food. It's one of the few instances in which I'd say that "racism" played an actual role.

>>14118980
how is that relevant?
of course diet soda is not digested in your mouth. all that happens in your mouth is amylase breaking down the carbs which are not present here.

>>14118999
Because your body reacts to digest what it tastes as soon as you begin tasting it.

The insulin response occurs before it even hits your lower intestine fucking retard.

Do you think all those taste signals going to your brain are just to give you food-cummies? Shithead

>>14118882
based retard

>>14119009
Your body does not give a shit what your food tastes like.
Your mom keeps swallowing my cum, yet her body doesn't go into pregnant mode.

>>14119045
>Your body does not give a shit what your food tastes like.
Okay jackass. Your cumbrain is clearly too ruined to understand this basic principle. Keep chugging diet coke and wondering why you won't lose weight.

>>14119052
I'm not the same guy but maybe you should be a bit more humble. Your little theory has not even the beginning of a proof. None of the so called negative health effects of diet soda have been proven. Some people are doing this weird mental gymnastic to invent these theories because they can't stand the fact that people can drink soda and get away with it.

>>14118007
It's almost always tests on fat fucks, because fat fucks lie and subvert their diet.

When they do tests on normal weight people it works exactly as you expect.

I've been on a cut since January. Lost ten pounds then was stalling at the same weight for a while. Stopped drinking so much diet coke, and lost 6.5 pounds in a single week.
Thanks for reading my blog.

>>14119052
>>14119107
And also ask any dietitian about this topic and they will tell you that diet soda are a thousand times better than regular soda, and that people that switch from one to the other do lose weight and increase their overall health, despite what you believe.

>>14119107
>""""proof""""
I bet you believed the CDC when they told you masks don't prevent virus transmission too.

>>14118898
>there's tons of studies that show it causes insulin resistance and weight gain!
>no there isn't
>oh well are you surprised?!@?!? the corporations own science!

>>14119129
Of course diet sodas are "better" than drinking 200+ calories of high fructose corn syrup. Literally nobody is arguing that point.

>>14119140
>oh well are you surprised?!@?!? the corporations own science!
This but unironically

>>14119140
>50 years ago
>there's tons of studies that show long-term cigarette smoking causes throat and lung cancers
>no there isn't
>oh well are you surprised?!@?!? the corporations own science!

No catch. It doesn't taste the same as original Coke. Some may prefer or dislike the flavor. Not like the 80s diet shit that was completely undrinkable. The new stuff at least tastes decent if less preferable. Small price to pay for easy weight loss and/or keeping the weight off for some.

>>14119142
I don't know if you're the same guy but
>>14119052
>Keep chugging diet coke and wondering why you won't lose weight.

is clearly arguing against the fact that diet soda are making people lose weight.

>>14119180
Diet soda can't "make you lose weight" shithead. It can impede weight loss and fuck with your insulin levels.

Nobody is arguing that 200+cal of HFCS is good for you. You imagined that.

>>14118237
my nigga
classic move, I always fill the space at the top of the can with lemon juice up to the rim

>>14118917
>if anything the effect would be exaverbated if you eat a carbless meal
because its a more convincing trick

>>14118037
>>14118845
>>14118936
t. fatties

I drink these twice a day and my blood sugar levels are fine. Why do people fall for fake science

>>14117996
tastes like shit

>>14119848
t. fat fuck

>>14117996
Weird thing with diet coke and coke zero is i love it and it tastes very sweet and flavourful when im sober. But when i'm high on pot it tastes like really nice soda water.
As long as you are brushing your teeth 2 - 3 times a day its safe for drinking. Coke Zero is better for you however if you drink copious amounts of diet coke

>>14118246
>He has less knowledge than an American
Billions of such cases.

Artificial sweeteners taste like shit and nothing like sugar. Family of my wife chugs zero like its nothing, its disgusting.
The sweet taste stays way too long in your mouth like some oily film and has that weird chemical taste. How peop can drink this shit is beyond me.

>but muh sugar is unhealthy
yeah sure drinking dubious chemicals is better than moderation
>it tastes the same
no it does not if you have healthy tastebuds
maybe the acid fucked up your tastebuds, dunno

>>14118020
I have no idea if this has any truth to it: >>14118007

But insulin resistance is the mechanism through which type II diabetes works. I often need to prescribe those guys huge amounts to bring their blood sugar down. Tellingly, different people require vastly different amounts. Compare with type I who don't PRODUCE insulin, and generally only need small amounts prescribed.

Side note: type I is the type young people tend to contract, you might know one. Type II is the type you get from eating cake your whole life, so fat middle-aged people tend to get it. You will know plenty of these people.

>>14117996
it's worse than Pepsi Max

>>14117996
You're paying jews.

>>14117996

>Zero calories
>Zero sugar
>Zero fat

ok, so what am I missing here?

>>14122075
fucking this

>>14118994
>racism

Yeah you're right, the vast majority of Ameriburgers HATE Chinese take out.

>>14122148
Food isn't the same as people, Anon.

>>14122075

Not dying.

>>14117999
good one dad

>>14118246
Do europoors really?

>>14122169
EXACTLY

>>14122177
Actually, the only conclusion you can draw is that he isn't American. Nowhere else uses oz, not even the UK, and we're half-in, half-out.

>>14122179

Are you implying that coke zero sugar kills you?

>>14117996
it's addictive and will destroy your teeth

>>14122181
AKSHHUALLLLY

>>14117996
I love it. In my country they sell diet Pepsi in a variety of different flavors: lime and mango are my favorites. Not even classic Coke and Pepsi have this many flavors to choose from. Chill it and drink it pure or mix it with some whisky. Great stuff.

>>14117996
I find it tastes like (to a lesser degree than energy drinks), like battery acid.

>>14121747
t. fatty

>>14118820
You've drunk dishwashing liquid?

Drinking soda makes me cry for some reason

>>14123005
spicy water

Your body ups its insulin production converting more carbs to sugar and then fat, you actually get fatter drinking this shit.

>>14117996
pepsi max tastes better, and I love coke

>>14123009
you literally don't. diet soda is basically a life saver for former fatties on restrictive diets. go look at sub reddits for omad or keto and they all live off the shit. I know people who lost weight simply by switching their regular sugary drinks for zero sugar drinks and nothing else. gaining weight on diet coke is a meme made up by journalists.

>>14123028
you literally do. Fat people lose weight fast because the body cannot sustain that weight ,so any minor drop in calories results in swift loss of fat, they plateau shortly after and wont lose any more without exercise and further dietary restrictions beyond drinking insulin water.

The idea that insulin release is somehow inherently bad is just ketocuck broscience. There's nothing wrong with insulin being secreted when you eat. It's normal, even in large amounts. You're only going to have issues with insulin resistance if you are eating a lot of food constantly and therefore have constantly elevated insulin. In this regard diet soda may be bad, because people might drink it like water throughout the day and therefore have constantly slightly elevated insulin levels.

Having a your heartrate go to 180 doesn't give you heart disease. Having a constantly high heartrate (i.e. resting heartrate > 100, 24/7) does. Being stressed out as a result of some bad thing happening doesn't harm your health. Being stressed 24/7 and therefore having constantly high cortisol does fuck up your brain over time. And having a shit-ton of insulin suddenly secreted when you eat a big meal does not give you diabetes. But having constantly elevated insulin levels without them ever going down does.

Just don't eat so fucking much and so often.

>>14123055
post one single study

>>14123060
>t. I'm a fatass if that matters

>>14123065
studies are endorsed by companies with agendas, you'd have to be next level retarded to believe any of them

>>14123071
then where is your proof sonny jim

>>14119127
Fair bit of salt in Coke Zero, could have been making you retain water weight.

>>14123086
Science is my proof buddy

>>14118845
>normal (pack of 12 cans, 2 liters) liquid consumption of aspartame

>>14117999
It's fine if you add two tablespoons of sugar to it.

>>14117996
Some say it causes inflammation or even cancer, but who knows? I'd say the only real catches are it probably makes you crave sugar and it's no doubt bad for your teeth.

As long as you don't drink 20 of those a day, you're good. Only real negative is that if you are trying to go on a diet, these things (and any other 0 sugar sugary shit) doesn't help with satiating your desire for sugary stuff that are calorie dense. Only other catch I have read about these is that they stain your teeth faster than regular coke.

>>14117996

It's still bad for your teeth & contains sweeteners.

>>14123005
like actual sad sobbing or just tears?

The sugar subsitute is worse for your body than actual sugar

>>14123540
nice karen science

also eat shit everyone ITT. I have amazing straight teeth and drink soda my whole life

>>14117996
it destroys your teeth

>>14118289
Also makes you thirstier because it has shitloads of sodium

>>14123060
Sure if you only have one diet soda every so often your body will be fine.

People drink diet soda like it was water and then wonder why they don't lose weight.