/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>14374563
Because European soil is lacking in nutrition for flavorful plants to grow.

>>14374566
lmao do euros not know about fertilizer?

>>14374571
All our toms are hydroponic these days

>>14374571
They're only allowed to use what China's giving them.

>>14374563
I agree. This really goes for any and all produce in Europe

Even here in America, simple tomato on McD’s burger is bursting with so much flavor compared to Europoor tomato

>>14374563
Stop trolling. I've tasted tomatoes in USA and they taste the same as European supermarket tomatoes. Bred for shelf-life, no flavour. Home grown from seed are the best, no matter where you are.

>>14374563
Isn’t Italy in Europe

>>14374689
mutts don't know geography
they don't even know their capital aka. Israel

>>14374681
Seething Europoor

>>14374689
It’s part of Africa now

>>14374689
Have you tasted a supermarket tomato and then tasted a home grown tomato? Idiot.

>>14374563
don't know. i'm french and our tomatoes are garbage unless you get them at a local farmer's market or grow your own. any tomato i bought in naples was absolutely delicious though. couldn't eat tomatoes for months after coming home

>>14374563
imported tomatoes are always shit here. They are bred to be tough and resilient so they don't get squished during transport, and they are always harvested underripe. Locally grown tomatoes (when they are in season) or better yet self grown tomatoes are amazing though.

what does a "good" tomato taste like?

>>14374563
i'm the european now

>>14374846
amazing. you just have to try one and then you realise the ones you ate so far are sooooo bland. you'll know it when you taste it.

>>14374846
it's difficult to describe, but they are very acidic and earthy, but not in an unpleasant way. A ripe tomato with a little salt tastes great by itself. Some varieties, like cherry tomatoes, can be sweet as well.

>>14374846
They taste like ketchup minus the vinegar.

>>14374689
I hear it’s in Asia

>>14374563
just dont buy from megafarms and they'll taste like tomatoes, isnt that the case for the whole world?

>>14374930
you're american aren't you?

>>14374846
Good tomato is quite pleasant, it’s slightly sweet and sour, and with a little salt it’s quite amazing

>>14374689
I can't tell if you're trolling or not, but Italian cuisine for 99.9999999% of human history was berries, wheat, cabbage and various meats, the same as the rest of Europe/Asia/Africa. Tomatoes only arrived in The Old World a few hundred years ago.

>>14374938
europe isn't even a subcontinent, let alone an actual continent, so you're unironically right
europeans are just larping northwest Asians. inb4 the inevitable copeseethe

>>14374563
Depends on the tomato, I buy locally grown when it's hotter and Spanish imports rest of the year, they're usually the best for the price.
I have my own little thing of cherry tomatoes I use for caprese salad as a treat when my friends come over

>>14374563
Europe has retarded restrictions on genetic engineering which massively improves the flavor of produce

>>14374647
McDonalds doesn't put tomato on their burgers.

>>14375016
ok and that has nothing to do with what he was saying: that Italy is in Europe and it has flavorful tomatoes. In particular, their San Marzano tomatoes are incredibly flavorful.

>>14374846
A little bit funky. Not just like water.

My local supermarket tomatoes are also trash, but I have found local supermarket cherry tomato varieties to be significantly better.

>>14375026
Stay mad north south american, you wish you were a one nation island continent.

>>14374576
It's probably this. Sun ripened tomatoes taste a lot better.

>>14374563
It because a huge part of the vegetables sold in europe is produced in the Neatherlands; they have incredibly efficient coltivation so their export price are incredibly competitive, but the taste of the product itself is quite bland

>>14375118
On some they do

>>14375534
No one’s jelly of Australia bro.

>>14374681
>Bred for shelf-life, no flavour
Bred for looks. Real, tasty tomatoes had a gene that let the skin remain green around the stem. That was removed to make the tomato look better, and the taste went away along with it.

I must say it has gotten a bit better again lately and you can have actually flavourful full size tomatoes again. apparently people complained too much about tasteless "waterbombs".

Hot house tomatoes are simply not as good

>>14374689
>tomate is from eye-talia
zozzle

Tomatos are amazing near the mediteranean area. the pb is the rest of Europe buy them cheap hard and green to sell them to Germnay, UK and the other northern countries than can't grow them, with some marketing to tell them that its totally how it's done. So they don't question and buy more of it. Same for fruits. Sweden love its apricots crunchy for shit sake.

>>14374563
Well yea arent most of them grown in the netherlands? What do the dutch know about flavor?

>>14374571

>>14375016
woah dude, 500 years? feels like yesterday

>>14374846
Acidic, but balanced. Slightly salty almost due to the flavors and nutrients the tomatoes suck up when they're growing, so when you *do* season the tomato with a pinch of salt the flavors just explode in your mouth.
There's nothing truly like it, not even farmers market 'matos compete with a 'mato you grew yourself.

>>14375130
Cherry tomatos just by their design are an infinitely better choice if you are forced to buy tomatoes at the store.

>>14375026
Europe created the concept of a continent. We can call ourselves whatever we want.

>>14374563
Those from Spanish farm factories, developes to last a thousand years taste like water, sure. Grow your own and learn.

I truly lament for those that have never had a homegrown tomato. All produce is better homegrown, without exceptions. Homegrown celery is like ten times as potent as storebought.

As many have stated in this thread, all store bought tomatoes are shit the world over and that's a fact because they cannot vine ripen nor are they fed good nutrition.

>>14378471
>tfw living in Scandinavia

>>14378486
How bad are your temps there, snow year round or what? Where I live it goes below zero ferenheit, and I can grow kale and lettuce in hoop houses through the whole winter along with carrots and beets.

i shit on euros

t. euro

>>14378497
Well yeah, you can grow all of those, plus some of the best berries you can find anywhere but good luck growing some nice ripe tomatoes. Even if you have a glass house.

I'm trying to grow some cucumbers on my balcony right now and I think they won't survive the current ~13°C cold weather.

>>14374954
Yep, although I dont use ketchup much and I only eat my own grow tommies.

>>14378505

>>14378486
You live in the same climate as me and I grow tons of stuff.

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>>14378536

>>14378497

Scandinavians do have their own variety of heirloom tomatoes, pic related.

You haven't lived until you've had a Scandinavian D.O.C. pizza:

>Hardtack crust made from pine flour
>Covered with savoury snowball sauce (chopped snowballs and cool water)
>Accented by Scandavian toppings like pinecones, pine needles, and gravel
>"Baked" in an icechest until just below freezing

The pizza should be eaten alone, sitting on the ground in the forest, expressionless and completely silent. (At least according to the purists. In practice, quiet weeping is usually permitted, as long as your sniffles do not scare away the birds.)

>>14378570
Pizza is unironi one of the better things you can get in Norway, mainly because they're such Ameriboos.

>>14378574

Joking aside, do they do a lot of fish pizza? Everybody knows about anchovies, but one of my favorite pizzas at a joint in New England was smoked salmon and capers. That seems like it would be popular in Norway.

>>14378603
I have never seen any fish on pizza. Maybe some anchovies, but that's it.

>>14378623
tuna, capers and onion is a patrician pizze.

>>14378623
pfft..

>>14378653

Based. BTW, if you search for "salmon pizza" you'll get a lot of recipes for "pizza" consisting of cream cheese smeared on a pre-baked crust. We're talking about real pizza with melted cheese, although it may well be a white pizza.

>>14374563
Yeah noticed the same, stores tomatoes in room temp now but when abroad tomatoes explodes in your mouth.

Citrus the same, it virtually explodes in your mouth when below the equator, nektarines, paraguayans, oranges ...

>>14378574
Wait... they really have an affinity for American culture? OH NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONOONONONONONONONONONNONO

The jumbo here in the Netherlands used to have San Marzano tomatoes, they were delish. But usually their stuff is meh. The green grocer has better tomatoes.

You want vine ripe. Most others are not ripe and are turned red by chemicals. They shelf better but taste like shit.

>>14378791

Do Norwegians really?