/ck/ - Food & Cooking

ECeleb board when?

>>14909848
If there's anything more insufferable than adam, it's the entire population of italy

>>14909848
Who? Who is this? Why the fuck are you posting it on the foodand cooking board? Holy fuck, i hate zoomers and their Ecelebs

>>14909869
>>14909904
It's someone advertising.

>>14909904
those are two acclaimed italian chefs critiquing ecelebs on their cooking. How is this not /ck/? only fastfood is allowed?

>>14909919
>two acclaimed italian chefs
Good
>critiquing ecelebs on their cooking
Nobody cares. This is Fox reality drama tier 'entertainment'.

>>14909869
Just ban these morons.

>>14909848
>Be Italian
>Food consists of 4 staple ingredients
>Pasta is literally the same, just different shapes
THEY PUT THE BABADEBOOPIE IN BEFORE THE BOOPDEDOOP. AND THE WRONG SHAPE OF SPAGHET????????

>>14909942
this is howa you makea the gabagool reala authentic likea, paisano

>>14909848
i have fun watching italians lose it over shit like this and i honestly sympathize with them most of the time, but this particular series is kind of obnoxious in that they rarely tell you what the right way that would satisfy them is. i still don't know what the proper way to make tomato sauce according to them is.
on the first recipe the checkered shirt guy was going on and on about burnt oil for some reason and "why is the carrot there? why the carrot? why the carrot?" and saying shit like "there is a grammar in cooking". just say what you mean. why not a carrot? what made you think the oil was burnt?

>>14909942
based

>>14909869
hopefully soon

>>14910003
>but this particular series is kind of obnoxious in that they rarely tell you what the right way that would satisfy them is
Just because it exposes how bad the anglo race cooks.

>i still don't know what the proper way to make tomato sauce according to them is.
Keep in mind it is a italian channel, every italian knows how to make a right variations of pasta with tomato.
The format of the serie is "reaction to the most viewed videos" not "basics with italians". You are looking for information in the wrong place and containing about it.

>>14909942
Tbh there are more variations in italy than the entire usa, which is amazing considering how small it is in camparison

>>14911160
okay, fine i was looking in the wrong place then. you seem to know your shit, can't you answer my questions instead?

>>14910003
I don't like reaction videos because the people being filmed have an incentive to overreact to make the video interesting. Even if they saw someone make spaghetti sauce 100% correctly, the way they themselves would do it, I guarantee they'd still find something to flip out over. The burnt oil thing is a great example. There's no reason to assume the oil is going to be burnt. But because it's a reaction video he's already in that negative mindset and he calls it burnt.

>>14909904
The subject matter is cooking dumbshit. Keep up.

>>14911247
Do you want the recipe for pasta with tomatoes?

>>14911583
just the proper way to make tomato sauce according to italians

>>14911586
It depends on the season and the kind of plain tomato sauce you want to make

The 2 macro categories are pasta with fresh tomatoes and with canned/passata.

I usually don't like passata/canned for plain tomato pasta, I used then for specific recipe like ragù, amatriciana, puttanesca etc.

The basis of the dish is being savory not sweetness.
The recipe is simple
> Soffritto with **crushed** garlic (1 for family as a rule of thumb)
> add the fresh tomatos (san Marzano or preferably small one)
> Salt
> Let it cook half covered for at least 20 min at medium heat
> put few basil leaves
> When it's cooked, put cooked pasta in the sauce (don't drain completely, but don't out excessive amount of water, the pasta just have to be humid)
> Make he pasta jump with heat off in the sauce
> Put one or two basil leaves for plate one optionally finish with a very small amount of olive oil

I cannot give you precise instructions in quantities, you have to correct the recipe based on too many variables (eg quality of tomatoes)

That's for fresh tomato sauce. For canned and passata Is quite the same, but you will obtain a different results

>>14909848
Italia Squista is a gold mine.
Some of the best recipes online there, and with good production value too.

>>14910003
https://youtu.be/QeEeldJEtq0
There you go nigger

The breaking of pasta is one of the things that bother me the most. Why can't the anglos just use short pasta instead?

>>14910003
These guys typically do show you their way of making a dish in another video.
For example for Carbonara they did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnZ_70XyVAk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elq1UYbJ-JQ

Or for Pesto they did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkI9qg2YVI0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFv5ZmztvSI

Give it a few days and one or more of the judges will show their methods most likely.

Some general suggestions
> Cutting garlic in different ways (crushed, minced, sliced, grated...) change the powerfulness since allicin is released by cutting the gralic. **You have no freedom on garlic cut, flow what the recipe says**

> Allicin is thermolabile. One of the biggest errors Americans do is putting a shitton of garlic and cook the shit out if it loosing the flavor. Put less garlic and cook it less to have a more strong and fresh garlic taste

> Fresh tomatoes need to be cooked for extended period of time in not too much heat, to extract the lycopene from them

> Salt the pasta water, it makes difference
> Don't waste olive oil in pasta water, it doesn't make difference
> Make the sauce before or in contemporary with pasta, not the other way around.

>>14909904
>t.

>>14910003
Carrots add quite a bit of sweetness to a sauce.
Tomatoes already get rather sweet when cooked down so it can throw off the balance of flavors.

>>14909848
What a bunch of fags.
> "NOOOO TO) MUCH GARLIC!!!!""
>"why do the put the bidibibope in the buepdipopo"

>>14909848
>Italian freaking out because someone didn't make their shit the exact same way grandma did
What else is new. Italian food is overrated as fuck and Italians are beyond autistic about it.

Telling Ragusea to use the Tomato leaves in his next sauce made me cackle.

>>14909848
How is the older guy the only one who actually cares less about the traditions?

>>14911774
> Amerimut cannot enjoy a dish without butter
Color me surprised

>>14911184
It is amazing how such a small weak country disagrees with each other so much

>>14911699
What a bad recipe..

>>14911835
Spoken like a true chud

>>14911852
It's pretty fine

>>14911885
Meant for >>14911860

>>14909942
my fucking sides. Italians really are a delusional bunch. I guess when you are as irrelevant as you are nowadays, you have to act like that.

>>14911913
Cringe

>>14909848
the super repetitive soundtrack is killing me

Why is it always Italians are the most autistic when it comes to authenticity? Chinese, Mexicans, Indians and other races don't give as much autism when their food are adapted.

>>14910003
>why not a carrot?
Putting a whole carrot in a sauce won’t change its taste, and even if you chop it would overpower the natural sweetness of tomatoes, in that proportions
>what made you think the oil was burnt?
When the oil smokes, it means it’s burnt. Burnt olive oil tastes bitter. Same with garlic, you can clearly see that it turned brown

>>14909848
here's a timestamp to the important part btw
https://youtu.be/1xFttqgiRyU?t=628

>>14912008
A few reasons.
First is that for China and India, there isn't much connection to the West there on the internet.
For Mexico there is that in a poor nation like that, there really isn't that upper class of cuisine around to get upset.

Beyond that there is that of those Nations, Italy is the most post-industrial were things like culture become far more important.

>>14909848
their comments about adam are killing me. referring to the tomatoes he grew
>he wasted 8 months growing them and 2 minutes ruining them
>10 years really, it's a cycle of nature
>he should make a sauce using the leaves of the tomato plant

>>14909848
Is this supposed to be some kind of justice pwnage? Italians are the thinnest-skinned little bitches on Earth about their own food, who the fuck cares what they think

>>14911835
>tfw I'm going to continue to use bacon for carbonara
>tfw there's not a thing Giuseppe Rigatoni over here can do about it

>>14911728
>> Fresh tomatoes need to be cooked for extended period of time in not too much heat, to extract the lycopene from them
That’s the only point where I disagree. I cook fresh tomatoes at high heat in a short period of time, it really boost that sweet and savory flavor. But that’s maybe because I use small tomatoes instead of san marzano

>>14911790
Young cunts always try to adopt some kind of cultural identity as a stand-in for a real personality, the older guy rightfully doesn't give a fuck because he is a developed person with more important things to worry about.

>>14912099
That's right too.
That's the express way of making tomato sauce.
I do like that in summer, when I want less sauce. But in this way you don't extract the lycopene which contribute in "rounding" the taste (and it's also good for you)
You just obtain different results

>>14912077
You choose the right pic to represent you desu

IM A HOME COOK YOU ELITIST FUCKS
FUCK YOU!

>>14912146
Ok chud

>>14912146
I didn’t know about lycopene, I’ll try to cook them longer next summer. Tomato season is over sadly

>>14909848
I really liked their suggestion at the end for how Adam can improve his recipe. Of course most people didn't actually watch, so they won't know what I mean.

>>14909904
>>14909869
>>14909909
>>14909935
>>14910921
>WAAHHH stop posting cooking related videos on the cooking board!! mods ban him!!

You idiots need to shut the fuck up.

>mfw this thread is filled with people literally think Americans have improved Italian cuisine

>>14909872
true

>>14911723
why does it matter?

>>14912379
yes, and they have

>>14912379
italians dont have any cuisine

>>14912430
It is an useless step to make and by shorten the length of spaghetti it will make it a little more difficult to pick it up with the fork. And since there is a wide collection of different types of pasta it feels like you are being retarded on purpose.
This is why

>>14909869
We needed 10 videogame boards first

>>14912485
How will it fit in the pan? If I don’t break it then it sticks out and doesn’t cook at the same rate as the rest of the noodles

>>14912700
just use a big pot and plenty of water?

>>14912047
kek i loved how they suggested he should kill himself with the leafs

>>14912700
Use a bigger pot or just push the spaghetti down, since the hot water should have make them soft.
I sometimes use a spoon and put some water on the first half part that sticks out

>>14912439
god i hate americans

>>14912008
Italian culture has no value beyond its cuisine, so Italians have to pretend that any and all Italian food is a sacred ambrosia that can't be prepared "wrong"

>>14913128
are you serious? have you ever come out of your basement?

>>14912700
>How will it fit in the pan? If I don’t break it then it sticks out and doesn’t cook at the same rate as the rest of the noodles

>>14911362
Burnt oil and garlic tastes nasty.

>>14911913

Italy will still exist as a monolithic country while your empire of satan will turn into South Africa on steroids. Now go take your kids to their mandatory estrogen therapy session.

>>14913830
Based

>>14912032
browned garlic isn't burnt, also the oil never smoked in the video (link me to a timestamp if you saw it smoke, because i didn't), also oil isn't burnt as soon as it smokes, it takes a while to burn.

>>14914611
Try it yourself, put some garlic cloves in smoking hot olive oil, brown them, and taste the results. It you like it I have bad news for you

>>14913830
You're kidding, right? Your birthrate is fucked, Youre gonna keep taking the migrants till you're less Italian than the dishes being laughed at in op.

>>14909848
>ayyy ayyyy it's not like mama used to a-make ayyyyyyyyyy

Not even going to watch, italian chefs are by far the most insufferable beings on earth

>>14914640
the bitch in the video put the garlic cloves in the pot before she put the olive oil in. i highly doubt the oil was burnt and the garlic itself didn't look burnt either.

>>14912435
Using le grayscale muscular male won't make your point your opinion any more valuable.

>>14912691
That's not enough for every console and handheld and PC era ever

>>14914644
> Low birthrate
> The only think he could think of is importing black people

My God anon, the cuckoldry surely is in American genese.
Stop licking boots maybe there still a little hope

>>14915423
*genes

>>14912077
Don't forget the peas.

>>14909869
Advertising is against the rules.

Just report these ragusea fuck threads and done!

>>14912379
>implying that Americans haven't improved upon pastanigger "cuisine"
When somebody, anybody even, thinks of pizza they don't think of Italian napolitano pizza with cartel buffalo cheese kneaded 10,000 times. They think of Domino's, New York style slices and 'go 'za.

Forever cope, you Mediterranean coon.

>>14909848
Advertising is against the rules.

Just report these ragusea fuck threads and done!

Holy fuck Adam absolutely BTFO

>>14915456
But when they think about fine quality pizza they think about italian pizza.

American are the chinese of the food industry.
Cope harder faggot

italians can't cook

>>14909869
Never. some anon would go too far with stalking an eceleb and possibly get the site in trouble.

What the fuck these blocks of parmesan borders.

>>14912691
And videogames still don't have their eceleb board either

Italians make carbonara, or whatever, it is carbonara. Carbonara is a specific dish, the methods and ingredients are the foundation of the dish. Other people make a dish and it uses widely different methods and components, yet they still call it carbonara. That is why they are angry, they do not care if someone makes a dish with smoked bacon instead of guanciale or even pancetta, they do not care if they use parmesan instead of pecorino, add peas, cream, etc. The problem arises when they do these things and still call it a carbonara. It simply is not carbonara at that point.

>>14915653
This, it's basically shitting on years of tradition and culture. Just call it something else.

So is he spending all weekend completely assblasted writing an 5000 word essay response?

>>14915653

They are autistic then and have no knowledge of how morphology works. Words evolved and gather different meanings over time.No matter how much you seethe you won't stop it.
This is about semantics at this point.

And if you look at the historical precedent the "proper" way to name things will always lose out to what is popular.

>>14915653
What happens if an Italian in Italy makes carbonara with cream or peas? Address you suggesting that has never happened in the history of Italy?

>>14915877
That means he is not making carbonara.

>>14915881
What if the Italian in Italy calls it carbonara?

>>14915653
I dated a girl from italy that had only been in the states for a year and she made me a carbonara with Parmesan and bacon and wasn’t all autistic about it being exact specific ingredients. You’re just a faggot and so is anybody that cares

>>14915887
That means he is wrong.

>>14911184
Each village literally has it's own variation on the entire cuisine. It's no wonder that you can find any number of "chefs" to bitch about somebody's video. If you put those italian guys in the same room as each other, they'd end up killing each other over which side of the hill their favorite olive oil grove is on.

>>14916035
They almost already were, about the putting butter in the sauce thing.

>>14912379
Italian cuisine was created in New York City in the 19th century.

I don't care much for most food youtube channels. I make an exception for Laura Vitalie. I can't stand her voice, her food looks like shit, and she actively tries to kill people with her irresponsible outlook on food safety. HOWEVER, she has excellent mommy milkers.

The Martha Stewart criticism was completely warranted. Wtf is that abomination and why is everyone obsessed with making “one pot/pan” dishes. It’s even dumber than “no-bake” recipes

>>14911726
of their recipes I've tried at home
-aglio e olio and bolognese
always turn out amazing
-carbonara
ok, kinda like a breakfast pasta. I don't have guanciale of course.
-pesto and cacio e pepe
My ingredients weren't good enough for the pesto. idk that I'm a big enough pecorino fan for cacio.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE DIFFERENT SEASONING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
USE DIRT LIKE POOR OLD ITALY YOU FUCKING AMERICANS!!!!!!!!!

italians be like

For anyone else observing this thread and thinking I flew off the handle for no reason, let's break this down a bit. Why did this asshole leave this comment? To be an asshole. To say something insulting. To make himself feel big by making someone else feel small. Insults are common on the internet, but why I'm mad about this one is just how profoundly off-base it is, and how it perpetuates chefy elitist notions that I think harm people who are just trying to cook dinner for their families. You can cook something great on any kind of functional stove. All different types have their pros and cons. Restaurants traditionally prefer gas for a reason, but a lot of them are also migrating to ceramic induction for a reason (that will be the subject of Monday's video). Electric resistance coil is more popular in U.S. homes for a reason. It's cheap, lots of homes here dont have gas hook-ups, and the ceramic ones are a lot easier to clean, which is literally all i said in the video that prompted this guy to leave his shitty comment. I cleaned a bad mess on my stove, I remarked at how easy it was to clean, and said that glass-top stoves have their virtues (i.e. they're easy to clean). People cooking at home don't have to do what "chefs" do. In many cases, I think they SHOULDN'T do what chefs do. Professional chefs and people cooking at home have different needs. I'll urge you to read that Consumer Report article I linked to. A lot of things that people assume are better about gas actually arent better when you put them in head to head tests. One thing you can certainly say is that electric stoves generally put out more BTUs, which is why lots of recipes written by professional chefs using gas are often bad advice for people cooking at home on electric. I literally once saw Jamie Oliver advocate pre-heating a teflon pan on high heat for 20 minutes before searing a steak in it. If you did that on an electric burner, you melt the teflon and you'd certainly incinerate your steak.

>>14913128
cs_italy is a good map though

>>14915653
you don't even need to be italian to see the problems with all of the cooking though. boiled garlic? really?

>>14917329
Nothing wrong with boiling garlic. Besides the loss of.nutrients of course.

>>14909848
look at these fartsniffing assholes lol fuck italians and their bullshit cuisine. What a bunch of fucking losers lol

>>14917362
hi adam

>>14915653
>>14915888
I watched the carbonara video on that channel and they agreed that bacon and parmesan are fine because guanciale and pecorino are difficult to come by outside of italy.

>>14916305
Easy/less cleanup. It's not fucking rocket science.

>>14909872
They've been that way ever since the late summer of 1944, when it all went to shit for them and has remained so since.

>>14909848
Why do they get so mad when you break the pasta in half I do that every time?

There's literally nothing wrong with using butter to emulsify and add extra richness to a sauce.

However, everything else they said is pretty much spot on

>>14918446
Because it’s stupid.

It’s like buying a sweater and cutting the sleeves in half before wearing it, what’s the fucking point? Just buy a t shirt and you’re golden.

Buy short pasta for fucks sake: penne, orecchiette, maccheroni, mezze maniche, etc..

>>14915888
That's the problem.
For some reason you, like all the other americans cretins, cannot grasp the concept that not all variations are equal, some are tolerable, while others are not correct

You fucking retard never cease to amaze me

>>14909848
I think it would be nice if these 3 chefs said what was actually wrong, rather than just being like "He did it wrong, and its not right, and the taste is weird".

>>14918766
I think it would be nice if you read the entire thread before posting

>>14918766
Are you dumb? They explicitly say what's wrong almost everytime

>>14918785
>126 replies
no

>>14918855
> Americans don't want to read
What a shock.

Since you have a ape brain, just watch the video again, this time with a notebook and a pen

>>14918849
They don't actually. Most of the times its fairly obvious why what's portrayed is wrong, but when it isn't their commentary isn't a help. At the babish part they start talking about the history of rice or some shit to talk about how flavours shouldn't be mixed or something? I don't know if he's talking about the garlic mincing or the chili, or the tomato paste, or whatever the fuck

>>14918859
lol no, cope

>>14909942
lmao baste

>>14918865
> At the babish part they start talking about the history of rice or some shit to talk about how flavours shouldn't be mixed or something?
At the babish part they say pretty clearly
> he used too much garlic and onions
> he shouln't have used tomato paste
>he shouldn't have used butter

And then it summarize what's wrong in all the american cuisine
> they have a particular taste that they propose over and over
> and what babish made was not a "spaghetti al pomodoro" but some "spicy red american style tomato sauce" implying that he used too much shit for just a simple plate

I didn't made this up, it's in the fucking video, come on

>>14918865
>pasta al pomodoro
>chili and chopped garlic
>uazz vrong uit dat

It’s not aglio e olio Jesus Christ

>>14911726
hold the fuck on
this dude sits there with two italian chefs yucking it up at american cooks trying to make their precious carbonara, acting like he's one of the boys, and when it comes time for him to show off his version of carbonara, it's some edgy "avant garde" take on carbonara with a SINGLE PIECE OF PASTA, A SINGLE PIECE OF GUANCIALE, AND A FUCKING MEME FOAM OF PARMESAN AND PECORINO
FUCK THIS DUDE
THE OTHER TWO DUDES MADE RESPECTABLE CARBONARA AND THIS GUY HAS THE GODDAMN NERVE TO SERVE THIS HIPSTER NYC SHIT THAT YOU'D PAY $500/EGG FOR, AND HE'S THERE SHITTING ON JAMIE FUCKING OLIVER WHOSE UNFORGIVABLE SIN WAS ADDING TOO MUCH BLACK PEPPER, AND USING SOME GARLIC
FUCK THIS BALD ASSHOLE

>>14919030
>NERVE TO SERVE THIS HIPSTER NYC SHIT THAT YOU'D PAY $500/EGG FOR

That's an "amuse bouche" you uncultured swine
It's a welcoming **free appetizer**. He also said it in the video

>>14919054
MORE LIKE AMUSE DOUCHE
YOU SHIT ON THESE PEOPLE AND SERVE SOME SHIT IN A NEST
FUCK OFF

>>14919001
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrabbiata_sauce

>>14919101
> Arrabbiata_sauce = Pasta al pomodoro
uot did hee meen bai dis?

>>14919094
>MORE LIKE AMUSE DOUCHE
>Complaining about free sample
How fucking stupid are you?

>>14909848
gos I want to suck Giadas toes.

>>14919124
VERY, AND DRUNK
BUT THAT WON'T PUT HAIR ON THAT FUCK'S HEAD OR PROPER CARBONARA IN HIS NEST

>>14911703
yup really fucking based. I need to go to Italy after covid.

>>14912008
mmm
you are forgetting the most obnoxious autists of them all....the French

>>14915547
>when they think about fine quality pizza they think about italian pizza.
Good joke, Guido.

Man, if I were Adam I would probably kill myself after watching this.

>>14919187
I know, truth sometimes can be harsh, Tyrone

>>14919189
he did. suffocated his whole family with gas.

>>14919110
Just admit you don't know anything about Italian cuisine and we can move on.

>>14919189
There's no way he could figure out how to turn on the closed captions. He can pretend they're saying whatever he imagines.

>>14917520
why is that? do italian pigs grow different meat on them or something.

>>14918675
where's the short spaghetti?

>>14912316
I got you, anon

>>14919189
He’s probably studying Italian right now so he can clap back in the comment section

>>14911160
>it is a italian channel, every italian knows how to make a right variations of pasta with tomato
Lol its in fucking english you dumbass
Also, do you seriously believe that every italian can cook? Whats even the "right" way to cook tomato sauce? Are you fucking retarded anon?

lmao i've never seen a thread on /ck/ where ameriKKKans are so fucking assblasted. based italians putting mutts back to their place

Holy shit the american cope in this thread is unbelievable, imagine being this insecure

>>14920609
>>14920595
rent free

>>14920578
>Lol its in fucking english you dumbass
"Italia squisita" has english captions but it's an Italian channel you mongoloid.

>Also, do you seriously believe that every italian can cook?
Almost anyone can make a tomato sauce, something you grow up seeing and eating often in your life.

>Are you fucking retarded anon
No, but I'm not sure your parents are brother and sisters judging by the quality of your post

>assload of garlic in every recipe
Why are mutts so obsessed with it? Is american garlic extremely mild or do you just enjoy tasting nothing but it in every pasta dish?

Italian american food is unironically better and italian fags can't stop seething about it

>>14919132

>>14911362
>Even if they saw someone make spaghetti sauce 100% correctly, the way they themselves would do it, I guarantee they'd still find something to flip out over
Watch the lasagne ep, they seemed to like the one that Grandpa Kitchen made and they tore into Matty Matheson too.

>>14920612
have sex

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inLQtXvzLT8&t=7s

The superior Italian cuisine channel

>ITT: anally prolapsed food troglodytes
It's glorious.

>>14921307
Why are italians so fucking whiny?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HNZcibrfIA

>>14909942
stop busting mah bawls / 10

>>14921621
how is he wrong? i agree with him

>>14909942
Kek, italicuck BTFO

YouTube is a disease, a cancer of this planet.

>>14922096
found the italian

>>14918728
Autism

>>14921621
One time, I ordered spaghetti aglio e olio at this shitty Italian restaurant (it was actually linguine aglio e olio, but I made them substitute it). It had BUTTER in it. I very nearly fainted. I am not Italian.

>>14915599
>probably get the site in trouble
If the guy who posted pictures of the girl he strangled to death didn't do the site in, I don't think some guy following around some youtuber is going to do it.

>>14922112
he's right tho, you're not gonna deny it

>>14909942
How will Italy recover?

>>14912379
Lol we know you Italians are easy to offend so we’re taking the piss out of you, but go ahead and misconstrue what we say, your suffering pleases us

>>14913110
I mean he’s right, all you got are different shapes of dough

>>14922663
i'm baffled that you're proud of being ignorant

>>14909848

The dishonesty of Italians is beyond anything known to mankind.

Here's one of the judges using carrots and butter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27aAsz9XwxM

Here's a michelin starred italian chef charring his tomatoes like ragusea:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ1kuh0pZ_g

>>14912316
>subtle kys from world renowned italian chefs
I cannot wait for adam's utter meltdown

>>14911160
>Just because it exposes how bad the anglo race cooks.
Nothing makes anglo seethe more than not being able to steal other people culture
it's why they hate the French so much

>>14922739
>the exact same come nigger have over their lack of culture and history.
non anglos really aren't white are they?

>>14919030
You have to know how to do something right before you can do something wrong.

>>14919785
Guanciale is pork jowl that is then cured, but not smoked.
Its a cut of meat that is generally just made into sausage in the States.

>>14921057
Often American supermarket garlic can be fairly bland due to shipping times.
But given that most of these people are from large cities that shouldn't actually be an issue.

>>14915547
>when hipsters think about burnt flatbread with a pinch of cheese and two leaves on it
FTFY

>>14922693
See how those carrots are chopped up and milled into the mix?
Throwing a whole carrot in there doesn't do much if anything for the flavor.
See how little butter he's putting in compared to most of the videos featured?

Those are the differences.

>>14923268
>produce is fresher in major cities
Lol, nigga, what? It takes them most of a day just to get the food from the city limits to its destination.

>>14923281
You are being dishonest as fuck, as all Italians are. Watching the video you can see how much they seethed over the inclusion of carrot at all. Also how they wen't about shitting on the charred tomatoes.

>>14909848
As always based Chef Stefano Barbato has us covered.

https://youtu.be/1KdgTRGbclM

>>14923281
Did anyone actually ever put a whole carrot in sauce, though? I grate them finely and cook them down hard if put them in when making woo food.
Italians are up there with the french and mexicans when it comes to being retarded with their level of food policing.

>>14923302
wop food*

>>14923295
They were complaining about throwing a whole root on there without actually incorporating it into the sauce.
I haven't seen the other video, and I don't have time either so I can't address it.
>>14923302
A woman in the above video did basically that, threw it in there nearly whole and then fished it out later.

>>14915653
Carbonara isnt even traditional. The first carbonara were made with SPAM from GI's rations. Italians mystify cuisine too much

>>14923325
>They were complaining about throwing a whole root on there without actually incorporating it into the sauce.
>I haven't seen the other video,
.....

>>14923281
>DUNA YOA SEEAAAAA SENIORAA WHENZA WEYA DO EEETTTTT IT'ZAAA DIFERENZAAAAAY!!!!!

Are you retarded? Take some water, put some carrots, boil it and let me know if it tastes different. It's the same reason why people make stocks with carrots, onions, celery, but throw them all out when they are done. Because you get all the flavor without the added texture.

>>14922693
>https://youtu.be/1xFttqgiRyU?t=175s
To be fair, the first judge did sort of address his use of butter during the shitflinging. It's apparently "permitted" in pumarola, but they don't really expound upon why that is the case either.
They're heavily incentivized to shit on people in these kinds of video formats for ez views, I can understand that. But there is criticism without further explanation, which makes it feel insincere.

>>14909848
Italians who bitch about food deserve endless suffering.

>>14923379
The other video in reference to the Italian Chef charring his tomatoes.
>>14923380
Carrots are not a vegetable that gives off a ton of soluble flavor like onions.
Generally the flavor of the carrot stays inside the flesh.
You are not going to get much flavor at all from the whole pieces that are simmered and then removed diffused into the sauce.

>>14923404
it's an impulse to overcompensate due to feelings of insecurity and inferiority. at the first sign of trouble they would come crying to america to protect them because they'd rather live as welfare queens.

>>14923443
you disrespect other people's food culture because you dont have one yourself.
If you ordered a pizza marinara, wouldnt you think it's weird if you get a pizza with bacon, pineapple, peas, cheese?
Just name the dish something else, that's all.

>>14923469
wtf kind of strawman are you even inventing here? i was disrespecting them for being overcompensating baby dick faggots

>>14923435
>You are not going to get much flavor at all from the whole pieces that are simmered and then removed diffused into the sauce.

Yes you are dipshit, I made stock about a week ago and the carrots did exactly that. They gave the stock better color, sweetness, and earthiness. Also, what's hilarious is the lady they were making fun of actually fried them in the oil first to increase flavor extraction unlike the tomatonigger who just threw them in.

Stop lying.

>>14923485
>>14923443

The absolute cope, it is incredible.

>>14923469
Most those people weren't claiming to make anything authentic. Like if you order 'one pot pasta' and you don't get tomato sauce exactly the way that you half remember your grandma making it, eat shit.

>>14923469
You go into a video not made for people of our own culture, with dishes named similar to your but with not only different pronunciations but also different history, you shit on then unrelenting at every turn.
You then have the gall to claim the people doing those dishes, which have not claimed to be doing it "the Italian way" whatever the fuck that means are the ones being disrespectful?
grow a fucking skin you little weasily cunt.
Those are Italian american dishes, and that is what they are called, modified from their original by the migrants who came here, while keeping some of the same names thanks to those migrants.
You can shut the fuck up already, nobody is claiming they are your shitty poverty food.

>>14923404
He adds butter to both of the sauces he made. That's the problem with these people, they'll find an exception when they do it but when anyone else does it then they freakout.

>>14923234
I don't know how to fly a helicopter but I'm pretty sure I'd crash it.

>>14923496
yep it's totally not cope to have three faggot italian chefs make a youtube video to shit on homecooks lol

>>14923512
you typed this post with tears in your eyes lol

>>14923521
pretty sure only one crying like a little bitch is you

>>14923538
lmao ameripigs are so thin skinned

>>14923521
Whatever makes you cope enough to sleep at night. You clearly gave up on arguing because you know you are wrong.
But hey, if you ever feel like having some real good Italian food come to the US, in here you don't have to trow half a gallon of shitty pasta water on your sauce to make sure you don't starve for the rest of the week.

>>14923546
adam ragusea is not an ameripig

>>14923546
>MAMA MIA STOPE THE PUTTING BEBETIPBOPE ON THE BEBEDIBUPE!! HOWE A DARE YOU!!!
> NO GOOD!!! RESPECT MIA FOODE !!! HOW DARE YOU!! MAMA MIA!!!!
> YOU HAVE NO CULTURE?!?! THE POOR BEBETIBEPE!!!
>...I mean how can you be so think skinned bro... ahahaha...ha
Holy kek italins are a riot.

>>14923557
i'm not the same guy, you retard lmao, that's my first post in this thread and you're already fucking assblasted lmao

>>14923546
Waaaah someone didn’t like my tomato sauce and noodle dishes that I make every fucking time

>>14923586
so you just showed up to cry?

>>14923585
i'm not even Italian.
On the other hand you're a genuine, red blooded american retard

>>14923601
To make fun of your emotional and childish post, yes. now i'm farming (You)s

>I'M NOT THE SAME GUY YOU RETARD LMAO THAT'S MY FIRST POST IN THIS THREAD AND YOU'RE ALREADY FUCKING ASSBLASTED LMAO

>>14923613
uh yeah, farming that's it. stop crying and stop obsessing about america you just show how much of an insecure little bitch you are.

>>14923623
>uh yeah
holy shit lmao

>>14923613
>>14923602
Oh you just came in to pretend to be seething gotcha. kek.

>>14923642

>>14909942
Culinary autism

>>14923652
didn't you know being ironically stupid is a thing now?

>>14923652
>>14923665
>make fun of americans being retarded americans
>UR SEETHING KWEK

All of their criticism was spot on. These internet "chefs" are just amateurs playing pretend and it was absolutely embarrassing to see them get torn apart. The butter and garlic insults were great, I have no idea why people put so much fucking garlic in their dishes. It's disgusting.

>>14909848
>3:55
>immigration warps the traditional recipe
Bruh tomatoes are not even from Italy. Immigration and exploration gave you the staple ingredients to create said recipes.
Italians are such elitist faggots.
>13:00
What the fuck. Seriously, what the fuck.

adam seems like the kind of tard to unironically speak about cultural relativism being good and cultural appropriation being bad in the same argument

>>14923688
If you're cooking something for a long time, you need a lot of garlic or it's going to be all broken down by the time you eat.

>>14923652
To be fair ally eh world thinks american are the clowns of the world.
We too laugh about you in switzerland, desu

>>14923937
*all the world

>>14923937
>Lives rent free in your head
>controls the world economy maybe only losing to china
You joke because otherwise you would cry about how insignificant your countries are.

>>14923961
are you ok anon?

>>14923961
>control the worlds economy

We’re not talking about Israel anon

>>14909919
>only fastfood is allowed?
Yeah

>>14909942
Che cazzo hai detto di me, piccolina merda? Ti dico una cosa, mi sono laurato come uno dei primi nella mia classe negli Navy Seals, è ho fatto molte missione segrete contra Al-Quaeda, e ho piu di 300 morti confirmati. Sono entrenato come guerilla e sono il primo cecchino nelle intero forze armate degli Stati Uniti. Tu non sei niente per me, ma un altro bersaglio. Ti destruggero' con una precisione mai prima visto in questa terra, credemi. Pensi che puoi parlare quella merda sul internet? Pensa di nuovo, scopatore. In questo momento sto contattando la mia rete segreta attravero negli Stati Uniti and e la tua IP sta scoprendo il tuo indirizzo--preparati per una tempesta, verme. La tempesta che finira' quella tonta piccolina cosa cui tu chiama la tua vita. Sei piu morto, raggazzino. Io potrei essere in qualsiasi luogo, qualsiasi tempo, è posso ucciderti piu di sette cento modi, e questo è solamente con le mie mani. Non solo ho istruito in combattimento a mani nude, ho anche accesso al intero arsenale del Corpo Marino degli Stati Uniti and lo utilizzero' completamente per cancellare la tua essistenza miserabile fuori del continente, piccolino scopatore. Se avevi saputo cui vendetta del inferno ti aspettava' dopo del tuo "comico" commento, forse, non lo avresti detto. Ma non potesti, non facesti, ed adesso pagheresti il prezzo, fottuto idiota. Fare merda sul te e te ne annegherai. Sei fottuto morto, kiddo.

>>14909923
>Nobody cares
It teaches people not to trust the ecelebs. Not even Ramsey or Oliver.

>>14911728
>> Cutting garlic in different ways (crushed, minced, sliced, grated...) change the powerfulness since allicin is released by cutting the gralic.
>**You have no freedom on garlic cut, flow what the recipe says**
These statements are contradictory. The former states I can use less garlic and cut it more, or more garlic and cut it less.

this thread might cause ww3 because of the sheer seethe on both sides holy kek.

>>14924331
kek, that kind of was my intention when i posted this. I'm not even italian or american

>>14924323
>These statements are contradictory
How so?

They way garlic it's cut is the same you should use

can they come for Gordon Ramsey next

>>14924529
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inLQtXvzLT8

>>14924536
thanks

>>14924536
damn his daughter is a better chef

>>14924536
I discovered Vincenzo in a old super cringe video and forget about him.

But his new videos are kinda on spot and I actually like him now

>>14924781
his old videos suck yeah, i like the newer ones. Can't stand it when he put unrelated meme clips in all the time in the old videos

>>14921621
glad to see even gordon ramsay isn't above making a plate of sloppa

If people want to know how to get the best carbonara
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mcEUySwS1c

>>14921621
Because they think everybody is trying to make authentic Italian food. Nobody cares about it, and they're trying to make what they like.

>>14924831
authentic italian food is a ton better than ripoff italian food. it's simple and elegant.

>>14924822
>pepper
sloppa
t. italy

>>14924831
Because they call it "carbonara" which is a standard codified recipe.

There's no need to add "authentic".
I don't call a postman an "authentic postman" or a car an "authentic car"

>>14924841
That video is a golden mine. Too bad you troglodyte can't learn the science behind the carbonara

>>14924847
It's not standard though. If you're talking fettuccine alfredo, the standard in America is to make it with cream.
And for fucks sake the video in OP is "tomato sauce" which is insanely vague and ill defined.

>>14924847
dude i fucking love science too

>>14924864
> It's not standard though.
It is in the ingredient and variations.

> If you're talking fettuccine alfredo,
Fettuccine alfredo is a peculiar case, because it originated in Italy but 99% of the italian people don't know it or think is an american recipe.

> And for fucks sake the video in OP is "tomato sauce" which is insanely vague and ill defined.
No, tomato sauce means a specific recipe, that's why they all use spaghetti but you may pretened you mean as generic "tomato sauce" and it's kinda ok (although very dishonest)
But "carbonara", "ragu` alla bolognese", "amatriciana", etc refer to a specific recipe

>>14924865
>>>/Reddit/

>>14924920
>italians so fucking arrogant they think they have a patent on the term "tomato sauce"
I wish more people would make carbonara with cream and peas just to fucking spite you.

>>14924940
nyuggah what? pasta al pomodore (pasta with tomato) is an italian recipe and has a fairly fixed recipe. that's what the entire OP vid was about.
You can make whatever tomato sauce you want, but dont call it pasta al pomodore.

>>14924920
>No, tomato sauce means a specific recipe
It doesn't in English you piece of shit if you were speaking in your gobbledygook language I might give it to you.
When people speak English they aren't fucking referring to the same thing you fucker are. Same with pizza. you can fuck off if you think you can define what is or isn't pizza when the very concept of if it's actually from Italy is debatable.

>>14924949
>that's what the entire OP vid was about.

>>14924960
no that screenshot was debunked on snopes.com earlier

>>14924968
>resorts to shitposting
I'm going to make my next carbonara with cream. Fuck you.

>>14923268
No, it's because supermarket garlic is from China. Of course every food item from China is shit. California garlic is stronger and more expensive.

>>14924973
sure, it wont be a carbonara though

>>14925000
please show respect it's a trans-carbonara

>>14925011
i'm not opposed to that nomenclature

>>14925014
trans-carbonara is carbonara you cis-carbonara piece of shit

>>14925018
nice /pol/ bait

>>14924953
let me put it in terms you might understand.
imagine a bunch of people made youtube videos about making rye whiskey, except the mash less than 51% rye and it's not aged long enough and a bunch of random shit was added to it. being a proud burger you'd know there are legal definitions for rye whiskey and you might argue that what they've done is a fine way to make a grain alcohol, but it's not rye, and you'd be right. now imagine you have the same level of autism for food, and you get to where we are in this conversation. not every recipe has legal definitions for it like rye does, but a lot do (e.g. beer in germany, pizza margherita in italy). the other thing is, a lot of these dishes have so few ingredients if you add or change literally anything calling it the same recipe isn't really fair anymore because you've change anywhere from 25%-75% of the ingredients.

>>14925048
finally someone that gets it

>Ay tone, you see this? This fuckin guy put 2 egg whites in his carbonara insteada 3!! This fuckin asshole's gotta go!

>OOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>14925018
>>14925027
Illiterate piece of fuck he is referring to a stereo-isomer, a geometrical isomer observed in carbon organic compounds.

>>14925048
They do that though and wedon't care.

>>14909848
>italian chefs
Stopped reading there. Italians are a race of toddlers who are autistic about their food. Any other food ethnic or otherwise you can put your own spin onto a meal adding a different spice, changing up the cooking process slightly, substituting one type of noodle or grain for another and nobody gives a shit, but if you don't make Italian food exactly the right way Italians collectively shit their pants in anger.

>>14925064
now we're zusammen

>>14925074
because they care about their culinary heritage? you sound like a nihilistic toddler to me. not surprising from a mutt though

>>14909942
>>Be Italian
damn that's rough

>>14925096
how is getting assblasted on youtube over some homecooking videos caring about culinary heritage?

>>14909848
I'll give them this, and mark you, this is coming from an Ameriburger, that clip from Martha Stuart was fucking retarded tier cooking. What the fuck was she even making there?
Vegetable soup indeed.

>>14925070
anon people autistically debate about whether something should be classified as whiskey or whisky for this exact reason.

>>14925123
because they see people butchering their traditional recipes for millions to see. The fact you had to ask this just proves my point that you have no respect for their recipes

>>14925048
If someone of a different language used the term rye whisky to, as a borrowed word, as the Japanese often do with English, refer to something that is like you said, not 100 percent what the English definition of the world is I wold not give a fuck.
You and your compatriots are severely mentally ill.
Like it was said, stop assuming everyone is referring to "your" dishes, they are just using the words and the concepts to translate their own culinary dishes, many times because they have migrants from your country who brought those concepts an words in.

>>14925197
except i notice you spelled whiskey differently specifically to convey the information that it's not the same as rye whiskey. funny how that works huh.

>>14925184
In the technical definition of whisky, in the English language, If some Russian use whisky to refer to a rye bear with berries mixed in, they are free to do so, and it would be "Russian whisky" or "Berry whisky" from then on if the rest of the people decide to use it. While also not being "proper" whisky, or whisky at all.
Chicken Alfredo, as the name implies, fro example, is not the traditional Italian dish. It's the Americanized version. If someone says "the classic Italian chicken Alfredo" you can bitch otherwise you are just being autistic.

>>14918675
Except what pasta do I use for light tomato sauces? What do I use for alfredo?

>>14919054
Well, consider by bush nonplussed and relatively unamused, nimrod.

>>14925200
The Italian names are sometimes spelled differently and definitely pounced differently than in Italy.
I don't see what you point is.

>>14921621
They don't have a fucking lot "going" for them lately, so being turbo-autists about their food is one of their only outlets of asserting themselves in the modern world.
It's really just amusing more than anything.

>>14923310
Wet Old Pussy food?

>>14923469
Bitch, they put mayonaise and fucking CORN on pizza in asia. Get over yourselves.

>>14925223
>>14925213
the point is there's been a specific change to indicate that the product made is not the same as the product with the strictly understood definition. that change or distinction is all anyone is really arguing for when they say 'then don't call it carbonara.' i promise if you took your russian or berry whisky and called it rye whiskey, plenty of people would be equally autistic about the whole thing and why they should call it something different.

>>14925266
as king of america i give the russians permission to call it rye whiskey now and for eternity

Americans are fucking retarded, and I'm not even italian

>>14925300
lol are you salty that trump stopped giving visas to your shithole?

>>14924949
Adam's video where he made his tomato sauce is called "Roasted Tomato Sauce". There's no fucking mention of Pasta al Pomodore because he knows that's not what he's making. The shitters in OP's video then took it, pretended that was the case to make a boring low effort reaction video.

>>14925000
It will be to most people in burgerland, which outnumber italians.

>>14925331
Look, If at any time in my like I will look for being shot while in a school, die because I cannot afford medical treatments, become a fat diebetic analphabet on a scooter, being robbed by a black person and licking is boot I will run in your shithole country.

In the meanwhile, I have no interest in burgerland

>>14915423
So what's your alternative? Extinction? Because that's what you're gonna get. If Italians were ever going to start having babies again they'd have done it twenty years ago, but they didn't.

>>14925358
lol you so assblasted that's totally how america is like

>>14925433
> Yo so assblasted

>>14925463
yeah im actually crying. lol. stop obsessing about america it makes you look like a pathetic little bitch.

better pray trump doesn't pull out of nato because then all of a sudden you're not gonna have your healthcare and education subsidized by america's defense budget

>>14912379
Considering how tomatoes don't even come from Italy they kind of did.

>>14925471
> lol
> lol
It does sound like you are actually very mad

>>14909942
fucking kek

>>14912177
I want to put out his beady eyes with a red hot poker.

>>14917520
>The Carbonara Council has spoken!

>>14909942
Um... based department?

>watch another one of these videos
>they get pissed at somebody adding the juice of a quartered lemon to their pesto
lmao they are just the biggest autistic crybabies.

>>14909942
just experiment bro

>>14921057
Helps keep away Jewish vampires.

>>14927154
pesto doesnt have lemon juice in it