/ck/ - Food & Cooking

I'm rather fond of fuyu persimmons both for their taste and healthfulness. The early ones that are hard as a fucking rock are a no-go. Hachiya persimmons are best dried.

where are you people getting persimmons that don't taste like ash

>>15007251
Better question, where the fuck are you getting your persimmons?

endive and raddichio are a meme salad on the west coast

i've literally tried soaking them in vinegar and sugar and roasting them and they're still so ridiculously bitter
never do I ever want them in my food plz thx

>>15007197
I buy Korean dried persimmons, concentrates the flavor
Gotgam dried persimmons are tender, moist and have an almost jelly-like inside. They also have an intense, concentrated persimmon flavor.

>>15007197
Shut your mouth nigger, persimmons are my second favourite fruit after mandarins.

>>15007197
>don't bother trying because it is no life changing experience
What fruit, veggie, or food is? Persimmons are great, just cause you tried it at the wrong stage like an impatient faggot doesn't mean they are worthless.
>>15007251
Stop smoking.

>>15007289
>tastelets

people don't eat turnips or rutabagas anymore, and I think that's sad

Aubergines are never anything better than passable, and the rest of the time disgusting.

>>15007197
avocados are fucking worthless. they taste like soap.

>>15007520
>What fruit, veggie, or food is?
Your mom pussy deffo changed my overall perception of life

more than half of all apple cultivars are worse versions of a better cultivar than obsoletes the worse one. you know exactly which ones i am talking about so i will not elaborate.

>>15007289
i highly recommend stuffing endives with walnuts, blue cheese, and thickened balsamic vinegar. then you shall know their power

>>15007772
thank you for speaking the truth orangutan fren.

Although I don't get the soap taste, they just taste bland... and vaguely green to me.

>>15007262
Any supermarket, flyover

>>15007919
so..pretty much just making sure you don't taste the endive at all? wise.

>>15007197
green beans
peas
broccoli

>>15007532
Here in Norway/Northern Europe rutabaga is still a staple

all of them. all you need is meat.

>>15007945
That's exactly what avocados are - unsalted plant butter. Like all other fats they're fucking trash on their own (inb4 butthurt Italians waving their olive squeezins) but they boost the flavor of whatever you add them to.

>>15008302
based cro-magnon

>>15008303
>(inb4 butthurt Italians waving their olive squeezins)
we don't eat olive oil on its own my guy

>>15007769
I am sorry you have to live this way.

>>15007769
I feel bad for white people and their lack of eggplant recipes. I wonder what else they don't get to eat

>>15007289
Isnt ... the whole point the bitter aspect?

>>15008303
>he's never had good quality unfiltered first cold press EVOO.

It's like eating a spicy piece of bone marrow btw.

>>15008303

When you say unsalted plant butter you're making it sound like peanut butter is as gross as avocado.

Don't get me wrong, peanut butter is pretty low tier, but it does have flavor even when unsalted and pairs nicely with jelly, and can be used in a variety of ways.

With avocado you get guacamole and guacamole open faced sandwiches.

>>15007946
Flyover, here. I can get persimmons in my back yard or any decent sized stand of trees. Bet you don't even know how the seeds can tell you how the winter will be, lol.

This bullshit right here

Cauliflowers are shit.

So far this is just "I don't like X". As far as truly unnecessary vegetables go, I have never heard anyone able to explain why these even exist aside from as a vehicle for peanut butter (like, you know, a spoon)

>>15007197
A gay person who is braindead would be both a fruit and a vegetable. I think regardless who you are, if you're a vegetable, your body should be terminated

>>15009649
Celery is a god tier flavor to have in any sort of stock. Idk what it is but to me it’s a certain crisp and bright richness that really complements a lot of other veggies. To me its smell is almost the olfactory version of salt

>>15009649
They really amp up stuffings

>>15008910
isn't the point of salt to accentuate other flavors
>puts 1/4 cup salt in mac n cheese
>doesn't like it
???

>>15009115
Fuck you, fresh crisp broccoli is amazing

>>15008247
What are you, 5?

>>15009649
Celery, carrots, and onion are the three most important vegetables in Western cooking.

>>15009884
Carrots and onion have flavor and nutrition. Explain celery.

>>15009922
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirepoix_(cuisine)

Eggplants. They turn to mush and have 0 flavor.

I haven't had a single piece of fruit all year

Don't care for it

>>15010003
I didn't used to but lately I've tried stuffing my belly with fruit so there's no room in my belly to be drunk 10 hours a day it doesn't work but at least it feels like I'm trying

>>15009772
raw broccoli is disgusting bullshit. cooked is bretty gud.

>>15007422
These look like scrotums.

you should try persimmon jam
we have a tree out the back and make the jam every year
its quite nice desu

>>15007197
Filtered by persimmons. I can't imagine

>>15008851
*Smacks lips*

>>15007945
Sliced avocado with a little salt and pepper, and the flavor just explodes. I guess it's an acquired taste, but guac is always good.

persimmons are based though and OP is faggot.

>>15008838
What a waste of sadness. I eat deliciously every day, never having missed a disgusting aub after the last three times.

What food do you dislike? Maybe there are some common rules about what some people like vs don't like; "you like aubergine but hate X, whereas I like X but hate aubergine".

>>15009649
>celery and peanut butter
Revolting. Celery is great with butter-fried prawns.

>>15007197
This year I found a wild American Persimmon tree a couple miles from my house. The fruit are much smaller, maybe about an inch in diameter, but they taste surprisingly good - sweet, of course, but with a very unique fruity flavor on top of that. The closest thing I'd compare it to would be a good piece of bubble gum but it also has its own tones as well.
Store-bought persimmons are worthless, sweet mushfruits. Home-grown are pretty good, leagues better than a store-bought, but nothing I've had has ever outperformed that wild persimmon in flavor. I just wish I could share it with everyone instead of just saying "dude just find a wild one bro" but them's the facts.

>>15009922
Make stock at least once.

>>15010755

The problem with every persimmon tree I've ever experienced here in NC is that they will turn your mouth inside out with bitterness right up to that one day when they are deliciously ripe and then the next day they are rotten shit.

>>15010766
This. So many are so ignorant about the power of stock. I literally make stock constantly, 16/7, using veggies and bones. Enriches everything.

>>15007946
Never seen it in NoVa

>>15009649
Celery is a great addition to soup

>>15009657

>>15007772
I only ever use/eat avovados in guacamole.

>>15010931
oh man, remember when a half-brained woman's life was a matter of national discussion? we should've appreciated those times. I wish I spent it reading a book instead of paying any attention to that.

not my favorite fruit, but perfectly ripe straight from the tree persimmons can be really good

>>15007769
breaded deep fried eggplants or eggplant parmesan (aka the original italian parmesan) are fucking great

>>15010364
I’ve been laughing for 4 minutes over this

I've only eaten these in Animal Crossing.

>>15008851
True story here.
> Grandpa is stationed in France with the US Army after WW2
> Finishes tour and gets on a ship to come back to the US
> Standing on deck one evening he sees the cooks throw boxes full of eggplants over the side
> He asked why are you wasting food (he grew up during the depression and is still sensitive to that)
> Cooks respond that they don't know how to cook them
> At almost 91 he still has never eaten an eggplant

I'm going to cook some for him at Thanksgiving, I only heard this story in the past few months

>>15010993
I'd bet a sizeable amount that all the quality comes from the deep fry and none from the aubergine.

Source: deep fryer man

>>15007251
>>15007262
>>15009107
>>15010755
>>15010775
Just in case any of you persimmon fags don’t know, you’re supposed to eat them when they’re so ripe you can hardly pick them up without them falling apart.

Also, wild fruits are always better than cultivars because they haven’t be selective bred for highest available water content (it makes their weight bigger = more profits, pretty Jewish really because it makes plants take up more fresh water as well).

>>15007532
Man I love turnips

>>15011436
Adding on to this, the mouth-drying/puckering quality of an unripe persimmon is called 'astringency', not ashiness or bitterness as some anons said.

>>15011586
But it’s only if it’s completely not ripe, which makes you the equivalent of a retard trying to eat green oranges.

>>15007957
sorry about all the taste buds burnt off your tongue ala cigarettes

Persimmon ranges from firm with a mild flavor to mushy-sweet. Just because you fail to pick the proper ripeness doesn't mean it's a bad fruit. In fact it's excellent and very versatile, from eating it raw to caramelizing slices of it, as alternative to apple.

>>15008851
???
Italian and French cuisine makes great use of eggplants.

>>15009118
Yeah I can get behind that. I hate it on its own and I've never had the inclination to put it in anything. Broccoli is much more versatile.

>>15009649
Absolutely essential to Cajun cookery, great flavor to sauces and soups.

>>15010003
Does that include tomato? Also, I cook with figs a fair bit.

>>15007197
bell peppers/capsicums

>>15009649
I don't go out of my way to eat it raw but you have to be insane not to realize how good it is cooked into soups, stocks, sauces, stews, etc. It is great as a base.

>>15007772
this is the best answer in this thread

>>15013172
Your diet must be very boring.
-chili flakes in Italian dishes
-hot sauce
-cajun trinity
-Caribbean and Latin American foods
-SE Asian cuisines
The list goes on

>>15009118
I hate them boiled too, but pickled with onion, carrot, chile and oregano, are delicious and have a tender but very juicy texture.

>>15010931
Wouldn't it be really hilarious if someone in your life went into a comatose state?
You'd probably get really delicate about it, hahaha. Life's a bitch of a teacher.

>>15007251
Hmm... Do you eat the skin? The skin does have a sort of ash taste

>>15007197
When I was a little kid there was an open field right next to my house that had mulberry trees, wild cherry trees, blackberry bushes and a crapload of persimmon trees. I could never bring myself to like persimmons.

>>15009922
carrots and onions alone are both sweet. you need celery to balance the flavors.

yellow squash and zucchini are redundant

>>15007197
I like persimmon. We only get it around halloween and I suspect it's only because it has the orange pumpkin color. :(

>>15013465
no, i'm just not a nigger

>>15007769
>Aubergines
pompous faggot

>>15009115
Broccoli is hands down one of the best veggies

Celery has never made anything better and has only ruined things. Celery and peanut butter being pushed as a healthy snack as a kid just made me hate the people giving it to me. Now ranch and carrots as a "healthy" snack was fantastic.

>>15007289
either eat them raw leaf by leaf with a sauce, or cooked in bechamel and rolled in ham (you can put some cheese on top if you want)

>>15013656
Yellow squash can at least be stuffed. Zucchini blows mad dick

>>15013817
Carrots and ranch made me hate the people who served it to me.

>>15013656
filtered. Roasted yellow squash and zucchini, rubbed with olive oil and sprinkled with onion/garlic salt and pepper are based. Fire roasted zucchini/squash are double based. Yellow squash casserole might be triple based. Then there's ratatoullie...

>>15007769
Lotta filtering going on itt. Eggplant parm, eggplant parm sandwich, eggplant parm pizza, baba ganoush, ratatoulli...

>>15013817
>Celery has never made anything better
you have never cooked

any summer squash variety
meanwhile at least winter squash is pretty good

>>15013880
Irrelevant. I eat food. Not a single thing in the world has ever been better because of chunks of celery. If you want to argue about celery salt, then that is a not really the same thing.

ITT: "people" with bad taste

This shit right here is infuriating to eat. Has the texture of potato when cooked but less appealing to eat.

>>15014402
get off this board please. I hope youll find solace in Mcdonalds cheeseburgers.

bad bait 2/10 apply yourself

Traditional green radish is superceded by daikon.
I have never ate a slice of daikon and though "I wish it was green radish".
French radishes are okay.

>>15007197
fuck off they're common where I live during winter season and they're really nice.
>>15007251
baltics
>>15007772
they are like butter but you can cover them with lemon juice and they don't make you want to throw up when you put it on a toast.
burgerfats and their obsession with eating pure, raw butter everywhere is fucking disgusting.

>>15013790
Imagine actually being american

>>15013863
You proved my point. Zucc and yellow squash are wholly interchangeable, i.e. redundant.

>return to thread to find fags still vehemently shipping for celery without actually explaining what it supposedly adds to anything
lol just admit that you blindly follow recipes without actually thinking about what's in them

>>15007197
celery is useless. it doesn’t add shit to a mirepoix even

>>15015491
>celery tastes nice
>HURR EXPLAIN IT

>>15007203
>healthfulness
Not a real word

>>15007197
All of them

>>15009649
It’s a necessary component in veggie stocks. When you cook it down it adds a strong umami flavor giving soups and stews a richness that you won’t get from just onions or carrots

>>15015716
What people don't mention is that you can just outright buy powdered celery and not have to deal with cutting up those stringy pieces of shit.

>>15011196
Best way to do eggplant is to roast or grill them and then chop them roughly and cover with fresh minced garlic, oil, and wine vinegar

>>15015708
>healthfulness (uncountable), Noun
>The characteristic of being healthful, (Beneficial to bodily health.)

It's okay, even people fluent in English still have trouble with the language.
Persimmons are not "healthy"; they are dead pieces of fruit and no longer a part of a healthy living plant. However, persimmons are "healthful"; they contain significant amounts of vitamin C and potassium.

>>15015722
The texture is necessary for things like chicken noodle or minestrone

>>15015733
Healthfulness is not a real word in the sense that people who use it aren’t actually saying anything of substance. People will just call any plant “healthful” because they are ideologically committed to the idea that the healthiest foods are all plants and that all plants are healthy. It’s like people who say you need to eat “whole grain” bread vs white bread despite the two having virtually no substantive difference in nutritional content. They just decided white foods were bad and brown ones were better one day and said you should eat “brown rice” “whole wheat” “turbinado sugar” etc despite there being no scientific evidence behind the claims.
“Healthful” is a lot like “natural”. It is a word that is designed to make you feel a certain way about a food but doesn’t really mean anything. Go to the store and every package of chicken is “100% natural” as if there were some vendors out there selling “unnatural” chicken.

>>15015733
He's right, "healthful" is a classic cult lingo that's designed to sound plausible but which means a specific and nonsensical thing. It's a setup for a motte-and-bailey argument tactic. Any sane person would use "healthy".

>>15017200
based thread saver

>>15017200
Nah it's an old grammatical rule. Strictly speaking a "healthy" plant is one that has grown in good health--free of blight or whatever-- while a "healthful" plan is one that is beneficial for your health if you eat it.

Nobody uses it anymore because lol words are for nerds, but it's not a fake word by any means.

>>15017222
Yeah this. Technically, foods can only be "healthy" if they are alive and in good health at the time that they're consumed. Only a handful of foods can be accurately described as "healthy".

>>15007197
what the fuck OP im eating one right now whats the coincidence of that??