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>15
what a baby

>>15171656
>drink more than 2 beers after getting home from work every day for a week makes you a heavy drinker
fuck man, I'd call it maybe a habit or medium drinking, heavy drinking is drinking enough to get a hangover the next morning consistantly

>>15171692
What you call it is irrelevant. These are the NHS guidelines for drinking with the least long term damage.

>>15171656
>haha yeah imagine that

>>15171718
Shut up bitch.

>>15171656
I'm a heavy drinker on Fridays and Saturdays then. So what?

>>15171656
i don't have to imagine i've been drinking since i was 11 and don't plan on stopping

>>15171656
a younger friend solicited advice upon his graduation and one line he was given stuck with me, to paraphrase, "before graduation, 14 drinks a week is called undergrad, afterwards 14 drinks a week is called alcoholism"

>>15171718
>NHS
>UK
Pretty sure everyone in that country falls under this designation

>>15171679
That's 2 a day. What a fucking joke.

>>15171883
Yes, hence the guidelines.

>>15171844
You'll probably stop soon enough

>>15171656
What defines 1 drink? If I have a beer that's one, but if I have a zombie, made with a blend of different aged rums, which together add up to about 6oz of alcohol, 2oz of which is overproof? Is that still one drink?

I could drink a whole six pack of overly sweet ciders without realizing but I'd barely feel a buzz from just that, but then I could do 6 shots of tequila and get plastered.

>>15171940
"drink" in this context means 1 Standard Unit of alcohol. Standards actually vary by country, but they're generally in line with the WHO's definition of 10g of alcohol.

>>15171940
1 means 1 anon. That's why I drknk everclear for my health.

Celebrating the anniversary of prohibitions end with a Manhattan. I had 3 drinks prior to this so I'm on the precipice...

>>15171938
i had DTs a few times in a row but learned to how to better control myself (i now use opium in the daytime and only drink at night )which reall helps me maintain a sense of normalcy

>>15172061
Old fashioned this time so I guess I'm a heavy drinker. Darn.

>>15171878
What if you drink to make your social skills better?

>>15171656
So if I drink one big glass that contains the entire bottle then it's not heavy drinking?

guidelines like this are why people dont take alcoholism seriously. Health agencies trying to convince people who drink hardly anything they have a problem lowers the bar for what people think alcoholism is. You end up with fags drinking somewhat heavily thinking thats what alcoholism is. When I was actually addicted to booze I drank 20 a day minimum

I'm all for keeping poor and dumb people down with shit like alcohol and weed
They're much easier to keep from organizing or questioning things

>>15172668
have sex

>>15172595
>i-it's not REALLY a problem until you hit rock bottom!
You faggots make me sick.

>>15172079
how much did you drink. I've don't a 750mL of 40% a day...minimum. And quit cold turkey and still didn't get any physical withdrawal.

I've been drinking 12+ drinks a day for 13 years now. How much longer do I have?

>>15172865
a 750ml a day but i pulled it off for 7 years straight and before that i had been drinking for 10 year daily just not that hard.

>>15172875
about 3 years till kill

>>15172875
What's your life like?

>>15172875
Pretty much every alcoholic eventually goes back to the bottle. You might last days, weeks, maybe even years, but once you’re an alkie, you’re always an alkie. People don’t realize it as it’s happening, but you’re liver is probably fucked up beyond all repair. It happens quickly, and with much lower levels of alcohol intake than people realize. That’s why doctors say maximum three beers a week. Everyone thinks that’s way too low. That’s why most people fuck up their livers. After a certain point, no period of abstinence can bring it back. When you eventually go back to drinking you reward circuitry will make it even harder to stop. I assume you’ve done that several times, so you’re addiction is most likely cemented into your brain. Unfortunately, your alcoholism has also irreparably reduced your mental capacities and IQ, meaning it is also impossible for your to rewire your brain. You ability to learn has also been permanently fucked up. When you start drinking again, you’ll fall into old patterns and you’ll finish destroying your liver within a couple more years. After that you’ll be lying on your deathbed, unable to get a transplant because your damage was entirely self-inflicted.

>>15171656
>5 or more drinks on one occasion
What is a drink? What qualifies as an occasion?

>>15171656
>women
>7 drinks a week max
lmao imagine being a puny woman haha

>>15173757
>housewife pseudo-science.
Chill out and have a beer, m8.

>>15172756
I do, often

Sounds like a frat party in here.

Fucking losers competing over who's the biggest fucking loser.

Alcohol is the most normie retarded drug.
Its literally the worst drug.

Moderation.

UK guidelines. 14 units? Units are abv * litres. Thus a 330ml 3% beer is 0.99 units. I think we should resist this 'heavy drinking' definitions. Low, medium, high should be within context of average alcohol consumption not externally defined. At some point they could say ... hey anybody drinking more than 3 beers a week is now a heavy drinker. So then suddenly most people dying of almost anything get this "huh oh well what did you expect they were after all a heavy drinker". It transfers obligation onto individual.

Personally I like to feel a drink and I like to drink, but not every day. I'll go a day or two without drinking and then have two or three strong drinks. Sometimes I'll get a bit wasted, like 5 drinks on a Saturday night. I guess the issue is 'feeling a drink' usually means 6-10 units in one go so I'm likely drinking 18-30 units a week.

Basically severe alcoholic liver disease is often linked to drinking 20-40 grams of ethanol a day for women, or 40 to 80 grams for men, over 10 to 12 years.

2 pints at 4% puts you there. Sad face.

>>15171656
idk what a drink is defined as, but I drink 300 ml vodka every night. Is that a lot?

>>15176006
>It transfers obligation onto individual.
europeons think they're not responsible for themselves.

>>15176077
>Is that a lot?
no, it's the correct amount

>>15176102
Maybe I didn't explain it correctly.

At the moment most people who haven't had a direct experience with alcohol related health problems would not consider a couple of weak beers a day to be classed as heavy drinking.

Put within context of the behaviour of the majority this level of drinking is for better or worse incredibly common. It would seem unreasonable to label it heavy drinking and maybe would work against the goal of reducing the harms of alcohol consumption.

Most of us know heavy drinkers and it doesn't look like two weak beers a day. Maybe it would be better to discuss the level of incidence amongst different rates of alcohol consumption.

From what I gather studies show 224ml of vodka/whisky/gin per day for 20 years show 50% incidence of cirrhosis. 3.5 pints a day @ 4% abv for 20 years is 50% chance of cirrhosis. Yes that by any definition sounds like heavy drinking to me.

Enjoying a couple of weak beers after work most nights. Developed liver problems. Most would see that as unfair/unexpected/unfortunately. But if you label it heavy drinking suddenly it was their fault.

Imagine if they said that for every 50g meat consumed daily increased your risk of cancer by 18% and suddenly when you or somebody you cared for developed cancer people said "well, you know they were a heavy meat consumer after all what do you expect".

Eating 4oz of meat a day and getting ass cancer is still unfortunate and not something that the individual should shoulder entirely.

>>15176208
while i agree with you, your reddit spacing forces me to shitpost

>>15171656
What kind of fucking measure is one drink ? What kind of retarded guideline is that ?!
Give me Volume and % per time period you feet measuring retard

>>15171656
haha imagine drinking that much, on a regular basis lol......

>>15176287
It obviously means standard units

>>15172845
it makes mountains out of ant hills for people with slight problems who believe they already have alcoholism. When i would binge drink almost everyday my senior year of highschool I thought hey this isnt that bad I can be drunk all the time and the slight problems will be as bad as it gets. Then a year later you find yourself smacked with withdrawals you quickly realize how fucked you are and how easy it would have been to quit before

>>15176314
now that's a boomer i can get behind...if you know what i mean

>>15176287
>What kind of fucking measure is one drink ?
Are you drunk?
>>15171987

>>15176367
>When i would binge drink almost everyday my senior year of highschool I thought hey this isnt that bad I can be drunk all the time and the slight problems will be as bad as it gets. Then a year later you find yourself smacked with withdrawals you quickly realize how fucked you are and how easy it would have been to quit before
Yes now imagine you had a guideline that you could compare to and see just how fucked your drinking habit was

>>15171656
or 15 or more drinks over the course of one day

AQHAHAHHA

>>15171656
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>>15176461
You will never be a real woman

>>15176367
Alcoholism is a mofo. I went through a bad period of it from 20 - 27. Did a lot of bad shit, ruined many relationships - some won't even talk to me anymore. Some people really cannot and should not drink the devils piss water.

imagine not drinking a six pack a day

>>15173757
You sound like a stupid faggot and have no idea what you're on about.

>>15173757
lol someone has a chip on their shoulder

everyone's tolerance and liver capacity is different. there are people who drink heavily for 30+ years, it's entirely dependent on a ton of factors and your diet, age, and so forth.

that being said, it's one of the deepest holes you can dig, but if you can find a way to occupy your time and find a life worth living, you can beat it.

also, a lot of people with liver damage can live relatively normal lives if they don't drink again.

>>15171844
Evan williams is truly the taste of resignation. Next comes 4 loco

>>15172079
DTs fuckin blow. Ever had that thing where you're in a dream within a dream within a dream? I've had episodes where I get halfway through my work day only to realize I'm still fucking dreaming.

>>15177381
wtf are you talking about? it gets much worse than Evan Williams, it may be cheap but its still kentucky straight bourbon whiskey

>>15171656

imagine your wife of 5 years coming out as gay at the end of 2020 and leaving you two weeks before your birthday, weeks after you lose your job, and 2 months after you sign an expensive as fuck lease.

im not even counting my drinks at this point

>>15177452
Yikes. Hang in there bub

>>15177452
Serves you right for making some shitty decisions. Who signs a lease without a job

>>15177487
thanks man
>>15177496
not sure how you got that timeline, but for sure.

>Not making your own alcohol and drinking every day
Plebs, watch me speedrun my way to the grave.

>>15177452
your wife came out as gay....

i'm trying not to laugh, sorry anon