/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>15546135
Yes.
No different than collecting leftover bacon grease and letting it solidify to use again. If you ever cook a few wagyu steaks you should save the fat from the pan.

>>15546135
Put in water wit salt and boil for 10 hours stirring ocasionally. You may need to add additional water. Eat the flesh with a hard spirit. Conserve the rendered fat.

I looked it up, and ah fuck it's a process huh? You need to cook those things for hours maybe in a slowcooker and then strain them.
Well no too bad, I guess. I should buy some cubes of fat from a butcher

>>15546135
Just get beef tallow.

>>15546135
Render with water

>>15546196
it may take some time but it is super easy. chop it to very small pieces, put it on a pan on low heat (water is optional) and just let it render for 2 hours or more, it depends on the amount of fat you have

>>15546168
How fucking poor are you?

>>15546196
Yes. This is obviously not for you. Just throw it out to the birds and get some inflammatory seed oil instead

>>15546135
> Do you just plop it into a pan and wait for it to melt?
Yes, then strain the oil. It's pretty simple. Doesn't make much of a difference for searing. You should use it for savory pastries.

>>15546327
>>15546168
What does the water do? Don't I want pure animal fat from this?
I'll remember to try the left over flesh too.
>>15546289
More expensive. I already got a slow cooker, I wanna try it in my slow cooker since I hardly use it at all

>>15546447
Does fat mix with water??
Dork

>>15546416
Yeah. This shit is for NEETs. I work for a hedge fund. Cooking isn't my fucking hobby.

>>15546553
You sound pretty fucking lazy desu

>>15546553
then why did you buy fucking suet? lol

>oil is supposed to be better for you than another oil
stop reading meme shit

>>15546549
>Dork
Rude.

>>15546135
>It's supposed to be better for you than oil
I really don't think this is the case

>>15546602
Not that OP actually knows since he sounds like a lazy retard, but seed oil, as mentioned above by that other anon, will fuck you up over time. Not sure why you'd assume all fats are the same when there are clear examples of this not being true - see: omega 3's in fish oil.

>"seed oil" is now unhealthy
you people are ridiculous

>>15546643
Polyunsaturated oils are unhealthy

>>15546686
Yep. Information isn't very hard to find either. Additionally, seed oils tend to be hydrogenated which forms trans fats and fucks you up too.

>>15546327
This is the correct answer.

>>15546135
Put it on a mild oven for a couple hours until it's all melted down
Strain
Wa la

>>15546447
The water helps it render. It heats up and dissolves the structure slowly without scorching. After cooking it will have evaporated and you have just the fat.

>>15546700
Want to post a source, buddy? Because Harvard, the Mayo Clinic and the NHS all say that polyunsaturated fats have numerous health benefits and none of them mention this.

>>15546151
I always just make eggs right after the steak lmao

>>15546700
this is definitely "real" "science"
oh wait no it's just soccer mom nutritional conspiracy theories
"yOuR cElLs WiLl OxIdIzE FaStEr"

>>15547410
lmao

test

>>15547047

Not the guy, but it's always something seeing mongs like you who haven't any kind of understanding about how nutrition works (or how peer reviews studies are written) ask for citations. If you had any idea you'd realize that, sure, polyunsaturated fatty acids are essential, but so is keeping an adequate ratio of them. You'd also know that omega-6 fatty acids are inflammatory, which is by itself useful as inflammation is the way the body fends of infections, but an excess of them ends up leading to chronic inflammation and desease. If you've ever seen the nutritional profile for vegetable oils you'd know the excessive amount of omega-6s they have. You could counter this by increasing omega-3 consumption, except that the vegetable products don't have omega-3, they have ALA, which is something our body can transform into omega-3s, at about a 5% rate. Compare the o3 to the o6 amounts in vegetables oils, nuts and seeds and you'll see why this is a problem.

Besides, anecdotically, we can see that in spite of shifting from lard/tallow to vegetables oil and reduced fat products, obesity, cancer and heart disease have not only not been reduced, but have been quickly increasing by the decades. Clearly using animals fats was not the issue. I'm not saying you should mainline a pound of lard, but understand that nutrition goes beyond "good" or "bad" foods, and the combination of frying in polyunsaturated fats with refined carbs (or flat out sugar) will absolutely give you a heart attack.

>>15547424
>"yOuR cElLs WiLl OxIdIzE FaStEr"
its the dumb dumb way of saying double bonds can break forming free radicals which are very reactive and damaging. oxygen gas is a double free radical, not the same but in the same ball park

>>15547047
eating is not the same as cooking in

>>15546135
just deep fry a whole brisket in wagyu fat bro

>>15547503
>lmao
lmao

>>15547519
Welcome back. Now go post another racist slur on the one board that bans you for it idiot.

>>15548226
Nah, someone on my company computer network got banned for being an "Idiot Pedophile" with no link to a specific post or board so I was seeing if it was network wide or if I just got assigned an unlucky IP address. It was the latter.

>>15546196
You don't have to buy them, just call and ask if they have leaf fat for making lard. They won't so they might offer to give you as much other fat as you want. Show up, tell them how big a crockpot you have and ask for that much fat. They'll bring out a big bag of trimmings that they make hamburger out of and give you how much ever you want since they probably throw out who knows how much each day. Sort through the trimmings, scavage as much meat as possible for stew meat, chop and toss in the crock pot. Maybe repeat again with a little water.

I work at a butcher shop and I take home beef fat, bacon fat, pork fat, and prosciutto fat all the time to render into usable grease. it's good stuff and smells a lot better cooking than plant oils IMO. a little bacon fat in a salad dressing also eliminates any need for bacon bits

>>15548418
Frugal, I like, but over here they'll probably ask for money. Not that it'd stop me, since I'm really curious about trying making it all at home

>>15546447
The flesh is a top tier snack with vodka or rakia or any hard spirit desu. The fat from it films the stomach lining so you get drunk slower and get sober slower which makes for a better time and keeps your brain healthier.

>>15548505
Shame I stopped drinking. It sounds good. Can't I just eat those with a lot of juicy vegg?

>>15546151
Shit I've always just dumped the extra fat from all the wagyu steaks I regularly eat

>>15548648
shit fuck cunt dude. same

>>15548072
That’s a nice wall of text but you still failed to cite your original bullshit

>>15546700
>seed oils tend to be hydrogenated
Not intentionally.

High temperature deodorization forms some transfats unintentionally among other things, but all industrially produced lard/tallow is also high temperature deodorized.

>>15548628
Yes, you can but honestly it's time to start drinking again ;)

>>15548950
Yeah I honestly miss it, but I bloated up 55Ibs in only a couple of months from too much beer and ice cream. Trying to unfuck my situation

>>15546135
Just fill your deep fryer with it and make fries and croquettes with it

>>15546196
You could also just crisp them up a little and eat them like that, delicious

>>15549424
If it's anything like the fat on a steak, I'll pass. That stuff is like meat chewing gum and not in a good way

>>15548890
Not bullshit. Some obvious things don't need citations. Want some citations for me saying the sky is blue?

>>15549420
Don't need to render it or anything? Damn that's pretty awesome

>>15546135
> What is "rendering"?

>>15546414
are you retarded?

>>15548072
not the guy but whats the solution then? Cut out most or all seed oils? Switch to animal fats? is MCT actually good or still bad because it comes from coconut? What's a good ratio of plant to animal fats is what I really want to know

>>15549607
>but whats the solution then?
Eat a variety of non-processed food and don't be a fat fuck. Food-related health scares/trends/broscience are created to push products and it's always funny to watch the tubby, alcoholic retards of /ck/ eat it up.

>>15549953
I was talking fats/oils specifically. 50/50 on animal vs plant oils or what?

>>15550301
Just use oil that recipes call for and don't let your fats get rancid. The quality of nutrition research is abysmal, and there's a lot of money to be made on health trends, so it's better just to tune it out, with exceptions made to extremely well-demonstrated phenomena (e.g. olive oil is good for your health, legumes are good for your health, refined sugars are bad for your health)

>>15546564
I want to taste her butthole

>>15546196
Only if you want it pure. With occasional bits of meat it'll still cook fine, just not last as long.
>>15546135
You can just collect drippings cooking fatty pieces like belly, etc. Same process as bacon drippings. Nice high-temperature cooking fat with a strong beef flavor, as you'd figure.

>>15546135
>It's supposed to be better for you than oil
the fuck? beef tallow is fine too, but there's nothing wrong with using cooking oil, only gay homo autist pseuds push that myth.

they claim it's because polyunsaturated fats cause cancer or some other bullshit, but the whole point of PUFA is that it's a cold temperature storage form. Guess what climate European people evolved in?

Now think of all the saturated plant fats. Coconuts, Palm nuts, Cacao butter, shea nuts, and shit like that. Literally all of them grow in tropical shitskin climates.

Northern people are adapted for polyunsaturated fat. We literally convert less of it into arachidonic acid, meaning we actually require more from our diets than shitskins do. If we don't get enough we run into fertility problems and lack of muscle.

Shitskins actually produce much more arachidonic acid because they're evolved for easy tropical climates where PUFAs hardly exist, only carbohydrates and saturated fats.

Northerners evolved for saturated fats AND polyunsaturated fats, do you think we never ate pecans, walnuts, acorns, and other wild seeds and nuts?

>>15552116
I should mention that even though shitskins convert more linoleic PUFA into arachidonic, this comes at the cost that too much arachidonic is inflammatory.

unironically the only people who could benefit from reducing PUFAs are tropical adapted shitskins, maybe chinks idk. But certainly not Europeans and other cold adapted people.

if you're worried about estrogenic shit just avoid the soi bean oil in particular.

>>15546686
>Polyunsaturated oils are unhealthy
yes, if you're a shitskin.
cold-adapted people are fine with polyunsaturated oils, and even require them to some extent. you might as well become a vegan if you don't want to eat our natural ancestral diet.

>>15546700
>Additionally, seed oils tend to be hydrogenated
This is completely false, nigger. If they were hydrogenated they wouldn't be polyunsaturated.

hydrogenated means the fat turns into saturated fat (sometimes improperly, aka trans fat)

>>15552116
>>15552127
>reddit formatting
>cringe "opinion"

Made me respond/10

>>15546634
literally every fucking seed, nut, and kernel, especially from cold-temperate climates like Europe, is polyunsaturated.

I don't know where the fuck your mystery meat mutt ancestors came from, but mine come straight from Germany and England, so I've got no problems eating cold-adapted polyunsaturated fats. If you're a shitskin, well tough luck, might wanna avoid the milk too lest you get gassy. Oh and watch out for that stop and frisk.

>>15546419
I know I tried to make pastries with goose fat. It was pretty delicious

Avoid trans and monounsaturated fat because it's hard to break it down into usable energy so it just builds up
Eat some polyunsaturated fat
Eat some saturated fat too
Don't overdose on fat in general but don't deprive yourself either
Simple as
Also cooking with olive oil is fine on low heat just don't burn it

I will snort bacon grease with my asshole and there is nothing you dicksniffers can do about it.

>>15553218
Can I film it

>>15546553
>Cooking isn't my fucking hobby.
Welcome to /ck/, the fast food, booze and Starbucks board.

>>15546135
Rendering fat is easy, same for chicken, pork and beef.
Put the solid fat in water, simmer, stir it to make sure it doesn't burn. After the pieces start deep frying in their own fat. I only eat the pork cracklins, but they are extremely tasty.
Lard (pork fat) is by far my favourite. You can even use it instead of butter for baking pastries, makes everything extra flaky.

>>15549501
No, unless there are pieces of meat still on it

>>15552116
Are all racists as retarded as you are?

>>15546196
Wow. 2 simple steps. What a process

>>15548072
>You'd also know that omega-6 fatty acids are inflammatory
If you don't include fat fucks into the studies it all disappears ... the fatter the fuck, the more omega 6, the more inflammation. Correlation, not causation.

The only way to get significant DHA/EPA is from fish. Vegans do not have lower serum values than meat eaters.

>>15553815
No, they're actually mostly smarter than him. Given he's giving a breakdown of how various fats affect various gene groups, it's therefore safe to assume the average racist is quite intelligent and well-educated.

>>15548216
lmao

>>15553758
What do you use for rendering chicken fat? Do you use the white yuckies you trim off before cooking or do you simmer the skin?

>>15546414
are only poor people allowed to use actual cooking technique? fuck off tard

>>15554925
you keep avoiding the issue, shekelberg. Here are two facts:

1) polyunsaturated fats evolved in cold climates, in order to be liquid during frost conditions. If nuts and seeds were full of saturated solid fat, the fat would freeze over and kill the seed.

2) European men evolved in harsh cold climates. Guess what we were eating? Correct, NOT coconuts, NOT cacao butter, and not even olives for the purest Natives among us (celts/germanics/slavs). We were eating polyunsaturated seeds, in addition to a meat/fatty fish based diet

Given that polyunsaturates evolved in cold climate plants, and given that I am a European man who evolved in a cold climate, how is it that my ancestral foods are suddenly toxic and illness-inducing?

The answer is that they aren't and you are probably a shitskin or have shitskin genes swimming in your family tree.

>>15553815
>muh racists
youre a long way from plebbit anon, might I suggest you go back?

>>15553815
found the chicken nugget scoon

>>15557612
trump lost, so actually you should n egoing back. I hope the last 4 years were fun, its never gonna happen again

Substituting polyunsaturated fats for saturated fats out of a health concern is retarded. Beef/chicken/pork/duck/whatever fats are delicious. And should definitely be used in cooking for its flavor. But don't kid yourself, of course they are bad for you. That's literally biology 101.

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>>15552156
>>15553183

>>15547047
>omega
>beginning
reeeeeee, fucking biologists

>>15559057
substituting saturated fats for polyunsaturated fats out of a health concern is also retarded.

>>15546553
>cooking is not my hobby
fuck off then

>>15548072
>>15546700
retard hours

>>15546397
Ive found blitzing it in a food processor works the best, ya get really high yield.

>>15546135
It's fucking delicious. Made some a while back and am just getting around to trying it. Made a quick gravy with fat, onion/garlic, chickpea flour and chicken broth, can't wait to do it again maybe with some mushroom and pour on any free real estate I come across