/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Latinos use lard all the damn time

>>15727760

People were brainwashed into thinking seed oils are fit for human consumption.

>>15727760
Northern and central French food includes animal fats because it's better pasture land. Southern France is a medeteranian diet so uses mainly olive oil.
Everyone uses butter where they can because it's the tastiest thing ever conceived

>>15727760
its disgusting to even thing of using it
and im not even evege

>>15727760
Eastern Europeans use lard a whole lot and I think other parts of the world are still largely using animal fats - it's very common in traditional recipes, seed oil wasn't that common until the 19th century.
>propaganda
Not really but animal fats and butter got shat on during the war on cholesterol and the resultant popular opinion is that you're gonna have a heart attack as soon as you eat a teaspoon of lard.

>>15727760
It's the fucking vegetarians man. Shortcrust pastry is infinitely better when made with lard rather than butter.

>>15727760
>Inb4 actual reason
Nice way to start a thread anon.

Last saturday I used tallow for the first time, for making french fries; as opposed to frying oil.
Aside from using the right potato (agria), they were definitely the best french fries I made at home.

>>15727770
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>>15728636
If you eat lard youre literally obese

>>15727760
>the french don't cook with animal fats
wut?

>>15727760
butter is animal fat retard

>>15727786
Butter is for retards if you dont clarify it. Milks burn point is like 80degrees

They are used a lot but the reason vegetable fats are also used is simply cost. Animal fats are cheap but veg fats are dirt cheap.

That's it. With a topping of muh health concerns and inclusivity of vegetarians

>>15728654
my bmi is like....22....

>>15728815

Unclarified butter is useful for temp control and you need the milk solids for delicious noisette. Obviously you don't use it alone as a cooking fat at high temps.

>>15727760
I use lard when I deep fry anything.

>>15728869
based crispy fries

>>15728854
Do they charge you for 2 seats on the plane?

>>15728854
Lose weight, tubbagoo

>>15728869
Do you just shave it off your ass?

>>15727760
Because I don't want animal smell in my pastries and cakes.
They're perfectly fine for savoury cooking though.

>>15729044
What about butter dumbass?
Or lardy cakes for that matter.

>>15728654
yet somehow, submerging your shit in a literal gallon of sunflower oil or sticking an entire brick of butter in a dough is no biggie diet stuff because it's not the evil piggy butter, right? you retard

>>15729044
donuts fried in lard are god like

>>15729044
You think using lard will make your pastries smell like animals?

>>15727760
>inb4 the real answer
your post sucks

>>15727763
Yes, pic related

>>15727770
Trips of truth.

>>15727760
Northern France uses a lot of lard.
Southern France uses duck fat

>Why are animal fats so rarely used in cooking?
What?
It's basically 50/50 in many parts of Europe.

>>15728864
For noisette you put the butter on top and let it melt then flip it over to let the milk burn on the steak. You dont start with butter. You can also move the steak to the oven for a few min to also let it cook from the inside while the meat absorbs thr butter

butter is an animal fat you fucking moron

>>15729502
You do know steak isn't the only time people eat beurre noisette right? And your cooking explanation is just not correct

I'm so sick of people who learnt to cook from reddit

>>15729044
Given the state of this board, this idiot may have very well written this unironically.

>>15727770
This. I use butter, olive oil, or bacon fat. Nothing else. Toasted sesame oil for flavor on some dishes I guess

Ironically most "lardasses" never actually have lard as part of their diet, their fats come from refined seed oils. I would love if fast food places made their fries with tallow, but instead it's just cancerous cottonseed oil.

>>15727760
If you read Escoffier's guide culinaire you'll see that he defines mirepoix as carrots, onions and pancetta. And lots of French recipes rely on animal fats.

>>15729506
Butter is life.

>>15729261
>lard will make your pastries smell like animals
I does if you render your own lard from scrap. Commercial lard is always marketed as white, that is, highly purified.
Personally, I don't think an apple pie that has a whiff of chicharon about it is weird, but I doubt that's a majority view.

>>15727760
butter and lard is high tier. There was unironically propaganda against fats in diets, that's it. Now we use other cooking fats because of cheapness. Embrace tradition anon

>>15727760
its more common than you would think, its pretty much the number 1 ingredient in gravy, and ive been spreading chicken fat on my toast in the morning for a while now

I went to some stupid pricey restraunt when i was 10/10 drunk and some mexican made me pulled pork fried in its own fat and i was blacked out but i still remember it being kino as fuuuck. I later got kicked out of the restraunt for being too loud but fuck them i spent like 300 bucks there. I guess fancy restraunts arent good places to get smashed

>>15728815
only retards refuse to eat butter unless they are frying things in it

>>15727760
It's because some rich kike named Phil Sokolof had a heart attack and decided to make it everybody else's problem too.

Is there a way to render chicken fat that makes it not gross?
I like getting whole chickens and I like tallow and lard but not having a good use for the skin is bothering me

>>15731726
>good use for the skin
Make cracklings out of it. Use as seasoning.

>>15727760
Animal fat goes rancid without additives, and corn and soybean is a Federally subsidized product.

>>15731751
>animal fat goes rancid

lol what

>>15727760
>new bad
>old good

The thread.

>>15727760
Corn and soy are subsidized to extreme cheapness and americans love cheap

It was probably compounded by the food industry and FDA pushing industrial nonfoods like margarine in the 50s-60s, this erased what little food tradition that still existed in the US leaving the populace open to all manner of fad diets and corporate manipulation

>>15729044
>t. never cooked with lard in his life

You might as well say that vegetable shortening makes your food smell like vegetables.

>>15727760
because of media propaganda

>>15727760
I've got a jar of beef tallow from the store, a mason jar of goose fat, couple cups of turkey fat in the fridge, some lard, shortening, butter, canola, and sometimes I save my pork fat if I got it.

It's nice to have a little variety on deck.

>>15732280
Not him, but I sometimes cook with lard and it does, indeed have a smell of its own.

You guys who are getting on that Anon’s dick either have never cooked with lard or have impaired sense of smell.

>>15728654
odd because the obesity problem didn't start until everybody switched over to vegetable oils

>>15732367
And started eating mass quantities of industrial farmed meat

>>15729363
>Trips of truth.
that's not how it works newfren

>>15731726
Just buy the jew bottle of it

>>15732378
>And started eating mass quantities of industrial farmed meat
America always had mass farmed meat, pic related is from 1890's

>>15727760
What are you on about
Animal fats are the main event in any resteraunt, people perfect the use of this in any recipe. People even cheat with it which is obvious.
What are you on about?

>>15731726
What do you mean? I render chicken fat from whole chicken a lot and it’s never gross. Let the skin cook down in the fat until it turns into cracklins then strain the fat.

>>15728654
Pig lard is the healthiest fat available for human consumption

I started using animal fats after reading how bad seed oils are and all my food is more delicious now. I got duck fat and lard for all my cooking and it's great.

Where do pumpkin seed, coconut, walnut, maize or other oils rank?

>>15727760
Whatre you on about m8? Tallow, and suet are widely used. I use to use crisco or lard all the time.
Are you just retarded or somethin?

>>15733926
Crisco is not made of animal fat

>>15727760
I'd guess it's because traditionally animal fats we're harder to get in large quantities. People used to eat way less meat and slaughtering an animal for food would happen once or twice a year, so you would get very little fat from that (most fat would be in/with the meat and no one would waste meat just to render the fat out).

On the other hand, you could grow plants in abundance specifically for oil, like olives or sunflowers.

Animal fats are great for cooking with, way better than plant fats in most situations. I use lard and tallow quite frequently; I'm tempted to start experimenting with goose fat. My 95yo German grandma-in-law has a giant jar of goose fat in her kitchen that she uses for practically everything, she swears by it. I doubt I'll ever match her cooking though, everything she makes is cooked in a pot made from an old stahlhelm.

>>15727760
It's a carry over from the depression and WWII rationing. A generation of women learned how to cook with margarine and peanut oil and their children grew up thinking that's how food should to taste.

>>15733998
Where the shit does one even find goose fat? I've never seen it on shelves even though duck fat is even available at Walmart these days.

>>15734027
I have no fucking idea but she's got a giant jar of the stuff that seems to never run empty.

I'd ask her but she lives several hundred miles away and her english skills are dubious at best as she's gotten older.

>>15734027
bought a goose at walmart last christmas for a few jacksons
the goose came out horrible, could only make mexican jambalaya with the breast meat, but i've been using the fat i saved since. you can yield about a 1 quart jar off a roughly 12lb birdy.
your choice to buy online either the fat or goose separately, go to the park and catch one, or whatever else you can think of.

>>15732621
Its hard to explain.
I like chicken, lard and tallow. But whenever I cook with schmaltz I think to myself "this would be way better with basically any fat besides schmaltz"

>>15735376
as far as I know "Schmalz" means any kind of animal fat in German
any particular reason why you would use that word to describe chicken fat specifically?

>>15728654
sugar and carbs make you fat 10x faster than fats will
guess what highly processed anglo foods have in them

>>15731180
>mirepoix as carrots, onions and pancetta
huh, that sounds great. I always liked a bit of bacon in my mirepoix anyway.

>>15729426
northern is butter, southern is olive oil. but south west is absolutely based with duck fat indeed. when i cook a magret i find myself almost more excited for the leftover fat than for the magret itself. turns anything delicious.

>>15736379
afaik jews call rendered chicken fat shmaltz

>>15732277
Checked, also truths