/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>15838705
what's the ul?

>>15838705
Hate to tell you this but the "UL" doesn't set jack shit, that's for congress at a federal level.

Gee I wonder how you might get out of this situation I literally can’t think of a single way around it

>>15838710
Underwriters Laboratory. The regulatory commission who certify electronics in most of the world as safe or unsafe.

They have decided that electric elements that get all the way hot are too dangerous and have set a standard that all manufacturers must reduce the temperature to half

>>15838705
Just buy a fucking glass stove top
They can be a bitch to clean but they work real nice, it's nice to have 3 different sizes on a single burner too
Those type of burners you posted looks like something you would find in the thirdworld

how does this make it safer? it's just going to make your pans heat up unevenly, and people are just going to crank the stove all the way up.

>>15838728
100% agree. The only thing worse than the limiter coils is "Sensitemp" which will shut off entirely if they get too hot

>>15838724
>regulatory commission
Bullshit they have no force of law. They're a private company that people pay off to "approve" stuff.

>>15838731
From my experience, the little drip catchers underneath tend to have oil splatter and it tends to catch fire on the exterior of the coil where it’s closest to the drip catcher. I had these in a shitty apartment I was in.

>cooking on electric

>>15838744
I would rather deal with smoke and combustion of food spills than an element that only gets hot in the middle

>using caveman coils when induction is available

>>15838724
Those fags at UL have about as much authority as "consumer reports" magazine and that's a pretty low bar.

>>15838753
I don’t disagree with you, I’m just explaining what I would think is their reasoning. In reality keeping your shit clean works just fine. I only had a flame happen when I had a splatter fall directly on the element anyway.

>>15838757
Not always available, not in small apartments.

these things look so shit and poor, im glad ive had gas stoves my entire life.

>>15838765
Same here in NYC, but sometimes shit changes and one has to improvise.

>>15838705
>poorfag detected
just get an induction

>>15838762
If your landlord actually bothers to install this shit just buy a separate induction pad.
With a little more space you can even install a gas burner.

>>15838773
Don't those break real easily and one has to deal with maintenance and upkeep, I'd just go for gas or electric. Plus with gas or electric you can use it to light a smoke.

>>15838776
If in NYC then it's natural so gas is everywhere but in more upstate it takes installation.

>>15838781
Had one in my house for like 5 years and it cleans with water or soapy water for stubborn stains. I've had heavy pans and so on and never so much as cracked it.

>>15838728
>They can be a bitch to clean
>literally wipe a smooth ,clean surface
>vs needing 482148012 different styles of toothbrushes, cleaning products and wrenches and screwdrivers to dissassemble and clean the shit ass coin top that was obsolete and badly designed back in 1862

>>15838781
I've hit mine with a pot multible time out of anger and it hasn't broken.

I've hit it cause after 20 years the circuitry is fucked and it fucks up heating temperatures and times.

You turn it on and set it to 5/9 and in the next hour or so it can be 1/9, 6/9, 8/9 or most likely 25/9

>>15838790
30+ years in NYC with gas burners stoves and oven. I feel your frustrattion.

>>15838781
>induction
>maintenance
You don't have to do shit. Also nothing burns in because the stove doesn't get hot. Of all the electric options it's the most comfortable.
Also it's the most power effective cooking method i think.

>>15838796
The worst thing is that if it's windy the pilot might blow out but that's easy to relight.

>>15838798
You don't have to try to fool me into your bullshit, I'll stick with gas.

>>15838802
Gas will always be the best option.
Just saying if there are no gas pipes induction is the best option.

>>15838798
Inductions break down the most anon, and are the most costly to repair.

>>15838802
Gas>induction>normal electric

>>15838805
I doubt it costs much more than repairing one of these >>15838728
Replacing these >>15838705 is of course a lot cheaper.

>>15838806
Gotta redo that for you
Gas>Electric>induction

>>15838810
Who in their right mind would want a glass stove top that breaks more easily than a homosexual's fragile emotions?

>>15838705
California hates fun you can't own a paper clip without an NFA tax stamp

>>15838820
Try not being an klutz. I never heard of someone breaking their glass stove and they are pretty much everywhere here.
Although being able to not give a fuck is one of best things about as gas stove.

I just use gas stove.

>>15838705
Just buy an induction plug in.

>>15838705
You WILL order at Grubhub

>>15838705
i live in a bumfuck studio and these things are my nemesis; impossible to cook a good stew without it catching on the bottom.
in the contrary, very good for hot knifing.

>>15838839
A good induction hot plate costs 40 dollars on amazon. A good glass pipe costs 20 dollars at your local smoke shop. Stop using your poor people stove.

>>15838839
>hot knives
haven't done that in a long time. I have fond memories of hot knifing small pieces of bud when I was a broke new adult.

>>15838705
>it's 2037
>gas ovens are banned due to environmental reasons
>electric ovens which are supplied by renewables are the only option
>UL ensures ovens technically "work", but cooking on them takes 8x as long as a traditional gas oven
>no one cooks anymore because of the enormous time sink, instead people have to use delivery apps to buy food from ghost kitchens
>there is no escape. you will eat your delivered bugs.

>>15838728
retard
glass top stoves use the exact same electric heating coils but with a ceramic plate on top making it much less efficient and more of headache to repair

>>15838791
>unplug heating coils
>put drip pans in dishwasher
>???
>profit!

>>15839100
also they chip.

i had one in a brand new barracks i moved into back in 2010ish. and every quarterly inspection the full bird ass hole would make the same remark, that i left a speck. it was there since i fucking moved in. it is a chip.

>>15839136
everything chips if you drop knives and fucking metal pans on it

>>15839150
somehow a chip on a tooth grate on a steel webbing over a gas stove seems less inconsequential than a chip in smooth glass top.

>>15839150
why would you ever have a knife anywhere NEAR a stove?

>>15839166
cutting stuff to put ON the stove without having to walk ACROSS the kitchen

>>15839206
this isn't fruit ninja, anon.
Just put your cutting board next to the stove on the counter.

>>15839207
next to the stove is NEAR the stove fyi

>>15839212
A knife should NEVER be above a stove. There should be NO reason to drop one on the stovetop

>>15838705
just buy an induction stove if you don't want gas ffs. the kind you can put on your dining table if you want hotpot. when you move you can take it with you.

>>15839217
you shouldn't drop anything ever what's your point?

>>15839232
You can drop certain things.

>>15839136
zogbot

>>15838757
Sometimes, I cook on them so hard, I burn my skin (on the pan).

>>15838705
stop being a fucking retard, unscrew the shit and fix it yourself.
fucking children these times... "boohoo it is not working right boohoo pls papa fix it" grow some chinhair

>>15838956
You better not try to blame the gas oven ban on jews!

>>15838705
Electric coils are shit anyway. Buy something else, ANYTHING else.

>>15838705
https://www.goodmoneysense.com/disable-sensi-temp/
Quit your bitching and fix the problem.

>>15839456
>disable safety feature
>burns house down
no thanks

I want a gas hob so badly bros. The dorms here all have the shittiest electric stuff ever. I miss gas so much.

>>15839468
buy a grill

>>15839463
>Complain that your stove has safety feature
>Here's how to disable it and make it into a normal stove
>N-no I am actually scared

>>15839524
Why the fuck would I buy a grill if I want a gas hob
Dumbest post of the day right here

>>15838705
this is my OC from when my burner failed, cranking up to surface of the sun hot, melting down the surrounding drip tray

>>15838728
I'm in an apartment, I don't have a choice what stove is installed here

>>15839551
sorry, been a while...not drip tray, the metal connectors to the coil
ended up causing the pressure cooker to heat to such high temp that ended up with carbonized chicken bones and a visit from fire dept

>>15838762
What the fuck does the size of the apartment have to do with it? Induction stoves are the same size as ceramic stoves, the size is not a factor.

>>15839309
try to become less dumb

>>15838820
been using induction for decades, so have several family members
across all these households there has never been an instance of breakage

maybe try to work on your hand-eye coordination to move more elegantly you troglodite

>>15839588
induction is completely different from glass electric. you fucking moron.

>>15838705
O SAY CAN YOU SHART

>>15838956
>gloryfing gas ovens
are you retarded? gas ovens are pure and utter shit

>>15838731
You are a child and the government is your parent. If you act out of line you are a racist and an antisemite. This is democracy, not a republic.

>>15838758
A lot of companies won't buy anything that doesn't have UL or ETL stamp for insurance reasons.

>>15839639
okay mr shekelburg

>yfw the apartment you bought came with an oven with electric cookers
>they suck
I want to replace it but they work for 95% of the food I cook. Poor at searing anything or pan frying though.

>>15839588
>being so smug about something you’re so wrong about due to complete lack of reading ability
If you had a dad, he’d be disappointed in you.

>tfw house I bought is all electric
>Went from using chadgas stove to soylectric
>Get annoyed with how long it takes to heat up anything
>Pans are warped from the kids grabbing them to play with (not going to get mad at kids being kids)
>Decide to just grill all my food outside from now on


Best decision ever.

>>15839658
okay schizo

>>15839116

Too much effort for todays millenials and zoomers - that extra 5 minutes is precious social media time!

>>15839542
Disabling safety features is enough to invalidate your home owners insurance because the fire would be your fault.

>>15840073
>he says as he participated in a society

>>15839679
You can buy an induction hotplate for 40 dollars on amazon.

>>15839564
Buy an in-door gas burner, or a counter-top induction plate.

>>15838705
Well if you would stop setting your state on fire doing stupid things, you wouldn't have the crazies in control.

>>15838705
If you hate the government and stupid leftism in California, you can always move to Texas and bring your left wing voting preferences with you. You know, fuck up some other people's home too.

>>15840200
To be fair, Texas needs to be balanced out a bit. Right leaning centrism would be good for America.

>>15838728
Can be? My mother has one and fucking hates the thing because of how difficult it is to keep it clean.

>>15838751
>gas
no thanks

>>15840236
How is hard to clean? you wipe a wet rag on for dusting, dry it off. Hit it with some cleaning gunk after it cools if something gets stuck on, wipes away fresh.

Know what your mom is, besides a cum slurping whore, lazy.

>>15840224
Texas is full of beaners who vote left because they want gibs and whites are the perceived golden goose. Nobody in texas can drive worth a shit either.

>>15840236
Explain her problems please. I am truly curious, having had one for years and cleaning it with extreme ease.

>>15840236
>wet paper towel
>wipe paper towel over it
i have literally never done anything different

>>15838705
Wtf, I'd surely buy something else.

>>15838757
>buy an expensive stove when the one you already have will last forever
Do consoomers really

>>15840123
>yfw insurance companies paid UL to push for sensi-temp just so people would disable it themselves, thus giving the insurance companies an excuse to ignore claims

>>15840562
I'm going to smash the fucking thing with a chair the next time my rice comes out pastey

>>15838956
Just use a safety razor and mains voltage to boil water.

>an electric stovetop is too dangerous for California
is this fucking real holy shit

>>15840600
That has nothing to do with coils and everything to do with you not knowing how to cook rice.

>>15838705
As of 2018? Cite me a source cause I work for GE Appliances and I've not heard a damn thing about this crap. Although we have the "Sensi-Temp" coil burners so maybe UL gives us a pass because of that.

>>15838705
its not Californias fault. you live in a shit apartment

>>15840417
>>15840443
I've watched her scraping the glass top with a plastic razor trying to get shit off of it that doesn't want to let go.

>>15838936
knife hiiiiiits gettin high AF

It doesn't have anything to do with california. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UL_(safety_organization)

If you want to blame someone blame corporate lawyers. This feature exists to prevent lawsuits.

>>15841024
https://www.lowesprosupply.com/UserFiles/pdf/2019%20Electric%20Range%20Regulations_FINAL.pdf

>>15841151
Ya that's basically what GEA's Sensi-Temp burners. A lil button in the middle that when it reaches a certain temperature threshold will cycle the burner off until it goes below the threshold. I've talked to many consumers who get really pissed off about it and I've had to explain how it works just as many times.

>>15838717
>he thinks swapping to a gas stove is plug and play
holy shit you're a dumbo

>>15839573
>try to become less dumb
Would you show me?

>>15838705
They have these in nevada

>>15841074
Tell her about barkeepers friend

>>15841151
>If you set the stove to max temperature and the oil catches fire the test fails
Or just let retards who think the max setting is for cooking with oil continue removing themselves from the gene pool.

>>15839639
this is a cooking board. please go elsewhere.

>>15838705

>>15838705
Just get an electrician matter to come around and disable the safety.
That's what mostly everyone does in Australia to remove the shitty 40c limit on Hot water systems here

>>15842742
Holy shit your hot water heaters are limited to 104F? WTF.
I thought australia being an nanny state was a joke.

>>15842990
it's cuz some retard burned themselves some years ago.
only applies to new homes though.
but literally everyone in Aus is either a tradesman, or all of their friends/family are tradies, so you just call up your electrician mate, slip him a 6pack and he disables it for you.
>lmao nanny state
sorry mate, cant hear you over the sound of not getting arrested for catching rainwater lmao

>>15839573
We're talking about poor people who don't own their own stoves and rent semi-furnished appartments.

>>15841450
Wait, is this for real? You're supposed to be able to safely put your stove on max heat, fill a pan with oil and walk away? We really expect this little of people now?

How can a stove that "safe" even sear a steak properly?

>>15838705
>lolfornia
It's Over.

>>15843542
it can't.

>>15840236
A towel and some dishsoap. Hot water. Wipe. Rinse. Repeat until clean. Toss towel in washing machine after or use a disposable j-cloth. Use more powerful cleaning chemicals when regular dishsoap does not work. When shit gets really burned on you can leave the hot soapy water to soak in and use a razor blade to gently scrape the surface.

>>15843542
It literally can't. It's incapable of getting a pan hot enough to sear, because that's a fire hazard.

>>15838705
Just make your own thermite out of rusted steel soup cans and aluminum foil. Sprinkle some on the counter, set it off and put your cooking vessel on top. Wa la! It's smokeless and it doesn't need atmospheric oxygen to keep going, so it's really idiotproof.

>>15838724
rent-seeking parasites that have no actual authority or power over anyone? you made this thread because of them?

>>15839570
Looks like some alien relics they found in Prometheus.

>>15838705
Why not just ban them and force people to use induction for safety?

>>15838705
Get gas faggots

>>15840254
>electrical fires don't exist and won't kill you cause reasons

>>15843542
it can't

but it can cook a wheat protein steak replacement just fine

>>15838824
Nah, they have a rated lifespan after which they spontaneously explode. 15 years apparently, though the one that glassed my sister might've been twice as old as that.

>>15839679
Multiply the time it costs you by your hourly rate.

>>15842990
>I thought australia being an nanny state was a joke
What are you talking about, this is straight Liberal (right wing) rhetoric.

>>15845116
Show me all the electrical EXPLOSIONS

>>15845239
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpX3VHKAKak

>>15845296
>11,000v electrical cable
Lmao, do you have many of those in your home?

>>15845304
none doesn't mean it can't happen

How many gas explosions have you seen in your neighborhood?

>>15845344
We haven't used gas since long before I was born, so none.
And even if they "can happen" in things like batteries, the explosion alone is never going to demolish your home.

>>15845347
>gaslet talking about gas
Kek eat shit and keep eating shit

>>15845359
Nigger you know you live at home.
It isn’t your gas. It’s mommy’s gas.

>>15845359
>His country literally has monthly accidental bombings
LMAO

>>15845366
>Live at home
I live in my own apartment and I don't live in the 3rd world so we have piped natural gas.

>>15840073
>btw I don't want to postal vote

>>15845375
Oh and don't even get me started on the actual pipes themselves!
Imagine unironically building your city on top of explosive gas!

>>15838757
What's the point of induction
We've got one & a normal glasstop and I don't know why you'd want to use induction over the glasstop

>>15839570
That image looks like it could be metal album cover.

>>15845375
On the contrary, electric without gas is a first world thing because developers realised niggas didn't really give a fuck about gas and it's cheaper.

>>15845393
because it heats quickly and you can change the temperature on the fly. it's superior in every single way to traditional electric cooktops

>>15845423
But you have to keep the pan on the hob and you have to use an iron/steel pan.

>>15845387
That doesn't really look like a gas fire, though.
I'm sure it smelled lovely.

>>15845429
you have to keep it on the ELEMENT (only babies say hob) with a normal electric cooktop, too. If you were talking about induction vs gas you might have had a point.

>>15838705
>aparment
found your problem, cuck

>>15839570
Use the GFCI outlet next to the sink.

>>15838728
>3rd world
So, america?
Come at me, obsessed mutts.

>>15845446
Obsessed with what?

>>15845431
It is. Relatively mild though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_EgYniC5n8

>>15845450
Bombing children for israel

>>15845432
>only babies say hob
What a strange thing to say
Electric hobs do make heat which rises, even if it's a bit pathetic compared to gas.

>>15845453
I'm not obsessed with that. I think you're confused.
>>15845460
Brits talk like infants.

>>15838762
If you're really that fed up with safety stoves or w.e, then you can probably cut a deal with your landlord to swap in a better stove. I did this with my landlord, mind you I don't live in a shitty 20 story concrete box. But I chose one he approved and I installed in. He might even buy it off me when I move.

>>15845471
>I'm not obsessed
>Brits talk like infants

You do realize you can just buy one that's not un aproved right. UL a private company.

>>15840254
That's a feature, not a bug; gas helps weed out the genes of retards too stupid to work a knob properly from the gene-pool.

I literally used a small portable gas stove instead of an electric stove in my last apartment

I can't fucking STAND the HIGH PITCHED buzzing sound induction stoves make.

>>15841213
No one mentioned gas stove

>>15840254
Gas is fine as long as you have an exterior tank and are not plugged into a distribution network. All the big gas explosions occur because the supplier's pumping equipment failed and created excess pressure which literally broke the valves and caused leaks in homes. That can't happen with an exterior tank, except during filling, of course...

>>15846394
>except during filling, of course...
Filling doesn't introduce any more pressure

>>15841215
I'd be right happy to

>>15845116
A fire you can outrun > getting assploded into a million pieces

>>15838705
The US is on it's way out and heading towards irrelevancy, so this shouldn't matter much in the long run.

>>15838728
Can't use copper bottoms or cast iron on them.
Fuck those.

>>15838705
makes up bullshit story, post pick of 2 level heating element.

>>15838705
Why are you blaming CA for a decision by a non-government organization based in Illinois?
Or are you just a flyover fuck who fell for the "commiefornia" memes?

>>15838705
why does California pass weird laws like this instead of food standards or labor laws or whatever?

>>15848414
They didn't pass any law for this. OP is a faggot blaming the wrong person.

>>15843249
Bullshit. 104 degrees is far too low. Bacteria and baddies will grow at an accelerated rate and you will get legionnaires disease.

>>15847307
i live in a house with those and copper pans literally work fine

>>15839166
It's a kitchen