/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>16201446
I can't imagine being such a disgusting slop British "person" that you think that pizza looked good

"""Thin""" crust
raw dough
pools of grease
sausage pieces so big they were probably undercooked

only a britlard would like such a thing

>>16201446
Dominos made better pizza before they changed everything up.

>>16201446
t. mutt
that pizza looked and probably tasted terrible

>>16201446
what the fuck is your problem?

>>16201502
>>16201515
you do realise that's him on Kitchen Nightmares with a pizza he hates right? you're surely not that stupid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inLQtXvzLT8

>>16201446
idk but definitely not that time

>>16201524
>soyfacing in your own video
Discarded.

his burger would have been uneatable due to so much salt, oozed out a ton of fluid, soaked the bread and be a pain in the ass to eat.

>>16201524
knowledgeable but intolerable, many such cases, sad

>>16202273
can't expect a limey to know how to cook a proper burger. that's amerifat territory.

>>16201446
Pic unrelated

>>16201446
When he thought he would be the youngest recipient of three michelin stars.

>>16201902
>soyfacing
what?

>>16201902
this.

vincenzo seems like a jealous petty soyboy faggot

>>16202910
>do all this in front of an electric slicer that in 5 seconds could have at least sliced your non melting cheeses so thin that they would be a good topping to a well cooked sandwich.

>>16202844
Open your mouth and close your eyes

>>16201446
Anon, you're supposed to actually post a photo that goes with your ITT message.

>>16202844
Lurk more, newfag

>>16202910
I don't know what he was thinking with this. This "recipe" was literally Ja/ck/tier. How did he managed to fuck it up this badly?

>>16203016
Hell no, it's way easier to get replies (and the coveted (You)s) if you start the thread off with a situation where you know Gordon was in the right.

>>16201446
take your spam and copypasta to /b/ worthless faggot

>>16201524
Anything that makes italians seethe is good

>>16202383
Truest thing I have ever read.

Any american can outdo a foreign professional chef when it comes to burgers. It takes a special level of shamelessness and disregard for health and reason to make the best burgers.

>>16201521
I absolutely am, numbnuts.

>>16201446
That isn't a pizza I would want to eat. I prefer a NY style thin slice.

>>16201524
What a joke. Italian cuisine is literally supposed to be "peasant food", i.e., do what you can with whatever little you have. The whole point is the delicious things you create while having very little to work with. The other aspect is how everyone's "mamma" makes the recipes different so no two bolognese, no two lasagne (etc) are the same.
So when an Italian chef acts snooty and claims "that's not the proper way to make X!!!" you just know he's a hack trying to emulate French chefs. French cuisine can act elitist because it's aristocratic in its roots and based on a ton of arbitrary rules (etiquette). Italian cuisine cannot do this because it's meant to be the most basic and accessible type of cooking.

>>16203583
I feel like you're in the minority. Seems like every Italian in the world has some bullshit story about how their dead grandma would walk across the ocean to kill you if she were still alive any time you do something they personally disagree with.

>>16202273
I think if you took half and turned it flat side up it would be edible, just not as intended by the inventor.

>>16201446
Ahem

>>16203479
that is their thin slice

>>16203686
What a hypocrite

It's always the fucking Burger, grilled cheese and whatever the fuck he was doing on the race track.
Get new material

>>16201446
The crust isn't brown, shit is not cooked. Ever eat an uncooked pizza? Taste like shit.

>>16203686
BIG FAT PHONY

someone post the grilled cheese

>>16202273
>uneatable
Inedible, retard.

>>16203686
Has anybody ever posted this to him on Twitter?

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>>16205916
You guys are muppets if you think the two are comparable.
One looks like a proper burger while the other looks like someone decided to go get walmart brand buns for their burnt meatloaf sandwich

>>16203583
italy has the most accessible food "culture", in that it's quintessential poverty food with only cheap ingredients that are barely touched upon, so that even the most retarded inbred italian farmer can master it (and take pride in it as if cooking pasta is some impressive skill lmao!). cheap ingredients, for cheap people (italians are notoriously stingy). As such, and because italians fled their failed country en masse, it is indeed correct to say that italian cuisine transcends all geographical and cultural barriers, just like poverty and aids, two other things italy is known for.
French Haute Cuisine, on the other hand, is exclusive: it asks for the best ingredients, the best cooks, the best savoir-faire. Not everyone can prepare a satisfactory french dish, and fewer still can do it right. Those that can spent years honing their skills under ruthless masters, because such is the price of perfection. It is a sophisticated food, for sophisticated people. It requires a delicate palate to properly experience it's subtilities and charm, to appreciate it's genius and elegance. Peasants can't begin to imgagine such things, and that's perfectly fine: it is not meant for them.

>>16203583
>Italian cuisine is literally supposed to be "peasant food

Not at all. Italian cuisine has a lot of dishes with meat and expensive ingredients.
Also preparation generally take a lot of time except from the 'everyday' recipes

>>16203161
That's not a soyface you retard, unless any expression is soy now

>>16202832
kek

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>>16202383
they fundamentally don't understand what makes a burger good, brits compare burgers to meatloaf as that's all they know, you can tell because every burgah gordon makes looks like it has the texture of a chinese meat dumpling.

>>16205939
The bun quality doesn't matter in the slightest in this situation, what matters is the size.

>>16205948
shut up frog

>>16205939
Waa waa waa waa waa waaa
Fuck off dickhead, it's exactly the fucking same. Idiot.

>>16205905
Inedible means the substance is non-nutritive or that consumption would result in injury or disease. Uneatable means that the action of consuming said object is difficult or impossible due to form factor or physical restriction.

>>16201502
>>16201515
are you fucking retarded? "mutt" is used to describe americans, so how the fuck is he a mutt AND a brit at the same time?

>>16205905
Whats it like to know nothing?

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>>16201515
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>>16205939
kill yourself samefag britmutt kike

>>16206709
bugs bunny voice: no.

>>16206635
Not the same guy but i have to agree, italian food is at its core poor people's food. The expensive ingredient are a consequence of inporting DOP and other made in Italy ingredients that are produced in limited quantities by selected producers

>>16206811
> The expensive ingredient are a consequence of inporting DOP and other made in Italy ingredients that are produced in limited quantities by selected producers
No. Some of the core ingredients are expensive for various reasons aside from DOP
> olive oil
> truffles
> saffron
> pesto
> bottarga
> colatura di alici
Those are core of italian cuisine and pretty expensive for food. Other countries cuisine are equally expensive

>>16206842
> truffles
> saffron
fair enough

how is olive oil expensive? Unless we're talking Brisighella oil..

Bottarga and colatura are absolutely not "core ingredients", i cant really argue on the price since i never bought those.

Pesto can be relatively cheap and even home made if you have a mortar

>>16201446
Gordon is almost always wrong except when dealing with the most literal brain dead people (most of his audience, in all honesty.) A two-bit Chef that plays up his tantrums for the TV while americans clap with amazement.

>>16206865
> how is olive oil expensive?
It's expensive as a fat, way more than for example butter, which is (was) the fat of choice in other coutries

By expensive, you have to think in terms of food consumed nationally

> Bottarga and colatura are absolutely not "core ingredients"
They are in some part of italy.

> Pesto can be relatively cheap and even home made if you have a mortar
Pesto is really expensive as a sauce. You need a lot of basils per person, which is not a very cheap plant per se, pine nuts, parmigiano, and olive oil. It doesn't matter if you do by yourself, the ingredients are pretty expensive, the only cheap ingredient in pesto is garlic and salt.

>>16206865
>how is olive oil expensive?
I meant evoo for clarity.

>>16206882
> They are in some part of italy
I'll allow it. Tho I never ever heard about colatura.

> Olive oil is expensive compared to butter or other fats
True, still you cant really use butter on salads and although oil and butter can be sobstitutes for certain uses you cant really draw a 1:1 comparison. It is more expensive but comes with its own set of different uses. Also I might be biased since i live in Italy.

>Pesto is really expensive as a sauce
Meh. Its mid tier, still cheaper than saffron, truffle/mushroom sauce and boar or deer ragu. Basil is expensive if you buy it as ingredient, consider purchasing a small plant. I have my own rosemary, sage and basil sitting by the window.

>>16206929
> Tho I never ever heard about colatura.
In campania is used a lot

> It is more expensive but comes with its own set of different uses.
Yes, but every country has a "national" fat be it some kind of vegetable oil of animal fat.
Lard, butter and cream are cheaper than evoo, which is nowaday the national fat even in the south

> Meh. Its mid tier, still cheaper than saffron
It's not mid tier. While it's not expensive in absuolute terms, it's orders of magnitute more expensive respect to onion or tomato based sauce.
And it's more expensive than the average sauce of any country.
Saffron is more expensive, but that doesn't make pesto cheap

Dude that pizza looks so fucking good I would take it to pound town.
Don't @ me

>>16206972
> Its not mid tier
At this point none of us is either right or wrong, we just draw the line at different prices. Tomato base sauce is not only cheapER than pesto, it's just cheap. The only thing less expensive than tomato sauce to put on pasta is (quite ironically) olive oil.

Lard is absolutely the national fat in Italy, from north's piadina to south's 'nduja. Still I guess to me olive oil is an "essential" ingredient that i use in many ways almost on a daily basis, so i dont really mind the price too much because i would buy it anyway.

Also to me evo is cheap because rather than comparing it to other fats like lard i compare it to.. well different versions of itself. Olive oil being an essential good to me stands in its own category.
Example:
Regular evo = 5-7€ /lt
Brisighella oil = 30€ /lt

>>16201508
Same with taco bell. They had a killer frito burrito back in the late nineties.

>>16207097
>Lard is absolutely the national fat in Italy, from north's piadina to south's 'nduja
Lard is in no way the national fat in italy, what are you talking about?
piadina does have lard but it's only one dish, and nduja is a cold cut, of course it doesn't have olive oil

How can you came up with this is absolutely insane, unless you want to be a contrarian

>>16206689
Because he’s a fucking bongmutt.
>y-you’re appropriating our meme!! D:
Cry more, mutt ass faggot.

>>16201502
a probable amerimutt so insecure and consumed by his irrational hatred of the British that he doesn't realise Gordon thought that pizza was fucking awful.

>>16207097
> Also to me evo is cheap because rather than comparing it to other fats like lard i compare it to.. well different versions of itself.
You have to compare to other fats because it's what it is.
fat is a core component of any cuisine, any country have/had a fat (or more) on which their cuisine is built upon

Some African country has palm oil, northen eastern europe have lard and butter and western europe tends to be more oil based

>>16201446
When he decided to cook for a career.

>>16203686
>burger is larger than bun
>burger isn't serverd cut in half

ok..

>>16207456
So he didn't yet know how to cut a burger in half when that was filmed. Biting off the overlap was also totally beyond his comprehension. What a master of the trade.

>>16201524
Can someone explain to me why the fuck italians sperg so hard about carbonara? Is it supposed to be some master dish that's hard to make to them or something?

>>16207678
It would be like if someone made a patty out of ground swordfish, put it on a plate with no bun, and served it with kimchi and said "This is my version of a hamburger." It's not a different version of a dish, it's just literally nothing at all like what the dish is even supposed to be, it's almost more of an offense to the language than the food. It might taste good but it's not a burger.

>>16201508
LOLLLLLL

>>16207678
> Is it supposed to be some master dish that's hard to make to them or something?
No it's not, but apparently it is for americans that keep fucking it up
They only recently learned to salt the pasta water after only 50 years from the beginning of immigration. And still you see a lot of retards (gordon ramsay included) puting evoo in the water.

>>16207705
This analogy is absolutely retarded, because 99 percent of "fake" carbonara recipes have most of what the "trve" carbonara recipe has, plus some additions or changing of the style of pork. It's autistic nitpicking and you know it.
Do I think the additions of an australian burger are kind of whacky and probably don't taste that good? Yes. But would I sit on /ck/ and wax poetic about how it's NOT A TRUE BURGOR!! ? Never.

>>16207828
> because 99 percent of "fake" carbonara recipes have most of what the "trve" carbonara recipe has, plus some additions or changing of the style of pork
So out of 3 ingredients (pecorino, eggs, guanciale) one of them is not right and you put a set of 6 ingredients that contains 2 of the right ingredients.
I find the analogy pretty spot on

>>16207846
It's cheese, egg, and pork. All carbonara recipes have this. To say pecorino vs parmesan or guanciale vs prosciutto is like beef vs swordfish, you're just lying to yourself.

>>16207828
If I make chili, and instead of tomato sauce Iuse ketchup and add mushrooms, bell peppers, parsley and cream would you still call it chili you fucking retard ?

>>16205939
No, the point is that in one instance, he's complaining about the fact that the burger is too tall to even bite. But then his own burgers are even taller.

>>16207858
>guanciale vs prosciutto is like beef vs swordfish, you're just lying to yourself.
either you have dead tastebud or you never had them

Are you seriously telling me you can't find differnces between guanciale and prosciutto?
I'm serious, there's something objectively wrong with you

>>16201446

I like a little char on my BBQ. Remember seeing this woman's like perfectly done BBQ ribs. Mouthwatering looking. And Gordon was like 'IT'S BURRRNED' because he has no fucking idea what BBQ is supposed to be.

>>16207858
> It's cheese, egg, and pork. All carbonara recipes have this.
So an english breakfast is a carbonara?

Why instead of being a mongoloid you state that a carbonara is a carbonara and don't change the recipe?

Let's see what american caborara have
- cheese
- bacon/pancetta
- egg
- peas
- mushrooms
- parsley
- cream

you used more than double the ingredients and you would still call it the same dish ?

>Can someone explain to me why the fuck italians sperg so hard about carbonara?
>>16207705
>>16207846
>>16207878
lel

>>16202910
you have the one on him salting the burgers?

>>16207905

>>16207858
I was just exaggerating for the sake of humor. My point is that it's less about purity of the recipe and more about the frustration of calling something a thing which it clearly isn't. So more seriously, it would be like if someone served you a pork patty on a croissant and called it a hamburger. It's just literally not the thing you're calling it, even if it has a lot in common. Calling it a hamburger makes it more difficult to talk about food. If you went to a restaurant and ordered a hamburger, you would be confused if that's what they brought you.

>>16207900
american carbonara is hearty and fucking delicious way better than italian style

>>16207953
For me, it's turkey tetrazzini

>>16207705
>patty out of ground swordfish, put it on a plate with no bun, and served it with kimchi and said "This is my version of a hamburger."
I would consider that a valid hamburger.

>>16207953
Then eat less "hearty", it seems like you can't control your bowel movement anymore

>the secret to a grilled cheese... is the cold cheese

>>16207976
why did you write hearty in scare quotes?

>>16206691
“uneatable” isnt used anymore

>>16201524
>beginning
same vibes

>>16201524
>oy vey how dare you put garlic
fuck off soyboy faggot garlic goes with EVERYTHING

>>16201508
Your tongue is literally broken

>>16207391
I fell asleep. Anyway, i failed to fully understand what you meant by "national fat" and thats why i said lard earlier. I didn't quite grasp the criteria wasnt main source of fat but general consumption.

>>16208602
Based retard.

>>16207953
This is the root of most American food seeth. The rest of the world can't accept that their shitty dishes can be improved. You'll notice that none of these complaints are ever about taste, ease of cooking, ot affordability, it's always "authenticity" which is nebulous and arbitrary.

>>16207937
If it has bread and ground meat, it's a hamburger. If it has beef in a ball of pastry it's a wellington. If it has black beans, pork and sausage it's feijoada. If it has a cylinder of rice and whatever the fuck you want in it it's sushi. If it has If it has egg, cheese and pork in pasta, it's carbonara. Being more specific than that is autistic nitpicking

>>16203686
Ones home made and the other ones in a restaurant, does he serve that BURGA in his restaurants? If not I don't see a problem.

>>16207878
Nigger they're both pork

>>16207678
Swarthy manlets get upset because they think their food is God's gift to the world.

>>16203256
Italians are pure food autists. Every village is absolutely convinced that their version of dishes are better than anywhere else in the world. That's why they all of their own pasta shapes and versions of sauces that differ only by order of operations. The variety is good, but their attitude is shitty.

>>16205948
>italian food is accessible
Italian food isn't accessible. If if were accessible, they wouldn't care how you make it.
>French food
French "cuisine" was built around hiding shitty ingredients with rich sauces and complicated preparations. Now that they have access to good ingredients, they pretend like it's what they were doing all along.

>>16210052
Except one is distilled porkiness, and the other is fancy ham. They're both delicious, and both have their place, but in no way can they be confused with one another.

>>16208319
6 hours just for a cope "that word is too old now".

Be a much shorter list if you tried to list the times he was right
>add butter
There you go, done

>>16210456
>If if were accessible, they wouldn't care how you make it.
They don't. Only fags on youtube pretending Italian cuisine is like French cuisine do. That's the whole point.

>>16210456
>French "cuisine" was built around hiding shitty ingredients with rich sauces and complicated preparations. Now that they have access to good ingredients, they pretend like it's what they were doing all along
>b-but French cuisine wasn't g-good in medieval times!!!
HOLY MOTHER OF COPE! Giuseppe right here in fetal position, seething about the fact French cuisine is literally older than his "country"!!!! absolutely shameful display of impotency ngl

gordon ramsay isnt a real chef or a real person hes an actor

>>16202273
that ground beef is lookin pretty pink, Gord

>>16210756
He started out as a real chef, but somewhere along the way he started drinking his own koolaide and decided it was more fun to be a TV producer.

>>16201502
Either great bait or standard mutt retard, hard to tell the difference these days

>>16207976
>it seems like you can't control your bowel movement anymore
lmao

>>16203695
Is that a slice of brown cheese on the omelette?

He called an average american man the wrong name.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDtf0F9Bsow

>>16211111
Pretty bad get

>>16211111

>>16210945
Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjDEo9kBQQc

>>16210052
So is your mom, but one taste like cured meat and the other taste like fish and grapes

>>16210754
French cuisine is useless autistic and yet somehow the results is inferior to italian

> We create a hierarchy of sauce hon hon hon
But in the end what's matter is the taste, and frech failed hard with their approach

>>16203583
Well for starters, the french cuisine culture was introduced by Catherine de Medici. Pâte feuilletée and béchamel evolved from Florentine prototypes, whereas cassoulet is probably based on the spanish fabada asturiana. It was also Catherine de Medici who introduced the fashion and toiletry culture that came to define france. Second, the 'haute cuisine' status exists only in english-speaking countries, initiated by the british and propelled by the americans. Even neighbours like the Netherlands, Denmark and eastern Europe associate france with perfume and dresses, not with food. That is not to say there are no french restaurants in those countries, because there assuredly is; rather, it is a type of ethnic food, no higher (or lower) in status than food of any other foreign culture.

>>16211757
and yet a scotsman is the most decorated french chef in the world

>>16206652
>this is now a burger recipe thread
1 1/2 tsp of sea salt per pound of meat if you’re cooking on a grill.
That is all

>>16208471
lakupippu pilled

>>16201515
Mutt to mutt, can we agree it's clearly a government-mandated school pizza?