/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>16368511

>>16368511
fuck that smoky charcoal shit good riddance

>>16368511
>some literal who faggot posts literal shit opinion for attention
Fuck off.

he didn't get invited to his neighbor's bbq and now he's mad

>The very first time you use a grill, it's delightfully clean. Then food touches it. Grills run at
high heat, and food burns onto the grates. Like with pots and pans, burned-on food is
tough to remove from grill grates.
>But admit it: You don't even really try. You turn the heat up high, you scrub the grates with
a brush so some soot falls into the fire, and you call it clean. If you did that with a frying
pan covered in burned-on food, people would call you disgusting and refuse to eat in your
house.
>Well, I have news for you: It's still disgusting. Every time you grill, you're putting your new
food right on top of the burned old food from last time, so it crusts onto your new food. Ew.
>Meats need to be seared to develop flavor. Grills do this, but not as well as a heavy skillet
on a hot burner does, since the skillet contacts more of the meat's surface area. But once
you have achieved a sear, more high-heat cooking is just a way to toughen and dry out
your meat.
>Indoor recipes involve strategies to avoid this: periods of high- and low-heat cooking or
moist cooking. It's possible to replicate these approaches on the grill, but not with nearly
as good control. That means grilling is more likely to lead to overcooking or undercooking
your meat than cooking in the kitchen.
>Unlike skinless chicken, fatty meats can withstand the grill's heat because the fat keeps
them moist. But there's a problem: Grease from the meat drips down into the heating
element, causing flare-ups. Or God help you if you put a sugary barbecue sauce on the
meat — it's just going to drip into the fire and burn
>Unless you're cooking using a truly traditional method, most Americans have moved past
cooking on open flames. Either you cook on top of a surface that keeps liquid from falling
into the heating element — like a pan or griddle — or you cook with an open heating
element that is above the food, like a broiler

>The very first time you use a grill, it's delightfully clean. Then food touches it. Grills run at high heat, and food burns onto the grates. Like with pots and pans, burned-on food is tough to remove from grill grates.
>But admit it: You don't even really try. You turn the heat up high, you scrub the grates with a brush so some soot falls into the fire, and you call it clean. If you did that with a frying pan covered in burned-on food, people would call you disgusting and refuse to eat in your house.
>Well, I have news for you: It's still disgusting. Every time you grill, you're putting your new food right on top of the burned old food from last time, so it crusts onto your new food. Ew. >Meats need to be seared to develop flavor. Grills do this, but not as well as a heavy skillet on a hot burner does, since the skillet contacts more of the meat's surface area. But once you have achieved a sear, more high-heat cooking is just a way to toughen and dry out your meat.
>Indoor recipes involve strategies to avoid this: periods of high- and low-heat cooking or moist cooking. It's possible to replicate these approaches on the grill, but not with nearly as good control. That means grilling is more likely to lead to overcooking or undercooking your meat than cooking in the kitchen.
>Unlike skinless chicken, fatty meats can withstand the grill's heat because the fat keeps them moist. But there's a problem: Grease from the meat drips down into the heating element, causing flare-ups. Or God help you if you put a sugary barbecue sauce on the meat — it's just going to drip into the fire and burn
>Unless you're cooking using a truly traditional method, most Americans have moved past cooking on open flames. Either you cook on top of a surface that keeps liquid from falling into the heating element — like a pan or griddle — or you cook with an open heating element that is above the food, like a broiler

>A broiler makes sense. It provides the same sort of open-flame cooking you get with a grill. But it doesn't make a huge mess because gravity carries the drippings away from the fire. The superior tool is already in your own home.

>>16368511
Don't care nigger suck my dick
Grilling with the family on a summer Sunday evening, nothing beats that
Couldn't care less if it's an "inferior cooking method"
I grill for the good times, not to be gordon ragusea

>>16368673
>family
you pathetic cuckold

This reads like someone who's only tried grilling once and fucked up.

>>16368511
He's a kike if you didn't know
>>16368527
Thanks doc

>>16368638
What a faggot.
The fire imparts flavor that you can't get with a reverse sear or whatever this jackass thinks is better in all circumstances.

It's piss easy to grill and the best way to prepare beef, my bare bones charcoal grill that's already falling apart cooked this.

I'll never understand why people think "flare ups" are bad. if anyone here carries this retarded opinion come forward and explain yourself.

Why is this dipshit constantly mentioning a heating element, is he seriously using an electric grill?

>>16368684
No one will ever love you.

>>16368511
Hard hitting media strikes again. Journalists are the cornerstones of our society.

>>16368638
>Every time you grill, you're putting your new food right on top of the burned old food from last time, so it crusts onto your new food. Ew.
You can always tell how worthless someone's opinion is by how infantile and babyish their language and word choice is. Why do people feel the need to write like this?

>>16369118
Who came on your steak bro

>>16370096
feral... its butter you faggot

>>16368824
Cacodaemon can't even fire once when being attacked by a chaingun or chainsaw LOL

You don't even really try. You turn the heat up high, you scrub the grates with a brush so some soot falls into the fire, and you call it clean. If you did that with a frying pan covered in burned-on food, people would call you disgusting and refuse to eat in your house.
>Well, I have news for you: It's still disgusting. Every time you grill, you're putting your new food right on top of the burned old food from last time, so it crusts onto your new food.

What a fucking pussy, if he's afraid of a little carbon I have bad news about what his body is made of

>>16369118
that shit raw lmaoo
no ketchup either, L

>>16369118
Hey man, your steak is actually raw in the center. There shouldn't be a visible line distinguishing the uncooked red meat and the cooked grey/white meat. If you cooked it slower you would still have a nice crust, pink center, but not raw.

>>16369118
this is why indoorchads mock you grillcels

>>16370319

>>16370322
Oy vey, mishigene mentshn

>>16370319
>>16370322
>>16370323
what a surprise

>>16370319
>>16370322
>>16370323
Every fucking time

>>16370323
surely it's a coincidence

>>16368638
>burned-on food is tough to remove from grill grates.
i would like to shove my steel brush up this faggot's ass.

>>16369118
fuckin love milksteak

>>16370419
one time my neighbor was making hamburgers and invited my family over.
and when i bit down into the hamburger i felt something weird and i pulled a metal wire from the grill brush out of my mouth.

>>16370323
kek

>>16368810
I could've guessed it based on his butthurt.

>>16370224
>>16370273
>>16370289
No taste, samefagging, indoor grilling FAGGOTS

Why is some journalist projecting his shitty unmaintained grill onto my life?

>>16370667
It's clickbait. It's playing to your dopamine lust.

>>16370273
there is literally nothing wrong with eating raw meat

I'm a shit cook, but just about anything will taste good if you throw it on the grill. This journalist needs to seek sunlight and have sex.

Why do jews not want us to grill?

>>16370323
>in 1947 he emigrated to Palestine
FREE PALESTINE

>>16368511
>retard doesn't pick what wood his coals are from.
>doesn't control air intake of grill.
>bitches about carbon being filth and even then doesn't just scrub his fucking grill.
I bet this fuck is a cuck with less testosterone than granny.

>>16368511
>I’m a lazy fuck, this is why grill bad

>>16370491
I could have by the blue checkmark

>>16370936
this

the choice of coal and the addition of water soaked wood chips in tins (mesquite, applewood, etc) could allow you to smoke and add flavor in ways not really possibly in your typical domestic kitchen.

I can somewhat better understand the grill hate when it comes to gas grilling, but otherwise it's an embarrassing take

>>16370323
You literally can't make this up.

>>16368511
Leftists destroying American culture now that Trump is out of office.

>>16368642
So the issue is that he is so stupid he cannot grill for right.

>>16371228
what is american culture?

also implying that the orange dolt have lifted a finger to stop it LOL

>>16369118
Guarantee you took the steak straight out of the fridge and stuck it on the grill. Next time let it reach room temp all the way through before cooking.
You can even see strip of pure white fat in that slice lmao.

>>16368511

>>16371450
You can taste the salt. Who pissed in his coffee mug?

>>16369129
Hnmmm why would sudden rapid heat changes effect how you cook something?!? Hmmmm I wonderrrrr (this is what this anon is actually thinking)

>>16371581
probably trump
>>16369129
of all things you could have picked from the article, you pick the only sound argument.
Of course random flare ups are bad, you end up with undercooked and overcooked spots retard

>>16368511

If he had any food tox knowledge, he could have written about the very real (yet very negligible if you're not a pussy) phenomenon of fat landing on hot coals and generating heterocyclic amines. Instead, he says its yucky because fat is flammable. God, I can't even imagine being such a pussy to the point of believing that even the shittiest of propane grills have such poor heat control that it wouldn't reach temps that not only achieve that 5-log kill of any pathogens (assuming you buy shitty dirty meat) but that there would be any nutrient left intact for those bacteria to grow on in the first place. And aside from maybe smoking something in a weber kettle (not recommended) chamber temperature isn't really an issue. Fire heats bottom surface of food, bottom surface transfers heat to middle, its like saying stoves are bad because they don't make roast beef as well as the oven. It makes me green with rage whenever I see these nobodies with zero qualifications presenting their opinion as some kind of established truth
>based in New York, NY
Gee, I wonder how much grilling he does on all the land he owns in New York. Or, perhaps more likely, he's a rent cuck who pays $3k a month for a room with a view of someone else's rooftop grill and he's publicly coping with the fact that he has to make his 4th of July meal on a george foreman panini press, assuming he cooks at all

>>16368810
I didn't look very far but early life doesn't say he is a kike, however at the bottom of the page it says he is a faggot so theres that one.

>>16371853
>Gee, I wonder how much grilling he does on all the land he owns in New York. Or, perhaps more likely, he's a rent cuck who pays $3k a month for a room with a view of someone else's rooftop grill and he's publicly coping with the fact that he has to make his 4th of July meal on a george foreman panini press, assuming he cooks at all
this sounds plausible
the entire thing reeks of sour grape

>>16370323

>>16371622
>>16371659
but that's an exaggeration, at most it adds a tiny extra crisp on the surface, an improvement. a lick of flame is not going to make a bigger difference than that against the overall heat from the bed of coals. it's a totally imagined problem. you see a flame and react like frankenstein FIRE BAD

>>16368511
>for some reason has the heating element below the food
>kitchen is better
I'm so confused.

>>16368511
I'm sure the hemp smelling bivouak he calls home is just delightful.

>>16368511
Imagine being so unmanly that you don't know how to control the temperature of a fire.

>>16371853
>Or, perhaps more likely, he's a rent cuck who pays $3k a month for a room with a view of someone else's rooftop grill and he's publicly coping with the fact that he has to make his 4th of July meal on a george foreman panini press, assuming he cooks at all
Half of the bullshit in his "article" mentions a heating element. On a grill. So yes.

>>16370110
No bully...

>>16371853
>>16371892
>Gee, I wonder how much grilling he does on all the land he owns in New York. Or, perhaps more likely, he's a rent cuck who pays $3k a month for a room with a view of someone else's rooftop grill and he's publicly coping with the fact that he has to make his 4th of July meal on a george foreman panini press, assuming he cooks at all
His dad is a rich Harvard kike (gee I wonder how he got his job) so he's just engaging in the time-honored practice of shitting on American familial traditions

>>16369118
>that semen drizzle

>>16370802
Because grilling leads to spending time and forming tighter bonds with your friends and family.

>>16368511
lol the non-political, centrist grillers are gonna sow what they seeded in the near future

lol the non-political, centrist sneeds are gonna feed what they seeded in the near future

lol the non-political, centrist Chucks are gonna fuck what they sucked in the near future

I cook on a gas BBQ, please tell me I fit in.

>>16373007
If you own and use a smoker you are only marginally less based than full-time charcoal grillers.

>your grill is dirty
nigga clean your grill lol

>>16369118
Someone doesn't know how to cook

>>16368511

>>16369118
DO AMERILARDS REALLY

>>16374501

>>16374501
The ironing.

>>16374509
I'm australian fuck off

>>16371349
It was absolutely delicious, cope more.

>>16369118
it cooked your out of focus undercooked steak?

>>16368511
>heating element is below
What the fuck does he cook with that the heat is above? The microwave? Heat lamps?

>>16374582
even worse

>>16370936
I think the point he's making isn't that he doesn't do it, or that you, specifically, don't do it, but that the public at large doesn't do any of these things, and he's honestly right about that. most people don't know how to grill shit well, even though it's definitely possible.
At least that's what I assume he's saying, I might be giving him too much credit.

>>16369118
>steak undercooked
>sausage incinerated
Do Australians really?

>>16370323
>>16370322
>>16370319

>>16370323
Coincidence.

>>16374883
Why?

>>16375008
Yappy dog American wannabes.

>>16374603
I'm sure it tasted OK. But when you learn to actually grill a steak, you'll know what you've been missing.

>>16374922
>I think the point he's making
This is literally his point, pictured.

>>16368511
>mfw fat fuck twitterfags seething over being called out for their dirty unwashed grills dripping grease

>>16368824
>The fire imparts flavor that you can't get with a reverse sear or whatever this jackass thinks is better in all circumstances.
t. never ate a reverse sear in his life

>>16370941
Lazy fucks are absolutely the sort of person to grill steaks, what are you on about?

>>16372065
>I'm so heckin' manly because I cook on a grill!!!
Christ, gather some self-awareness.

>>16368511
He's not wrong. Gas grills are for subhumans, just use a dirt cheap charcoal grill for your grilling needs.

>>16368527
thanks doc

>>16368684
you’re pathetic and you need a reality check

>>16370224
>ketchup on steak
nice bait

>>16369118
The steak is bad enough, but what the fuck is anything else on this plate

>>16368511
cool.

>>16370434
Those are actually incredibly dangerous because there's no good way to extract them in surgery if necessary.

>>16368511
Main benefit of grill is kitchen gets hot from stove/oven

>>16370319
>>16370322
>>16370323
STOP NOTICING THINGS

>>16375382
I probably make reverse sear steaks more often than grilled. Still use the grill when making carne asada and most heavily marinated steaks. A little less perfection in the cooking is traded for wonderful flavor.

>>16368511
Im going to guess that this guy is jewish.

>>16377069
You are correct.

Listen, i am transgender, you could even consider some of my views leftist, but I dont want grilling to go away, please dont blame us for this shit

>>16377106
Jews don't want you to grill your bug burgers to get any more flavor on them

>>16377330
Bug burgers are cringe, if youre trying to reduce meat pollution just eat vegetarian food. and I eat meat every so often. i said im a leftist tranny not that im retarded. Yes there is a difference.

>>16368511
He's not wrong though; a lot of people who grill are retarded about, they grill over fire instead of using the radiant heat from coals, they don't properly clean it, and they char their food to hell and back. This is probably who he is mentioning, and they're the same people as him.
However, to say when you grill you don't have any "temperature control" is an absolutely retarded statement. There's a reason many grills have offset racks or whatever they're called, and you can also do the aforementioned forbidden technique of pushing your coals to one side, while having the opposite side have no coals.
Grilling also imparts a specific flavor profile that can't be copied over on a stove top. This stupid faggotry of black or white statements is retarded, different styles of cooking your meat have different attributes, different pros and cons, etc.

>>16377106
YWNBAW

>>16370323
Wait whose page is the last one? it just says Robert Barro as a student

>>16377765
Zvi Griliches
his dads (((advisor))) at uni
(((Coincidentally))) his father had lots of jewish contacts and his child turned out a fag

>>16377615
My father loves me and supports me and thats all I care about :)

>>16370319
>>16370322
>>16370323
every fucking time

>>16370322
didn't even have to check wikipedia

>>16370323
You can always tell it's a jew by the way they write, as it has a very distinct obnoxious tone to it.

>>16368638
>he doesn't just crank the grill up to max and let it heat up for 10 minutes
that shit comes off with the air blower.

>>16372846
zey vil grill ze bugs

>>16368586
why do people say this?
I would hate to be invited to a bbq. Stand around drinking beer with a bunch of pregnant looking nimbys while they gossip about everyone and talk about shit like tools and lawns? nah miss me with that shit, I'll make myself a nice bison burger inside that'll be better than their dried out patties

>>16370323
Like clockwork

>>16368527
thanks doc

You're all retarded as fuck. The reason ppl use a grill is because there is more surface, so you can prep a lot of meat at the same time. I have 6 burners on my stove but only two of them are big.

Imagine having a bunch of ppl waiting for their steak to be prepared while others already have theirs. With grill they all end up being ready around the same time.

Im not even american but WOOOOOOOH FOURTH OF JULY

>>16368684
Having a family is the opposite

>>16375399
The point is that grilling is epic in the first place and you’re a faggot for not understanding this. Christ gather some self awernes. Or is this a troll/psyop?

>>16371853
>muh heterocyclic amines

>>16368527
thanks doc

>>16368511
Opinions are like assholes.

Everyone' s got one.

>>16380674
Most of the boomer grillmasters I know never, ever have more than a dozen people over at a time and usually less. They only throw such parties a few times a year. All of them have grills that cook inconsistency. They lack skill. The steaks end up uneven and served at different times.

All of them are not retiring at 65 and bitch incessantly about their jobs, most of them having been forcibly demoted to basic bitch work, the others drinking heavily. Yet they all want a new grill.

I just don't know. You can serve a lot of people with just a stove and an oven if you prep the steaks in the oven ahead of time and use cold sides or make sides on the actual stovetop. People buy so much shit they don't really need.

>>16368527
Doc I need my full dose

>insane psychotic shitting on American tradition for no reason
>and really, really seething about it too
>check heritage
Would I believe it's a coincidence?

>>16381379
your post can really be whittled down to
>All of them are not retiring at 65
and
>People buy so much shit they don't really need.
both sentences encompassing the majority of people and endlessly depressing, to boot

Sneeds fuck and chuck

>>16371853
Incredibly based. Enjoy your day king.

>>16372846
>>16372856
>>16372860
PEE IN MY PEE

>>16379158
>t. never been invited to a cookout

>>16370323
Wow

>>16381379
So what you're saying is that you have shit taste in friends and hang out with losers. Noted.

when i was a kid my father would use an old outdoor grill on our balcony at an apartment complex and it annoyed the neighbours so much we got police called on us several times but he never stopped. good memories.

>>16379158
The last bbq I was at the topics of discussion were repaving your driveway, someone's new deck, and if the teleological suspension of the ethical was permissible
Na just kidding about that last one

>>16381379
>Yet they all want a new grill.
You can get perfectly serviceable gas grills for 200 bucks. That shouldn't be breaking the bank

>>16369118
Looks like shit my man

>>16377960
Honestly, good for you

Just crank your oven to 400 in the middle of a heat wave bro

>>16368527
thx doc

Since there seems to be some criticism in this thread, what are the actual downsides of using a gas grill? Genuine question, it's the only kind of grill I have experience with though video related had my mouth watering and considering alternatives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGpQg6DWvAY

>>16379158
do you live in arlen, texas

>>16383359
The charcoal imparts a smoky flavour to the meat

>>16383359
the singular advantage of a gas grill is it's ready to go in 5 minutes after being turned on. Charcoal takes a while to heat up and for a busy mom on the go, not worth the better taste
Also they put less carcinogens in your food but unless you're grilling every day I don't think that's a big deal

>>16383371
>>16383471
I see. Thank you for explaining. I've got this little steel box that's apparently supposed to be filled with wet wood chips and then set on my gas grill to generate smoke, would that help the flavor at all? I imagine it wouldn't be the same as using a charcoal or wood-fired grill, but I'm by no means an expert either.

>>16383496
if they generate smoke then yeah it would

>>16368638
Half this shit is the same when cooking with cast iron or carbon steel, so I’m not sure what his point is