/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>16717425
VAT

>>16717425
VAT, you nonce.

lotta hard of hearing draculas itt

>>16717425
>96 layers of puff pastry
>costs 96p
spooky, I also call bullshit on that claim

>>16717441
They peel off 16 layers if you order it to-go.

>>16717430
>>16717433
i don't know what you are saying

the fuck is vat

>>16717425
Who the fuck eats in at Greggs for fucks sake?

>>16717449
>i don't know what you are saying

...I get the feeling you find yourself saying that a LOT.

>>16717425
>>16717449
You have to pay taxes if you eat in the dining room of a restaurant, but food on its own is tax-free so ordering to-go removes the tax.

4 sosig rolls for 1 quid? how does ol Greggo do it lads

>>16717453
only when it come to foreigners trying to say shit and expecting us to read their minds

>>16717458
thank you for that

rest of the world doesn't have to pay extra to eat in a restaurant so lots of people wanted to know what vat meant

>>16717460
What the fuck is a quid?

>>16717430
>>16717433
What the fuck is a VAT?

>>16717440
Huh?

>>16717458
>You have to pay taxes if you eat in the dining room of a restaurant, but food on its own is tax-free so ordering to-go removes the tax.
What?

>>16717470
>>16717472
It works this way in the US as well. Go to McDonald's and order dine in, you'll get sales tax added. The UK calls their sales tax "VAT," not sure why.

>>16717478
VAT = Value Added Tax

>>16717478
it's not a thing in Canada

food is taxed regardless

>>16717489
Well, that's downright fucking dystopian.

>>16717478
>It works this way in the US as well.
Sales tax is locally assessed in the US. I have lived in areas where they taxed goods but not services, so you could get a haircut and pay an even $20, but if you buy a bottle of $15.99 shampoo, then the shampoo would be taxed. I have lived in states where both the haircut and the shampoo are taxed. I have never yet lived in an area where dine-in food was taxed but take-out food is not taxed. There may be such a locality, I just haven't eaten there.

>>16717449
>>16717472
value added tax

>>16717494
that's how 99% of the world works(for restaurants)

>>16717508
Do british afghanis really think that their little rainy poo-stained island comprises 99% of the world?

I work for greggs ama faggots

>>16717511
no 99% of the world taxes your food wether you take out or eat in

learn to read faggot

>>16717525
Why should I care where you work?

>>16717536
Clear as mud.

>>16717525
What's in the vegan sausage rolls?

>>16717496
>I have never yet lived in an area where dine-in food was taxed but take-out food is not taxed.
It works that way in Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, and New York, and as those are the only states I've lived in I assumed it was that way in every state.

>>16717538
Begone mutt faggot

>>16717555 (checked)
Vegans. Or quorn protein (fungus)

>>16717425
Not sure why all the idiots are saying taxes but it's because they rent you a clean table and chair that they can't give to anyone else while your butt is sitting on it, and people are filthy and they have to clean up

>>16717489
>>16717494
In Alberta and BC, you only pay the federal Goods and Services Tax (GST, currently 5%) on food, meals, and non-alcoholic beverages.
In shittier provinces, they also apply an additional provincial sales tax of anywhere from 6% to 10%, usually bundling it together with the GST and calling it a "Harmonized Sales Tax" or HST.

They tried to pull that HST scam in BC and nobody was fucking having it.

>>16717508
>(for restaurants)
Oh, I thought you meant all food was taxed. That makes more sense and is not as dystopian. Putting sales tax on groceries would be, though.

>>16717564
So they are landlords?

>>16717525
How do I get the person serving me to put shit loads more chocolate in my mocha?

>>16717566
>sales tax applied at multiple governmental levels at once
Jesus Christ.

>>16717560
So if you go through the drive through at a McDonalds in one of those states, you don't pay sales tax on your burger? It's just 99 cents?

>>16717440

>>16717564
>Not sure why all the idiots are saying taxes
Because it's literally fucking taxes. In the UK, a value-added tax (VAT) is applied to food eaten in-store and heated takeaway, but not applied to cold takeaway.

>>16717576
Correct. Same if you walk inside and tell them the order is to-go. But if you eat in and they serve it to you on a tray to eat immediately it's taxable.

>>16717449
>vat
>>16717472
>What the fuck is a VAT?
Virgin Applicable Tax, just say you aren't a virgin and you don't have to pay it

>>16717489
Can depend on the item too. You pay tax on a big thing of milk, but no tax a small 500ml bottle. I believe the logic is based on the idea that if you're very hungry and need to feed yourself immediately you shouldn't be taxed for that

>>16717575
Provincial economies differ vastly, so it makes sense to allow individual provinces to set their own provincial tax rates and exemptions.

>>16717425
are sausage rolls even good?

>>16717470
What? VAT means Value Added Tax and it's used on almost every product you buy from a reseller, not just food. How come you don't know that?

>>16717602
They are very hit and miss.

>>16717602
It's an English breakfast food. Take a wild guess.

>>16717601
The US lets all states set sales tax rates as well, but there is no federal sales tax of any kind. There are a couple states that don't even have sales tax. It's the idea that the federal government even collects sales tax in the first place that boggles my mind.

>>16717619
>federal government even collects sales tax in the first place that boggles my mind.

Gotta pay for all that "free" shit somehow.

>>16717470
Most countries have some form of VAT nowadays, alternatively called a Consumption Tax, Goods and Services Tax, etc.

>>16717425
>>16717449
calm down, Lena

>>16717631
Most countries are absolute hell holes and I would never want to live in them.

USA-Burma-Nork alliance ftw!

>>16717619
There's been a couple attempts to implement a national VAT in the US, but as you're well aware tax reform is always a tenuous issue in the States. I wouldn't be surprised if you guys get one within the next decade with the way things are going.

>>16717630
Basically.

>>16717639
They would have more success trying to tax the purebloods to raise money to treat all the jabbies' severe side effects.

>>16717425
Cleaning the table that you soil when you eat in.

I don't respond to tripfags.

>>16717560
No, I live in Michigan and you ALWAYS pay sales tax on restaurant food regardless of whether you eat in or take out.

>>16717636
Dumbass, every state has sales tax.
We don't call it "VAT", and it's not federal, but otherwise it's the same.

>>16717639
Yeah, thanks to our billions of dollars of "assistance" to Israel during the pandemic and trillions in other ridiculous spending the government is getting real fucking pushy about taxes so it wouldn't surprise me, either. Right now the IRS is trying to make it so all banks have to report the complete transaction history of any account with more than $600 of transactions in a year. You know, to catch "underreporting" and such. Hopefully it gets blocked and everyone tells them to get fucked.

>>16717651
meant for >>16717644

>>16717651
You are doing it right now. Even if you try to make a show of how much you hate le tripfags, I am still running the show inside your head. Your decision to not reply to me and instead pretend like you aren't replying to me with your statement 'i dont reply to tripfriends' is itself a reply to me.

>>16717659
It's not the same. In Freedomland, we can avoid paying sales tax by buying something across state lines. In Hellholeland, they can never avoid paying it, like the paypigs they are.

>>16717658
If that's the case for you then it's a new thing because I worked at Tim Horton's from 2009 to 2012 and it was always the case that anyone who ordered dine-in got sales tax added but anyone who ordered to-go did not. I had to explain this to upset customers a couple times per week.

>>16717661
It wasn't, though.

>>16717658
Oof. The narrative slowly falls apart.

>>16717671
>In Freedomland, we can avoid paying sales tax by buying something across state lines.
Only if you're talking about physically crossing into a state that has no sales tax, which is rare to be able to do. A couple years ago there was a federal law passed which mandated that any company dealing in interstate commerce (shipping stuff, digital goods, etc) must now calculate and charge applicable sales tax based on the customer's location and remit that tax to the customer's state government so that people couldn't avoid sales tax by buying shit online. Ever since then I have to pay sales tax on Steam games and it's fucking stupid.

>>16717695
>A couple years ago there was a federal law passed which mandated that any company dealing in interstate commerce (shipping stuff, digital goods, etc) must now calculate and charge applicable sales tax based on the customer's location and remit that tax to the customer's state government so that people couldn't avoid sales tax by buying shit online. Ever since then I have to pay sales tax on Steam games and it's fucking stupid.
I don't know about that. I think it's only a minority of shitty states that have their local laws. I almost never pay sales tax when I order shit to my state.

>>16717440

what the fuck were you doing in Greggs

>>16717707
I just double-checked, you're right that it's something that a bunch of states did on their own. The federal component was them mandating that merchants from any state are required to comply with those rules from any state that required it if they intended to sell goods to customers in those states. I mistook that for being a federal mandate that all states would do this now.

>>16717727
Being racist, what else?

>>16717574
You pretty much don't. The new machines automatically dose the chocolate

>>16717727
Performing a private mukbang for the cashier.

>>16717614
>breakfast
not quite

>>16717478
In my state of the US, sales tax is applied to prepared food (such as at a restaurant, including McDonald's) but not grocery items, so if I get a McDouble I pay an extra 6% whether I eat in or take it to go, but if I buy a frozen microwave burger at the grocery store there's no tax
>>16717560
I've lived in Michigan for 27 years and it has always been the way I described and never the way you described, either you lived in a weird bumfuck city with municipal tax rules, or you're mixing it up and misremembering

>>16717762
It was Saline, MI, so maybe. It's in the same county as Ann Arbor and I know Ann Arbor likes to fuck around like that with special rules.

>>16717731
>federal mandate

Stop using this phrase as if it means anything. There are laws, and everything not made explicitly illegal by law is legal. "Mandates" are just made-up bullshit to intimidate and coerce the civilian population, illegally.

>>16717659
>every state has sales tax
You wish lol

>>16717430
>>16717433
>>16717585
Wow that's retarded.

>>16718021
I think it was a supreme court ruling or something, I can't be bothered to look up the precise federal involvement, but whatever the federal government did required interstate business to follow any applicable online sales tax bills passed by the state the customer is in.

>>16717744
what did they do?

>>16717659
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/112415/5-states-without-sales-tax.asp
Ignorant fool.

>>16717593
Okay so what the fuck is stopping me from ordering it to go then sitting down and eating it there? They gonna call the cops because I didn't pay an extra $0.80 to eat in the building? Retarded.

>>16718158
That's actually a common workaround and probably why a lot of states don't bother making the distinction.

>>16718083
Kicked me out.

>>16717425
they cost a quid in manchester wtf, conning me out of 20p the bastards

>>16717560
It does not work that way in New York, restaurants are taxed whether you eat in or take out

>>16717478
No, in US its prepared food vs food you have to prepare yourself

as per usual mutts ruin what could have been a comfy greggs thread

>>16717525
How are you enjoying your discount card you fucking jammy bastard?

>>16717440
top jej

>>16717614
Retard

I don't mind Gregg's sausage rolls, but you can literally buy the same thing in Iceland for half the price.

The only difference is you have to cook them yourself, which takes like 25 minutes. Can't imagine why anyone bothers going to Greggs when you can buy a pack of 4 and keep them in your freezer so you can have one whenever you want.

>>16720392
Gregg's is the kind of thing you grab one to munch on while you're out and about. The Iceland ones are what you eat when you're at home.

>>16720419
Or you can just make yourself a sandwich for 20p and bring it with you. I'll never understand people who eat out constantly.

>>16717631
Hmmn I notice a lot of failed states don't have VAT... and the USA. Huh really jogs my noggin...

>>16720517
That's an option, but it depends on planning ahead. You can't always predict when you'll get hungry and want a snack. Gregg's is better than some other shit you can buy.

>>16720392
Man yeah

>>16717695
Just lie on your steam location within the US? They have no way of verifying this.

>>16717458
*cough "KIKES" *

>>16717602
ask for the ones that are browned on the outside
if they are still pale theres a chance they are undercooked by whatever druggie they hired to put them in the oven

>>16717449
Vault-Tec Assisted Targeting

>>16717458
OI IT IS SIX BONG
Y'KNO WADDAT MEAN
SHOW YER DININ LOICINSE

>>16717496
Dine in and take out are both taxed where I live, but buying food from a grocery store is not taxed.

>>16717425
Wow, 96 layers. Truly amazing.

>>16717602
I don’t think greggs was around when I was kid so never had one, only ever had them from bakeries. I live in the states now and there’s an English pie shop that makes them in house and they’re very good, or I just make my own which are great too. Best thing to eat on a cold damp morning. Pic rel is the place for anyone who lives in New Jersey

>>16717478
>The UK calls their sales tax "VAT," not sure why.
they like to pretend that paying more money for no reason adds value to the product

>>16717441
>>16717445
>>16722159

Idiots. It's a reference to justice for the 96. YNWA. SCOUSE NOT ENGLISH

>>16722259
Counter girl could get my sausage roll in her pie shop if you know what I am getting at.

>>16722372

I'd shove my pie in her barm for an extra 40p if you know what I mean

>>16717425

Order to go, sit down anyways.

>>16717440
Kekerooni