/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Why the fuck do you need internet randos to tell you what to do?
I don’t give a shit if you use it or not, fag.

>>16794915
But, notice the type of person that's obsessed with MSG. There's your answer.

>>16794934
Kind of reminds me of guys who buy soy sauce.

>zoomer thinks YouTube is “reality”
Nobody’s “obsessed” with msg.
It’s a common ingredient for millions of people.
Just like nobody’s obsessed with salt. You just use it.

>Why are people so obsessed with MSG?
Cheap way to easily enhance certain flavors in a way that plenty of people enjoy. Can get similar results without concentrated MSG, but usually involves more complex preparation and alters dish flavor in more ways than just adding MSG.
>Why the fuck should I use this instead of salt?
You shouldn't. No one is advocating it as a salt replacement.
Something that it does replace would be fish oil or soy sauce, for example. But again, you lose the extra flavors if you remove those entirely.

I tried it instead of salt for a while, since it was on the shelf while I was looking for bay leaves. Not really too noticeable, but did make soup taste slightly better. I think it’s an overreaction to the “MSG is cancer causing and deadly” scare that happened.

>>16794949
Should use both salt and MSG. Some people find that MSG reduces the amount of salt needed to get a fulfilling flavor, but personally I've never found it to be that way.
For a lot of soups, I find a bit of fish oil goes a long way.

>>16794949
>I think it’s an overreaction to the “MSG is cancer causing and deadly” scare that happened.
happened 50 years ago? Are millennials this fucking slow?

>>16794963
50-10 years ago in waves, especially since it's heavily used in heavily processed food and people are looking for some silver-bullet reason why depending on those foods makes you feel like shit. Keep in mind that a lot of people just hear it and don't think too deeply about it.
Only like 10 years ago did I start hearing popular Western chefs and such advocate using MSG point blank.

>>16794937
I mean, I buy soy sauce. But, I only use about a bottle every 5 or 6 months. A little goes a long way.

>>16794984
that's like being "just a little bit gay"

>>16794984
It ruins everything you put it in.

>>16794974
>chefs and such advocate using MSG point blank.
those aren't chefs.

>>16794930
he probably american; they can't survive without someone telling them how to think

>>16794991
everybody is a little gay

>>16794997
No. That's definitely not true. Just learn to cook.

>>16794991
Sorry. I don't allow other people to influence my choices. I'll keep buying soy sauce every 6 months and using it when I need it.

>>16795001
But at least we can actually say whatever regurgitated thought we think.

>>16794999
Fine
People who either create recipes or make instructional videos based off of created recipes.

>>16794997
>>16794991
Everyone uses soy sauce.
The number of people who don’t is so statistically insignificant that you basically don’t exist. Sorry.

>>16795007
Learn how to actually have some flavor complexity that isn't vile.

>>16795023
>you basically don’t exist
YAY I WIN AT BEING AT A CONTRARIAN FUCK YOU GUYS DIE IN HELL HAVE FUN WITH YOUR SHITTY FOOD

>>16795025
Lol. Imagine getting filtered by soy sauce.

>>16795044
it's ok to be filtered by asian "food"

>>16795021
Except on social media or around minorities

>>16794915
Onions

>>16795065
Legally, though. Obviously if you cut in too deep someone is going to oppose it.

>>16794915
because it increases your excitatory neurotransmitters and turns you into an effeminate bitch also because it tricks your brain into thinking your food tastes good

I use msg alongside salt and pepper. I put it on everything. If you don’t use msg you’re a fucking loser.

>>16795092
i use natural ingredients high in glutamates rather than using a crutch, chud.

Its useful if you don't have the time to develop natural umami through searing and reduction, also if you want chinese food to taste like how they make it you need MSG.

>>16794915
Posting pictures with soyjak-looking individuals should be considered bannable bait-posting.

>>16795605

>>16795129
>I use glutamates rather than glutamates
Alrighty.

>>16796045
>an anchovy is msg
Sure..

you shouldn't use it instead of salt because it's not the same shit
it's just a clickbaity faggot video
if you want more salt you add salt, if you want more fast food burger flavor you add msg

>>16796050
An anchovy is disodium inosinate

>>16796050
>a chemical functional group isn’t a chemical functional group when it’s inside a fish
So is fish sauce a terrible processed crutch as well? Because it’s extracted from the fish. You don’t find fish sauce growing naturally in the wild.

>>16794915
why the fuck would you want to replace salt with msg?

>>16796192
cooking from jars/bottles is a crutch, yes.
it's dump and serve bullshit.

>>16795023
My mom refuses to ever use soy sauce because "it's very salty" her exact words

>>16794915
I think of it like hyper salt. Like it fucks with the tongue the same way salt does.

>

>>16796209
If you want to bait, don’t go full-retard.

ive literally never heard anyone irl talk about MSG, only you gays on 4channel

>>16796341
My mom brings it up a lot. Oh no does that mean that she goes- oh god no!

>>16796330
>bait
Lock me up if being able to actually cook is "bait" here.

You will add the MSG
You will add the aspartame
You will add the high fructose corn syrup
You will consume GMO
You will use the vegetable oils
You will wash in chlorine
You will bathe in roundup
This is America
This is Cyberpunk

>>16794937
>guys who buy soy sauce
Asians?

>>16796450
Asian men are manly to you?

>>16796411
>those are all bad because.... they just are, okay?

>>16796475
Look at ye works America and despair

>>16794915
MSG is used with salt, they provide two very different flavors.

>>16794963
My friend refuses to eat anything with msg because she believes it triggers allergies in her.

>gigantic health scare over MSG
>brands go out of their way to advertise that they have "no MSG"
>now it's just perfectly fine
I give up on understanding this world

>>16796481
it's because they're white

>>16796935
seething

>>16795001
Have you ever met a german?

>>16796955
Ger"man"

>>16796394
>I make literally everything from scratch
No you don't

>>16796453

its does the same thing(enhance food) in a slightly different way. use whatever you want

>>16794915
It makes you like the food more.
The real reason why social network hipsters are into it is, because they get paid to say so.

MSG makes me piss out the ass. I can't have chinese food anymore because I drink an entire 2L soda bottle and still feel thirsty.

>>16794915
Use bullion cubes instead to of salt

>>16796657
The health scare was a Euro fabrication, and it stopped after ajinamoto opened up factories in Europe.

>>16796626
Then employ some subterfuge and start secretly cooking it for her. Particularly if it's a favorite dish. Then after she's very well accustomed to it, say a year, remove the MSG and replace it with nothing so that she notices a flavor change. Once she actually addresses you about why it suddenly tastes different, mentioned you were out of MSG and you always used it in her food.

She'll have a mental breakdown over realizing she has been eating something she convinced herself his self was toxic poison that made her physically sick while never actually having a reaction

>>16796657
nutrition is a literal failed science. the vast majority of “studies” put out can hardly be held to the standard of actual science, and nearly everything reported on health is misinterpretation of flawed studies

>>16794999
Heston Blumenthal promotes msg and he is objectively one of the 25 greatest chefs ever.

>>16796949
Fatties can't afford to eat this food.

Not because it's fattening, and they're already fat.
But because this kind of food tastes miles better when you've been fasting from it for a while.

Eat salad, chicken breast, veggies, potatoes for a while, then eat pizza. Or a sausage. You've earned it. And it tasted a million times better.

It is like fapping once a month vs fapping once a day. Delayed gratification.

>>16798158
>tiny penis man wrestling tiny horse
wow much manly

>>16796209
when you buy anchovies, which contain lots of MSG, are they not stored in a jar?

>>16799542
manlier than you pansy

>>16799648
>t. asian

>>16796411
>Implying GMO is bad

>>16796481
Is the one on the left a guy or tranny?

>>16796657
The dumbest thing is how libs and Jews think this is evidence of racism against Asians, when the same thing happened with nitrites in wines. Every wine has to have nitrites on the label now.

>>16794963
In high school 5 years ago I did a presentation for a public speaking class explaining how MSG being bad for you was a myth, and many people in the audience became noticeably confrontational and mad at me over it despite all the evidence I had presented. MSG BAD is something deeply ingrained in people, even today.
Videos like the OP's are probably keying into that same reaction, along with allowing people to feel smart for not giving into their 'programming' to hate it.
That said MSG is pretty based, though it isn't a replacement for salt at all. Personally, I use 9 parts salt 1 part MSG as a general seasoning for most things, and that seems to be the right amount.

>>16799656
6 foot slav with some mongol mixed in so technically you're correct
I'd still both kick your ass and outcook you

>>16799696
everybody look out! This guy is a real badass!

>>16799688
Why the fuck do you ask? Does it matter? Aggressor.

>>16799680
GMO means Monsanto and everyone knows they're bad, don't play dum

>>16799781
It's bayer now, actually.

>>16799795
Oh cool, I love Big Pharma!

>>16795605
>>16796036
kek

>>16796450
>Asians?

Jamaicans use it too

>>16799781
Monsanto isn't the world's sole producer of GM plants, they didn't invent it. Maybe. I though it was a banana corporation, but turns out they make agricultural chemicals. No idea where I heard about them before.

Salt makes food salty,
MSG gives you umami.

Bow.

>>16799968
what's umami?

>>16799971
savory

>>16798158
The asian did a much cleaner take-down.

>>16799971
Anime flavour

>>16794915
It's only americans, the rest of the world doesn't care/ doesn't use msg

>le MSG face

>>16794915
It doesn't go with everything but it does have its uses

>instead of salt

they're two different things with different effects on the food, if you're one of those people that thinks you can just start swapping ingredients out for different shit in a recipe and expect it to come out right then you can't be helped.

>>16795063
You're filtered by your own autism anon.

>>16795001
>t. yurotard who literally cannot function without the government giving him healthcare, transportation, and income

>>16800474

>>16794930
>he unironically latched onto the second question, completely ignoring the actual one.
you're one to be calling people names, mr. sperg.

>>16795133
What I remember about Chinese food as a young kid growing up in Hong Kong was not really that it was “bad” (which it often was, of course) but that the stuff my parents ordered for us was almost all frozen, and that I would generally throw out whatever that they brought home. This was in the days before a proper kitchen, and there was a tiny freezer unit that could only hold what was on the top shelf, and often that was some random combination of Chinese or Indian takeout. A couple of times a week we’d have what seemed like the best of everything, but the rest of the time it was pretty terrible: a frozen piece of some meat and whatever was frozen with it, a tub of rice, and maybe a can of green peas, and maybe a can of baby corn. There was a few times in my childhood when we were treated to something really good, like fresh fish that one of the waiters brought home in a plastic bag. So for my first couple of decades, I never actually ate a lot