/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Enjoy cancer

>>16891486
smuffy poof?

Wife wont let me smoke. Life is suffering.

>>16891496
well friend, you may not know this, but premium, non-inhaled tobacco carries with it little to no risk for those who do not over-indulge. There are legitimate studies done on this topic, but there is still more to learn as research into high-quality non-inhalent tobacco is not nearly as promoted or funded as cigarette mortality research is. There is even some evidence, for example a study in Denmark, that the relaxing effects of semi-regular to regular pipe smoking can actually decrease mortality in a given population due to due to reduced stress. Regardless, we are not ignorant, and are fully aware of the possible side effects of this hobby.

>>16891513
>wife
life is of the suffering
jajaja

>>16891486
how many times must you be told?

>>16891486
Is this nightcap any good? I love me some Dunhill, but usually a VA guy. That Nightcap shit just...I want to like it. Have a couple pounds of it too. How many bowls until this shit doesn't taste like shit?

>>16891545
>nooo you cant taste and enjoy something that isnt pizza or sou-vide flavor of the month noooo

How is this food or cooking?

>>16891548
you may just not like Latakia, what about the taste do you dislike?

>>16891545
/out/ sucks for pipes. Why not liven up /ck/? Or do you want another tomato gravy or sloppa floppa pizza thread instead? Fag.

>>16891560
It's way too bready and yeasty tasting. Hard to describe. Stomache churning.

>>16891564
sloppa

>>16891571
yeesh, that sounds nothing like nightcap or latakia in general. most people describe nightcap as smoky "campfire", with some figgy spice from the perique.

>>16891582
figgy pudding

>>16891582
Oh, it's got all that you say. Figgy spice campfire, aftertaste, mustache smell, OMG I'm gonna vomit is how I experience it. It's not the nicotine. Oh well, maybe I'll use it for trade when it all collapses.

Have nightcap I pull out from time to time. It's good but not enough where I want to smoke it all the time. Meanwhile I usually just go for a decent black Cavendish which seems to always be great. I guess I don't have a refined tobacco palette.

>>16891486
O.P. picrel is a fine choice, as are many of the STG offerings. I enjoy it or J.P. Quiet Nights as well when a latikia blend is in order.

>>16891564
At least they are on-topic.

nie ma nic lepszigo pod względem cygar niż powstanie

>>16891591
Bring it.

Can anyone recommend a good starter pipe? I've got plenty of tobacco experience (cigarettes, cigars, snus, snuff) but don't know anything about pipes.

>>16891654
Missouri Meerschaum

>>16891654
corn cob, nothing better, they just don't last

>>16891673
>don't last
In a relative sense. A good cob will last years for most people.

>>16891601
It won't collapse until you're far too old for your ideas and plans to matter.

>>16891732
>t. delusional dickens

>>16891654
Tell more about your tastes. Obviously you know to tobacco world to some extent..

>>16891742
>t. king of the expired spam cans

>>16891750
I'm more looking for a suggestion for the actual hardware. Something with good build quality, not made in China, good reputation for reliability/warranty, design, etc.

>>16891752
yuck!
why would i store perishables like food when i have land to farm?

>>16891765
mostly personal taste, there's nothing wrong with buying used if you can inspect it before you pay

>>16891784
Sure, bud. Post timestamped land.

>>16891799
it's night time nigger
also not doxxing myself to satiate your bum

>>16891821
>I d-deffinately have land bro and am not larping online
>for sure the reason I'm not bosting broofs is that I'm afraid le spooky anon will dox me using autistic plane vapor trails / road maps / the exif data 4chan automatically scrubs from images

>>16891765
Do you have a tobacco you think you might like? I can tell you what I like, but that might not be what you like. Are you serious? Because I don't want to type a bunch of shit unless you are. Don't fuck with me, n-word!

>>16891837
do you live in a city? every non bug owns land

>>16891854
Yeah bro, I'm sure you'll do great with that 1.5 suburban acres of le epic survivalist farmland (no farming equipment) (no animals)

>>16891859
>farming equipment
one man can farm by hand 1/4 acre
one quarter acre can produce up to 15000 pounds of produce per year
one person needs 400-600 pounds of food per year

>>16891486
Just smoked a Cornelius & Anthony Cornelius. It was okay. Had cedar, cream and coffee notes. Coffee was fleeting in the first third and morphed to a light cream and tobacco about halfway to the band. I think I got a dud, or the fact that I was smoking in literal 100% humidity may have affected it.

>>16891905
>Had cedar, cream and coffee notes.
playing the flute, are you?

>>16891900
Yeah, whenever the apocalypse comes, that'll be the year that you started gardening a year before, LMAO
PS
>appeal to statistics that apply exclusively to petrochem-boosted corporate bulk crops

>>16891922
cut it by 10 and it's still more than enough. stop being a tardo

>>16891941
The point stands that I have no reason whatsoever to believe you own land, know how to garden, have vegetables, fruits, and herbs to garden, have supposed land that is actually arable, know how to maintain your supposed land's arability, etc, etc, etc.
I do not object to doomsday prepping, and in fact I encourage it to some extent, but I do object to LARPing as something you are not to score le epic rhetorical win in an internet conversation with a stranger you will realistically never talk to again.

>>16891765
If you have a local store ask about basket pipes, or check around on the internet for them. They factory seconds the may just have a minuscule flaw that would preclude them from being sold as a premium item, but they smoke perectly.

>>16891954
>herbs
this guy?

>>16891486
How do I get into pipe-smoking?
For background, I've never smoked cigarettes, and I never intend to, but I've smoked a handful of cigars.
Captcha: KASSH

>>16891840
Alright n-word. Here you go, just to keep the thread alive here are some basic searchables. Don't buy yet. Look and learn. There's a whole lot more out there.

Smokingpipes.com

Briarworks

https://vermontfreehand.com/forever-stems/

https://www.m.ebay.com/seller?sid=farmerje&_trksid=p2349624.m3561.l4636

>>16892041
>For background, I've never smoked cigarettes, and I never intend to, but I've smoked a handful of cigars.
you're off to a good start
next step is to go to your local tobacco shop, preferably one with a slightly overweight salesman who is a psuedo expert who keeps going off about "notes of buttered rum". talk to this guy and he will give you a good starter tobacco based on what you liked from cigars and probably recommend a corn cob.

>>16892183
I would suggest a slim and light briar with an easy smoking flake VA or VAper like Light Flake, Union Square, or Escudo. A pack of cleaners, matches, and a pipe nail is all one really needs. The rest is luxury.

>>16892183
>>16892233
Thank you, you're very kind in your recommendation. There's a tobacconist in the city with a huge statue of a wooden Indian at the shopfront. When I go out to pick up some more cigars, I'll be sure to ask the fellow for his notions.

Just finished off a Montecristo Monte under an awning in the pouring rain. I don't know much about tasting notes, but it was strong, heavy and sweet. I suspect I've found a lifelong vice in this stuff.

>>16891522
>Denmark
Wow, the country that exports over 9000% of the nicotine gum in the world says smoking is totally cool and actually it cures cancer guys please start smoking today. I'm sure this study is completely legitimate and not paid for by any corporations at all.

can we have a ban on giving any advice or encouragement in thread to people not yet slaves to this habit

>>16892926
go back

why smoke cigarettes when you can smoke cigars?

man i miss cuban cigars.

I recently picked up a few oz of dark bird's eye to thicken up my cellar. It's the best thing I've ever smoked. Dark and smokey like nightcap and its shag cut so you can fire it up and puff it down quickly. Truly a working man's tobacco. I've also got some of the black irish x ropes on the way those are just supposed to taste like cooking meat or charcoal.

>>16892075
Thanks for the links.
>Vermont
Sometimes I miss my home state.

can anyone recommend me a good herb vaporizer ?
my budget is around 300$, bonus points if I can use liquid and have physical control

>>16891486
I like pipes, usually latakia blends. Nightcap, EMP, Squadron leader, Skiff mixture, SG Navy flake. Currently testing some HU tobacco blends. Also VA blends like Hal O’ the Wynd, Old Gowrie and such are really nice and mild, almost an all day smoke.

>>16892592
Funny.
The tobacconist at my local stogie shack sold a hipster a can of baccy
Me and the boys were burning sticks, smiling in the big leather chairs as Dave and Pete argued Navy vs. Marine Corps.
Hipster pulled out his briar and the tobbaconist says
You can't smoke that here.

>tfw turd world (Philippines)
Prices for imported cigars are ridiculous. I usually stock up on them when I'm overseas, but 'rona has me conserving my current stockpile of Habanos and New World cigars.
The local stuff can be decent. Picrel tastes like a discount Cuban Partagas.

my favourite

>>16891486
>tobacco
>food and cooking
Pick one little brainlet monkey.

>>16893717
I haven't had any in a while. The brown was a real kick in the gums. Tried that, blue, black, and yours.

Just got into snuff and I think its pipe and snuff from here unless I find good deals on cigars. What brands do you recommend besides Fribourg?

>>16893774
>Just got into snuff
Why would you snort your food you festering retard lmao

>>16891486
Rattray Bagpipers dream and Solani 333 for me. I like the sweet ones.

>>16893065
Overrated.

>>16891486
Holy shit the samefag TRUTH acolyte in this thread is something else.
Tobacco literally has the same tasting methods as wine and spirits and that shit is allowed on here. Is this really just a globohomo fastfood shill board?

>>16893774
The only one I've ever tried is McChrystal's menthol.

>>16893812
>Tobacco literally has the same tasting methods as wine and spirits
>>16893774
>lets just snort it though lol
I love how brainlets think tobacco belongs here, it's almost cute.

>>16893825
well nicotine is a poison and shouldn't be anywhere in your system, but you still enjoy succing on that fat cubanito bien robusto

also, /canada/ here, i ordered pic related from sweden.

took around 3 weeks to arrive. customs opened the package ans charged me 3x times the price (so for 10$ of snuss : 10$+20$ shipping + 20$duty = 50$ for two packs.

i like it but it makes my stomach hurt, so i'll just stick to cigarettes

btw i was on a 50+ nicotine gum a day habit and it really fucked me up, dont do it.

if you need to quit smoking, there is only one way, the allan carr way.

>>16893895
>50$ for two packs.
Two cans? Suck me sideways. I buy General Mint at gas stations for $4.50/can. I assume Canada prices are higher than here in the US, though. I've ordered other varieties from Sweden a couple times. Never had any trouble with duty or import tax, but the $30 shipping sucks. At least it's a flat rate and they charge the same whether you buy one can or a hundred.

>>16893895
>faggot with an oral fixation calling other people gay
Do tobaccoids really?

>>16893825

Its a fermented, consumed agricultural product

>>16893825
>Caffeine gud nicotine bad
>Tobacco is also an agricultural product, but not muh food.
>This will RUIN the board culture of /ck/!!!
Its literally one thread. Why does it make people so assmad? Did you mom put her cigarettes out on you? Do you do this in any of the umpteen sloppa threads on this slow ass board?

>>16891486
>ywn get a vintage can of dunnhill tobacco, still sealed and with the orignal paint printed lids instead of the shitty adhesive labeled ones

why even live, pipebros

>>16894108
in case you wonder what he's talking about

>>16894108
Bought a few logs of Dunhill Light Flake before they discontinued it. Enough for a lifetime. Then Smokingpipes got rights to the blend and still makes it. Shoulda hedged my investment with Syrian Latakia. It's just me, my pipe, silver and crypo from here on out I suppose. My grandchildren will be selling my aged vintage tins on ebay long after I'm gone.

>>16894155
wew. one tin of sealed light flake goes for around 90USD nowadays

LOL YOU FUCKS ARE GONNA GET MOUTH CANCER

>>16894206
No, I'm not that good at investing. I wish. I meant Flake. Started with the rectangle cans of light flake and still call it that out of habit. Still, the round cans are better for aging, so, whatever. A sealed VA never goes bad, it just gets better.

>>16894250
And holy shit, that first bowl of Light Flake. I remember it more than the first cunt I smashed. Where I was, the pipe, the smell, time of day, the weather, the experience of it all. Light Flake really got me.

>>16891642
its the same shit tho every fuckin day. Why do people moan about one thread so much?

>>16892926

>>16893174
>black irish x rope
shit is NICE, a very late night smoke, had it in my clay and it hits hard. Burnt meat, charcoal, old leather and even a hint of rubber which i kinda like.

>>16893571
Squadron leader is my current fav all day english.

>>16894015
People get mad because its a low hanging fruit and its easy to spam cancer. People who consume tobacco KNOW its bad. But people on this board are projecting as they're fucking diabetics who think "their" board going to taken over with tobacco threads.

>>16894445
It's okay. Kinda boring, but never had it in a clay pipe. Being able to get it nice and hot seems to be important with this one.

I have always wanted to get my hands on somebody's pouch of rolling tobacco and just mix my finely shredded pubes into the mix.
God I wish I can do that soon.
I want to see them take a puff and then puke their brains out when they taste the burnt ball hairs

>>16891486
THIS IS NOW AN ORAL CANCER THREAD FOR RETARDED ANONS.

>>16894452
No wonder. It’s pretty good good tobacco. Reminds me I have tin which needs to be finished.

>>16894492
That "rubber" taste might be a mix of tar and anise. What kind of tobacco is in that? Sounds good.

>>16894246
GOOD I WANNA DIE BUT IM TOO MUCH OF A PUSSY TO END IT QUICKLY GIVE ME CANCER NOW GOD

>>16894887
mostly dark fired leaf that spun in rope and steamed in olive oil

>>16891545
all you need to do is make a filter for /tbg/ and you will never see another one of these threads again

>>16891486
Can someone recommend me a cigar? Going to buy one at my local tobacco shop and I don't know what's good.

>>16895748
I recommend a Romeo y Julieta 1875. It's a very light smoke, it's made from good quality tobacco, and it's not expensive or complex enough that it would be wasted on a newcomer.
Captcha: VDV M4

>>16895748
Thats very subjective. Go for something medium bodied. Dont let them sell you on a mild. Stick to the robusto/toro size. Most of the 6/60+ donkey dicks smoke like shit and taste like shit. Lonsdales/Lanceros are great, but inexperienced smokers have trouble keeping it in the sweet spot and tent to over smoke them.
Drew Estate Undercrown Maduro has a nice meaty/savory and spicy taste.
Arturo Fuente Chateau Sungrown has a citrusy, sweet, baking spices flavor.
Padron 3000 Natural has a sweet creamy, cocoa and coffee flavor. The maduro version is good as well.
These 3 should be pretty common and have good construction and a fair price point.
Tell the tobacconist you are looking for something medium bodied and the flavor profile that interests you. Maduros are usually blended to be spicy, earthy peppery with a slight sweetness. Habanos have a sweet, savory and creamy taste with a spicy finish. Connecticuts are usually sweat, creamy, nutty tobacco, but have a very mild flavor and hard for new smokers to get the flavors out of it.

>>16895768
The 1875 is a very good smoke for beginners. The cedar and spice notes are fairly easy to pick up and it isnt too strong and incredibly common.

>>16894496

I recommend any of the Drew Estate Liga Privada line, especially the dirty fritas, T52, or No. 9.

>>16896089
Old school Liga 9s are in my top 5 all time. They dont taste the same since Nick Mellilo left. The T-52 is still decent. The Foundation Tabernacle is kinda close.

>>16896161

I never got to try old school No 9s but I smoke so much DE I even won a free raffle for a really cool pewter ashtray on their app for just logging all the fritas and coronets I smoke for points.

I do not recommend the Tabak Dulce, ACID, or Ambrosia line at all except for the Candela ACID if you want the experience of smoking green tea.

My favorite all time cigar however is Espinoza Warzones.

>>16891954
youre larping right now you fucking paedophile

Perique is tasty should have tried it sooner.

>>16896291
What?

>>16896320
hah?

>>16896291
>paedophile
you get paid for that?

>>16891601
if you try to trade somebody latakia tobacco when theyre expecting an american style tobacco theyre going to come back at night and rape you
believe me, I've tried

>>16896793

Yeah. I got a tin of Frog Morton for $50 two years ago. Glad I tried it, but not for me.

>>16891654
anything made in Italy that costs more than $50, just get a Roma
Not universal advice but answers your question. Don't overthink it. There's junk, not junk, and luxury/style/taste. If you avoid plain rotten junk it doesnt matter.
Dr. Grabow took a fucking dive. 15 years ago they were so good it didnt even make sense to buy a "nice" pipe, what difference did it make. I bought 4 the past 2 years and theyre all poorly made. Loose, off center, blemished, voids, shank cracks easily. I've got one, the shank is drilled so poorly it actually loops around to being impressive. Its like double counter bored, I cant even explain it.
-so, avoid Grabow, its a real shame but dont waste your time anymore.
Crown is pretty junky, not worth it, avoid
Get a straight pipe. The curve does the opposite of what you want it to. Straight pipes smoke drier. If you wane a curve ignore my advice because the entire point is to make yourself happy, but if you know nothing start with a straight so you don't gurgle spit like a saxophone.
Honestly just pay the $110x2 and get two above average pipes. If you can't afford about $300 on a luxury hobby you're not going to enjoy smoking because you'll be thinking about your power bill while you puff. Just pony up and grab what you have your eye on, you know you have something in mind and you know you want to.

>>16896845

I want to add to this poster to NOT get a "Gandalf" churchwarden. Though it may seem cool they're memes.

If cost really is a factor get a cob pipe from Missouri Meerschaum and abuse it as much as you like. Also, nice starter pipes to even determine if you like the hobby. They smoke cool and don't need the training of a briar.

>>16896933

And adding to mine, when you do upgrade get a freehand Nording.

Are all the campaigns about tobacco companies wanting kids to smoke actually true or just schizo tier fear mongering?

>>16896995
Well all their customers are dead and vapes are closer than ever to getting seriously regulated
They have to keep their customer base somehow
Phillip Morris has been trending down for a few years now and it used to NEVER go down

>>16896995
Tobacco companies' highest profit product tends to kill off their best customers, so of course they're looking for a new crop every year. Lord knows that those smarmy anti-smoking ads that big tobacco had to pay for were so annoying that they had me contemplating starting smoking as a counter protest despite having lost grandparents and parents who smoked like chimneys to smoking related diseases. I doubt that was accidental.

>>16897018
>>16897031
Should have worded that better. I meant actively going for kids. I'm sure they want to, anything that can make them more money. But is there any evidence they're actively going after kids in any way? Most of what I see just seems to be grasping at straws to tie it in with saying it's advertising towards children.

>>16897068
They're not stupid enough to leave another smoking gun lying about, anon. I'd argue that anything that portrays smoking as undesirable, rude, or self-destructive is going to get teens and preteens to give it a shot, just as an act of rebellion. A shot is all it takes for many people.
Hell, when my mom was in hospice, she hadn't smoked in 30 years or more. The second to last time I saw her she asked me to smuggle in two things: her cat, so she could say goodbye; and a pack of Winstons, because she could really use one.

>>16897157
Are you saying they using reverse psychology tricks to get kids to smoke? Sounds kinda schizo. All those anti campaigns claim anything that makes smoking look cool is done by tobacco companies, which also sounds schizo.

>>16897174
>reverse psychology tricks
No reverse at all anon. teens, and some preteens, rebel; that's part of growing into their own person.

>>16897192
Whatever. That's still schizo.

>>16897213
Read some Marshall McLuhan, then tell me I'm schizo.

>>16896995
>>16897174
>>16897213
I'm tired of double-digit IQs misusing the word 'schizo' to talk about topics they don't understand or things they think are statistically unlikely.

>>16891496
>>16891554
>>16892926
>>16893937
>>16893825
>>16894502
>>16894246

bump

>>16894452
Are the Gawith's blends really that good?

Also is Germain, McClelland, and Esoterica really that good?

Are the memes ever worth it?

>>16897347

They make the snuff that MPs can take at the door of Parliament (Gawaith). Good brand. I like Fribourg and Treyer, and Sutliff as well.

>>16895748
Fuente Hemingway signature. I usually like the Hemingway Short Stories slightly better, but they have been tasting strange recently.

>>16897302
Schizoid detected.

>>16893825
t.
Fast food and obesity kills and costs more to the taxpayer than tobacco and alcohol combined.

>>16897535
>tasting strange recently
Covid?

>>16897302
Take your meds.

>>16897659
Nah, just not like they should be. Bitter, harsh. Not blended well. I got a box that I'm really not happy with. I'm letting them age for a year or two, but I'm not optimistic.

>>16891486
All right, anons, looking at the actuary tables, if I start smoking now, I'll die of something unrelated before the demon weed does me in. What do you suggest for an older absolute beginner?

>>16897841
Pipe, cigar? What ...I don't know. Your question needs more context. What I like and suits me may not be what you like and suits you.

>>16897857
Cigarettes are way out, since I grew up hating them. Pipe, cigar, peace-pipe: throw me an idea or two, anons.

>>16897866
Cigars are pretty brainless, but take a time commitment. Pipes take a little bit of skill and learning, but are more convenient. They taste way different. You have a preference?

I've wanted to try dry snuff once. Anyone have one to recommend? To be clear, I mean the dry, finely ground tobacco that you snort.

how do you put out a cigar?

>>16897887
Toss it over the fence. Not my problem.

>>16897882
I've encountered both cigar and pipe tobacco that smelled fantastic, even when light. Cigars seem to require a longer time commitment than pipes, so start with a pipe first, start with a cigar second.

>>16897900
Get a small cob until you know what you want in a pipe. I know damn well what I like in a good briar, and it's not the same as anyone else. A pack of pipe cleaners. A pipe nail. A mason jar for tobacco. A pack of wood matches and/or a zippo with a pipe insert. Maybe you want to smoke aromatic incense, which is disgusting, but C&D is a place to start. Or just get some Orlik Golden Slice to start with real tobacco. It's cheap and pretty good.

>>16897928
Thanks anon; that's actually useful.

Gambler pipe tobacco out of 'pack your own' filtered tubes all day erry day

>>16891551

lol'd

So where do say suggest we post about tobacco then, pray tell?

>>16898149
try reddit

>>16897618
>costs more to the taxpayer

God damn, are you in your fucking 40s?

>>16898151
Your mom won't let me

>>16897887
Snuff it in the ashtray when it's finished. Or flush it down a public toilet. Not my problem.

>>16898151

It's a fermented, aged, crafted, consumed, tasted, judged, agricultural product. Just because your lardass doesn't get to eat it does not mean that we cannot discuss blends and flavor profiles of tobacco. Lardass.

>>16891496
I will

>>16897887
Let it die gracefully. Don’t start a cigar you’re not going to see through to the end. If you snuff it, it will stink horribly and if you try to save it for later you’ll end up tossing it after a few puffs and wish you hadn’t.

>>16897887
cut the ash off

>>16892910
that's sweden you fucking retard

>>16900030
That acridness is settled within the body of the cigar if you cut off the ashed end and stow it. It’s why the flavor blossoms and changes as you get further down the stick.
>t. tobacconist

Bumping for the sole purpose of making anti-tobaccofags cry and piss

>>16895748
Three sizes to look for: Corona, Robusto, Toro.

None of these are sexy sizes-they’re all pretty affordable, so they don’t make the retailers as much money-but what they are excellent at is giving the smoker the best balance of flavorful wrapper with mild filler tobaccos. And their size is not so huge that you are smoking them all day, or can’t stand up afterwards from the nicotine knocking you on your ass.

Leave the huge sizes for the gangstas, wannabes, and show-offs. When you want to know what the fuss of a cigar is about, those are the sizes to look for.

anyone had odens snus?
seems to be the only one I can get easily in the uk

Maybe a silly question, maybe not.
I'm kind of a fresh smoker. I don't even really consider myself one because realistically, I smoke maybe once a year, but I bought a pack of American Spirits Black (long story).
I've been chipping away at it for the last two weeks, and sometimes I just feel at capacity for the day.
I smoked 6 cigs over the course of the day, and the idea of smoking another one right now is just making me feel sick. I'm guessing it's just a inexperienced person getting their shit kicked in, but I am curious if even more regular smokers experience this.

>>16891486
I've always been a fan of Drew Estates. I particularly like their dirt torpedoes.

>>16901027
Don’t force yourself to smoke more if you don’t want to. That’s how you get addicted, because most chainsmokers only do it socially on breaks at their jobs where they smoke with other people and talk about the Packers game or some shit, and then they get the nicotine hit as well as the feeling of being “cool” and “accepted.” Smoking doesn’t make you cool but you can make smoking cool by not forcing yourself to like something if you don’t like it. Also cigarettes in general are literal floor sweeping acrid ass tobacco that is only there to give you relief until your next cigarette. Two cigs a day is enough to make me feel like shit, let alone six. Cigars and pipes are meant to be cheeked rather than inhaled, because you’re trying to smoke it for the flavor of the tobacco rather than getting a shitty nicotine buzz. Even a Dutch Master or Swisher will always taste better than cigarettes.

>>16891522
>>16891486
how do i get less stress when smoking, i rage because the pipe goes out every 5 minutes and i have to puff like a madman to get it going again making me lightheaded

>>16900901
desu toro is the most popular and move the fastest and lot of new world cigars are blended in toro/robusto. If they are worth their salt they arent worried about what vitola as long as you are friendly and dont waste their time.

>>16899485
This.

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>>16900582
so what do? i'd like to try cigars but don't want to smoke a whole one? is pipe smoking for me?

>>16901793
Just get cigarillos instead

>>16901793
Sure. Do a pipe. Lots of suggestions in the thread. Cigars are like coffee, pipes are like tea.

>>16900988
It's typically strong. I've tried several flavors and none really taste of tobacco. Very chemical feeling in the lip. If you want a strong nicotine hit they'll do the trick, though they're weaker than ultra strong shit like Siberia.

>>16901204
Look up the frank method and do it. Then when you tamp dont tamp the middle at all use the shovel and tamp around the outside as close as you can get to the wall of the bowl very lightly. Only tamp if the bowl is going out. If you are half way through a bowl and it keeps going out dump the ash and try again. Smoking a pipe is a journey try to relax and have faith that you will learn how to smoke better.

>>16901793
>so what do?
cut the ash, it works fine for a second light

>>16901793
You have to make the time for a whole one. Dont try to squeeze it where it doesn't fit. Smoking a cigar is probably one of the few moments in your life where you can be focused on one thing, dont waste it. Even a pipe cant be rushed. If you want quick nicotine try snus or snuff.

>>16901928
It’s not a good idea because >>16900582 That smoke and light water vapor that got too cold while your cigar was burning out or worse snuffed out will settle inside the rest of the unburnt cigar and it will taste bad. It will ruin more of the objective qualities of a good cigar much faster if you burn it partially then let it settle than it just getting old in its packaging. Even in bad ones it is remarkably noticeable. My point in other posts was to suggest that if a cigar should be enjoyed at all, it should be done with the intention that it is completed. Call me an autist, and I’ll accept that since this is truly an interesting hobby for me, but go ahead and smoke anything from Walgreens Dutch Masters to some decent Romeo y Julietas and tell me that the taste will be the same if you smoked it straight through to nub or if you snuffed it and then revisited it.

>>16891545
that fucking image kek

>>16902663
>That smoke and light water vapor that got too cold while your cigar was burning out or worse snuffed out will settle inside the rest of the unburnt cigar and it will taste bad.
You really should understand how cigars work before speaking. You're heating up tobacco leave to release oils. Those oils collect on the unburnt tobacco. That accumulation of oils causes flavors to change over the course of the cigar. What happens when you snuff your cigar out? Those collected oils now start oxidizing and going rancid. Further more, those oils have trapped a shitload of burnt particulate carbon. Thats what you're going to taste. Cutting off your ash is not going to clean your remaining tobacco.

>>16900192
yeah you're right fertin pharma doesn't exist

>>16891486
I don’t use tobacco much anymore, save for the occasional cigar with family. When I go camping though, I always buy a bag of redman, but I camp so rarely these days.

I'm surprised I don't see the "is plume real" argument in these threads.

>>16903397
of course it is, you'd have to be a retard to deny it happens

frens how do I into rolling my own cigs

>>16905222
Checked. I buy pic related (Ryback Gold, not Ryback) for about $20 per pound from 4Noggins. I buy RAW rolling papers in bulk from Amazon. I roll up pieces of thin cardboard as filter tips. Ryback Gold is fine shag cut just like Drum or Peter Stokeybye which is perfect for rolling and it's technically sold as pipe tobacco, so it's significantly cheaper than any decent rolling tobacco. It's also flue cured strong stuff. Three Sails is from the same brand. It's a lot milder and it's also finely shag cut.

>>16905664
Are you my dad?
>I roll up pieces of thin cardboard as filter tips
Wait, no, even my dad wasn't this cheap, he used Zig-Zag tubes

>>16905670
>Zig-Zag tubes
It's honestly not about being cheap, although I am generally cheap. Those cigarette tubes and cigarette papers are treated with some retardant chemicals so they put themselves out. They also taste gross and bleached to me. I much prefer RAW papers or something similar.

>>16905703
I'm a big fan of raw 300s. Cheap, top tier papers to have around just in case you feel like a rollie or joint.

>>16901885
which ones have you had? i'm looking at the no 2 and the lakrits
i've only really had nicotine pouches which are sold everywhere here, but odens sells through some loophole with the isle of man

>>16905812
>which ones have you had?
Of Oden's? Extreme Cold white dry, Original portion, Extreme Double Mint white dry, Extra Strong Original, and Melon. Do you prefer less or more drip?

>>16905976
no clue only had nicotine pouches
nordic spirit doesn't have much drip

>>16905994
If all you can get is Oden's, and you're used to not much drip, pick anything that has "dry" in the name. White portions by nature are drier than original, "dry" white even dryer.

I've had my nightcap open in a mason jar now for about a month and it smells like bbq sauce now. This nightcap is truly some magic stuff.

>>16891486
I usually smoke American Spirits but every once in a while I'll get Dunhills or Nat Sherman's. I do pipes and cigars every now and then. I enjoy op's pic related, it was the first pipe tobacco I've ever bought along with Seattle Pipe Club's Plumb Pudding. With cigars I smoke a bit of everything except the real cheap garbage. Punch cigars are quite nice for their price . I also like Romeo y Julieta, Montecristo. Acid, and CAO. I am actually about to make some of my own cigars in the neat future, my wife knows a few people who live in the DR that can send us some very good stuff for a great price so I figured I might as well try my hand at making some primo hand rolled cigars. I love drinking coffee and/or liquor with tobacco. It's usually cigarettes with coffee but sometimes I'll smoke a smallish stick with it. Liquor & tobacco is probably my favorite combination. With cigars I really enjoy a good cognac or brandy, I like smoking a pipe with bourbon & irish whiskey, cigarettes work great with all of them. The only tobacco products I don't really mess with are chew, snus, or dip. I still remember when I had to go to smoke shops to find American Spirits, it was back when I bought these amazing flavored cigarettes from Belgium called Sweet Dreams. Cherry was my favorite, I got a few of my friends hooked on those things and then a little bit afterwards they outlawed flavored cigarettes in the states. I was pretty upset at first but after a while I started seeing AS everywhere. Smokers who weren't around back then have it pretty good because you can find them everywhere now but they missed out on some pretty sweet deals. They would mail free cartons to anyone over 21 that wanted to try them out and they weren't that cheap back then either. Before I found out about Spirits I was smoking nothing but trash like camel filters and Newports if I wanted menthol. Glad those days are over

>>16906567
That's what D&R Ryback Gold >>16905664 smells like. Smoky bbq sauce. Too bad it doesn't taste quite like it smells.

>The Big Sniff

>>16907283

I just huffed some Old Paris from Fribourg and Treyer. Got some Wilsons of Sharrow blends and Toque coming in the post - Cairo, Pumpkin, Rows of Sharrow (can't find Samuel Gawaith Rose). Snuff is wonderful truly patrician. Id Paypal anyone who could ship me English Rose Gawaith.

what site to buy online

>>16905664
Just finished 8oz of Ryback Gold. I like both Rybacks but gold is definitely better for cigarettes. Still haven't tried the DR Rimboche. Gonna get that or Cockstrong which I've had this time.

>>16907635
Pipes and Cigars
Smokingpipes
4 Noggins

>>16891496
Cigarette sales rose in 2020

>>16891545
I mean, you technically don't swallow gum either but its still considered food

>>16907550
Based sniff connoisseur.

>>16891522
>non-inhaled
but then what's the point?

>>16901923
thanks ill try it next time anon. getting colder now so not many chances left to smoke

noob question if ive had a pouch or tin of tobacco for a while should it be moist or dry? if its dried out can i moisten it somehow or is it ruined

>>16891486
Is there any real difference to a cigarette buzz and pipe tobacco , or flavor?

Because I’ve come to not like the buzz and taste of cigarette, buzz makes me too lightheaded , then I feel weird for the next 20 minutes instead of relaxed, like most cig smokers, and the taste is so flavorless. Compared with something like weed where I’d much prefer smoking over vaping because it’s flavorful

AS HE LIGHTS AN AMERICAN SPIRIT, HE ASKS HOW I CAN SMOKE SUCH SHIT

I SAY THERE'S NOTHING LIKE CHAIN SMOKING GPC CIGARETTES

COZ ANY SMOKES WILL KILL YA, BUT THESE WILL MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE IT

>>16908733
The taste...

>>16907953
most people swallow gum

>>16909562
i bet you swallow cum aha

do you?

>>16901027
Save yourself and start vaping

I just watched this episode of the twilight zone and now I want a culebra like Burgess was smoking

>>16892926
This so cringe holy fuck. Kill yourself

so are we gonna get a weed general too or what 'cause it's weird 4chan has nowhere to talk about it

>>16911288
I’d say the only place that would have served as a board for recreational shit like this was 420chan. Even /wooo/ had a recreational drug section.

>>16907658
>DR Rimboche
Is that fine shag cut like Ryback Gold? What about Cockstrong? If you like the strong dark stuff you might want to try pic related.

>>16901142
>Even a Dutch Master or Swisher will always taste better than cigarettes.
Not if you RYO with good tobacco. Can't even imagine smoking a Swisher without weed rolled in it. They have to taste disgusting. Haven't smoked a blunt in probably 10 years now.

>>16891564
>>16891642
If this general becomes too much of a problem, it'll become its own board

>going to be too cold to sit outside and smoke cigars in a few weeks
>can’t smoke inside
Smoking room bros, what’s it like to be a stud, ballsy and not take no shit?

>>16911288
Imagine actually smoking the negro's herb. Couldn't be me.

>>16913543
It's from China and it was smoked by the Scythians.

>>16908937
Cigarettes are made with low-quality baccy because they're meant to be fully inhaled over short periods with minimal tasting.
Pipe tobacco is generally high-quality, and its smoke is potent enough that you'll probably get a serious head-rush if you just suck it back like a cigarette. You seem to have a high nicotine sensitivity, so I'd recommend just puffing pipe tobacco without inhaling.

>>16892926
This, but about porn.

>>16913547
Yes, and now it's grown around the world and smoked exclusively by the lower races and men who are terrified of having to think on the circumstances of their lives and the world at large.

>>16913577
Depends. A lot of people get high because they live truly shit lives and yeah, they can't get through it sober. I'm lucky enough not to be in that position. I don't know why you'd shit on the people who are, though.

>>16913597
Because escaping reality through irresponsible substance use is never the best course of action in any situation, except in the case of severe mental illness.

>>16911568
Rimboche SJ is like AS Black apparently. As far as I can tell it's like a medium shag, def not as fine as RG or 3S. Cockstrong is sort of medium flakey shag and is nice for cigs. It's good. Sort of like a medium Camel cigarillo in flavor. GH looks top shelf but it's 4x the price so I havent tried it. Also want to try 5 Brothers.

>>16891513
Beat her into submission, it’s the only way anon.

>>16913577
>t. hasn't gotten a raise in several years.

>>16907550

I may have asked this before in an older thread, but I'm too lazy to rummage through the archive site(s).
Do you (or another anon) know an EU site that ships to other EU countries? All the sites I've looked at (from Germany, Austria and even Poland) mention that they only ship inside their countries.

>>16913813
Forgot to mention that I'm specifically interested in sites selling sniff.

>>16913789
Patently false. I'm curious- what leads you to draw a mental association between "not being a weed-smoking faggot" and "not making good money?"

>>16913843
If commerce between European states is anything like commerce between American ones, you're probably better off having a local tobacconist order whatever you're looking for on your behalf.

>>16914086
>smoked exclusively by the lower races and men who are terrified of having to think on the circumstances of their lives and the world at large.
Rec weed is going to be a $42b industry by 2026. Negroes don't have that kind of cheddar buddy. You seem like a white who is upset their life has started to stagnate. The years have crept by you, sweeping your dreams along never to be reached.

what are some other leaves that can be smoked other than tobacco, marijuana, and hemp?

>>16891513
https://youtu.be/k4R5wZs8cxI
Put her in her place

>>16914196
Replied to the wrong post there, bud.
Sure, and recreational opioids are going to be a $42b industry by 2036. Do you really think that you can ignore the fact that the world is consistently getting worse by mentally re-casting anyone who talks about that fact as some kind of butthurt stagnant boomer?
P.S. stop smoking weed, I can hear the slap of your man-tits and belly fat from here.

>>16914203
Damiana, mullein, and white sage come to mind. Clove cigarettes are nice, too.
If you're not concerned with getting some kind of body high off of them, there are plenty of plants you can safely smoke for their flavors and aromas.

>>16914467
>the world is consistently getting worse by mentally re-casting anyone who talks about that fact as some kind of butthurt stagnant boomer?
There it is. The white victimhood. The world you grew up in is gone. Those uppity negroes aren't getting 10 year sentences for having an eighth in a pack of white owls and OUR DAUGHTERS are out dancing all night with them. World started rolling downhill when they elected that muslim twice.

>>16914592
>things are getting worse
>haha see, because you said that that means you are the silly meme character I made up in my head to get myself mad at you
Whatever you say, fat boy. You know everyone can smell it on you, right? Especially when you think they can't.

>>16914086
Found a German site that ships to other countries.
Their prices are pretty decent, but the selection is rather small (only Poschl and Bernard), and they only offer 10-gram boxes for most of their snuffs.

>buy an ounce of high-quality aromatic Cavendish
>get home
>it's raining
>no smoking allowed in my building
>no porch on my building
>rains for 3 days
>still raining now
>mfw

hey /tbg/ whats your thoughts on rocky patel's vintage 1999

>>16915027
99% of patels are garbage.
>>16914842
Post those fat white fingers.

>>16915027
The 'Patel' in the name doesn't give you any idea of the quality?
>>16915068
Right back at you, Mr. Endocrine Disruptor Smoker, though that term of address may by now be outdated.

Pic related is what I've been smoking recently. I get them everytime I see them. Definitely worth trying if you like Spirits.

>>16915162
i like those better than turquoise and light green

>>16915097
Hands so nice we used to use them to start threads. Post those swollen pink sausages Mr. Dactylitis.

How do I avoid getting a numb swollen mouth from pipe smoking? just slow down?

>>16915891
Yep.

>https://pipesmagazine.com/blog/put-that-in-your-pipe/keeping-your-cool/

>>16908952
Never thought I'd run into another Johnny Hobo fan here of all places! Extremely based! FYI Pat is a computer programmer these days, dude even has a LinkedIn account, crazy shit.

where do you apartment bros smoke your cigars now that winters coming? its too cold to sit on my back deck now :(

>>16916392
I used to go play pennyslots just so I could smoke.

>>16915891
Have you tried not smoking?

>>16915891
use a churchwarden and take small spaced out sips

>>16914924
i feel ya pain, live i back to back housing with no garden and it rains all the time in the UK

>>16897347
Gawith is really good just needs a lot of drying out, cant speak for the others as we cannot get them in the uk.

Any good beginner mellow/mild cigar recs? I've only had one cigar in my life and it was pretty heavy so I want to try again

>>16891496
>nightcap
doesn't tobacco keep you up?

Trying to get cigar "enjoyment" down. Promotions at work put me in a situation where I now end up having to hobnob with an old boy's club that are pretty into cigars socially (while on the clock).

I bought a few random samplers of brands and tried to learn how to enjoy a cigar. I got a 12 pack of random Oliva cigars- the ones I remember were a Cameroon nub, serie g, serie o, "wrath" Maduro and robusto, and some others were there too but I can't recall their names.

I tried to allot an hour to each, which was likely too short for many of them. I've never smoked before in my life, and I managed to avoid mistakes like smoke inhalation or letting the cigar unwrap.

Only one of them struck me as "fun", one of the serie Gs. I think those are on the milder side of medium? I don't think any of the others I tried graded as very bold, but it was not the boldest or mildest, it just seemed to "click" and I liked it. Most of the others I may as well have just been puffing smoke for an hour. I didn't taste or feel anything. But that particular one was enjoyable and I'm not sure what made it that way.

I bought another sampler that has some of those serie Gs again, but also has their "premium" cigar, a V melanio. I don't know how much is marketing or what, I guess I'm looking forward to trying it, although it is considerably bolder.

I did buy a guillotine cutter. I had been using a cheap V cutter and it didn't seem to be enough for some of the cigars i tried, and once I continued to cut after getting a poor draw, ended up overdoing it, and gave myself a horrible headache.

I'm trying to figure it out, I guess. I'm not really a sit and relax type. I've tried to hang out in the backyard with my dog while smoking and throw a ball for him the whole time. He likes it at least. Whatever the magic was in that one cigar is something I would like to recapture though.

>>16917883
Perdomo 10th anny champagne

>>16915241
They are my favorite now but I like both of those too. I like the blacks but I don't smoke them that often because they're strong as hell

>>16891486
>stimulant before bed
Great idea, m8

>>16919183
What happens after you stimulate an exhausted body?

>>16891486
Like a Phoenix rising from cigar ash

Man fuck I really want to pick up a monster mash and a few karloffs :/

No better way to start a day.

>>16919278
You prevent it from falling asleep, i.e. giving it what it actually needs to stop being exhausted

>>16921822
So what happens when that exhausted body gets more tired after being prevented from falling asleep?

>>16922424
You get dumber, less productive and dependent on stimulants to function

>>16922519
>You get dumber, less productive
That's the entire purpose of sleep.
>dependent on stimulants to function
Thats not how sleep works.

>>16910378
Almost bought a trio when I saw them at a shop. Even told the guy about this episode, haha.

Bump.

>>16914203
>>16914479
Kinnikinnick is a good one too. There are recipes at the bottom.
https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare/herbal-references/general/2/Herbal.Smoking.Mixtures

>>16925928
Thanks for this

>>16922668
>>You get dumber, less productive
>That's the entire purpose of sleep
I think you mean preventong that is the purpose of sleep. Then I agree and proved that depriving yourself of healthy sleeping schedule by taking stimulants before bed is dumb

Polearm or heavy polearm?

>>16891554
cant even report this shit anymore, jannies are utter retards

>>16926285
dont be like this

>>16917981
all they had was perdomo habano

im starting to think i wont be able to enjoy cigars. ive already tried two that are supposedly "mild" and its still a pretty strong flavor that makes me nauseous by the end of it

>>16927972
>72▶
>>>16917981
r u inhaling

>>16928018
no but the smoke does go up my nose often. maybe it was just too windy when i was outside doing in, i never purposly inhaled smoke but it found its way inside me. i guess i got spoiled with pipe tobacco being sweeter and milder and cigars are pretty intense

>>16913620
>Because escaping reality through irresponsible substance use is never the best course of action in any situation
For many the only other option is suicide.

>>16891496
how does one enjoy a bad thing. are you dumb?

>>16891486
Getting on zyn, thoughts on that? It's getting too cold to enjoy ciggies and I'm spending too much time a day doing it

>>16928029
Might be you're taking too big a drag.

>>16928368
Zyn, On, Velo, all that chemical nicotine pouch shit is flavorless. Try snus. Actual snus from Sweden, not the sugary shit Camel and other American brands market as "snus."

>>16928409
thats possible. i dont have any smoking friends so im just going at it blind. i should probably watch some videos on how to smoke a cigar so i can get it right

>>16893421
Go with Arizer brand. You'll have to look at the models to see what suits your needs. They have from pocket sized to table top. You can't go wrong with them. Also, they often have half price sales and I'm sure they'll have a black friday type sale soon.

>>16923326
My local shop has them but it’s just the Tatuaje. Comes in a cedar coffin, 3 of them wrapped like the culebra and one regular style. Pretty fucking good, no draw or burn problems and tastes great. If you see it, I recommend.

>>16928436
It's probably the nicotine. It gets absorbed through your mouth and can sneak up on you. Slow down on the puffs and have a can of sugary soda nearby to sip.

>>16928805
Thanks anon. Does drinking whiskey or brandy or whatever the usual parings are with cigars make any difference?

>>16928842
Whiskey may taste good with your smoke but it's not gonna help when you start turning green. Sip the whiskey, have a smoke, keep a can of coke on hand for emergency first aid.

>>16895748
cohiba red dot

>>16893421
Underdogs are the absolute best herb vape. You can do waxes and liquids but not optimally, but theres nothing more efficient than a log vape.

>>16928784
Tatuajes are based.

Leafbros what do you recommend smoking for a cigarette newfag

>>16929513
american spirit

>>16913620
You act like smoking a cigarette and banging a fat shot of some choice skag is equivalent.

>>16921212
Lorazepam to start a day? What are you worried about anon?

>>16891496
Cancer gets just about anyone past 50 anyway.

>>16891496
Tobacco does not cause cancer. Prove it does without resorting to shit tier epidemological studies.

>>16891486
I really don't wanna go back. I'm gonna end up buying a pack and smoking 3 or 5 cigs at the most before feeling bad and throwing the whole pack away.

just smoked up the last my can of pic related, what should I get next if I want something new, but in the same vein?

Im drunk and want ciggsattes. Do i go buy?

>>16931069
The answer is always yes.

if /alck/ is not food and cooking then this is definitely not food and cooking
do your job islamic tranny jannies

>>16932232
I think the reason the jannies shitcanned al/ck/ was because it was 90% anons complaining about their lives and basically nothing about the actual fucking alcohol. Contrast with tobacco threads and you'll see much more actual discussion. That's not to say I didn't enjoy the alcoholism threads while they lasted.

>>16932232
I put the baccy in my pipe, I cook it with my Zippo lighter, simple as

>>16929794
Weed isn't a cigarette, double-n'wah.