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>>17708700
No. They are hotdogs.

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>>17708700
Maybe. The bun really was just an edible holding device meant to keep grease off the fingers. Here in the US our fat asses decided to make the holder sweet and enormous for no reason. In Germany youll often see a giant sausage with a bun the size of your palm

https://www.colliganlaw.com/is-a-hotdog-a-sandwich-yes-according-to-new-york-state-law-it-is/

According to New York they are

>>17708700
Absolutely fucking not. Jesus Christ.

could be, i don’t think we’ll ever know however. it’s not as good as an italian sub though

A pop tart is a sandwich

>>17708700
It's a pastry.

>>17708700
Vegetable

hot dog

>>17708905
bruh

Technically, yes.
It serves all the same purposes of a sandwich, and the Duke of Earl himself would be proud that it takes the fork out of the equation.

Legally, however, there's a different story.
There was a court ruling in Massachusetts regarding a dispute in a mall food court that had a non-compete clause in the lease prohibiting stands from selling similar food items.
The sandwich stand (Panera) tried to have a neighboring taco stand (Qdoba) removed on the grounds that tortillas were bread-items, and that placing meat between bread served as direct competition.

The court ruled in Qdoba's favor on the grounds that the tortillas aren't actually separate slices of bread. Logically, this could possibly apply to hot dogs, too, on the grounds that it's a roll that's only partially split down the center. But that also leaves an open question for where po'boys and subs fit in the picture, and raises more problems than it actually solves.


https://web.archive.org/web/20081207062109/http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2006/11/10/arguments_spread_thick

>>17708905

Everything in existence is a dumpling. All of reality is dumplings. Every food is a dumpling knock off.

>>17708700
A hotdog is a taco.

dan get off 4chan

>>17708705
Fpbp

>>17708700
A hotdog is a taco.

>>17708700
>>17708705
>>17708850
>>17708914
>>17708946
>>17709001

riddle me this, almost everyone would consider a hoagie with meat but no cheese a sandwich and it is built on a piece of soft bread that is hinge cut like a hot dog bun. How can you call the hoagie a sandwich but not the hot dog? A hot dog is a sandwich.

>>17709823
Hotdog is a hotdog. Hoagie is a hogie.

>>17708914
>can contain any food inside any containing food
structure rebel you're drunk

>>17708836
No one cares what Jew York thinks

>>17708700
>Are hotdogs sandwiches?
no

>>17709765
a hotdog is a hotdog only.

>>17709823
poor people will eat hot dogs with white bread slices, and its still a hot dog, not a "wiener sandwich". a hot dog is ontologically different from a sandwich

>>17710353
Grade A retard logic. A perfect failure in argumentation.
No one calls hamburgers "a ground beef patty sandwich, even when they're made with sliced bread instead of buns.
By your logic, hamburgers are ontologically different than sandwiches.

This isn't an issue of ontology whatsoever.
This is an issue of colloquial ubiquity where the items in question (hamburger patties or hotdogs) are so firmly associated with a method of preparation that it represents the dish as a whole. The extent that even the buns themselves came to be named after the food they're associated with, even if they are just standard rolls.

>>17708700
Trump is looking into this question in a very big way

Is this soup?

>>17708700
A hotdog isn't sliced meat and the bread is a bun instead of sliced so no

>>17708700
>Are hotdogs sandwiches?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9A6ctjHAxE

>>17710882
Why does it have to be sliced?
If I stuck a full chicken breast or canned tuna on a bun, you'd still call it a sandwich.

>>17709765
Is a dumpling a calzonenow?

>>17708700
Seriously summer fag, we've been over this.

A. HOT. DOG. IS. A. SANDWICH

>>17709765

>>17710538
>hamburgers are ontologically different than sandwiches.
yes

>>17711189
>yes
There is no fundamental difference between a "ground beef patty sandwich" and a "hamburger".
That's not ontology, that's just semantics.

>>17708700
Justice Sotomayor once judged them to be sandwiches during her interview on the late show

It’s a sideways sandwich

A sidewich

>>17708700
They are more of a hoagie/po boy

>>17708700
In Chicago they are

>>17711068
its not even summer

>>17708700
Yes but if they are beef sausages then they are burgers

>>17708700
Very original thread you fucking piece of shit.

>>17711407
mad cause your shit thread about spices or something only got 3 replies, biatch?

>>17711407
HEY!

>>17711340
What is the difference between a hoagie and a grinder

>>17711404
A burger is a sandwich anyway.

>>17709823
A hoagie is classified as a roll, not a sandwich any way you look at it.

>>17711413
My spices thread is way more interesting than another unoriginal "the great debate" Reddit nonsense.

>>17711500
no it's not

>>17711450
oh no no no sweetie

>>17711440
Grinder is bread cut in half
Hoagie is bread split down the middle like a bun

>>17711446
You aren't the Earl of Sandwich

>>17708705
/thread

>>17711256
Listen dude I'm not here for a philosophy lecture.
A hot dog is a hot dog. A hamburger is a hamburger. A sandwich is a sandwich.
If you put a wiener in a bun, its a hot dog. If you put a wiener between two slices of bread, its a hot dog. If you put it between burger buns, its a hot dog. If you put it in a tortilla, its a hot dog.
If you put a burger patty between two slices of bread, its a burger. If you put it in a tortilla, its a burger. Hell, you could wrap it in lettuce or nothing at all, and its still a burger.
A sandwich is any ingredient that isn't a burger patty or a hot dog wiener between two slices of bread.
This is just common sense. A toddler could figure this out. No reason to complicate things.

>>17711935
This. Mods pin this post to end all the nonsense debates.

>>17711935
what would it be called if i put my wiener in your buns?

>>17711935
ok so what happens if you slice the hot dog into thin slices of lunchmeat then put it between bread

>>17711935
>it's a wiener

its a conspiracy by big flour to get you to buy as many bread products to suit your needs.
right now i have sliced bread, hoagie rolls, hot dog buns, burger buns and tortillas
who needs all that?

>>17712018
>no bagels

>>17708700
they're homomorphic

>>17709765
didnt expect /ck/ to be the most autistic board here

>>17712039
You must be new to 4chan.

depends

>>17711962
then its a sandwich. the hot dog sausage has to be whole for it to be a hot dog

>>17712018
They taste different

>>17710353
>hot dogs with white bread slices
That is called a hot dog sandwich.
A frankfurter ensconced in hot dog buns is NOT a sandwich.

>>17708700
Did you rip the bun into two distinct pieces on purpose prior to consuming? If yes then that instance of a 'hotdog' ceases being a hotdog and become a hotdog sandwich.

>>17708700
a hotdog is a wrap

>>17709823
A hoagie isn't a sandwich, it's a sub, by your logic a taco, wrap and burrito are all sandwiches.

>>17711573
By the definition of hotdog and hoagie on MW, it's also a sandwich then.

>>17711935
>If you put a wiener between two slices of bread, its a hot dog
Why aren't you just taking one slice of bread and folding it?

>>17709765
>Pizza is toast

>>17711935
So what is the Hamdog?

>>17712291
>pizza
>Cooked flatbread with topping
>cooked bread with topping
>cooked bread
>bread
>toast
Checks out

>>17711686
Ironic because grinder is where you go to get split down the middle

>>17711935
>A sandwich is any ingredient that isn't a burger patty or a hot dog wiener between two slices of bread.
So excluding two very specific ingredients, a sandwich is anything.
No. That is an extremely terrible way to define things. You haven't put any thought into this whatsoever.

>>17712274
A wrap needs to be covered on at least 5 of 6 sides.
Hot dog buns only cover 3, the bottom and the sides.

>>17712330
Okay, then what is a sandwich?

>>17709765
>sushi is toast

>>17710650
No starch, so it's a salad.

>>17713734
I'd probably go with. "Food enclosed in pre-baked dough, intended for consumption without utensils at room temperature."
I'm not solid on that last part. But at the very least I'd say the dough needs to be baked separately from the items it's served with.
And there's some importance where the ingredients shouldn't be something that goes bad or ruins the bread if you leave it alone for too long, like soup or ice cream.

>>17713758
what if I just have chicken

>>17713734
everybody knows what a sandwich is. stupid discussion

>>17708700
no, sandwiches are called sandwiches.

>>17714509
If the concept of the sandwich was intuitive, it would have been invented a lot earlier than it was.

>>17713758
That sushi one is stupid.
Rice is not bread. It needs to be milled into flour first.

>>17714505
That's a salad.

>>17713758
>the definition of cake is 3 razor thin layers of grain with filling
Someone needs to invert the colors here or something. Then realize you can have a single layer cake so it would be represented similar to a calzone as the images are not transparent. Then realize the definition of a cookie is "small cake".

>>17708700
ok but let's argue that the sausage is rolled into a circle and placed between a burger bun
is it a sandwich?
topologicaly it's the same

>>17708700
I don't know, but they're the ultimate poverty food.
>cheap af
>always a variety of weiners at any grocery store
>delicious eating just plain but if that gets boring you can go wild with condiments, or chili or whatever the fuck
>won't kill you as fast as ramen
When I need money fast I go weeks with just hotdogs and bottled water in my fridge.

>>17710650
No, but the ocean is a soup.

>>17716536
All sausages are poverty food.
That's just minced meat in general.

>>17708700
yes.
end of discussion.

ive reduced all foods into just three categories for simplicity's sake
sandwich - the container for the food is edible
soup - multiple food components in an inedible container
steak - one homogenous piece of food

damn bros I really want a hot dog right now, but if I eat one, I know i'm going to want a bout 3 more.

>>17720253
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYfL3nf2c6Y

Perfection. Divinity. Heaven.

>>17709765
>kolaches are sushi

>>17720506
Is that jam on the left hand dog?

>>17708700
Why does it matter?

>>17720506
If those were actual fries instead of prepackaged chips, I'd be more eager.

>>17708700
Bbb