/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>17805241
always using a textile bag
they have awesome prints too
only plebs run around with the company logo

If i'm honest it was annoying as shit when they did it where I am but it becomes you aclimatise to it pretty quickly. Is it mostly lip service to a new green world, maybe. But small steps are better than no steps. BYO bag and it's no problem it all.

>>17805241
What is a fellow NJer doing up at nearly 3 AM posting a highly state-specific topical event and making me feel like I am in a simulation?

>>17805241
Just bring in plastic ones that you have leftover and see the looks on their faces.
But seriously, plastic shopping bags are essential for the industry I'm involved in. Taking off boomers' shit-soaked diapers and hauling them outside into the dumpster. Medical waste, but at non-medical facilities.

Nice thumbnail. What dumbass state didn't do their research and is putting this into effect? Oh wait I can do simple searches. Jersey scum.

>>17805241
>go to 7-11
>buy a couple bottle sodas and some junk food
>guy hands me an oversized, rigid brown paper bag
>sodas rip through bad and i have to carry my shit individually like a retard

>not having your own slaves to carry your groceries for you
do americans really?

>>17805296
We did until some retards wanted them to count towards their population base for representatives but not allow them to vote. The south will always ruin everything.

>>17805296
poolooloo

>>17805241
just use a canvas bag, at least they can handle throwing in frozen stuff and heavy loads. still, if you've seen how much plastic they use in asia it really makes all of these campapigns in the west look ridiculous. got like four thick plastic bags at a japanese convenience store when buying a beer, some chicken and a onigiri a few years ago.

>>17805241
Who cares, minor inconvenience at most

>>17805310
mother fucker those are my garbage bags. They're handy. This is part of an anti-individualist conspiracy by big garbage bag.

>>17805310
I care, anon. I care.

>>17805241
>>17805280
do you guys know meecheS?

>>17805241
This shit is such a scam. Both in terms of emissions, cost of what it takes to make/buy, transport and how many times you have to use them to offset the aforementioned is much greater than that of the regular old plastic bags. This goes for the reusable thicker plastic ones too since many of them would take longer to degrade than the old bags. Often times people get rid of or stop using the reusable bags before that point is reached since you would have to use them hundreds of times. When the reality is that the corporations that manufacture the shit that's wrapped in plastics, make plastic containers, and large corporations in general pollute in orders of magnitudes greater than the population in general much less an individual does on their own.

Just like the carbon footprint, and some recycling campaigns (most of the plastic and shit out there can't really be recycled and if it is it makes an inferior plastic) along with carbon offsets is nothing by a ploy by these big corporations to shift the blame and responsibilities of the environmental damage they cause to you, the consumer or a way to buy themselves out of taking proper responsibility for their irresponsible practices that end up polluting the environment. Nothing will change unless they are held responsible.

If you wanna use one of these reusable bags, by all means, do it, but also take good care of it so you can use it as much as possible.

Regardless of what you have be it reusable bags or the old plastic ones the best thing you can do is use them until you can't use them any longer/they rip. That does help in the way that it helps decrease demand even if only slightly. Only real way out of this is if these companies are held accountable stop using so much goddamn plastic or find other more degradable materials or if bacteria/organisms that eats this shit are created or a combination of all because even polymers made of shit like starch are a meme too they are just as hard to break down.

>>17805353
I'll give you all my emissions. For free.

>>17805241
Shit's fucked, but not as bad as the plastic straw ban.
I don't follow NJ shit but if they try to force that it's worth calling your representative and etc. every single fucking day like a grandmother to bitch at them in the hopes they'll drop it just to get you off their back.

>>17805353
>Only real way out of this is if these companies are held accountable
Oh wow this guy really gets i-
>stop using so much goddamn plastic
Pffffhaha
Yeah man, we just need to hold polluting corporations accountable for not reusing their sandwich bags

>>17805353
Where I live, the major supermarkets transitioned to reusable bags 2 or 3 years ago. They also started selling reusable bags for $1 then. I bought 3 of them and have been using them 2-3 times a week since then and they still look good, I reckon they can serve me for probably 2 more years. The supermarket also has a policy that they replace a damaged bag for a new one for free. Politics and all the virtue signalling or what not aside, it works well for me.

>>17805402
The subtext says you can trade that in for a new one for free when it wears out.

>>17805241
It only becomes a hassle when I forget one, but in 2017 I bought a dozen real-cloth plain-no-logo large canvas bags. Keep a few in the car, couple in my backpack, randomly around the house.
They roll up enough to stick one in my pocket.
Nearly rip proof, heavier loads, far stronger than plastic, paper, or those crappy felted-pressed-recycled-polyfiber bags.
Minor shortcoming; not waterproof. Major benefit; water doesn't damage it.
Annoying shortcoming; so flexible they don't stand or stay open on their own. Benefit, you can sling, toss, crush, pull, and they hold up well. Also machine washable.
I can't go back to fragile plastic or paper bags, these canvas bags perform great.

>>17805396
Not reusing but finding alternatives. I mention it in that post near the end by either finding shit that's more easily degradable or by making bacteria that'll eat it.

>>17805402
Good on ya anon for making it work for you. It seems you take good care of your stuff and if they can last you a while even better.

>>17805291
maybe if you held the bag at the bottom instead of at the top it wouldn't have ripped

>>17805402
They don't need to fuck us on bags when they do it on every single item in the store, my man. We literally pay for these niggers to undercut foreign markets and sell at a loss.
They appear to have hiked up the liquor prices at my local, too. You can't even drink the suffering away.

>>17805497
Yeah but this thread is for complaining about bags

>>17805241
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>>17805241
It's the plastic bags or your son's testosterone and sperm count. Choose wisely.

>>17805552
Oh, so they're going to start filtering female birth control piss out of recycled municipal waters now?

>>17805241
Why is your mental wellbeing so closely tied to the use of disposable plastic bags? That sounds unhealthy. People managed without them for the entirety of human history up until the past 40-ish years.

>>17805296
Some of us aren't saudi royalty

vulcanization and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

>>17805241
In the UK they made them 5p then they made them 20p and now some places charge 40p for a simple plastic bag. Originally they said the money went towards supporting local projects but I ain't buying it

>>17805241
Fabric bags are much bigger and stronger than those disposable plastic ones. Zero chance of a gallon of milk ripping through and ruining your day. Also comes in insulated varieties.

>>17805241
Yeah it's pretty annoying but less plastic is approved by me and myself.wngtp

>>17805402
>2-3 years ago
Bruh it was 4 years ago, and really it made no difference because now every single fruit and veg comes packed in plastic.

>>17805402
enjoy your salmonella and having to buy little garbage bags for your trash cans

They got rid of plastic and put a tax on paper where I live. Truly hell

>>17805241
Buy shares in garbage bag companies

every time i think "wow new jersey is the worst state in the country" some new shit pops up making them even worse
fuck you
i went to every northern state and new jersey was the ONLY shitty one

>>17805241
Good fucking riddance
>five years ago before CA plastic ban
>buy 15 items
>gets bagged in plastic bags worse than the produce bags
>every 1-2 item gets its own bag
>all of them double bagged
>literally more shitty bags than items
Fuck that shit, I'm glad they got rid of it

The multimillionaire democrat governor of jersey has a private jet and a 23 room villa in Italy that he sits in and laughs at the idiots of new jersey for being so fucking stupid.

>taking my plastic bags away
What will I line my small garbage bins with now? Fuck.

>put the ban in place in NM about february of 2022, right around when covid was kicking up
>literally no one adhered to it
>government "put a delay on it going into effect"
>come 2022
>they repeal it entirely
kek.
That said, I actually enjoy the couple bags I got for free around when it first went into effect, they were decent quality and I use them to haul 2ls if I'm buying for a party or some shit, or keep boxes contained since there's no risk of corners tearing the plastic.

I like the paper bags more. I hope they make a comeback.

>>17805353
>muh carbon footprint
>muh greenwashing
>muh whatever
don't care. i hate seeing cheap plastic trash everywhere. if it was only the city then i wouldn't care, but the wind carries it outside, and stupid urbanites bring their cheap plastic crap to the country and drop it everywhere. i want everything from restaurants to be mandated 100% biodegradable
>but muh paper straws
still don't care. only poor idiots eat fast food crap "on the go" anyway. take your food home and eat it with real utensils made out of real materials like a civilized human being and not a barely-sentient food-to-shit pipeline.

>>17807464
I don't want my food to be sentient

>>17805281
>Just bring in plastic ones that you have leftover and see the looks on their faces.

My mom literally has been doing this with quality plastic vons bags for years. No one cares.

>>17807459
New Jersey banned paper bags too because science

>>17807464
I don't think we were in disagreement. I was saying the shit you quoted was a scam pushed by large corporations in order to shift the blame and in the end I wanted plastics to be replaced by something biodegradable.

I've already been bringing my own cloth tote bags for years now. Even without the obvious factor of being good for the environment, it's still just better in every way. Fit more shit in them. They never break. Looks better. Less trips to the car when unloading because fewer bags. No waste filling up my trash. Keeps cold stuff frozen longer. And you save a little money at stores like aldi because there won't be a bag fee. Feels good being a cloth tote King.

>>17807302
I don't eat meat so no salmonella for me.

Just get reusable bags and use them it's not really a big deal.
Granted it doesn't help anything. I used the thin grocery bags for trash before and also use produce bags to wrap meat so I'm pretty sure I use more plastic in total than I used to. But even if it does nothing for the environment, it makes neurotic femoids and estrogenized males feel better, and society is a compromise after all. It's not really a hardship.

>>17805241
Just carry a reusable bag in your f150 fatasss

>>17805241
What's so hard about bringing a few textile bags with you when you go shopping?
1) They don't rip if shit's awkwardly placed in the bag or too heavy
2) You can buy insulated bags for cold/frozen food if you have to make other stops
3) If you don't feel like bagging, ask the cashier to use the bags you brought
4) More comfortable to carry
5) Less shit you gotta throw away when you get home
There's 5 reasons bringing your own bags is better without even mentioning the ecological benefit of having less plastic bags floating around in the world (because of the state of this site I'm assuming you're a /pol/ user who thinks it's some liberal/jewish conspiracy to make your white wives sleep with black men or something).

>>17807302
Salmonella? Most food is contained in packages. Unless you're throwing a bunch of raw food directly into the bag, you're not risking it. There are many more surfaces your food touches that could contain pathogens, including your own fingers. What a stupid worry-wart argument against reusable bags. Also, what's so hard about spending a few dollars on a box of bags for my trash cans that will last me months?

>>17805675
Hmm, you could do some research and figure out where your hard earned change is going because I'm sure that information is readily available... or just sit on your ass, complain on a japanese hobbyist imageboard and assume that it's probably going some satanic politician pedophile ring run out of pizza shops.

>>17807376
>MUHAHAHAHA! We sure showed our residents this time! We're trying to get rid of one of the worlds largest pollution sources at the expense of them needing to carry a couple fabric bags into their grocery store! Look at them walking through the parking lot with textile bags, don't they look like idiots?

>>17805241
To make up for this is save all of my plastics and throw them out of my car whenever I drive anywhere.

>>17805241
>Bring some bags with you instead of tossing more shit into landfills
This is truly a terrible injustice.

>>17805241

>Store has always provided bags for customers
>Stores take away bags
>You are now expected to buy bags for your groceries, and carry them into the store with you before you start shopping.
>Stores prices remain the same.
I'm sure the plastic bags are adding way more to carbon emissions than all the displays they use for a week, and then throw in the trash.

>>17809627
displays + plastic bags > displays

>>17809636
Wow. Very math.

>>17809648
Do you understand it tho? Just because you won't be able to get rid of all the problems doesn't mean that you shouldn't get rid of at least some of them.

>>17809657
So, get rid of the displays first. Or both at the same time. What you don't understand is that the entire point of these things is to always put the focus back into the customer, rather than the company.

>>17809671
That's true to a degree although recently customers mostly through social media have a say as well. There were cases in my country where supermarkets came up with some retarded ideas like for example pre-packaged bananas and after some customers "viral" feedback they fixed their shit.

>>17805353
i've been using my reusable bags for 10 years. i prefer it, otherwise i'm just throwing the plastic bags away anyway

>>17805241
>scare people into thinking they charge you 7 cents per plastic bag
>buy reusable bags
>OH SHIT SON, ITS A PANDEMIC
>reusable bags BANNED
>gotta get plastic bags, 7 cent charge
>OP's shit happening
yeah, okay
I fucking bought 36 reusable bags 4 years ago and i still can't use them because Chicago still banned reusable bags in my stores

>>17805241
havent been shopping yet but it makes me so mad

they banned "single-use" plastic bags and only at select businesses... nigger who the fuck says the bag is single use? i save every one of them and use them at least one extra time

Deal with it, textile bags are better anyway. Is there any reason to not use them?

>>17805281
>Taking off boomers' shit-soaked diapers and hauling them outside into the dumpster.
Why wouldn't you use trash bags for this? Is it because of cost?

>>17805310
I only really care cause I like using those bags to pick up after my dog and as trash bags for smaller bins. Used to live in Ireland and it wasn't so bad not having plastic bags

>>17805241
I have three massive insulating bags that I keep in my trunk and I just throw everything in when I’m done. Imagine letting your party pizzas thaw…

>>17805409
Its kind that you pointed that out, but you should have read the rest of the post before responding

My Aldiniggers wya wit da cardboard

>>17809769
A plastic bag is a plastic bag. Everyone has shopping bags, it's a no-cost item.

>>17805241
I carry Home Depot buckets where I shop

Not only is it plastic it's incredibly durable

>>17808051

You think a party of mega rich who just care so much about the environment would make some personal sacrifices in the name of the environment. To be fair maybe he did, and he went with a 26 room villa in a foreign nation instead of the 30. Maybe he doesnt allow fat people on his private jet to save on fuel and emissions.

>>17809788
hells to the yeah my niggy nog

>>17811446
Haw haw yeah... you got a corter for me to hol?

>>17805396
>ppppffffHAH
ok

>>17805497
At Wegmans at least the bags are pretty high quality. I'd be surprised if they profit from them at all at $1 each.

>>17805241
>live in the worst state the union
>cry about gay shit they do
fucking move the state is like 3 miles big what the fuck is the purpose of living in new jersey?

just bring a bag w you when you go to a store what's the problem

>>17811970
Genius. Can't believe no one has thought of that before. You just single handedly changed the entire grocery industry anon.

>oh no no no i need sea turtles to choke on bags to own the bleeding hearts

Neck yourself

>>17805241
Consumers are horribly inconvenienced but big companies can still package their products in single use plastic. Good job at accomplishing fucking nothing New Jersey.

I love having my own bags. I love going through self checkout and not paying for a few items and shoving them in my bags and when a wagie looks at my bags I shoot them the classic "disgruntled white woman" expression to make them feel like a creep for looking at MY property and it works every time. You should feel blessed to see my "Wine time? Mine time!" hemp bag that I use to shoplift.

>>17812128
Yeah, isn't it weird how left-wing extremists only ever target the least powerful people in society for their draconian rules, but never hold the powerful accountable?

>>17807464
Your assessments are mostly correct, but rural folks are know to be just as shitty to the environment as anyone else when it come to littering. I’ve seen more pick up truck drivers throw shit from their cab than any other kind of driver, whether it be piss or dip bottles, cigarettes, or a good ole texaco 44oz styrofoam cup, they don’t seem to give a shit to own the libs. A lot still burn trash and other shit or clear brush in a “control burn” that ends up spreading to the neighboring properties.

>>17812129
fuck it, I'm gonna start shoplifting too
any tips?

>>17805241
They still use plastic bags in my state.
What shithole do you live in?

>>17813947
Wow very freedom

>>17805241
>Be me
>Live in east coast state
>Bans plastic straws
>signs in the drive-up window say you must "request" plastic straws
>get given a plastic straw every time without asking

Impact: negligible

>>17812129
I stole some spices once and felt like a nigger, never again

oh hey i didnt know jersey is doing this. i'm in philly and we just banned bags like a month ago. it's pretty cool actually, i wish the entire state did so

>>17812396
Don't get caught.

>>17812129
I just fill up the trolley and walk out.
They're not allowed to stop you.
Don't dress like a nigger and they wont even try.

>>17805280
it's almost like millions of people live in NJ so the the odds of seeing a topical po00RRBst are high

I actually like these strong bags that cost 30 cents each. Aside from the ugly walmart logo, they're quality bags for the price.

what gets my goat is they always use the term "single-use plastic bag" as if we don't all hoard dozens of the bastards to use for everything from dog shit collection to improvised rain boots.

just buy your own bag bro we all have to do our part so our corporate overlords have more leeway to comfortably spew their own emissions

>>17805241
Paper has always been the superior choice in size, strength and looks. Also recyclable of you care about that.

>>17805277
>BYO bag

Or don't be a faggot and steal them from the self checkout. Fuck the government, fuck the stores, fuck the environment, fuck jannies.

>>17814421
Let's see, according to self-published stats, Americans made up 47% of the userbase

9,288,994 NJers / 331,893,745 Americans total gives you 2.7% of the American population.

Thus .47 * .027 = 1.27% chance you are interacting with someone from New Jersey at given time. I suppose that isn't too low of odds, but the 3AM EST posting time definitely has to skew this rarer.

>>17805241
Oh no, a minor inconvenience! Only reason I miss plastic bags is not having a disposable bag for returning recyclable bottles. I use cloth bags for everything else.

>>17808051
>We're trying to get rid of one of the worlds largest pollution sources

You are a fucking retard. Kill the governor of NJ then kill yourself.

>>17807464
This. I wasn't bothered by the bag ban in my city when it happened a few years ago but since it happened there are no plastic bags in the street anymore so I'm in favor of it. Also, demanding shitty plastic bags that you have to double bag so they don't rip is a dumb hill to die on anyway.

>>17815716
>lives in a city
Kill yourself.

>>17815718
Nah.

>>17815723
Give me your address so I can kill you then. God I can't wait for Russia to start dropping nukes.

>>17815705
It's actually 50% chance, either you're interacting with someone from New Jersey, or you're not

>>17815729
1600 Pennsylvania Ave. SE, Washington, DC 20003

>>17815705
Got any source on those stats? Last time I heard any mention of stats, burgers was ~40% but that was when mootles was still around.

>>17815742
Hello neighbor! You could at least have told him to ask for Joe.

>>17815744
https://www.4channel.org/advertise

No idea when this was last updated, but here

>>17815753
I doubt those numbers have been updated since selfserve was implemented. 4chan was listing 22 mil. hits/month elsewhere before phonefaggotry was even a thing. I sincerely doubt it's gone down since then. And how the fuck would the staff even know the demographic age/education.

No idea if the tumblr blog still exists, but that's probably still the closest we have to official stats. I think it was chrishateswriting

>>17805562
I'd like it filtered into mine, thanks

>>17805241
In my country, it started as 5p per bag, then got more and more expensive until now ALL bags under £5 is now charged an extra 25p, including the re-useable bags. It's bullshit, they don't give a shit about the environment, it's just another thing they can tax to grab as much money as possible.

>>17805241
Even after my city dropped its plastic bag ban I've seen waaaaaay fewer plastic bags uglying up the trees so you can go fuck yourself.

>>17805241
This happened in my town and got unbanned a week after. People didn't realize how retarded it was until they experienced it then suddenly it was the devil.

>>17807519
That's retarded.
I'm fine with banning plastic bags or at least charging extra for them, I'm tired of seeing them in rivers and the stores always over-use them, they're so fucking weak and shitty you need two of them to hold something moderately heavy, and if that thing has an edge or corner sharper than a spoon it just tears anyway. I've been using the same reusable bags for 5 years without issue and I think it cost me less than $3.

That said, paper bags are fine. The environmental message behind banning paper bags is complete bullshit. Brown paper bags are made from the lowest quality wood pulp, meaning recycled paper/cardboard and the dirty chips from lumber mills which is stuff that has bark or is from burned timber - chips that can't go into white paper. Chipped material is all the stuff left over from lumber milling that otherwise would go to waste. The paper industry stops the waste of timber, it's a good thing.
t. timber worker

>>17805241
We had a bag ban going until covid brought them back