/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>he doesn't buy $45 bottle of artisan olive oil produced in small batches from the heart of Italy or Greece
Sad!

>he doesn't live in a country where olive oil is produced and is extremely cheap, or have friends that make high quality olive oil at home using a 3000 year old roman stone

Seethe

cant hear you gweilo im a chinkchad and i use based gutter oil

I only cook with lard, tallow, schmaltz, butter, and ghee

I want to see what the numbers look like if you exclude all the suspiciously cheap olive oils. e.g. what % of $15 bottles are fake? $20? $25+?

people who dislike olives are probably goyslop enjoyers

>>17864019
>goyslop

>>17864019
People who force memes are buttfucking faggots.

Just use coconut oil instead. They can't really fake it and it's healthy

>>17863901
Ok this is what I do. Look for harvest date, third party seals, do some test, research on the brand you are buying. Good olive oils should have the harvest date and bottling date printed somewhere, the closer to today's date the better obviously. Third party verification such as the Olive Oil Commission of California helps make sure the oil is actually evoo and not rancid or fake. I personally do some taste test as well, good evoo should have a distinct taste to it. I compare it to known good evoos to see if it's any good. Finally a bit of research into the brand you are buying. Did they ever let people look at their harvesting process? Do they have an active website you can browse through? How transparent and well known they are? Have they been known to produce fake evoo before?

Also for anybody in the US consider sticking with evoo made domestically since to my knowledge the US is a dumping ground for fake evoo. If you are in a country like Spain or Italy you probably (hopefully) are getting evoo, but I would still be a tiny bit paranoid.

>>17863901
Butter or animal lard are the only fats I cook with.
I am based. You love jews.

I hate supporting california in anyway but they do have some of the most consistent quality olive oil in the form of pic related.

>>17864236
>argentina - portugal - chile 10% california
you got scammed

>>17864246
>a blend of olives from the beat olive producing areas in the world
>lol you got scammed
What did he mean by this?

>>17864236
Only get their 100% californian one preferably the 2L version

>>17863901
There's a small business near me called Olive The Best that produces fresh-pressed olive oil with infusions. As in, importing fresh olives and not using frozen or rotted ones. They have a big workshop that can be seen from the storefront. They ship nationwide and charge a very fair price of $19/bottle. Personally I'm never buying oil from anywhere else again

>>17863997
>3000 year old roman stone
Retard

>>17863901
We have our equivalent of the FDA that monitors/analyzes food products, not saying it is foolproof, but they keep an extra eye on products that are fraud sensitive.

>>17863901
Sorry anon, I'm still going to drizzle oil on my salads and fry in butter instead of any oil

My bottle was €6 per liter.
So likely 99% soybean oil

>>17864269
I went to look at their website and lol at that family pic.

>>17864452
You weren't kidding about the pic.

>>17863901
>mfw artisanal italian olive oil
Get dabbed on

If it's a blended olive oil it has to say it on the bottle. Don't buy olive oil blends

>Be oil schizo
>Read a million infographics made by other oil schizos
>Make a million threads about oil
>My MFW when I just read the ingredients list on the bottle at the store
Seriously, what's with you people?

>>17864639
I like being informed and making sure that extra virgin olive oil is really extra virgin olive oil. Simple as.

>>17864639
You obliviously are a normie npc who never question the world and have complete naive obedient trust into this corrupt greed driven world. Most of npc normies like you also always have this smug attitude like you just showed every time they encounter someone that challenge their very narrow, naive and gullible mind.

>>17864037
>>17864034
goyslop is funny

>>17864686
Alternatively, I find solutions to my problems. You get angry on 4chan and will never change anything.

>>17864603
Only in the EU. Outside of the EU any oil can be sold as olive oil as long as it contains "a certain percentage of olive oil", depending on which country you're looking at.

>>17864034
I understand your frustration but still think you're a faggot for coming onto the one "right wing" website on the internet and bitching about it as if every single other form of media isn't an even more retarded left wing echochamber. If "antisemitic" memes bother you so much you can navigate literally anywhere else. If you find r*ddit better you can make an account and stay there, or you can come back here and "chud culture" will be a relative breath of fresh air.

>>17863930
>He trusts meds
Kek

>>17864639
How do you know it's real olive oil? How do you know they didn't switch out the olive oil for something else that they're legally calling "olive oil?" How do you know nobody switched the bottle with an identical copy filled with flavored industrial waste while you weren't looking? If you look closely is there very fine print after the word "olive?" I bet there is, did you look at the seal under the cap? Were there tiny imprints from someone popping the cap off and resealing it after replacing the contents? Have you ever even had real olive oil before? Would you know what it tasted like if you tried it? What if nobody has ever had real olive oil? What if it's all been switched out without anyone's knowledge, what then, are you going to pretend like you can trust any old bottle with the words "olive oil" listed as the sole ingredient? The legal entity known as "olive oil" has nothing to do with the oil produced using olives, why would you think the words produced by a corporation have anything to do with reality? Or do you trust them because you, too, are part of it? Are you one of the people who go to my local supermarket and fiddle with the olive oil bottles when nobody's looking? You really thought nobody would catch you? I've started opening all the bottles just before the store closes and smelling them, you know. You think you're very clever with all your multiple agents and body doubles going in at random times to switch the olive oil for "olive oil" and disguising yourself with platform shoes and wigs and things but I can tell by the smell what you've done. I'm leaving hidden cameras and I'm going to catch you and your "friends" red-handed. I know you're not just switching out the oil, you're putting funny things in the bottles, too. I saw a bottle last week that smelled like vinegar and had crayon shavings at the bottom. Just yesterday I saw one with an RFID tag on the label.I know what you're all up to, and my olive oil will not be touched by yours

>>17864250
>beat olive producing areas
Sure José

>>17864051
coconut oil leaves a distinct taste though

>>17863901
I only use seed oils, and I sweeten all my foods unnecessarily with bottles of HFCS.

>>17864767
It's actually astonishing how much you chug dick. Go back to discord and report on this thread tranny

>>17864851
I'm on your side you illiterate moron

>>17864855
>I'm on your side you illiterate moron
discord. now.

>>17864865

>>17864517
l m f a o.

>>17864802
>gets btfo
"S-s-sure j-j-jose"

Kek

>>17863997
>3000 year old
>roman.
You are not from Eurooa are you? And you don't have this kind of friends, because the Romans didn't exist 1000 BC.

>>17865490
>he doesnt know about the lost centuries
heh

I don't use that garbage for anything when I can use mayonnaise instead

>>17863901
I use this one

>>17865507
it sounds weird but it's surprisingly good

>>17864791
Is this pasta?

The humble peanut.

It's fine, I only use olive oil to jerk off with

>>17864802
>beat olive producing areas in the world
>from the americas

I don't like skanky olives either OP

>>17864034
t. goyslop eater

>ctrl+f
>No mention of sesame yet
What the fuck you peasants?

>>17863901
>This is well documented through many articles and studies online but not public knowledge.
post some

>>17867803
I don't eat gutter oil.

>>17863901
>As some of you might know
As in let me tell you a whole lot of internet myths and meme bullshit..

Questions:
>Is this an American problem or am I getting cartel olive oil in the UK?
>Is it worth it to make my own olive oil from olives? How many olives would I need to get 100 ml?

>>17864791
based olive oil schizo gang stalking victim

>>17867935
Mostly America, but anywhere can have fake olive oil sold. Unless you are willing to make an investment in a press and grinder and everything else need to make olive oil, I don't think it's worth it. That's assuming you have a grown olive tree already. Maybe you can get them for cheap, but making olive oil can be pretty labour intensive.

>>17864517
The composition is all weird. It looks like they combined two family photos onto the same background.

I just buy this brand. It tastes good and I use it in all my sauces and even pasta water. Am I fucked?

>>17867935
What you think the Daily Fail would pay for a report including actual test results from a trustworthy lab telling that 80% of olive oil in UK is fake?

>>17868354
>buying 3/5 "smooth taste" instead of 5/5 taste

>>17868354
Bertolli doesn't have a good rep from what I remember, although I heard the organic version is ok.

>>17863901
i have good luck with north african and chilean oils. basically places too low status to bother faking

>>17863930
>italy
you're joking, I hope

>>17864517
Uhhh... That dude not realizizing he's getting cucked..? If he can't figure that out, not sure I'd trust him to produce quality oil.

>>17868354
He puts oil in his boiling water

>>17863901
I've just got Pompeian cause it was buy one get one free lol. Got the "robust" and the "bold" which is apparently 100% Spanish olives if it makes a difference. The 'robust' also uses South American olives.
At least such is what the bottle purports.

>>17867808
not that guy but this is pretty funny
>https://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-agromafia-food-fraud/

>>17865504
based and mystery pilled

>>17863901
butter

>>17868475
And this is going on in a decent country like Italy. If this is what goes on there then one can only imagine the kind of foul shit that goes on in a shithole country like America

just go to a place with a lot of olive trees and buy directly from them, you can even see the operation yourself

>>17868354
That stuff is rancid

>>17868348
I'm almost certain they photo shopped a family pic or two onto this background, just look at the white lines on the family to the right. The lighting is also weird, it's like they are in a brightly lit room.

>>17864128

you can buy Italian olive oil at aldi if you are stuck in a flyover

>>17864004
Good choice. Add some coconut oil for a big boost of saturated fats and taste variety

>>17863901
You can easily tell if the olive oil is real or fake by tasting a little bit of it. If it burns your throat you can tell right off the bat there's something wrong with it

Is this one a scam?

>>17870499
There's suppose to be a light burning sensation, in fact it's a sign it's fresh and an early harvest has an even more peppery sensation, what do you mean it's wrong?

>>17868336
>mostly america
In america you can at least find trustworthy brands. Southern European products are a roll of the dice

>>17870499
That's pretty much the opposite, fresh olive oil is supposed to have this slight burning feeling. Apparently, americans are so used to rancid oil they can't taste the difference anyway.

>>17870514
I like these, packaging looks nice and tastes good

master race

>>17872135
One race
the olive race

master race

>>17863901
Maybe in the shithole nation you live in.

>>17863901
>he thinks dietary cholesterol impacts biological cholesterol
Go and take a nap, Grandpa.

>>17863901
>inflammation of the gut
Fake
>IBS
100% psychosomatic, this disease does not exist
>various digestion problems
Such as?
>cancer
Absolutely wrong
>bad cholesterol
Scam invented by big pharma to sell you statins. "There's nothing wrong with you but you need to take drugs anyway" yeah sure. Read the Eskimo studies.
>stubborn fat
Eating vegetable oil causes your body to defy the laws of physics?
>gyno
This is caused by estrogen, which is in soy but nothing else you mentioned. Also, LDL cholesterol is increased by testosterone and decreased by estrogen so your claims aren't even consistent with each other.

>>17872135
>Plastic
Literally undrinkable

>>17863901
All my shit comes from Italy, top quality, top class.
Seethe faggit

I just mix my olive oil with hydrogenated oil so it lasts longer.

this seed oil craze is making yall insane

>>17863901
Feels so fucking good havig access to that 20%

I buy this semi-expensive Spanish olive oil blend and it's the best tasting shit I've ever had but is this counterfeit too? Am I making a huge mistake?

>He doesn't have his own olive trees
>He doesn't make 150+ liters of oil on good years

>>17872864
anon olive trees take like 10+ years before they start to yield fruit and it's low quality shit for at least a generation

https://youtu.be/ZEf5VFKplzw

>>17863901
>he doesn't have a greek gf who buys from a family friend olive farmer
sad!

>>17872491
>psychosomatic = doesn't exist

>>17872895
There is no physical disease that causes IBS. it happens when you think a food is going to give you gastrointestinal discomfort so it does. The brain and gut are connected with a lot of neurons and your digestion is influenced by your expectations about what you've eaten. I suspect for many people it originates when they eat a certain food at the same time they happen to be sick, constipated, or anxious for another reason, and then the brain permanently associates that food with gastrointestinal discomfort. It can be cured with hypnosis or meditation combined with exposure therapy.

For some proof of this you can check out the studies on coffee: as you know, caffeine makes you have to shit, and makes the shit more watery, whereas decaf has no such effect. If you put test subjects in a room with a bathroom and give them decaf but tell them it's regular coffee, they'll take more shits and more watery shits compared to a control group that knows they're drinking decaf. When the brain expects to have a watery shit it can literally just do it on command. And same for constipation, cramps, or whatever. This is essentially the mystery disease IBS.

>>17863901
>he doesn't harvest his own olives and take them to the local olive mill to be pressed into oil
ngmi

>>17863901
I mostly cook with organic grass-fed tallow that I render myself. I get the suet from a local farm run by a friendly old couple who I know I can trust. It's the healthiest thing you can cook with and it's super cheap since most people are dumb and think beef fat is bad for you. I also use local grass fed butter sometimes, especially for sauteing.

I used to cook with olive oil (and still do occasionally, especially when I do fish, since tallow mixed with fish is disgusting). However I came to the same conclusion you did, which is that unless you know exactly where and how your olive oil is produced you're taking a big gamble and it's just not worth it.

>>17872684
yeah i dont like those oils because they taste like shit but the faggoty bro science is so annoying, probably because its a meme forced by social media "influencers" instead of board culture

>>17864128
>>17863901
>>17863930
>>17863997
IF IT IS NOT PRESSED IN YOUR PRESENCE, THEN IT DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE IN YOUR PRESENCE

i buy some greek 0,3% oil, seems legit
usually use domestic cold pressed canola oil for cooking doe

>>17867271
I will never eat your overpriced sloppa shit burgers and oily fries ever again. The fries are absolutely covered in your oh-so beloved oil and it makes the bags disgusting.

my parents have an olive tree, do you just grind and squeeze them?

>>17868354
>plastic bottle
>puts oil in pasta water
You were fucked before you even started cooking

>>17870514
This is the real deal

>Control+F Andalucía
>0 results
You people are fucking plebs

>>17876067
no, you just squeeze them

>>17863901
My family has hectars of olive trees
>t. Iberian

>>17877762
*hectares
Retard.

>>17877767
lol hahaha you really got him good brother!

>>17877767
No i mean we have hectors working on our olive trees

>>17864767
We don't object to (You)r attempt to force (You)r meme because it's anti-semitic, we object to it because (You) shit up every thread (You) enter with it, it isn't clever, and it isn't funny.

>>17863901
>>he doesn't buy $45 bottle of artisan olive oil produced in small batches from the heart of Italy or Greece
>Sad!
i buy from local farms when i go on holiday to the south of italy in the summer. usually lasts me the whole year then i buy more.

>>17877777
checked

>>17863901
>tfw I'm from Romania and not a shithole like the US

>>17874900
>bro science
I don't think you understand what that term means. There is tons of legitimate science telling us that seed oils are poison. It's also just common sense if you really think about it. Also what the fuck do you mean they taste like trash? Chefs use them specifically because they have a neutral taste.

soybean oil stinks more then grapeseed and sunflower oil when heated to extremes imo
blegh

>>17863901
Ok then what are some reputable brands of olive oil?

>>17880996
Seconding
I like Napoleon because it tends to be the cheapest

>An Olive Oil thread
Might as well ask here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_aFHrzSBrM
Is Adam Ragu-bolognese-prego right that smoke point doesn't matter and it's fine to saute or deep fry with extra virgin olive oil health-wise? I actually read the study and it said that EVOO and VOO are actually less likely to oxidize when heated than refined OO is.

I live in south of france and I buy the oil from the same place I used to work for when I was 15

>>17881410
E Leclerc?

>>17868440
One of the kids looks like man tho...

>>17868437
North africans take their olive oil very serious same goes with spain. No vegetables oil watered down shit. The ppl there would instantly notice that shit

>>17879118
Too bad you're poor

>>17881431
Nah I used to pick up olive for some dude who sells half his production directly to some star restaurant in antibe

>>17867315
Anything good about the conditions of the mediterranean are better in the American tropics

>>17881317
Who cares, who the fuck would use (and ruin) oil that costs $100 a gallon to fry versus oil that costs $7 a gallon?

>>17863901
I always buy Olive Oil in dark glass bottles. I look on the back to see where the Olives are sourced from. I try to avoid blends. In general I try to only buy Olive Oil made with olives from Greece. Greece has the best olive oil in the world, it is of the highest quality. Europeans who know their shit buy Greek Olive Oil.

>>17881880
This anon knows what's up

>>17864791
This reads like a sam hyde skit

Is it possible to do similar things with animal fats? Cutting them with low quality cheap fats that look and taste similar

>>17870514
If bought at a legitimate vendor this is quality. Tunisian olive oil is consistently great, also happens to be the only thing tunisia is somewhat known for so they make sure to protect that reputation.

>>17863901
>muh good cholesterol
>muh bad cholesterol
lmao

>>17863901
maybe for the american market lol, you faggots have no foodstandards are being fed worse than your cattle.

>>17882027
I remember that cows fed with grains have higher levels of pufa in their bodies so in a way yes. Make sure you get tallow from cows that are grass fed. As for pigs I believe it's similar, so look for ones that are pasture raised.

>>17863901
do americans really do this?

>>17872135
This is the good shit

>>17881818
not poorer than your average american. how many poor and homeless do you guys have? (it's a lot.)

>>17880202
but of course it's the fucking memebean, lmao

>>17870514
had that one, while better than other chain brands it still was way below some croatian and spanish oil i was gifted.

What are trusted /ck/ approved EVOO?

>>17876053
Five Guys burgers and FLIES lol

>>17863930
https://www.wboo.org/worlds-best-olive-oils.html
> Italy or greece
Buy spanish olive oil its cheap as fuck

>>17881857
Because a home cook might only want to keep one type of oil at hand to save space.

>>17883555
>has enough room to fry
>but not enough room for a second type of oil

pretty sure the ingredients list would have to mention it was cut with other oil types for legal purposes. I assume there are allergies related to different oils so if olive oil was being cut with vegetable oil and it wasn't listed someone could die or some shit if they were allergic.

>>17883661
I thought refining oils removed allergens