/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>18140709
Why would you willingly limit yourself from the worldly pleasures of meat and cheese?

>>18140736
Kill yourself Omni

>>18140736
because I'm free from the addiction that plagues your brain

>>18140709
I tried some TVP a while back. It was really cheap so I was hopeful it'd be good, but the smell and texture really turned me off.

I'm gonna make some mash this weekend, trying to figure what to pair it with. Maybe I'll make a lentils shepherds pie.

>>18140709
Roasted potatoes smothered in aioli

>>18140746
>>18140791
How's that lack of vitamin b12 and the anti-nutrients treating you?

>>18141093
I'm not that anon, but I think its pretty weird to pick on vegetarians for being malnourished when I'd say the average meat eater is probably malnutritioned as well. Its way more common to be constipated (lack of fibre from fruit and veg) and to suffer from high blood pressure, gout and fatty liver from overconsumption of fatty fried meat, lard and oil (which is probably what the majority of this board eats.) In comparison vegetarians and vegans, deficiency in is iron and vitamin B12 is relatively minor, easily detected and easily supplemented. The average vegetarian and vegan are also aware they may be deficient and take steps to ensure they eat a large variety of vegetables/legumes/tubers, which is a more nutrionally sound diet than eating chicken breast and potatoes every day.

>>18141708
>j-just supplement it bro
ah yes, the type of pill you piss 50% of it's nutrients out. You could just eat meat occasionally and not supplement shit like a regular human, ever thought of that?

>>18141049

Do it in chili or add to beans. That shit slaps if it's in a bunch of sauce. I'm omni and it's the best hot dog chilli I've made

If you are a vegan man, you are either a homosexual, or cucked by the girl you bow down to, no exceptions.
I have had sex with the wife of the three vegan men I've met. One wife I met by hanging out with him, the other two were work Halloween parties and they liked my "brain mass' Buffalo shrimp dip.
If you last name is Winters , Budst, Or Good, I've fucked your wife

>>18141715
if you can explain why specifically you piss out the nutrients in a vitamin taken along with a meal and not the nutrients in food, then I'll listen to you

>>18141715

>>18141727
???

I don't need to, it's factually proven that supplements mostly get excremented and pissed out and you barely get anything from them, unless you want me to type up a doctorate and study right now? shutup bitch
>>18141732
Elaborate

>>18141746
Anon, you piss out supplements if you exceed your nutritional needs for that vitamin. That's why people advise against taking too much because its pointless.

>>18141723
I think I bought a weird one but I'm kind of chickened out from trying again. I do like frozen mock meats though. I usually the Chinese seitan mock meat, not the impossible meats kind of fake meat.

>>18141747
Not only are you wrong, post wrist etc. but a vegan would still piss clear then, right? Don't forget the creatine supplementation from the lack of meat too. Vegans literally need and require an industry to facilitate their unnatural diets, meanwhile

My diet is full of veggies and meat.

>>18141732
>yeast
>vegan
The fucking mental gymnastics of you trend-following retards.

>>18141746
It's a yeast rich in b vitamins. It tastes like cheese. You'd learn this if you weren't being a preachy asshole to every vegan you see.

Go do Food Not Bombs and you'll learn more about vegan cooking then anywhere. Just shut the fuck up and listen or you'll deal with confused punks and old vegans

>>18141781
Yeast are living, not vegan.

>>18141752
It's tasteless, tvp. That's good for like, meat sauce or curry but not for a burger.

>>18141821
Google the Vegan Society definition.

What's an animal? I'm willing to bet if you put any time into thinking about it.

>>18141708
>the average meat eater is probably malnutritioned as well
This knee jerk response from febrile, sunken-eyed, limp-haired vegans losing their teeth in their 30's always cracks me up

>>18141817
Ah yes, just surround yourself with commie faggots and crusties and let them teach you how to make food that even the homeless can barely keep down

hehe time to make another stir fry

>>18141708
>meat eaters are unhealthy because they eat nothing else
Every time.
Non-vegans who don’t eat in a balanced manner are equally as dumb as vegans.
It’s almost as if functioning above the level of retard makes one healthier.

>>18141767
>gotta get a vegetarian water filter, bro!
>no, seriously bro. You’re totally drinking a few dead protozoa in your tap water! Literally drinking meat!

>>18140709
Firm tofu (real firm), marinaded in 'steak marinade' for couple of hours, bbq on hardwood fire.

>>18141725
LARP

>>18141708
normal people have a variable diet with 25% meat, 45% vegetables and 30% carbs.

>>18141746
you stop to assimilate stuff if you eat it all in one meal, that's why bodybuilders eat many small meals instead normal ones. The same is for Supplements, they come loaded of may things you don't really need every time you gulp down some of those.

>>18142363
i wonder where those "animals" going after you filter it

>>18141725
People post as they didn't aware of rules on blue boards

>>18141727
NTA but as I understand it, two main things: B12 has to bind with haptocorrin produced in your salivary glands to survive the stomach, so pills lose a lot compared to chewed food (though obviously you can compensate for this). Secondly, we've recently developed techniques to better distinguish the forms of B12 that you actually absorb, and certain supplements, particularly spirulina based ones, are largely useless.
>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0889157522000825

>>18142506
same is for iron intake, meat and vegetables are a different kind of that

>thought this thread would be about vegan cooking and recipes
>instead it's a bunch of seething meatcucks whining like trannies about muh dead slaughtered flesh
fuck off carcass lickers

anyways, my go to vegan dish for nutritious summer kino is as follows:
>cold pasta salad
>thinly sliced heirloom cherry tomatoes from the garden
>pesto made of crushed pine nuts, arugala, watercress, basil (any green really), good olive oil and garlic
>top with sauteed oyster mushroom "bacon" and a sprinkle of nutritional yeast "parm"
>last of all is a squeeze of lemon (meyer lemon is amazing if you can find them locally)
it's fucking amazing, try it sometime.

>>18142521
>thought this thread would be about vegan cooking and recipes
just report and discuss without worries

A lot of vegetable is good for vegan recipes, i make pepper bell strips sauteed with tomato cherries and some tacos spice mix

I love also lentils, done with diced celery, carrots and onions with a splash of red wine when broil. Good as a first first course with pasta, spelt or oat or just a good side\second course

>moderation

I'm extremely lazy and this isn't anything original, but man i do love me some soft tofu chunks covered by a quick sauce with soy, scallion, garlic and siracha over some steaming basmati rice.

Do vegans have any good recipes that are >50% protein by calories?

>>18142399
>bbq on hardwood fire.
You harvest trees to cook food? Trees that provide shelter, food, and breeding environments for bugs, birds, small mammals, reptiles etc?
You fucking monster.

>>18140709

>>18142651

>>18142659
Literally Spielberg's master opus.

>>18142659
>>18142695
people post as they are not aware of blueboard rules

>>18142680
Extra firm tofu is 47% protein and the satay sauce and frying oil is going to drop the dish's total way below that. Not even close.

200g red lentils, a tin of coconut milk, minced shallot and garlic, curry leaves and a stick of cinnamon, salt. Cook that for a couple hours topping up the water as necessary.
Meanwhile, gently fry thinly sliced shallot until crisp.
To serve, in a couple tablespoons of oil fry cumin and black mustard seeds, garam masala and dried chilli until the mustard seeds are popping. Stir most of the oil through and pour the rest on top as garnish.

>>18142633
>I like eating sugar and carbs
Sounds like a fan-fucking-tastic diet plan!

S

>>18140709
I went 'vegetarian' for couple of weeks because didn't have too much money and thought might as well try. I don't feel so damn heavy all the time and generally have more energy too.
However now that I got my balance sorted out I started to eat like previously again. Sad... Need to try harder I guess.

/veg/ I need some recs for fake/veggie sandwich meat. Currently I get Tofurky soy based deli meat things but honestly these aren't that great and they are sort of pricey for what they are. The thing is I can imagine there are probably way better substitutes that don't emulate meat but can still fill up a sandwich without me having to slice and dice a bunch of veggies up every time I want a 'wich

Like you know how you can get burgers with mushroom cap patties? Is there some kind of alternative for simple thinly sliced sandwich meat?

>>18143014
Those Italian jarred grilled vegetables maybe, like aubergine and courgette slices.

>>18142407
>normal people have a variable diet with 25% meat, 45% vegetables and 30% carbs.
No, the fuck they don't, that's what they *should* have but in actuality it's 30% meat, 60% carbs, and 10% vegetables IF they go out of their way to get some

I figure you hippies may be into this sort of thing, so do any of you have experience with sprouting store-bought lentils or quinoa? I want to because it's easy and seems fun but I also don't want to buy seeds specifically for the purpose when I have a bunch already.
However, a lot of sites tell me I'm going to get e. coli or something if I do this. What are my odds of dying from trying to eat the bean tadpoles?

>>18140709
I could got vegan if it were not for eggs. I can quit meat but not eggs...

>>18145650
so go vegan except for eggs. it's still helpful

>>18140709
I often make what I call lazy fajitas. Throw canned refried beans in the microwave. Onions, mushrooms, and peppers on the skillet. When those are done sear the tortillas I'm going to use for 30 seconds on one side. Then add some salsa to each fajita. It takes like 10 minutes to finish the whole thing, costs next to nothing, and is really tasty.

If I'm cooking for other people I'll also make guac, Pico de Gallo, rice, and some black beans.

Classic hummus recipe

throw a cup of chic peas on the stove top in water and turn on high heat. when it boils turn it off
while you're waiting for it to boil, put between 1/3 and 1/2 cup of tahini in the blender
add 1 large clove of garlic, half lemon, table spoon of cumin, and salt to taste in the blender
Add the chic peas and a little bit of water. try to blend adding water until the consistency is right. taste and add more salt or lemon if needed

Put in a bowl and use a spoon to carve out an area for the olive oil. add cut some parley and add with paprika

eat with warm or toasted pita bread

>>18142521
funny you bring up trannies, anon

>>18142633

I like my tofu with

>Sauce
(Sugar)
>Soy sauce
(Salt and more soy beans)
>Siracha
(More sugar and salt)

Do you have high blood pressure?

>Nooo! The existence of vegan food is literally white genocide!
>*shoots up a walmart full of white people*

>>18142399
I burn shit tons of wood. Invasive species tree here in South Africa that uses up a crap ton of water. Sourh Africans BBQ a lot.

>>18142877
>>18146084
>only thing containing sugar in this dish being a tbsp of hot sauce
>bean protein coupled with rice bad, cause carbs bad
>soy bad bro trust me
The level of cope is unreal

does rice and beans really give you complete proteins like meat does?

>>18142407
>>18144181
>just stuff yourself with useless shit goy
The most healthy diet would be in majority: offal, meat, eggs and dairy. With a small addition of fruit, SOME vegetables and little to no carbs.
>>18146103
That's unironically how majority of vegans look like. Scrawny, underdeveloped twinks.

>>18147672
No. Counting protein from vegetable products, grains and seeds is fucking pointless, since it's low quality protein anyway.

Not exactly vegan, but can be made vegan pretty easily. I'm not a vegan or vegetarian, but I do enjoy eating tofu and some vegan food.
>Melt butter in pan (or use seed or vegetable oil if you're a vegan)
>Finally chop up firm tofu, I used teriyaki marinated tofu but any is fine
>season with onion powder, garlic powder, cumin, salt, chili powder, turmeric to taste (basically your average taco seasonings)
>Toss tofu in pan, let it crisp up
>I used a nacho cheese flavored taco shell but you can use tortillas or plain taco shells
>cut up some lettuce and tomatoes
>Optionally, sprinkle with cheese or vegan shreds. I didn't do this because my shell was nacho flavor
Honestly, one of my favorite recipes, especially with the shell. I also tried doing this but with homemade flat breads and seasoned it with the same spices + dill.

>>18141049
>lentils shepherd pie
then it's not a shepherd's pie, m8.
you DO know what a shepherd's pie is, right?

>>18145897
Do the chickpeas need to be fresh

>>18149922
I use canned. also that recipe should have said a can (15 oz). not a cup
woops

>>18149689
>he doesn't know about hotdogs

>>18141781
>It's a yeast rich in b vitamins. It tastes like cheese.
i bet its dried dick cheese

>>18141708
This is absolute retarded vegan cope. You can eat nothing but meat and organs and be completely healthy.
"Average meat eater" doesn't eat just meat.

>>18140746
>>18140791
>>18141049
>>18141078
>>18141817
>>18142399
>>18142521
Vegans are subhuman worms.

>>18141093
>>18141715
You derps are in dire need of education.
B12 is grown by bacteria in the soil.
Cattle nowadays is fed a diet of washed corn and other grains.
They are no longer getting their B12's from grazing grass directly from the ground.
To make up, cattle are heavily supplemented with artificial B12.
All the B12 you are ingesting from meat originates from the exact same supplements you're mocking.
You could just supplement B12 directly like a rational being and not rely on the convoluted supplemented meatsteps inbetween you know.

>>18140736
Lent

>>18150401
Cows don't get B12 by eating soil, that's ridiculous. The bacteria that produces it lives in their foregut and ferments whatever they've eaten. They only need supplementation when they're not getting enough cobalt.

>>18140736
Rent free. This is a thread about cooking, not your retard rants

>>18149089
"low quality protein" doesn't mean much because you dont only eat 1 ingredient. This was resolved in the 70s, you dinosaur.
>>18147672
If you eat rice + chickpeas you get 100% complete proteins. It was already proven in the 70s that you dont even have to count proteins. Just eat normally and you get complete proteins. All food scientists agree on this.

>>18150812
It is in the soil. When they eat grass they eat a bit of dirt. Washed grains do not have b12 for this reason. Also cobalt is getting worse every year. Almost all cattle are fed supplements for this reason. There simply isn't enough cobalt and it's better to be safe than sorry.

>>18142353
This
Hardcore vegan Nikocado was as unealthy as ballooner Nikocado

>>18150928
>It is in the soil. When they eat grass they eat a bit of dirt. Washed grains do not have b12 for this reason.
This just isn't true. Think about it, what would be the point in feeding them cobalt supplements, which is needed by the bacteria that produces B12, if they get their B12 externally?

I like a lot of the vegetarian mains of southern Italian so-called poverty cuisine but a few are vegan. They're almost always pasta with x type dishes. Examples:
Pasta with pumpkin.
Pasta and beans.
Pasta and chickpeas.
Pasta with lentils.
Pasta alla salsa fresca (tomato sauce with garlic and parsley; there are many variations but none are ever served with cheese).

While there are a lot of vegetarian mains, vegan dishes that don't use imitation ingredients (cashew "cheese" or almond "milk" or seitan "chicken") tend to be more sides than anything.

vegan and carnivore are the two prime meme diets of our era, each with their own respective leftist and rightist tilt, mirroring the culture war itself.

Both completely unsustainable diets long-term.

Do keto. Unlock the benefits of ketones. Don't limit yourself of animal products or plant-based ones.

Step into the realm of the superior.

>>18151169
wrong thread dude

bump

why do the most retarded meat eaters shit up a random thread. what is wrong with them?
t. meat eater

>>18151169
Carnivore is sustainable in theory as there have been many carnivorous hunter gatherer tribes historically. Veganism is not. I don't advocate for a carnivore diet, I think it's pretty stupid to be honest. But it's not on the same level of stupidity as veganism.

>>18152748
You explained exactly why it isn't stupid you're just trying to sound like a cool and hip middle of the road loser lol peak hipster

>>18152783
No I didn't. The only reason those hunter gatherers subsided on a carnivore diet is because they had to. It isn't particularly healthy to completely boycott plant based foods.

>>18152801
hipster science, modern plants are trash as well

>>18152804
You should look into the hormetic effect. Plants have been part of the traditional human diet since before written history. You have the same braindead black and white mindset as a vegan.

>>18152844
You should improve yourself, modern vegetables are just shitty fibre, toxins and with garbage nutrients you can get from meat unironically, if anything you should replace them with a little bit of fruit

>>18141708
>iron isn't bad
Iron deficiency is one of the worsr

>>18149689
Here's my pie. We can call it a farmer's pie if you feel too offended calling it a shepherd's pie. Made some braised red cabbage to go with it.

>>18151060
Sucks for you but it is true and easily verifiable with some googling.
B12 is produced by bacteria in the soil.
It's also produced by bacteria in cow guts, but here's the kicker: they can´t absorb this self-produced B12.
The way it works is as follows: they shit out their B12-fortified dung over the soil, and this B12-fortified dung is eaten again to absorb the B12.
Both scenario's are non-existent in modern-day cattle-farming.
I.e. all the B12 you ingest from meat comes from artificially injected B12 supplements anyway.

>dirt-eating schizo is back

apparently this was invented in the middle ages by monks

>>18153611
I've eaten lots of mock meats (friend's family was traditional vegetarian Chinese). Doesn't taste like meat, but doesn't taste bad. Mostly just chewy, a bit sweet. Pretty good in vegetable stir fries.

In summer I only eat salads
Bulgur, couscous, quinoa, soba, chickpeas, beans, black lentils...
anything can be turned into a refreshing salad!

>>18153080
Yeah, it's easily verifiable that it's a weird ass vegan myth that keeps getting pushed.

Imagine spending time thinking about vitamins and nutrients or engaging in discussions about it lol
take your B12 and let your doctor do his work
who the fuck cares about vitamins and nutrition except for boring ass health freaks
we're all gonna die

>>18141725
>you're not manly because you don't go to the supermarket and buy pre-slaughtered meat

are you some gigachad for eating meat? it's not like you ran on all fours and mauled a cow with your bare teeth.

if anything im more of a man than you for having the self control to not buy something i find delicious on account of being morally opposed to it, and for standing by my values in the face of widespread criticism

>>18142921
that's ok. you tried. maybe in the future you can try again

the beauty of life is that we can do whatever we want pretty much

>>18151169
you mean that diet that's pseudoscience? just look on wikipedia dude

>>18151169
How are you going to talk about meme diets and unironically suggest keto.