/ck/ - Food & Cooking

/ctg/, shill me a good equivalent of the Rancilio Silvia V6 with a PID for a maximum of 750€.

Bonus question: is it worth getting a heat exchanger like a Quickmill machine over single boiler for a quicker usage?

>>18720828
I forgot to link my shop from which to choose from: https://www.coffeeitalia.it/prodotti/macchine-da-caffe/

Thanks

>>18720828
>>18720830
You've gotten more help than you deserve. Do your own homework.

>>18720828
Gaggia classic with PID

>hey anon, want an aeropresso? :)

>>18720846
I’m mad because despite these machine being made here there’s nothing to read in my language, not a fucking portal, a forum, nothing informative.
Just clickbait websites “the best coffee machines for 2022” and it’s all Amazon picks of 100-150€ machines. :(

>>18720851
I considered this machine, didn’t know it came with a PID. Thanks.

>>18720852
>Bitch stop pushing down on my aeropress with your full body weight

>>18720861
It doesn't come with a PID.

>>18720800
When are we going to wage a racial holy war on those degenerate tea fags and answer the tea question.

>>18720861
>Just clickbait websites “the best coffee machines for 2022” and it’s all Amazon picks of 100-150€ machines.
Yes. You've discovered referral kickback websites with heavy search engine optimization. Get to reading.
https://www.home-barista.com/espresso-machines/

>>18720879
Thanks for the link, I’ll read the forum then.

>>18720868
So it’s a problem because I’m not modding a new machine under warranty.

Is the PID really that necessary?

>>18720918
You could just buy the machine and use it for a bit and decide if you want a PID afterwards. It's not like you need to buy both at the same time.

Why do Italians love a coffee that’s means quick in their layed back society .

>>18720918
The PID is what keeps your from having to heat cycle the machine, which you were bitching about. Its an extra logic circuit that measures the temp and autoregulates to the temp you set. You set it at 95c, it kicks the heater off at 96 and on at 94.

>>18720852
I'll spresseo her if you know what I mean

Anyone have experience with 12 or 18 cup moka pots?
I'm thinking about getting one to make coffee for when I have family and friends over.

>>18720852
Oh fuck yeah...
AEROPRESS GANG

>already had my daily double-sized aeropress brew and switch 02 brew
>still want more coffee
fuuuuuuuuggg good decaf needs to exist right now

>>18720927
Ok thanks so it’s definitely a welcomed tool.
So far the only machine which is within the budget is pic related (LaPavoni casabar PID), but I can’t find info online.

I guess that I’ll decide between the Gaggia Classic, the Silvia V6 and this LaPavoni, but so far I’m leaning towards the Silvia because it’s well documented and known, therefore it should be easier for me to find info post buying.

>>18721228
Even this one has a 58mm portafilter

It seems a lot of people complain about cheap grinders being hard to grind with. I literally do not care about putting in more muscle work, only grind quality. So then can I get away with a cheaper grinder <$40?

>>18721255
$40 might be a little to low. At that price you'll have trouble finding anything that doesn't have some kind of weakness.
Either the burrs are okay-ish, but the rest of the construction is cheap plastic, or the body is okay-ish quality and the burrs are shit.

You can find decent options for $60 though if you're willing to spend a little more.

>>18721255
It won't affect how hard it is to grind much. The things that more expensive grinders have are better build quality and better burr designs, which (generally) increase the quality of the grind. An electric grinder would significantly effect how easy it is to grind, but that's a whole other topic.
Like the other anon said you can get some passable grinders for $60, but the cheapest I'd go if you want an actually good one is $100

>>18721255
Knock yourself out.
https://www.amazon.com/KINGrinder-Adjustable-Aeropress-Consistency-Stainless/dp/B098SLK9FG

>>18721310
Has anyone ever actually reviewed the bottom 3 kingrinders?

>>18721318
Yeah they're huge in the south east asia budget community. I'm sure theres threads of info on some chinese coffee forum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-EZUt_VDYM

>>18721228
Silvia and gaggia are both very standard builds with tons of community support. Thats why its so easy to bolt on an aftermarket pid or other mods and a huge used market for them. Look around.
https://www.shadesofcoffee.co.uk/post-2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpxB1Q6AFkY

i drank the goffee after 5pm

>>18721391
I am the sorry. You are die.

>>18721357
I don’t want to open and mod my machine, I want them to be 100% stock because I don’t trust myself working on complex machines. I’ll just buy something that comes with a PID.

I might aswell buy a Silvia Pro with PID and dual boiler if I can get some extra money, but for now I prefer to stick to my budget and the only native machine is the LaPavoni casabar.

>>18721464
https://www.roastycoffee.com/nespresso-reusable-pods/

>>18721464
>working on complex machine
Its a boiler, and a pump, and a couple switches to turn on said boiler and pump. Stick to instant please. I'm not going to diagnose your fuckups when you drop $1600 on a silvia x and don't understand whats happening.

>>18720828
You can buy chinkshit. $350

>>18720800
I got some coffee today from a local roaster and it was roasted on 11/23 am I boned

>>18721541
>In local news today, anon was found with a 4 inch hole in his head caused by a piece of shrapnel from the Xgionhi Coffee Deluxe Machine Espresso that exploded in his kitchen

>>18721557
>roasted less than a month ago
I think you're gonna live!

what's it mean if beans are harder to grind than others? good, bad, or insignificant?

>>18721579
The darker the roast is the more brittle the beans become. You bought light roast beans for the first time, intentionally or not. Congrats.

>>18721575
I don't have a grinder so I asked them to grind it for me gonna put it in my aeropress later on

>>18721601
It it was roasted a month ago and ground today then that's nowhere near as bad as already having been ground for a month.

Got a grocery store bag. It's average, roast is inconsistent and not as light nor the flavor as bright and floral as it would be from a specialty roaster. $7 bag though so not terrible.

>>18721601
As long as it doesn't start tasting like pencil shavings, you should be alright... and even then, that's just enzymatic action and oxidation, nothing harmful (Shit, Starbucks makes a killing off of "Aged Sumatran"). Depending on how quickly you quaff the coff, you might not even notice a difference between today's cup of fresh grind and the end of the bag.

>>18720924
Italians actually hate coffee. They invented a way to get it over with as quickly as possible.

>>18721912
Compare Italian coffee culture with cultures who actually love coffee like the Ethiopians and Eritreans. It's night and day.

>>18721610
>>18721679
Came out real good, I used the scoop inside the aero which is a little over 2 tbsp level

>>18721924

>>18721962
See what I mean? It's the exact opposite of getting it over with.

>>18721977
What I find truly amusing is that people from other cultures have chosen to ritualize not the eastern African coffee traditions, but the Italian one. I find this cultural stuff interesting. Important beverages like coffee, teas, chocolate, and alcohol have all of these fun and interesting cultures built around them.

>>18721926
Based Aero presser

>>18721962
from what ive seen the ceremony is essentially just let everyone thats gonna drink it to smell the smoke of the roasting coffee. im not sure it gets much more formal than that.
brazil seems to make a big social thing about drinking coffee together with people too.

>>18721995
>Important beverages like coffee, teas, chocolate, and alcohol have all of these fun and interesting cultures built around them.
Never really thought about it, but thats true and fascinating

>>18722015
Its just ethiopian cowboy coffee served with sugar and popcorn. Probably developed as a cheap way to "entertain" traders while they sampled fresh roasted crop. Eat some popcorn and shut the fuck up while Addisu gets this shit ready for you.
https://youtu.be/t4zgoR_8UJY

>>18720852
GANG GANG

Why is iced coffee so much more bubbly than hot? Both black no additives.

>>18721926
It's gonna degrade quick now that it's been opened. Enjoy as many cups as possible as fast as possible.

>>18722080
Colder liquids hold less dissolved gas

I'm pretty cheap so I plan to buy only a ziplock bag and reuse it for freezing. Will putting a coffee bag inside not crush the beans if I make it airtight?

>>18722212
It'll be fine.

>>18722212
Even under vacuum, it shouldn't harm the beans... but that said, freezing might.

>>18722226
>>18722252
cool heh
shipping fees are always bothering me so I'll just buy a kilo of beans and be done with it

>>18722258
damn spoiler tags don't work here?

what a noob

>>18722252
Freezing is absolutely fine as long as you don't put a wet paper towel in with it.
>>18722258
Look into a cheap vac sealer. I got mine off craigslist for $20. Italian made Kenmore the guy said he bought for his mom in 05 and she never used it. Buy whatever quantity you want and freeze into smaller portions. I do 150-200g.

>>18721167
Bumping for more info on this.

>>18722281
I just use mason jars whenever I need to freeze beans. Not that I get them airtight and sealed like proper canning but they do the trick to keep enough air and moisture out for the relatively short time that they're frozen

If my espresso extractiong is splattery, what does that indicate?

>>18722086
nuh uh

>>18722518
you need more fiber

Anyone ever use an Ember mug? I won one from a work contest. It seems cool but also it doesn't even really seem to work? It keeps the drink warm but not like... hot. Which is how I like my coffee, hot, not just warm. It's nice that it keeps my drink warm and doesn't get cold but even at max temp setting it doesn't really stay "hot".

>>18722874
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pPCMjqI_uw
Also it it kept your coffee hot it would probably burn it, like how heating plates on cheap coffee machines do. And coffee tastes better warm than hot. Like literally, the taste is different as it gets closer to body temperature.

>>18722888
I'm not saying it should be hot enough to burn it, but think how when you make a coffee those first few sips are nice and hot. Freshly made hot, probably around that 160-180F range, more or less. That's the kind of hot I'm talking about 150-160s; the mug only goes to 145 at best and most of the time it's lower. Again, nice that it's kept warm, but not enough for my personal taste.

>>18722900
you're not supposed to drink coffee that hot
your taste is wrong

>>18722906
You make your coffee and just sit starring at it until you nebulously think it's cooled down enough? That is deranged. Hot coffee is the shit. When you make a v60 and use boiling water and pour it over the grounds and all that the cup is already perfectly drinkable by the time the process is done. Which is to say the temp is probably around 180 or less; and cooled down even further by you sipping/slurping it and holding it in your mouth/etc. You crazy for this one dog.

Look at him schiz

i fucking hate the moka pot it always ends up sour
yes i'm cleaning it and i'm following the hoffian guidelines but the only way i can produce something not sour is by using a very dark roast

>>18723005
I like a moka every once in a while. how are you making it? I make it by: boiling water, pour it into the bottom, pour in the coffee, assemble the parts twist tight but not too tight, put on the burner for medium or medium-low-ish heat. Wait for the water to steam through and pour out the top. It should be a slow pour from the spout and not a violent bubbling. Some sputtering will occur, I've never gotten it not to occur (and if it doesn't it probably wasn't hot enough heat to produce a good taste coffee). Once its done pouring out, take off the heat and use hot hands to disassemble it and keep the top part on a small plate. Pour and enjoy.

I wouldn't say my coffee ever comes out "sour". It comes out as they espresso-like brew that mokas produce. Usually stronger in profile/flavor/etc than something like a V60 or drip machine. Sometimes it's even a little sweet tasting, in a way. Does that sound anything like how you make it? I think most people 1. don't boil their water before hand in a kettle and 2. use too high heat when it's on the burner

>>18723030
yep, that's exactly how i'm making it

>>18723032
Well I'm out of options then. You're fucked. You should smash the moka pot with a hammer

>>18722922
>hot coffee is shit
ftfy

>>18723048
will do thanks

>>18720800
I want to make some really good coffee for the first time ever so I'm guessing pour over is a good way to start. I have a nice grinder for espresso and ordered some coffee beans.

do I just go for the plastic V60? glass will have temperature issues, right? copper looks interesting but the handle is extremely tacky. is it worth it?
I'm asking because this guy did it without pre-heating so I'm not sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjnm8ggXh3g

I like my coffee as hot as possible so I don't taste a thing.

>>18722922
nope, your whole post is incorrect. sorry.

>>18721620
the lesson I learned when trying tons of supermarket coffee is if it doesn't have an exact roast date it's always terrible. if it does it's at least fresh so you have to find a flavor you like among the fresh ones but generally speaking it's a waste of time because there's a 1% chance that a good coffee roaster will supply a grocery store with top tier coffee. they always do their own thing, usually online or in a small specialized shop

Ok, after a night of research I finally decided to ditch the Silvia V6 and other PID machines and settle for a Gaggia Classic Pro because at least it’s way cheaper than the others (399€ vs 575€ of the Silvia and 750€ for other PID machines) and I’m more inclined to learn how to temperature surf without a PID for this amount of money, also it’s way faster than the Silvia to warm up and should last at least 10 years minimum as well.

>>18723125
my biggest problem with machines like this is how cheap they look. not trying to be a dick but I'd honestly rather save up and drop a grand than look at something like that for 10 years every day

V60 sucks. I can't believe I got memed into this shit.
I'm going back to immersion brewing.

I bought the shittiest cheapest soluble coffee and it actually tastes pretty ok. Am I retarded ?
There is a strong bitter digusting caffeine finish but apart from that its pretty decent

>>18723134
I want to buy a red or blue one, not the satin one.

Vid related: https://youtu.be/ki2Tzjh8dV0

>>18723135
your technique sucks, only a poor craftsman blames his tools

>>18723139
The V60 makes bland, boring, muted coffee.

>>18723135
just get a switch

>>18723137
this is just as bad if not worse. these colors age really badly anon. I was close to buying a MaraX but even that thing looks pretty bad. not sure what an equally good alternative would be. a classy looking one

>>18723005
I find that my moka pot makes sour coffee when I overfill the grounds basket.

About a month back I was here asking for advice on picking a manual coffee grinder so I can grind beans for my moka pot. People here helped me pick the 1zpresso q2 as a starter grinder and I've been using it for the past couple of weeks. I'd like to say thanks. Someone even linked me the instructions on how to adjust it for a moka pot which I knew had to be a bit coarser than espresso. It did make a difference, I was able to fit a couple of grams of grounds less in the basket (when compared to to the espresso grounds I'd been using before).

And it might be my imagination but the flavor does seem to be better now. At the very least it's more consistent. Before, sometimes I'd get a cup that was too bitter or acidic, but now it's perfect every time. And using the grinder is next level satisfying, thanks for the help lads.

coffee!

>>18723192
>dirty water

Fixed

How would you rate this cappuccino?

It’s made by using a milk frother, I wonder how the texture would change using steam.

>>18723091
Plastic is easier to heat up yes, but ceramic and glass aren't that hard either. If you go for one of those, go for ceramic since it's one single piece, whereas glass has plastic bits.
Copper is just for style points.

Is the answer for the best espresso machine under $1500 still Breville Barista Pro?

>>18723238
You're probably right about the ceramic, but it's kind of funny that you're dismissing copper as being for "Style points" when it's more thermally conductive than just about anything else (unless your cone's made from silver or diamond) - it would heat the most evenly, but it would also cool the most rapidly, where porcelain would be a happy medium between needing forever to get up to temp and holding that temp.

went down to visit my local roaster to buy some coffee. they don't have a store front so i popped in the warehouse and got to see a bit of the process. the smell was incredible, very caramel and chocolatey just permeating everything. they filled the bag right there and gave it to me, didn't even charge me! make friends with your local roasters, buds
>>18721464
you should have more confidence anon. just by asking these questions you put yourself above 99% of people in terms of curiosity. Watch a few videos, read some forums on the PID modding process and see if it looks doable
>>18722888
you're right about burning it but remember different people have different preferences
>>18722906
based
>>18723183
great job, lad

What'll it be /ck/? I got a Winter blues and a hard boiled on an onion bagel today

>>18723235
That honestly looks 10/10 anon, well done.

This will be my endgame machine.
Currently rocking a flair 58, which I will be keeping as my second machine when I want to be autistic and do espresso profiling or just want machine to warm up quickly.

been tempted getting a gaggia classic and seeing if the automatic machine life is for me first

>>18723368
Is smoked salmon an option? The rock star sounds like it would be tits with some smoked salmon.

I've got the coof. Any chance I could get a quad espresso with a shot of orange delivered? I'll figure out if I want to steam some milk for it, or just suck it back and twitch for a bit when it gets here.

>>18723235
If you absolutely nail it with a steam wand, you wind up with an almost meringue-like foam that will hang on like it's its job. That looks pretty good. I don't know if you need the steam wand.

>>18723368
Jingle my nuts with a tossed salad bagel.

>>18723385
I've never actually asked if they carey smoked salmon but I've never seen it listed. Also they don't do doordash/uber eats deliveries either or they'd be slammed all day
>>18723415
The staff is all millenial/zoomer women so that's actually a secret menu item

>>18723376
I mean yeah, I would kinda recommend spending $400 first before you drop 3k on that thing. Also is a spring lever?

>>18723422
>The staff is all millenial/zoomer women so that's actually a secret menu item
They are absolutely relentless ass eaters from my experience so I would not be surprised if one of them took you into the back and gave you a rusty trombone on a slow day.

>>18723238
>>18723297
any copper recommendations? I only know about v60 but I don't even know why it's the standard rec. is it even better than the other ones?

>>18723427
There's a few pretty hot chicks that work there, most are average though and theres a couple hags too

>>18723434
Any Asians? They'll do it without even being asked, they go out of their way to make sure your salad is tossed properly.

>>18723433
Popular so there's a lot of techniques and filters for it, is definitely good since it's been tested to hell and back, with other shapes you milage may vary, hario makes high quality stuff (well not all the time, but their brewers are good).

fixed the leak in my freezer that was dripping into my fridge (drip pan/tube was totally iced over). drinking some good coffee (I love my espro bros). Horny. Life is good

>>18723423
yeeeeeaaaahh
i'll look into it

>>18723439
Just don't overdo it on the sugar free...
>he make Haribo joke...
I was given a copper V60-ish pourover a few years ago, something a friend made, and it does work great, but it comes with a few caveats (that I already knew from brewing beer)
1) You want to clean and dry that shit. Oxidized copper's ok, but copper salts are bad for piggy's digestion. If you start seeing verdigris (blue or green), scrub it off.
2. A warmup's not a terrible idea, but it's nowhere near as effective as it is on porcelain or glass, because the copper cools down (and also heats up) much faster.

I have the smallest Moka pot that pretty much makes one cup at a time, can I reuse the coffee in the basket if I wanna make coffee for multiple people or will it be gross after the first brew

>>18723465
Don't reuse coffee. It's like asking if you can use a squeezed lemon to make lemonade. I mean you might be able to wring something out of it, but not much.

>>18723463
Yeah a really nice part of having a ceramic v60 is that it's the easiest thing in the world to clean. I don't even rinse it out most of the time. It's simpler than even an aeropress.

>>18721318
I got a K1 before my K5. Huge upgrade both times since the K1 was replacing a shitty blade electric grinder I was gifted and the K5 makes a much better cup (and it was on sale). Now my K1 grinds these white peppercorns I get with incredible ease

>>18723376
why not a decent?

>>18723496
I don't think I'll ever delve into the espresso autism that you can get into with the decent.
Already have the Flair 58 to do that and I find myself just repeating simple shots instead of trying to capture flows and whatever else the rabbit hole leads.
If the 800 is anything like operating a lever/bolt action gun, or driving a manual, I know I will love it.

>>18723506
I wonder, are there any coffee equipment shops in your area? Maybe they'd let you walk in and try how a spring lever feels.

>>18723135
Should have bought an origami

>>18723514
don't think i've seen a lever machine at a local shop
seems like a liability issues so it's a toss up on whether they would actually let me touch the machine

>>18723370
>>18723399
Thanks.
I hoped that you would’ve told me that the foam looked “meh” desu, so I could justify using the steam wand on the machine I’m going to buy.

>>18723550
Sounds like you should just get the steam wand then lol

>>18723542
Weird, I'm in New England and there's spring levers everywhere.

>>18723550
ANON IT'S GONNA SPILL!

>>18723560
OH SHIT OH FUCK OH SHIT

Does it matter which size french press I buy if I'm mainly going to be making coffee for one person? (~350ml)

>>18723577
based bluey enjoyer
do do do do
do do

>>18723606
Don't.
But an Aeropress instead.

>>18720800
I'm on a quest to enjoy black coffee but I'm a poorfag with a french press, a regular blender and commercial coffee. What steps, aside from getting a life, should I follow to achieve that? My biggest barrier is bitterness.

>>18723606
with the hoffmeme method no. but you really should just get an espro

>>18723614
mmmmm heated microplastics....

>>18723616
use lighter roast beans, use colder water (not boiling), shorter immersion time, do the hoffman method
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st571DYYTR8
get a cheap chink copy grinder like the k5, buy better beans, do pourover

>>18721620
>generic kroger brand coffee is meh

shock

Kino

>>18723625
Lol imagine being so low test that you worry about that shit.

Welp.. my week day and week is ruined. Bought my first ever good crank grinder, waited a week for shipping, it felt more like 2 weeks. IT CAME FUCKING USED. Fucking other people's coffee grounds inside it!

It was used right? The manufacturers don't test their grinders and leave grounds inside?

>>18723656
They're alright, but I generally don't like sweets with liquid inside of them

>>18723900
New grinders don't come with ground coffee on the burrs, no. You've been bamboozled.

>>18723900
which one was it and where did you buy it?

>>18723900
>used
The proper term is experienced. Chud incels like you should be happy to even touch a grinder (also touch grass).

>>18723900
what a coincidence, I returned a crank grinder a few months ago after only trying it a few days

>>18723924
1zpresso Q2 from Amazon

>>18723900
It's pre-seasoned for you
Already coated with coffee bean oils ready for use

>>18723900
i know they pre-test the niche zero
although mine didn't have any visable grinds

>>18723900
lol

>>18723931
Kek

>>18723900
bro, they seasoned it for you.

>>18723900
Should have bought local, should have bought a Timemore c2

how often should I clean my grinder?

>>18724249
bout as often as you have sex

>>18724250
based

Kino M47 or Comandante C40?

>>18724291
m47.
>>18724215
you'd think after all this autistic screeching your buddy would have bought you a better grinder. I mean
>gwamigwang

>>18724291
Which ever one you like the look of more. Although if you're gonna be doing espresso you'll want redclicks for the c40, which bumps up the price a bit.

Do manual flat burr grinders exist?

>>18724372
Yes, but they're big stationary things.

>>18724381
Sad
I get that they'll never get as small as conical grinders but I had hope there was something out that that was semi-portable

>>18724372
Yes and that other retard doesn't know what he's talking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia2w2WPi-yk

>>18724372
Either you're looking at a massive machine with a massive gear ratio, or a massive crank for you to turn with your massive forearms.

>>18724413
did he ever ship any out?

>>18724441
It was a KGB psyop.

>>18724441
All the units got melted down to help the war effort

>>18724301
Ain't a thing wrong with my grinder, bud.

>>18724441
A bunch, all made to order. Its the guy behind this "brand's" side project or some shit.
>I will make custom electric coffee grinders for any commercially available or customer-provided millstones, conical or flat. Each coffee grinder is made taking into account the individual wishes of the customer.
https://www.instagram.com/bonafabrica/?hl=en
https://prokofe.ru/plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?195171.0
https://www.youtube.com/@maximdeyneko1873/videos

>>18724678
It's you, isn't it, Max? You can tell us.

>>18724728
Max doesn't have a wug, just 98mm ssps bolted onto a sausage caser.

>decide to finally pull the trigger on an electric non-temp controlled hario kettle for 70 bucks because I'm not getting a better deal
>supplier messages me back with "yeah sorry bro we don't have that even though we list it on our website"
Back to square fucking one. Might just get a regular hario kettle with a hotplate. Do they work on induction plates? Doubt I'll get one even if they do since an induction plate + kettle would be about on par with some decent temp controlled ones price-wise, but still I'm curious.

>>18724798
Yep.

>>18724774
Maksym... c'mon buddy... you're safe here.

>>18724841

doctor said my hand is recovering from surgery nicely and i can go back to grinding coffee beans whenever it doesn't hurt
lfg boys

its almost 10pm, should i drink the goffee?

>>18725561
Tennisnon here. I picked up a theragun mini. Seems to help out.
>>18725574
9:51pm. Primetime for an espresso.

>>18725599
glad to hear it fren. I have one of those for my back and shoulders (feels good man) but it didn't do shit for nerve pain. they're pretty dang good

>>18725604
Less nerve pain, more to break up scar tissue. I think I need the cone attachment and a sadist off tinder to dig into my shoulder.

>>18723125
hope you aren't trying to do anything with that wand because they suck shit compared to the silvia.

>>18725639
can they do that? I've got some scar tissue post surgery that the doc said would need ultrasonic intervention if it didn't go away on its own. wouldn't mind taking the massage gun to it myself down the road if push came to shove instead.

>>18726007
>It's a pro favorite, used by some trainers, physical therapists, and other health professionals to break up scar tissue and deliver our most targeted percussive treatment.
I've read the two attachments you want are the cone for scar tissue and the wedge for scraping shoulder blades and other long muscles. The v1 mini I just snagged from Sam's club for $120 only came with the default nubbin tho so I've got no clue yet.

>>18726025
good to know. my chinesium one came with a cone and a bunch of other stuff so I'll give it a go down the line. all the best anon.
t. minus eight hours until coffee time (general)

i still have a pod machine in my kitchen but haven't used it in months
the v60 is just too comfy

>>18726030
Best of luck. Easy on that hand grinding in the morning. Slow and steady wins the race, 45 degree angled feed etc.

>>18720800
What’s the best tasting cheap instant coffee I can get at Walmart on eBay?

bought 3 liters of cold brew
tastes great.
made with a natural honduras or something like that.
perfect for a midnight goff. quick, tasty, silent.

>make coffee in v60
>almost never comes out quite right
>run out of filter
>fall onto my backup aeropress
>coffee comes out great
I enjoy brewing with the v60 more, I just wish I didn't suck at it.

>>18726062
>bought

>>18726381
sorry is this a joke i am too rich to understand?

>>18726394
Ur supposed to brew it urself

>>18726396
yeh and im "supposed to" use a moka how the italians tell me to.
but we both know that is never going to happen ever.
oh and i just bought a bag of anaerobic fermented brazilian/natural ethiopian light roast and it literally tastes like the smell of diarrhea food poisoning human shit.
what
the
fuck
well at least i bought a bag of ol' faithful natural process burundi.

>>18726426
I suggest you brew at least one cup with it and try it. I bought some farty-smelling brazilian coffee once and while I'm not a massive fan of it, the taste was actually pretty nice despite the smell.

brewing it yourself is an essential part of the cold brew experience
buying cold brew is like fucking a hooker instead of having sex with a woman you love

>>18726432
>I suggest you brew at least one cup with it and try it
>it literally tastes
i did brew a cup bucko.
the beans smelt fine this morning.
idk maybe i fucked up the ratio.
i like to test the extremes with new beans, this morning i did a light 25g dose, just now i did a 33g dose.
so tomorrow i will try 23g and see where i end up.

>>18726447
Oh yeah my bad, didn't read it right. If it tastes bad to you don't feel bad about throwing it away, consider it a lesson learned.

>>18726437
im having family stay for 1 week over christmas and there is a 0% chance i let them touch any of my coffee gear so when i was buying my beans last week i saw they were also selling a 3 liter cask of cold brew which i had never seen before. so i thought great i can tell them to drink this instead of my coffee.
and i know for a fact that this cold brew is better than anything they normally drink so im sure they will be happy with it.

>>18726450
>don't feel bad about throwing it away
>buying and receiving a new bag of specialty coffee from my usual roaster 2000km away on christmas...
lol, lmao.
i got a roaster in town but they just do normie shit like medium dark brazil and whatnot.
its fresh roasted so better than nothing i guess.

>>18720800
rate my setup

>Sumatra for espresso
Surprisingly good, probably the best beans I have for milk drinks (cortado, etc.). Still not my favorite for espresso but a good change of pace
>Sumatra for pour over
Forgettable.

Is there something I’m missing? Shouldn’t Sumatra be the opposite; good for normal coffee and mid for espresso?

>>18726795
>bad filter
>ugly jar
>cheap kettle
>meh grinder (still head and shoulders above the rest of the equipment I'm guessing)
>dirty as fuck work area
>dirty as fuck mug (even worse)
9/10 because the cats are cute.

>be me at grocery store
>decide to try some fancy organic coffee for a change instead of the cheap mass produced stuff
>get home and realize it's a bag of full beans
>oh shit I don't have a grinder
>buy hand grinder off amazon (pic related: it's made with steel/aluminum/wood/glass, no plastic or ceramic)
>make a cup of freshly ground organic fancy pants coffee in my french press
>best coffee I've ever had
>you can actually drink it black
Yeah I'm thinking I'm officially a coffee snob

>>18726818
welcome, fren.

>>18723938
>Amazon
There's your mistake.

>>18726818
You're not a coffee snob, you're just not an absolute coffee plebian anymore.
>>18726840
Amazon sells some good grinders.

>>18726841
I'm sure they do, they even let you buy used ones for the price of new. Great!

>>18726845
Oh you're the anon that got screwed on the q2 kek. Did you complain to amazon yet? You might be able to return it or get another one.

>>18726357
You'll get better with time. Thank fuck for the Aeropress, though!

>>18726866
I managed to find an electric hario kettle for a reasonable price, so maybe having a proper pouring kettle will help. My current kettle isn't god awful, but it can be quite hard to do a smooth consistent pour with it.
Also I can't swirl properly to save my life. I don't know if I'm doing it too hard or not hard enough or what, the walls of my v60 are always covered with coffee grounds.

made a triple cup Americano with anon's aeropress recipe, the inverted hoffmeme+wendelboe schtick. worked like a charm but I think I'd need to do it without inversion to allow some water through, and needed some verrrry gentle stirring to avoid spilling. which is great, because I top out at 3 cups myself anyway.

>>18726872
Nice! I've been meaning to find one of those for myself. You'll get there, bud
>>18726883
Based

>>18722518
you need to tamp harder

>>18726883
If you're willing to drop $30 on an accessory you could get the fellow prismo, which stops the water from coming through until you press. So you could stir all you want without worrying about it dripping.

>>18726904
there's an idea. I'll report back doing it not inverted to see if there's any taste difference. I recall lance saying that the early drips in a v60 are a positive influence on taste and I don't see why that wouldn't be different with an aeropress

>>18726898
In case you're in europe, I bought mine here
https://www.coffeecircle.com/en/p/hario-buono-wasserkocher
It's on sale for 58€ with free shipping right now. Can't vouch for how long it takes to get here or the quality of it because I haven't gotten mine yet though.

>>18726913
Thanks for that, I'm in Canada. Have a good day!

>>18726915
Ah alright. Well good luck then.

>>18726883
nice!
it changes the recipe, but you could try two pours to make a little more room. first one at 1:2, agitate and then the rest. i found this method can easily overextract, so less agitation may be needed.

>>18726955
maybe the gentle agitation avoided it. really one back and forth pass might be enough to make sure everything is saturated

Is there a big enough difference between the classic and the espresso profile for third wave water? I want to steal some from work but all we have in the 4L powder is the espresso.

>>18720800
Why do most Aeropress recipes involve 1-2 minute brewing time when its inventor just stirs and plunges right away?

>>18727023
good to know!

>>18727231
dark roast

>>18727231
The inventor also uses filters 30-40 times before throwing them. You should ignore everything he says.

Thinking about grabbing one of these for myself, anyone have and experience with this?

>>18727374
No idea but for that price it probably sucks

>>18727374
It's a capsule machine so you're not gonna get a lot of feedback from this general

>>18727374
Get an Aeropress instead for a fifth of the price and join the gang

>>18727374
if you're making a whole pot it's hard to recommend a model that doesn't have an insulated carafe desu. there's a ninja coffee maker in my family and it's not bad, definitely a bump up from the ol Mr coffee, but for whole pots its insulated carafe is a godsend.

>>18727374
ask yourself this: "would the hoff buy it?"
if the answer is no, stay away from it

in other words, get a bripe instead

my coffee is "sour"when i use a moka pot
i cant get this thing right

>>18727268
Based recycler

>>18727374
if you end up looking beyond these machines, research the hario switch and a hand grinder. simple and requires the tiniest bit of effort.

>>18727411
try going finer

>>18727411
same here even while following all of hoffman's guidelines

>>18727444
>try going finer
i'm already on 8 clicks of the timemore c3 pro which is apparently "espresso fine" range

>>18727459
can you go further? if not, more heat. sour is a sign of underextraction.

>>18727471
yeah i can i'll just drop it like four more clicks tomorrow and see what happens

>>18727529
take a look at your manual before doing so. i'm sure timemore recommends not going below a certain number to avoid the burrs making contact with each other.

Recommendations for coffee roasters? For europoor, good and affordable, if thats possible. I've heard some good things about behmor

>>18720800
coffee is terrible for you. it will cripple you with fatigue
drink tea instead.

>>18728202
No it won't and tea doesn't taste as good

>>18728170
Behmors are fine, you'll just need something to immediately dump the roast into to cool when you're done. Otherwise your beans over roast sitting in that hot ass oven.

>>18728214
coffee wrecked quite a few years of my life. it made me very tired. tea is so much better. the energy is mellower and lasts much longer and there is no crash. after all my coffee is used up, Im switching to tea full time, fuck coffee, it ruined my life. made me feel like I was 75 years old.

>>18728228
Bad genes and worse coffee.

>>18728228
should have taken l-theanine with your coffee

how do you dispose of your coffee grounds especially when using french press. I know you shouldn't put them down the drain. I tried using secondary containers but ran out and fungus started growing after a few days. It's too watery to throw directly in the trash can unlike drip grounds. I live in an apartment so no backyard compost

>>18728388
No organics collection? You probably have a local coffee shop that accepts grounds for a garden compost program - they love that shit.

Otherwise, garbage or toilet.

>>18728388
I dry my grounds on a pie tin on top of my computer so they don't mold.

>>18728388
Leave your grounds out on a plate to dry out and then dump them with the rest of your organics

>frozen over fog
>sitting on the porch with a double shot and cookies

>>18728541
i'm envious anon

>buy poorlex for $10
>use it for grinding spices instead of coffee
works fine in my kitchen, don't know what you're all complaining about

>>18728388
>It's too watery to throw directly in the trash can unlike drip grounds.
I can't say I have that problem. I usually just pour out the last ounce of coffee, leaving the grounds dry enough to just dump them in the trash.
How fine are you grinding?
I usually grind to a sand-like size for my french press.

fugg i think the coffee i had in the freezer for a week went bad. someone mentioned pencil shavings earlier and the taste is similar :/

>>18728388
I dunno bro just dump them out the window. Maybe use disposable ziploc bags if you're that adverse to pushing down all the way in your french to squeeze the water out. Get a different press? I've surrounded my shed with a moat of grounds to keep critters away

ok new here and clueless but i keep getting keurig machines every year and then regifting/returning them. it's getting annoying explaining what i did with them vs my french press, is there any benefit at all to these dumb pod machines. i never even open them.

>>18723235
Pretty bad. Would not serve that, or anything like it. Also, why is your bun in the shape of a croissant?

>>18723368
10mg of cbd is literally a placebo. Any study that has found any statistically significant effects of CBD has used doses in the 300mg range, and found very small effect sizes.

>>18723531
That looks awful. Also, why do origami brewers have a detached base that makes it impossible to get a level dripper and even extraction?

>>18723550
This is also pretty bad. Bubble size is quite large overall. Good milk should be glossy.

>>18729185
>makes it impossible to get a level dripper
Are you retarded?

>>18721255
>cheaper grinder <$40
You will hate a cheap grinder because the grind consistency is shit.
You'll need to go at least to the $60-$70 range (ie, a Timemore C2 Chestnut) to get a grinder that will give you results you'll be happy with.

bros what am i in for? dark rum and green chili? will i die?

>>18729185
Stupid mother fucker don't ever reply to me again you little BITCH

>>18727388
Based fuck yeah

>>18729290
>dark rum
>green chili
>goji berry

Got some preground coffee as a gift and it's turned insanely bitter and gross in only 4 days, is that normal? I know that's supposed to happen but in that short a time frame?

anyone take the half and half creamer from the dinery

>>18728388
Toilet.
Add more water to sluice it around, then dump it like diarrhea. Next best alternative is to decant all the water off and scoop it into the trash, wipe with paper towels, then rinse. French press cleanup works best when you can either throw that shit outside, or you have a garbage disposal in the sink. Apartments are the worst for French press.

Feels like a really dumb question, but how do you guys store your beans?
Would a zip-lock bag or a mason jar be good enough?

>>18727374
any electric coffee machine under $500 is dogshit
objectively

>>18729290
>goji berry
bin it.

>>18730022
>turned
? did it taste great when you first opened it

>>18730248
I store my green coffee in very heavy gauge plastic grain bags at around 60ºF in the basement. I am very careful to remove all the air from the bags, and I seal them airtight. My green coffee lasts about 18 months before I notice flavor loss. I dip into the mothership bags to retrieve about 5lbs at a time. I'm less careful with storing the smaller bags because I use that up within a few months.

I store roasted coffee in regular 1qt Ziplock freezer bags in the kitchen cabinet at room temp (70-75ºF), squeezing the air out every time I open it. It stays fresh for about a month, but I almost always drink it within 2 weeks.

The important theme here is protection from oxygen, humidity, excessive heat, and UV light, all of which degrade coffee at all stages more quickly. The problem with mason jars is that you cannot easily remove the oxygen. They make coffee storage canisters with vacuum pumps, but I don't bother. You can suck the air out of plastic bags by sticking a straw into the corner and sucking if you really want to. You can also buy one-way valve bags, but those are more for selling roasted coffee. You'll have to heat seal them again every time once opened to be on the level of a plastic bag or a fancy vacuum canister.

My beans were roasted 4 days ago. How about yours?

>>18730728
This morning.

>>18730767
Prove it. Post roaster

>>18728689
it may turn out to be an odd batch? going coarse with 24g, 100ml at 82c then diluting with 120ml after pressing seems to have fixed it. profile is still there with a touch of astringency but significantly better than a medium grind which was incredibly drying and got increasingly sour as it cooled .

>>18730833
Anon that's the gayest thing I've ever read.

>>18730863
thats a bit clumpy...

>>18730844
yea i bet you are

>>18730801
No. I ain't gotta prove shit. It's too cold.

>>18730908
Lol. Called out

>>18730924
show the moka more.

>>18731134

>>18731340
i hope its only seen italian roast

>>18731340
show the inside.

Is this an automatic manual lever?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-dxaLZTfGc

>>18731489
>automatic manual
eh?

>>18730801
I ordered something bali from happy mug roasted on December 20 I hope they don't suck this is the most I've ever paid for a bag of coffee

>>18731500
how much.

>>18731489
30 minutes of listening to these people is too much, i skipped around and have no fucking clue how this machine works.

>>18731475

>>18731497
Its like if a decent impregnated a flair58. Pressure created by a digitally controlled piston, heated brew head, but no boiler.
>>18731500
Blue moon or kintamani?

>>18731489
i'll take two

>>18731532
wtf isn't it supposed to be dirtier

>>18731532
bro, why aren't you seasoning your moka pot?

>>18731533
The ordering page called it ballin bali but one of the reviewers listed on it refers to it as blue moon, so maybe it's a rename?

>>18731532
clean it you disgusting fucking loser.

I just made coffee

>>18731577
Its dark roast bali blue moon. I roast up kintamani fairly light. Same crop, blue moon is washed, kintamani is nat.

No syphon coffee makers here?

>>18731604
Bullshit

>>18731637
They're cool, but not really something most people would consider for day to day coffee.
Also scrub exif metadata from your pics before posting so they don't get turned.

Attention! moka users, you're doing everything wrong, do it the Napolitano way:
https://youtu.be/yhIJq3VwDig
Including (non complete list):
>Vertical filling and pressing of your coffee in the pot
>Mixing your sugar with coffee before you make it
>Use sparkling water

>>18731705
>Mixing your sugar with coffee before you make it
What the fuck is wrong with italians?

>>18731500
How much did you pay, how much are you getting?
>>18731626
Yuck dark roast

>>18731637
Do you think the Syphonista is worth it?

>>18731626

>>18728388
I just pour it through a strainer over the sink then dump the grounds in the trash.

>>18731848
Mmm authentic italian dark roast, freshly mined

>>18731878
Disgusting

Gamigang x Geishagang

>>18731952
Bit coarse innit?

>>18731952
Based Origami User

New thread
>>18732091
>>18732091
>>18732091

>>18732005
I'm doing weird melodrip+lilydrip shit. Way less churn/agitation than ekg pours so the fines flow down in the bed and help filtration. Those bigger bits look like <1400 micron on the brewler. 3:15 drawdown 20:320 with abaca filters. Complex, floral, juicy as fuck, real fruity. Definitely getting the raspberry and hibiscus but I can see where others get jasmine. Its so good I'll make another cup just for you. I'll try to shoot for the same drawdown but way finer. 21 lbs left for the homeroastgang. $40/lb for everyone else.
https://thecaptainscoffee.com/products/costa-rica-hacienda-la-florida-gesha-natural
https://www.kaffeeklatsch.com/product/costa-rica-hacienda-la-florida-natural-gesha/

>>18731705
>fill coffee without pressing it
>heaps coffee on top
>presses it down with pot
wtf was the point of that I thought he was gonna take a knife and level it out

>>18729197
Every video I watch of someone using it shows it tilted. Why would you want to have to manually level and fiddle with it every time, rather than just having an attached, level base?

>>18731705
thanks for the rage bait
i am now enraged.