/ck/ - Food & Cooking

I have two dutch ovens

my beef bourguignon and braised chicken thighs are better and easier in a dutch oven, though CAN get similar results without one.

They're also good for chili, bread, oven roasting a whole chicken (for the larger size dutch oven).

all kinds of shit.

>>18928639
pasta sauce
>the way it simmers

I make bread in mine.

>>18928669
I like the meme handle.

>>18928639
Yes
I use it to bake my beans

>>18928712
Thanks, debating if I want to get another for the larger one.

>>18928719
I vote for the fish

>>18928719
go with the snail.

>>18928719
Get the cock so you can think "la cock otte" when you're saying cocotte, and when the lobster doesn't laugh you can say "you're being a little shellfish."

>>18928719
I'd pick the meat you mostly make in it
Or the rabbit

>>18928737
The cow would be the meat eaten most in it.

I do like the snail or rabbit idea though as an alternative.

>>18928741
snail because its a slow cooker.

>>18928639
I have two old worn out Creuset
They still work idgaf

>>18928639
I got a 6qt amazon basics dutch oven for $40 last year. I've cooked maybe 5 dishes in it. Shallowed fried chicken, osso buco, Dublin coddle, and a couple beef stews. Good for frying/braising meat, or long simmering stews, even to bake bread which I haven't tried yet. While it's not my most important cooking device, it's definitely useful to have one

>>18928669
>lobster handle
chad behavior

>>18928733
Underrated post

>>18928669
Looks like you zeroed in on a 5 quart and a 7 quart size?

>>18928727
Dont go for the fish meal, that's a good way to crash some passenger plane.
Not many folk know but the precursor to Airplane was Zero Hour.

>>18928639
i like to bake bread in my mine

>>18928924
My ex gf liked to bake my bread in her oven

>>18928913
4qt and 7qt

>>18928733
as shrimple as that

>>18928639
i have a dutch oven, not a le creuset tho. which we call in the netherlands (so dutchies), just a cast iron pan. i'm glad you americans call it a dutch oven tho, more creds for the netherlands. thanks

>>18929093
Why is your name for them English?

>>18929116
it's not called like this in the netherlands. we just call it a "gietijzeren pan" which translates to "cast iron pan" but dutch technology is used to create them. this is the explanation.

In the seventeenth century, molds for making cast iron objects were developed in the Netherlands using a special sand mixture. The Englishman Abraham Darby became acquainted with this unknown technique in the Netherlands and introduced it to England. After much experimentation, he succeeded in making rock-solid cast iron pans. Because of the Dutch technique, these pans subsequently became known as Dutch Ovens. A name that has always remained.

>>18928639
I thought a dutch oven was where a Dutch person puts food under the bed covers with them and then farts continuously to somehow cook the food? Not clear to me how it works exactly.

>>18928941
>>18928639
baking bread in the dutch oven is the best way to simulate a deck oven that a bakery would use, you preheat that bitch to like 500 degrees and then take it out, drop in your shaped loaf, score, throw an ice cube in, put it in for half the bake time covered then do half uncovered.

>put food in dutch oven
>food doesn't get hot no matter how long I wait
These things are a scam.

>>18929135
you put the dutch oven inside your regular oven anon

>>18929131
lmao. the advantage of dutch ovens is that it's compatible with ALL heat sources, and i mean all. you can put it in the oven, on the bbq, on a real flame, on the gas stove and induction etc. also it retains it's heat. it's a multi functional pan that has no limits. in every way. the downside is that it needs manual "seasoning" with oil

>>18928809
>6qt amazon basics dutch oven for $40 last year.
i throw my beer cans in the street so poor people, like youself, can have an income

>>18929129
>dutch technology is used to create them
What

>>18929131
The original style of cast iron pot called a dutch oven is called a Camp Oven now. The lid has a lip so you can stack coals on top and bake things in it.

>>18928639
Have a larger ceramic coated oval dutch oven and I keep it stored in my garage on my kitchenwares shelf. I bust it out for the following dishes:
Flamande
Brasato or any pot roast
Short ribs
Bolognese sauce
Whole or sectioned chicken dishes (not soups though)

Advantages are I've used it on all types of heat sources; natural gas hob and oven, propane grill, electric coil, glass-top electric, electric oven, etc.

Only drawback is that since there is a ceramic coating I can't use an immersion blender directly in the pot.

>>18929160
>it needs manual "seasoning" with oil
Even if it has an enamel coating?

I love stewing my chili in the Dutch. You can brown the meat and soften veggies then apply all other ingredients with the heat retention. I also made a pepper pot last week and it was amazing.

>>18928719
Oh, the rabbit is cute.

>>18928733
Got fucking Peewee Herman posting on /ck/ here.

>>18929425
> You can brown the meat and soften veggies then apply all other ingredients with the heat retention.
All of that can be done in a stainless pan

>>18929160
> advantage of dutch ovens is that it's compatible with ALL heat sources, and i mean all. you can put it in the oven, on the bbq, on a real flame, on the gas stove and induction etc. also it retains it's heat. it's a multi functional pan that has no limits. in every way
Any stainless pot does all of that

>>18929416
it's not a non-stick coating. you season if like a stainless.
>>18929549
>>18929553
true. stainless wins. but I've never seen a stainless pot that is just like a Dutch oven. most pots only have a thick bottom, not sides and the lid doesn't seal 100%

>>18929677
>Seasoning stainless
>or Enamel

>>18928639
le creuset is the basic bitch choice.
the quality of the materials and especially the enamel coating is so inferior compared to pic related you really ask yourself how they became the default choice for all meme youtubers (except weissman I guess)

>>18929873
Honestly though, for the price difference Lodge might not be quite a match for Staub but it's almost as good.

>>18929873
staubs are far more handsome, however I would just prefer a white interior coating if im going to even bother using enameled cast iron, even though it probably doesn't matter much anyways.

>>18929905
>even though it probably doesn't matter much anyways
it doesn't

>>18929905
>even though it probably doesn't matter much anyways
it actually does but not like you think. staub's black coating will always look clean even in 5 or 20 years from now but le creuset always degrades and looks dirty as fuck after a few years (2) of use and you can't fix that

>>18929930
Does it really matter, though? We can probably assume the Staub enamel is experiencing the same wear as the LC, but we just can’t see what’s happening because dark stains on black just show as black.

>>18929677
I have a Piazza 16 litre stainless steel deep pot and it does all of the things you say you can't find in stainless. It's my #1 go-to for soups, stews, and ragù.

>>18929928
>>18929930
>>18930349
Staub's dark interior coating also has better non-stick properties compared to Le Creuset's cream colored one

>>18928916
everybody knows that though. the real secret is that star wars is a remake of the hidden fortress.

>>18928639
>Do you have a dutch oven?
Yes, a 5.5L one. I use it for pretty much everything from sauces to chili to stuff like osso bucco

>>18928639
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dutch%20oven

dutch oven cobbler. Generally a camping recipe, but also works well at home.

>>18929425
>>18928809
blue dutch ovens look like kids toys lol

>>18931913
What did you play with growing up

>>18930836
Both based on the novel Red Harvest

>>18928639
what color le creuset is best?

>>18932655
only the white ones don't look like they were specifically designed for gay men (the effeminate kind)

>>18928719
go with the snail you cant go wrong with chirality

I use it for anything that requires searing/stir frying followed by simmering in a lot of liquid. Stuff like boeuf bourguignon, chili, bolognese...

>>18932528
You've confused your Kurasawa movies, it was Yojimbo and A Fistful of Dollars that were based on Red Harvest.

>>18933238
Imagine being so far in the closet you get scared people will think you're gay because of your dutch oven.

>>18933692
It's probably because Blue Harvest was a filming code name for RotJ.

Guess I’ll ask here. Got a lazy Dutch oven recipe that’s basically chicken thighs, carrots, and potatoes in chicken stock. I want to add more to it but the only thing I can think that would work is parsnips. What else could I add to flesh it out and make it even heartier than it is?

>>18934148
How about onions, white beans, butter

>>18934174
I skipped out on the details but I start with butter, sauté garlic until fragrant, add diced onions, and then cook the thighs to get some rich goodness in the bottom before I add my stock, carrot, and taters to simmer
>white beans
good call, chick peas might be a good look

>le creuset owners
>I like the color and the shape of it. the enamel is very nice and smooth too. the warranty is great. it's made in france and not china, isn't that neat?

>staub owners
>le creuset owners are gay. le creuset don't have drippy nips. research shows It's better than le creuset. le creuset le creuset le creuset
yupp. feels pretty bad ass to live rent free in your heads

>>18929904
>Lodge might not be quite a match for Staub but it's almost as good.

Staub is made in France and Lodge's enameled products are made in China.

>>18934398
More like le cruset owners seething about their discolored enamel after a year or two and then spending the next decade sperging out in /ck/ threads anytime someone mentions staub being better because of the black enamel.

>>18934513
let me remind you the comparisons itt started with >>18929873
>le creuset is the basic bitch choice.

>>18934398
Le Creuset Dutch Ovens are the superior choice of material over Staub Dutch Ovens. They last for a long time and are far more reliable, so you don't have to worry about needing to buy a new one any time soon. The enameled interior prevents food from sticking, making it easier to clean and more versatile. Le Creuset Dutch Ovens also have wide, easy-grip handles and you can use them on both gas and electric stoves, making them all-around great kitchen tools. All in all, they are the superior choice when it comes to Dutch Ovens.

>>18928639
>Dutch oven
It's not Dutch, but yes I do own one
>Are there any dishes
Lots. Bread. Stews. All stews. Bolognese, hutsepot, ragu Napolitano. Soup. Stock.
>not really sure why I couldn't get by with other cookware I have
Proper stainless (WMF, Demeyere) is almost as good but far easier to clean and store. And it lasts forever. I'm using my mother's 40 yo pans and it's like they've never been used.

>>18934562
>They are the superior choice because X, Y and Z. X is good because this reason. Y is good because this reason. Z is good because this reason. All in all, they’re just plain better, OK!
Someone paid attention in high school writing class during “The Paragraph” chapter of the textbook, and then never paid attention ever again beyond that.

I made this bread for the first time in mine but I forgot to score the top so it blew out this side pussy

>>18928669
Also enjoy that lobster handle...so damn based

>>18934638
>WMF
no longer true. I'm sure your mom's 40 yo WMF is god tier but their new stuff is mostly chink shit that isn't half as good. they only live on their name now, the products are no longer the same quality

>>18928639
My dad just bought that exact dutch oven for ~$300. Yet another kitchen appliance he'll never use.

>>18935307
How big

I paid $250 for my 7qt, I've debated on buying a 13-15qt sized one for doing large batches of chili, or for roasting a whole turkey or goose or some shit. But the $600-750 price tag has so far held me off.

>>18928639
It's haxx for bread. You get steam like a professional oven. Yes, you can do it with a pan and water, but you can shatter your glass of you fuck up, and it's extra steps.
>Pic
I don't recommend this, but I put pan de cristal dough in my dutch oven.

>>18928639
I use it almost 100% in the oven. I bake breads and roast root veggies. 100% worth it.

>>18929340
That's my total grid down food plan. I got 40 pounds of briquettes and a shit load of flour. I also have fire wood for heat and extra coals. Once I get my sourdough starter and water storage figured out, I'll be able to eat for weeks without anything from the grid or supply chain.

>>18935600
JESUS CHRIST that crust is giving my mouth an erection. Post crumb.

how easy is it to scratch

is it ok to scoop with metal ladle

dutch ovens are cool, just don't get tacky girl colors you will regret it forever

>>18935612
dont use metal implements unless you wanna scratch your enamel.

>>18935613
I have a tacky plum Dutch oven I bought because it was a factory second with a further 30% off from a sale at the outlet store. I bought it because it was essentially 70% off. Luckily my based mother gifted me this much more aesthetically pleasing grey model. I don’t remember what the finish is called, it no longer appears on Le Creuset’s website.

>>18935642
it's exactly what those aldi pans for 15 bucks look like but still 1000x better than plum

>>18935611
The middle collapsed, unfortunately. It stuck to the lid while proofing.

>>18935613
I went with just plain matte black cause it was the cheapest.

>>18935699
it's a solid choice. I hate glossy black so I was gonna get this as well but I'm not gonna lie, it's really disappointing compared to the shiny white truffle when you see both pots in person

>>18935732
I've seen most of the currently available colors in person, I just don't care enough to spend the extra.

$100 for the 4qt, $250 for the 7qt.


If I end up splurging on a 13.25qt at some point I might go with a fancy color, since if I'm gonna spend $600+ I might as well get whatever I like the most.

>>18928639
I like an actual 4qt. I don't often need the size of a 5-6qt, and 3qt is indeed too small for the effort of making something that is literally only 1-2 servings.

Chili and any soup with beans really does well in it. This could be lentils or pasta faioli. It could be some a big pot of greens, a simple base of bacon and onions lining the bottom of the freshly rinsed mustards or collards. No sticking and no burning if you lose a moment of time in your busy cooking night. Creamy soups do better, like a potato soup, or a cheesy broccoli. I like to make a quick corn chowder, or a nearly quick pozole, and the hominy that sinks to the bottom stays unstuck.

Of course you will need a nice wooden spoon or silicone spoonula and a nice soft ladle to keep the ceramic lining nice. I love my staub silicone coated twin hardwood which is really a coated "spurtle" which is very versatile.

>>18935748
makes sense. black and red seem to be much cheaper than other colors for some reason. I waited on a sale for the white truffle but it was still much more expensive than those two colors. no regrets though. it's the best looking option out of any staub / le creuset by a big margin I think. hope they start selling completely white le creusets again in the near future although I know the enamel is shit compared to staub it would still be nice to have a white interior for certain things

Nutmeg looks very sharp.

>>18928639
Nothing more based than bread cooked in a Dutch oven. You get a really nice crust with all the trapped steam.

>>18936070
Looks nice

>>18928639
>Do you have a dutch oven?
I make bread with mine.

>>18937195
based, same

>>18935613
Tacky girl colors are fun. It feels like I'm living with a girl. I use girly scented shampoo for the same reason. I live alone but can think there's a girl around somewhere.

1. Fry a bottom round roast in a dutch of in until it's browned
2. Garlic in
3. White wine deglaze
4. Add carrots, a red cabbage, and an armful of oyster mushrooms (home grown)
5. Bake it all day

Tastes a lot better than it looks, folks

>>18938043
one day anon...

>>18938043
Huh, that's a smart idea. Thanks anon.

>>18928719
Snail for slow cooking

>>18928639
Yes. Sour dough bread in a home oven.
4-8 quarts.

>>18939121
>Sour dough bread
post it

>>18928639
These fuckers need to go on sale

>>18940590
They do fairly regularly

My mom gave me one and I feel like every time I sear my roast with it, I get brown spots that are just a pain in the ass to get off. Are you supposed to keep the inside looking impeccable or does it not matter?

>>18940761
you are supposed to deglace it. if there are still brown spots after that you know you fucked up because you got the le creuset woman option and not staub

>>18940761
Barkeeper's friend is willing to be your friend, too.

>NOOOOOOOOO, you can’t just clean up the crust on your pan with soap and water when you’re done cooking
>you need to use le blanc wine to DEGLOOCE it
>I’M DEGLOOOOOOOCING

>>18940789
For enamel?

>>18940780
Considering it's from my mom I'm pretty sure it is le creuset

>>18940789
Damn I could try that. I use that stuff in and around my sink

My mom got me a no-brand dutch oven from Walmart and it seems to work just fine. The enamel on the inside is smooth and things don't stick to it, and it's easy to wash. It's heavy. The inside of the lid has drippy nipples. This thing was like 40 bucks. What exactly do you get for your money extra when you buy a Staub or Le Cruset?

>>18940992
Forgot pic

>>18940992
Lifetime warranty, assurance that it’s not made with some sort of toxic Chinese pot metal being labeled as cast iron, supporting products being made in first world nations, resale value, an expected lifespan long enough that many are passed on as heirlooms to their children. Functionally there may be little difference but in every other way, staub and le creuset are better. Don’t spend the money if you don’t have it to spend but if you aren’t hurting for money then buy from a legit company and stop supporting China.

>>18940992
A blowjob from the non English speaking cashier.

>>18940625
They haven’t since November at least the size I want I’ve been watching like a hawk

>>18943758
Well this is probably the worst time of year for sales on that shit, post-holiday season you'll rarely get good deals on enameld cast iron shit.

If I remember they usually do a sale mid-late spring or early summer.