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19158585 No.19158585 [Reply] [Original]

I'd like to try my hand at making venison. I see it as the most ethical meat you can consume - much more environmentally conscious than beef or pork, and the animal is straight from the wild instead of a concentration camp.

I live in New Jersey, which may as well be the deer capital of planet earth, they're everywhere and always run into the roads. So I figured it'd be cheap and readily available. Nope. The closest place sells it for a fortune and has the deer shipped in from a fucking farm in New Zealand. Other places offer to butcher the deer for you if you bring a carcass in but don't actually sell the meat. I was reading that a bill in 2014 was trying to make it legal for hunters to sell the meat in the state but found nothing about whether it passed.

What the fuck? How does this make any sense? Why do you have to buy farm-raised deer shipped in from the other side of the planet rather than just fucking buy locally hunted deer from a local hunter or butcher to help control populations, just seems completely backwards to me. Am I just retarded and have been horribly misguided / didn't look hard enough?

>> No.19158705

>>19158585
You can probably go get one yourself
But keep calling game processors the ones around me do stock venison
I don't know what the law is in NJ though

>> No.19159289

>>19158585
Just hunt your own dumbass

>> No.19159342

>>19158585
join or find a local hunters club and buy from them

>> No.19159368

>>19158585
Wild meat's an iffy thing - basically assume it has parasites. Chronic Wasting Disease is a thing too, and they're not 100% sure it can't infect people. If you want to safely cook rare venison, you're pretty much stuck with farmed.

>> No.19159419

>>19158585
The lacey act of 1900 ended market hunting in the united states. Cervids aren't typically domesticated and most farmers would prefer to stock more reliable animals.

>> No.19159425

>>19158585
>much more environmentally conscious than beef
In what way?

>> No.19159718

>>19159425
The livestock industry produces more emissions than the entire transportation sector put together - every last car, truck, ship, airplane. Vast swathes of land are developed to support factory farms. The amount of food required to feed the cattle alone could probably feed the entire world a thousand times over.

The carbon footprint of killing and eating some deer fucking around in the woods by your house is infinitesimally smaller than the footprint you produce buying beef at the grocery store. That's to say nothing of how much meat a single deer yields vs the amount of beef you'd have to buy to match it.

>>19159368
Yeah that's why you're soft and pink. Enough people eat wild deer that it clearly isn't a huge problem or health issue.

>> No.19159728

>>19159718
Yeah and has since before the dinosaurs ruled the earth you cunt "emissions" aren't bad plants emit all sorts of shit

>> No.19159736

>>19159728
lmfao

>> No.19159739

>>19159718
Deer were nearly exterminated in the United States during the great depression, it absolutely isnt enough to feed the general population hunted meats of any sort.
Furthermore cwd is a huge concern for transmission to people, it's already been found to readily infect any animals that consume grass infected deer defecate on.
It's just that testing of the dead for prion diseases is rarely done in the USA so we really don't know how prevalent they are regardless of where they come from in the general population.

>> No.19159749

>>19159739
Every DNR and game processor tests for all of this stuff
Jesus they even test for COVID now, it's fucking retarded
>t.I don't even know how to describe my job I read a lot of DNR reports

>> No.19159755

>>19159739
Sure it's not enough to replace the entire USA's current meat consumption. But if we all went plant-based and just hunted for meat as a luxury (as it biologically should be) it'd be more than enough.
>cwd is a huge concern for transmission to people
Hmm never heard of it.

>> No.19159761

>>19159755
Chronic wasting disease, and yeah, it's a problem on the East Coast, but that doesn't stop literally millions of people from hunting in every state especially over there
I'd be more worried about getting that tick that makes you allergic to farmed red meats, DESU
It's like the ticks want you to hunt the deer

>> No.19159764

>>19159749
And in some places it is very prevalent, what is uncertain is whether or not this particular prion disease can make the jump to people.
It has already been shown to infect all forms of rodents that have been exposed to it in tests.
They also do not crack open people skulls to test for things like this unless specifically asked for or suspected.
So best of luck with taking risks with a prion disease.

>> No.19159769

>>19159761
>>19159764
Both of these sound fake. You sound like someone who would take meds a doctor prescribed you.

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19159781

>>19159769
You are retarded

>> No.19159785

*Cooking venison. You aren't 'making' venison. The venison already exists.

>> No.19159787

>>19159769
I would, and have, and will, eat a deer, untested for CWD, before taking any jabs
It's a real thing and the photos are nasty, it's obvious you don't eat the bad meat
It's like saying rotten eggs are a problem so you shouldn't eat eggs
Motherfucker you can tell when an egg is rotten

>> No.19159796

>>19159787
Prion diseases are a slow death and show little to no symptoms at first.
Unless you assiduously remove all nerve fibers from the body it absolutely isn't with the risk.

>> No.19159802

>>19159796
The deer don't live that long, and there's not a lot to suggest that prions can survive cooking, let alone the stomach acid bath
Don't snort raw deer brains
The truth is probably in the middle of our arguments, and some prions make it through
But so does radiation, metals, crazy shit
It wears us down, but it doesn't starve us
Starvation kills way quicker

>> No.19159806

>>19159368
It's required to test for CWD before a deer is butchered.

They won't butcher CWD deer.

Quit being a pussy and eat some venison.

>> No.19159822

>>19159802
If the shape of the prion is similar to bse it absolutely can survive cooking, only incineration destroys it and even then in the ashes there was evidence of some proteins not denaturing due to incomplete burn which is why ashes of bse related culls are buried.

>> No.19159839

>>19159796
>it absolutely isn't worth the risk
>google "prion disease from eating deer"
>first result "To date, there have been no reported cases of CWD infection in people."
I'll take my chances being the first infected human in the history of eating deer.

>> No.19159849

>>19159822
I'm not saying CWD is a non-issue
I'm saying they want people to be afraid to hunt and provide for themselves
When wildlife departments started testing animals for COVID that became obvious
There's no COVID test for trout otherwise anglers would be shit on for TSE

>> No.19159865

>>19159839
Like I said, there's ticks to worry about
>nut check, I hope you have cigarettes
>lol the gov't hates cigs, too
>make a punk with a matchlock rope
Hey you weren't supposed to do that!

>> No.19159901

>>19159865
Oh yeah wow I forgot about ticks. Let me never set foot in the woods again.

>> No.19159931

>>19159901
tryna tell 4ch to avoid innawoods because scury is like saying the porn in the trees has too much hentai

>> No.19160765

>>19159718
Moreso explaining why he can't just go and buy roadkill out of a blood-spattered Chevy, but you do you boo.

>> No.19160769

>>19159806
It is required that you go back.

>> No.19161135

Google "Mustard Fried Venison"

Doesn't look that great, tastes amazing.