/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Constipation and severe vitamin deficiencies that can lead to stuff like scurvy

>>19369901
>no salt
grim

>>19369901
>no salt
Why?

>>19369901
Hopefully it causes you to stop posting here. That would be awesome.

>>19369907
meat cooked below 150 degrees contains tons of vitamin c
it's the main reason inuits and eskimos eat raw meat and never get scuvy. 2.56mg per 100g for beef.

>>19369930
kek gottem

>>19369928
I don't have salt, I'm broke

>>19369931
Plus im 20kgs fatter than what I'm supposed to be, I don't need carbs I guess.

>>19369931
>2.56mg per 100g for beef.
That's not much. Organs have a lot more. Inuits do consume plant foods when available though. And I've read they'll consume the stomach contents of herbivores sometimes.

>>19369960
You can eat nothing but steak every day but can't afford salt. Okay.

I did the carnivore thing for a while, it's good but you need to be salting your food
Make sure to eat liver once a week also

I enjoyed the lifestyle but what ultimately did me in is I took a chance on chicken that was a little funky and it destroyed my gut

Knocked me out for a few weeks, took months to get back to normal
So during that time I could only keep down white rice and broth basically

>>19370034
lol pussy

>>19369901
that's the carnivore diet. you'll feel incredible if you stick to it for a month.

You need some salt to live, retard

I hope to God that you're eating organs as well and not just red meat

>>19370105
Organs are yucky. I'll take some vitamins pills.

>>19369901
>What will happen to me


Hypothyroidism, add iodinated salt to your diet u faggot.

>>19370108
NGMI
Organs are the healthiest food on the planet.

>>19370323
Liver tastes good when coocked with bacon, onions. and lemon juice. It taste awful on its own.

>>19370034
oof you probably got gastroenteritis. That shit had my stomach fucked for about 5 months and was on the same diet
>>19370037
I pray you never know that level of true pain friend

>>19370323
okay Ezekiel, should we whip ourselves in penance for enjoy the taste of other foods too?

i planned to do pure carnivore for the month of january

I made it to jan 25 and quit because I was exhausted of having pure water spraying out of me multiple times a day.

you need fiber to feed your bacteria or they will have a rebellion.

>>19369901
enjoy cancer

>>19370368
i'm convinced that people delude themselves with the carnivore diet being good for them because their microbiome is already ruined so they feel bad when they eat a vegetable

>>19370356
ew, yucky wucky! i only eat plain cheese pizzas and cheeseburgers! anything else is torture! yucky ucky wucky!

>>19370384
i believe it.
i spent the entire month of february trying to repopulate my gut bacteria by eating fermented foods and fiber every day

buckwheat with onions and sauerkraut is a great combination. Those russians really know whats up

rice with kimchi is good too

>>19370397
did it work? i heard some korean doctor told people to eat kimchi for a month and found success

>>19370405
it worked, but I cannot say for sure what worked best. I was eating yogurt or kefir and sauerkraut or kimchi every single day, along with high fiber foods to keep them happy such as buckwheat, brown rice, steel cut oats, bananas, blueberries, onions, carrots, and raw cabbage

It's actually a pretty good diet if you can avoid overeating

>>19370034
>I took a chance on chicken that was a little funky and it destroyed my gut
lol you didnt cook the chicken or sth?

>>19370424
probably a combination of all those things were good. that's good for you though. i wish i could eat kimchi, but spicy foods are out of the question at the moment. gonna stick with my homemade ginger kefir and lots of berries

>>19370467
mild kimchi is not spicy

>>19370473
i'll look for it. i just want to avoid capsicum all together since i have ulcers

>>19370466
Cooking doesn't always make food safe to eat. Bacteria can leave behind waste products that don't get destroyed by heat and can still make you sick even when fully cooked.

>>19370424
Kefir is boss, that shit worked wonders for me

>>19370466
I did cook it, but perhaps the bacterial load was still too high

I would also like to mention in the previous week I had eaten approximately 3 lbs of raw salmon from the grocery store
I was just eating slices straight from the cutting board

However the chicken was the last meal I have before my stomach was obliterated a few hours later
I was at a wedding too, spent the whole night in the bathroom at the reception

>>19370505
certain bacteria produce toxins
for example, e.coli produces shiga toxin
even if you cooked the food and killed all the bacteria, it would not cook out the toxin

>>19369928
salt is a carb, can't have carbs.

>>19370397
>>19370405
Best way to repopulate your gut is to eat human shit. Raid some athlete's toilet and your gut biome will improve dramatically.

>>19370611
>Best way to repopulate your gut is to eat human shit. Raid some athlete's toilet and your gut biome will improve dramatically
joe rogan please leave

>>19370505
>>19370522
Certain bacteria and poisons can also take days to weeks for symptoms to appear, so it's not necessarily the thing you ate that day or even the thing you ate the day before.

>>19370611
you're joking, but poop transplants are unironically a miracle for some people

>Just like my favourite tiktok manosphere celebrities!

Zoomers are braindead. What about educating yourself about nutrition? Oh that's right, that would take more than 60 seconds

>>19369931
>>19369968
You're a fucking idiot and deserve what you get for asking and not heeding advise. You will experience issues at some point that will take months if not years to recover from. hope you don't need health to do whatever you do for work. Or have a ton of pto to take.

you should only be doing this is you have severe gut inflammation problems you need to temporarily get relief from before slowly and gradually reintroducing foods. eating carnivore pure without some fiber and starch will be harsh on your gut microbiome composition, liver, and kidneys.
that said, using a 6 months maximum isn't too big of a deal compared to going at it for years

>>19370384
it's been shown that some or several can become more autoimmune reactive to non meat foods and certain herbs and spices if their gut bacteria populations hibernate and shrink for too long with no fiber or starch keeping them active. for most cases it's not too difficult to slowly build back up again, but it's not a convenient place to be in to have exaggerated autoimmune responses and feel like shit because some black pepper got sprinkled onto some steak

>>19369901
clogged arteries and asshole cancer

>>19369901
Feel great if you eat fatty steaks

>>19369901
You'll look as weak and lacking in energy as Jordan Peterson looks these days.

>>19370051
>you'll feel incredible
that's called being light headed you retard

You'll develop food intolerances.

>>19372324
Not that anon but genuine consideration: no amount of vegan food, no matter how delicious, like chili sin carne, dahl, chickpea curry, miso soup etc. satisfies me, but if I simply eat two hamburgers with some fresh vegetables I'm satisfied for most of the day. What's your view on that?

>>19370597
who told you that

>>19372356
NTA but I think it means that your body craves a variety of food that comes from different sources and that restricting yourself to one is not good.

this seems like the right thread to ask
should I pull the trigger on this: https://www.dublinjerky.com/kobe-beef-jerky

>>19369901
>what will happen to me If I continue this diet for let's say 6 months?

>>19369901
If you eat it raw or rare you should feel pretty good as long as it's really fatty. It would be better to include a few other things like raw eggs and butter

sv3rige and his consequences have been a disaster for orthorexia

>>19372356
Plants don't have much protein, and it's harder to digest. I think there's also some variation between individuals on how well they digest plants. I read a long time ago that there are some differences in intestinal length between some groups of people. Someone theorized longer intestines indicate better digestion of plants.

I've tried every diet and actually struggle when eating a lot of meat and vegetables. Feels like I'm starving. But I feel great with more fruit and dairy. Everyone is different and you need to do some trial and error to figure out what makes you feel best.

lol all the goyslop pushing tribesmen in this thread freaking the fuck out because the goyim know that eating meat is good for you

>>19369901
>The Maxwell Leadership "Bible".

>>19374054
lol

>>19369901
You'll grow a piece of hair on your chest.

>>19370368
You either drank water too close to/during your meals or you ate too much fat.

>>19369901
U might start puberty

>>19369901
Go for it, but don't skip out on salt. And consider adding eggs to that diet too (if you can tolerate them). Eat liver once a week if you're concerned about vitamin deficiencies.
Eat whenever you feel hungry.
Don't drink water 30 minutes before, after or during your meals. It will give you the runs.
Aim for a 2:1 fat to protein calorie ratio. That's 80:20 ground beef or rib eye. You know you've had too little fat if you get constipated, and too much will give you loose stools.
>what will happen to me If I continue this diet for let's say 6 months?
You'll stop being a goyslop slave, and you'll stop eating for entertainment. If you're fat you'll slim down significally while regaining your natural feeling of hunger and satiety.
t. 8 months into carnivore.

>>19375351
What’s so important about the salt?

>>19375362
you need a regular intake of salt to maintain proper blood pressure and nerve action among other things.

>>19375362
Electrolytes, son. You'll feel like shit without them.

>>19372356
"feeling full" should not be the final outcome of your food habits. proper nutrition is.

>>19369901
it depends on your system because everyone is unique , that's why there is no such thing as a universally perfect diet
follow your excitement and listen to your body

>>19375375
But the meat and eggs?

>>19375368
More salt ok. Il start salting my foods.

>>19375362
It's important for making millions of your red blood cells dehydrate and explode

You guys are disgusting

>>19375400
Found the smelly vegan.

>>19370334
All I'm hearing is that bacon, onions and lemon juice tastes good.

>>19369931
Inuits consume berries in the summer but that does suggest we can go 6 months on steak

>>19369901
you'll btfo libtards

>>19370390
You sound like a real bitch. Have you been taking estrogen pills lately mr bitch tits?

>>19375403
Meat is great, i said you're disgusting.
Also
>smelly
Oh the irony

>>19369901
Rabbit starvation.

>>19370105
Not on carnivore but I want to start eating organs or incorporating them into my diet. Here's the thing though I can't eat this shit by itself. I want to know how to prepare it in a way that won't suck at first. Maybe casseroles or something idk. I also don't want to get vitamin oversaturation because I know eg liver has way more than you need.

I'm honestly thinking of just eating patte for a whole because I love it. Bitch move, I know.

>>19370356
Yes. What are you, a fucking sodomite homo?

>>19375485
Liver, onions and butter. Cook low and slow, and serve with homemade apple sauce.

>>19375485
chicken livers are the most palatable by far.
i make a really good chicken liver ragu, but most organs work well braised with a lot of vegetables in good stock. simmering helps to bring down their harshness.

>>19375389
then again if you're truly eating carnivore you could just substitute blood.

when i ate nothing but red meat i developed a debilitating pain in my testicles which i thought was a hernia but turned out to be some kind of mineral build-up in my balls from all the red meat i was eating. it literally took 2+ years to fully recover and i still feel a little pain if i do too much cardio.

>>19375538
Yeah, problems like that can arise when eating cooked meat.

>>19375544
it wasn't cooked

>>19375546
Organic minerals don't collect in your body like that, so you're either lying or the cause was not your red meat

>>19375548
then explain why a) the doctor told me that it was related to something in my diet (i didn't tell her what i was eating) and b) it started going away after i cut out the red meat. i think i'm going to trust my own experience over some random anon.

>>19375552
I've been eating nothing but beef for months, and my balls feel fine. You sound like a weak cunt.

>>19375556
>for months
cute

>>19375552
If you really had mineral build-up in your testicles from raw red meat, it was probably your body using minerals to alkalize highly acidic toxins stored in the fat of your testicles, similar to gout. Eating purely red meat could lead to overacidity which can make stored toxins more caustic, so most people do better when they include dairy, fish, chicken, etc in their diet

What causes this retardation?
Do people like OP think they are extra manly? Which is extra funny with store bought meat
Do they think this has some health benefits?
Just to spite vegans? Who are just as retarded btw.
Just to spite vegans but political because they are all lefties?
Or is it simply just how dumb kids would only eat sweets if you let them?

>What causes this retardation?
>Do people like OP think they are extra manly? Which is extra funny with store bought meat
>Do they think this has some health benefits?
>Just to spite vegans? Who are just as retarded btw.
>Just to spite vegans but political because they are all lefties?
>Or is it simply just how dumb kids would only eat sweets if you let them?

>>19369901
Malnutrition. If you want to be carnivore, you need to start eating offal.

>>19375397
Cells lyse in a hypo, not hypertonic solution.

>>19369901
Part 1

carnivore here for 6 months now. Meat-Salt-Water, nothing else.

Went on it to heal severe Ulcerative Colitis (got to shitting straight blood 17 times a day even on meds). Was this close to getting the surgery purely to save myself from too much blood loss. Doing better than ever. Off 95% of my meds. Practically symptom free. Brought me back from suicidal thoughts too. Also got rid of my acne (for the most part), dandruff, brain fog, and brought more emotional stability (even compared to when I was healthy).

------FAQ------

Deficiencies?
None, I check my blood every month. Vitamin C requirements are a lot lower on 0 carb diet because glucose (any carb source) has metabolic competition with vitamin C. Vitamin D can be acquired from bone marrow, brain (and fish, if you're open to eating fish on this diet).

Fiber?
Unnecessary to the human body. If it was, myself and many others would have their condition worsen.

Other diets?
Have tried other diets, have tried eliminating things individually - nothing helped nearly as much as this.

"Why don't you just supplement with XYZ? It healed my tummy aches/constipation/IBS"
No gastro issue can actually compare to the severity of crohns/UC

"Have you tried to introduce XYZ yet?"
Won't for 2 years just to make sure I'm healed. Maybe eggs in a few months, we'll see.

Expensive?
Not at all. Macros wise fat should be 65%-85%, which can easily be pork fat or beef fat, and most people just don’t know how to look for and cook cheap+fatty meat. They don't know how to cook or appreciate organs as well.

"I tried carnivore but i kept XYZ and i felt bad"
You didn't try carnivore bro, sorry

"Adaptation phase?"
Most people come from radically different diets so they require an adaptation phase microbiome wise and metabolically too. Usually that can come in the from of temporary gastro issues that resolve in a week. Making sure your fat/protein ratio % wise is around 65-35 all the way to 80-20, resolves that quicker.

>>19376263
part 2

"Bloodwork?"
All good, i check it every month.

"I can't digest that much fat"

We have the evolutionary capability, humans have only started to have access to carbs all year round (not just 2-4 weeks a year through barely digestible berries) in the last several thousand years, compared to us hunting animals for hundreds of thousands of years.

"Side effects?"

Just those initial gastro issues/maybe headaches in the first week. Eventually sports performance comes back to the previous levels too, but that takes a bit longer.

"What about your microbiome diversity?"

The data we have on microbiome diversity is based on what we believe to be normal microbiome diversity.

forgot to mention in my post, but my teeth are permanently clean now. No plaque whatsoever, even when i forget to brush them for 2 days - and even then i don't use toothpaste.
Yes I have a girlfriend.

"Are you saying everyone should go carnivore?"

As much as I believe that overreliance on carbs and plant matter (including vegetable oils) is the main reason that people age faster and fall ill - not necessarily. It’s difficult, and most don’t have the luxury logistics/time wise to make that adaptation - especially with kids around. Still, I think the majority of people making a simple experiment for a month would benefit and learn something about themselves.

"People are different though, some ways of eating do a lot better for some than others!"

Species appropriate nutrition meansa diet that is appropriate for a specific species. In order to thrive, an animal must eat a diet that its species has evolved to eat. When is the last time you heard of two different animals from the same species having different species appropriate nutrition?
_________

AMA

>>19369907
0 medically documented cases of a complete carnivore getting diagnosed with scurvy by a medical professional. All cases that I'm aware of are just people experiencing 1 or 2 random symptoms with dozens of possible causes and then immediately concluding it's scurvy.

"Except for a few weeks in summer... these Indians were as exclusive meat eaters as the Eskimos; Yet these forest Indians, eating at an average meats that we would call medium done, were as free from scurvy as the Eskimos—completely free, except a few who worked for white men, ate their food, and then developed scurvy like the whites." --Vilhjalmur Stefansson, Fat of The Land

>>19376283
>Species appropriate nutrition meansa diet that is appropriate for a specific species. In order to thrive, an animal must eat a diet that its species has evolved to eat. When is the last time you heard of two different animals from the same species having different species appropriate nutrition?
you know humans are omnivores right? most people can eat anything they want and not be shitting our guts out like you were

>>19376263
>Off 95% of my meds
kek it shows

How bout a vegetable guy

>>19376283
>AMA
Doesn't it get boring?
Also, what sorts of things do you drink? Are you gonna tell us unadulterated plant drinks like tea or coffee are a bad idea?

>>19376307
Capability to digest plant matter =/= omnivorous

Horses will sometimes eat baby chickens. Does that mean they're omnivorous?

The reason people are reversing autoimmune conditions and metabolic diseases is because we can tolerate plant matter and sugar when we're healthy, and we do worse with it when we're sick.

also, "most people", according to you, actually seem to be getting reduced in number. Don't try to be a smartass, and look me in my (figurative) eyes when you know that most people are "suddenly" developing more and more allergies/dietary intolerances.
It's not as simple as you'd like to think it is.

You really think my condition came about suddenly? It's damage that I've slowly done to myself with innapropriate goyslop, and I wasn't even eating "american" levels of processed food. Some people get this kind of shit in their 20s, some get this kind of shit in their 40s.

>>19376331
I'll be honest, sometimes it gets a little boring. But eating nose-to-tail and cooking meat in a variety of ways helps alleviate that boredom. There are carnivore diet variations which include avocado, eggs, hard cheeses - I'm only on the strictest version (red meat /only/) because it's the one that's recommended for the severity of my condition. The cravings for other things go away a few weeks after starting the diet, and I think that's in part because of hormone regulation (ghrelin/insulin/leptin), as well as always having my B vitamins at high levels. You never feel tired, unsatisfied, etc after a meal. You don't get that feeling of "ugh i'm hungry again" soon after because your blood sugar is always stable, and that in part affects people's desire to snack.

I only drink water, and sometimes the broth from braised short ribs/veal shank. I personally advise against having coffee, simply because I don't think it's worth being reliant on a stimulant to operate normally, or ruin one's biological clock.
Personally? I'll be introducing back some teas at some point.

>>19369907
>constipation
>vitamin deficiencies
>scurvy
>from eating meat

The vegan propaganda goes deep with this one.

>>19369901
Jaundice

>>19376378
>Capability to digest plant matter =/= omnivorous

>An omnivore (/ˈɒmnJvɔːr/) is an animal that has the ability to eat and survive on both plant and animal matter
>Although cases exist of herbivores eating meat and carnivores eating plant matter, the classification "omnivore" refers to the adaptation and main food source of the species in general, so these exceptions do not make either individual animals or the species as a whole omnivorous

>>19369901
you're going to need salt over the long haul or you'll die. if you take a multivitamin and calcium supplement probably nothing notable. keto can help people cut weight if thats the goal, but you still need to watch calories in vs calories out.

how do I saute meat so that it doesnt become rigid and chewy? It happens more often then I want it to

>>19376476
thanks for pointing that out buddy, let's play by your rules then
the irony is that you're pointing out why i'm right

Humans are hypercarnivores, and we were hypercarnivores for *see my >>19376283 picture above*

>A hypercarnivore is an animal which has a diet that is more than 70% meat, either via active predation or by scavenging. The remaining non-meat diet may consist of non-animal foods such as fungi, fruits or other plant material.

If we were hypercarnivores for hundreds of thousands of years, and then in the last couple of thousand of years we started eating grains in general, plus more fruit and plants - guess what you - that means we introduced plant matter in our diet DESPITE being hypercarnivores.

Don't get stuck in useless semantics and look at anthropological and evolutionary data.

Not only that, but you should really consider again arguing about something you don't know, especially since your stomach acidity is so damn high, since we evolved not only to be carnivores, but partly scavangers as well. Our stomach acidity is so high so we can deal with the potential bacteria from spoiled meat, which is exactly why we have a postprandial inflammatory response.

There is no need to get stuck in these useless semantics when real world data (read: not big pharma jewish shilling) is present and alive.

>guy decides to quit eating nothing but fast food and immediately hops on some weird monk-style ultra restrictive meme diet
What drives this behavior?

>>19376744
It's exciting to try new and novel things

>>19376732

>>19376283 here
You're probably just not using the right cut of meat.
My best advice would be just a general youtube video explaining which cuts/areas benefit from braising/slow smoking/boiling (shank/chuck/shoulder etc) and which best benefit from frying/grilling (liver/skirt/sirloin etc)
The difference is usually simply the amount of connective tissue.
If you happen to be frying a piece of beef, and despite the short cooking time (+ it still having some pink) it's really tough, you're probably just /undercooking/ it, and you're not allowing the collagen to melt, since it needs a lot of time to spend at a certain temperature.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dDafCFtmjA&ab_channel=EthanChlebowski

this should do
his content is well organized

>>19376415
2k calories of steak will leave you pretty damn vitamin deficient. He said he was only eating steak. Complete propaganda.

>>19376739
>this conspiracy level of delusion and he cant even read
What I said isnt pointing out why youre right, its saying that despite you eating only meat youre still an omnivore
what about teeth clearly meant for eating nuts and seeds and grains? and dont give me something from any of these carnivore diet retards online that youre getting all your information from

>>19375552
I wouldn’t listen to a doctor on diet esp a female.

>>19375587
Found the smelly vegan.

>>19376903
I'm having fresh bread with mettwurst right now faggot.

>>19376909
And washing it down with vegan cum I reckon.

>>19376917
Nah, boxed wine

>>19372356
My view is that youre fat and stupid

>>19369901
You'll remain a fucking idiot, for once.

>>19370505
You people are so dumb it's not even funny.
Zero sense of self-preservation.

>>19369901
>If I continue this diet for let's say 6 months?
You need omega oils, various vitamins, other stuff steak alone can't get you. And despite what you may think, it's not really helping your pussy game.

So if you eat ALL the different parts of a cow you'll make it fine? Not just the muscle meat cuts?

cut this meme shit out
eat it raw like a real man

>>19376834
Teeth give clues but dont tell the whole story, the best they can do is tell what recent ancestors were eating

Pandas for example eat their bamboo but are still built like meat eaters
The human mouth changed because we started processing food outside of our bodies before taking it in
Dont need big gnashing teeth when we cut our meat up into small pieces ahead of time
Some wild foraged greens and fruits were definitely eaten but we dont have the gut for a diet heavy in plant matter
Heck even gorillas with a much stronger gut need to send it through twice

>>19377069

i know multiple carnivores that are absolutely fine exclusively on muscle meat
however in my opinion and personal experience, liver is definitely beneficial to cover some blank spots
it is however VERY high in copper and vitamin A, so i'd keep my intake at 300-800g a week
the other organs are NOT necessary, but i do rec them because i think they're just delicious
heart is a very good source of coq10, and you can make delicious beef heart jerky/grilled heart slices, or just slapping it in a slowcooker

lamb hearts and kidneys halved and fried still slightly pink are one of the most delicious things you'll ever have

literally the only organ i haven't tried yet is bull testicles, and i'm looking forward to it

>>19369901
Massive constipation as you dont eat any fiber.

>>19370597

>>19377111
I thought we couldn't digest fiber?

Myself? I got kidney sand from eating too much meat by the virtue of elevated levels of creatinine, which has poisoned my body. Besides, without fiber you'll feel like shit since your gut fauna is responsible for your mood, hormones, etc. You gotta feed it.

There's a lot of confirmation bias for carnivore diets, because people jump from eating garbage all their lives to eating good food (in this case, meat) and are blown away by the positive changes it brings. I suspect it's because people like meat, and are move willing to go for a diet like this as their first choice, as opposed to something that looks like a lot less fun.

I'd suggest adding eggs and leafy greens to any "meat only" diet. I think it would only improve it. Oh, and of course don't forget to eat beef liver.

>>19369901
Gout

Which meats have the best bang for your buck?

It's so funny that after all the diet bullshit the truth is revealed that the only sustainable diet is the plane jane one with with a little bit of grains, little bit of meat, little bit of vegetables, little bit of treats. Kek. What a waste of human effort dieting is.

>>19376263
>Went on it to heal severe Ulcerative Colitis
strange, because studies point toward foods high in sulfur being the cause for this disease. i have UC too and my condition worsens when i eat meats.

>>19376318
Lmfao

>>19378990
it depends how you approach it friend. You can always give me a shout on discord @ Plumpodrome and we can have a call about it.
I've guided other people in similar situations, and regularly talk to others that have already healed it with the carnivore diet

Steak only? Are you world famous Twitch streamer Asmongold by any chance?

>>19379191
No that would be world famous dry age pit master Guga

What's with all the people who can't stand liver on it's own, and I thought I had a sensitive taste. Fried chicken livers and mashed potatoes are one of my favorite foods, it has a super soft texture and I don't know how I'd describe the taste but it seems pretty inoffensive.

>>19379247
Well try beef or pig liver on its own and then open your mouth.

>>19370034
>the beef only diet made me so strong that eating a piece of chicken was a near death experience

Mental illness.

>>19379261
Just eat chicken ones if those are foul? People were talking about not being able to stand liver and organs in general.

>>19373155
it's suspiciously cheap. I don't see why not. It's not like you are gonna ruin your bank account

>>19379274
A spoiled piece of chicken.

>>19379286
Don't get me wrong I like pig and beef liver and eat them like once or twice a month, despite have gotten called a vegan in this thread, since they are simply a good deal and have a unique taste but this is like apples and oranges.

>>19375351
>2:1 fat to protein ratio
>80:20 ground beef

You’re fucking retarded. 80:20 is a 4:1 lean meat to fat ratio. Ribeye wouldn’t have 2:1 fat to protein, either.

>>19375552
You didn’t tell your doctor what you were eating, and you think you got an accurate diagnosis bc you filled in the gap yourself? You’re a functional retard, there’s as much of your opinion in your “diagnosis” as the doctors. Fuckwad

>>19376283
Carnivore only exists because you people are too stupid to figure out what you can and can’t eat on keto. Your body needs fiber. It’s what your gut flora feed on, stupid nigger

>>19376318
Gottem lol

>>19375351
You're so fucking dumb holy shit dude

>>19370100
Shhhhhh, don't tell him

>>19379645
But that's not what I wrote was it?
>Aim for a 2:1 fat to protein C A L O R I E ratio

>>19379670
I feel better now than I have in decades. Lost nearly 50kg, and the weight stays off.

>>19369931
They also eat a fuckton of organ meat and fish, not steak only you terminally online fuck. There are ways to do carnivore but this is not it.

>>19379662
This - keto can be nice but a lot of people online are retards that think it means eating a stick of butter a day and will tell you that bell peppers and lettuce are poison.

>>19379727
>bell peppers and lettuce
I think those are both low carb and would be okay on keto. They'd be more likely to tell you sweet potatoes and bananas are bad for you.

Although in my experience, once someone loses enough weight on keto, they seem to start thinking those bananas and sweet potatoes aren't that bad. And that it's just junk food they need to avoid.

>>19379713
You still think you’re smart, don’t you?

Do the math again, retard. That’s a 2:1 protein to fat calorie ratio, not the other way around. There’s 80% lean meat and 20% fat. Do you think fats are 8x more calorically dense than proteins? Because they’d have to be for your math to work. Nigger

>>19379782
>That’s a 2:1 protein to fat calorie ratio
You're really just being disingenuous on purpose, aren't you?
I wrote: 2:1 FAT to PROTEIN calorie ratio.
1g of fat = 9 calories
1g of protein = 4 calories
23g of fat = 207 calories
19g of protein = 76 calories

>>19379188
thanks, but i don't want to be making any big changes and set off a terrible flare-up. it's very weird that you were able to make it work, because the vast majority of people who say they healed their IBD have said that fixing their microbiome with a plant-based diet was the key. that isn't to say that you should just ban meats outright, but it should not be a thing that you eat daily. it depends on the person maybe.
call me a schizo, but the elites are shutting down all of the meat farms so i think a carnivore diet will eventually become impossible financially for 99.99% of people. switching your body between these diets is such a long process, that i don't want to be caught in a bad situation. farm soil is drying up as well, but at least that will probably last longer than the animal farms

>>19377344
Your body uses fiber to make poop without digesting it. Not digesting it is the point!

>>19380647
Then why are people saying it's a bad thing to eat fiber?

>>19380653
who is telling you it's bad to eat fiber?

>>19380683
It seems to be the point when it's brought up. "Fiber is indigestible". What else would they imply by that?

>>19380704
Indigestible by you, digestible by your gut bacteria. There's two types of fiber, too, soluble and insoluble. Former one is for your gut, latter one is for making better poops. Different foods are good sources of each of those.
t. other anon

"The Diet Placebo" is when people who have been living unhealthy lifestyles suddenly decide to improve their lives and attribute everything to a dietary change instead of the fact that they're just being responsible and taking care of themselves. It's really weird seeing people attribute all sorts of things to diet that are actually improving because they are sleeping, sobering up, and taking showers.

Filthy retarded degens.

>>19369901
>he fell for the meat only diet
Meat only diets isn't just eating nice juicy steaks and glazed ribs and all the other good shit retard. You need nutrients from shit like liver and offal.

>>19369901

you're shit will be black and sticky like nutella or vegemite.

>>19375412
most of them dont. lingon berries are too sour

>>19380815
>You need nutrients from shit like liver and offal.
no organs required

>>19379662
there is no human requirement for fiber

>>19380882
my shit is normal. that might happen if you try to go to eating nothing but meat overnight instead of changing slowly over a few weeks or months

>>19369901
That’s fucking gross and unhealthy.

>>19369907
>if you eat nothing but muscle meat for half a year, it won't be good for you
>>19376415
>fucking vegan!1!!

Why are they like this?

it is possible but you would need to eat organ meats like liver and brain for nutrients

>>19369901
eat blood sausage you dumb fuck, it counts as meat and it's full of vitamins and minerals

>>19376283
Thoughts on honey?

>>19369960
>Can afford steak
>Can't afford a $2 canister of salt
Really? Really? You can't pony up the $2 bucks for basic bitch salt? But can shovel just all the money into beef? Next thing you will tell us is you are cooking the steak in a stock pot because you can't afford a grill or a pan.

People really believe into some fiber/vitamin/mineral related myths

Like people have better poop than anything you create out of pure white rice or bread. Fibres are part of that marketing myth, like "buy this, its high in fibre". Its totally irrelevant to carnivore.

Vitamins similarly, you know who needs supplements the most? Vegans. Their babies grow up sick and malnourished, they have 10 different bottles of supplements to make sure they dont die from their regular diet. You're gonna get the vitamins you need from eating regular old meat, not even necessary to eat liver.


The #1 reason more people dont try the diet out is that meats expensive and it gets boring immediately. You only do it if you have some chronic illness you want to cure via diet.

>>19381403
I wish this place weren't such an echo chamber. A highly diverse diet is so much healthier than a mono diet.

>>19382431
the final redpill is that God designed us to be vegans that get b12 from the bacteria of tubers, protein from the gut flora, and get vitamin D from being naked in the sun

>>19380623
You might be even more dumb than the meat only retards. What is with these conspiracies lmao

>>19382423
Yeah I don't get it either.
>You need fiber to poop!
Meat is 75% water. Most of it is absorbed into your body, and as long as you stay properly hydrated, and eat fat cuts you won't suffer from constipation at all.

>>19382423
>>19382652
And even though I eat two-three pounds of meat per day, I only have to shit every second/third day.

>>19382137
Fried blood sausage with a drizzle of honey or syrup. Fookin' lush!

>>19382597
>What is with these conspiracies lmao
good goy, ignore the chickens being culled because of some made up flu. sound familiar?

>>19380623
i've literally never heard of people experiencing remission med free on a vegan diet. And I mean remission, not "healing"

in comparison, the people I talk to regularly were able to drop all their meds within a year or two, and even the worst possible case scenario - dropping their meds after 3 years

>>19382308
I don't agree with "animal based" diets that still keep fructose in the diet. I tried something like that with the Specific Carbohydrat Diet (removal of all carbs/starches except simple sugars), and my condition still worsened until I made the final changes to go fully Meat-Salt-Water.

I think humans thrive better in a ketogenic state compared to a carb-based metabolism, as my overall psychological state and energy levels are more stable than they were last year, even though I kept my carb sources as "clean" as possible. Rice, potatoes, dark chocolate, berries, bananas, a squirt of raw honey before a workout. Pretty much just that.

>>19382811
>And I mean remission, not "healing"
yes, these people went to no symptoms https://www.highcarbhealth.com/testimonials/
the guys running this are moral vegans which i don't like because they keep away practical information related to animal products, but they have success with getting people into remission regardless.
there's also a guy named Kenny Honnas on youtube that has medical documents to show that he got into clinical remission after eating a probiotic diet of banana and blueberry smoothies. i heard that he changed up his diet recommendations recently and says that a little bit of meat is fine.
anyways, i am not trying to be hostile here. it's just interesting how you beat this disease with an "illogical" diet.
by the way, can you tell me how often you were going to the bathroom? a bad day for me would be like 8-10 bowel movements, but you people that approach 20 bowel movements a day just boggle my mind. did you just decide to do your daily activities on the toilet?

>>19370597
Bzzzt, wrong.

>>19382683
>Oh my god, if they keep culling these chickens, THERE"LL BE NONE LEFT!
*gasps*

>>19383478
i have always been right, so i don't care what you think

>>19382652
>>19382671
Also what about the whole "you have to poop every day!" repeated by doctors all the time? Is it really necessary? Why are they so obsessed with pooping?

>>19369901
Based retard

>>19384864
I've had both vegans and people who eat balanced diets tell me they only poop a couple times a week, so heck if I know.

>>19384804
Youll be dead before meat becomes uneasily accessible to americans. Because i would cold blooded gun you down in the streets. You underestimate how many people are willing to fight for their rights

>>19369901
Based carnivore. Vegans and processed food fat asses get mad.