/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Konichiwa, Dude!

>>19578361
It's because fat-shaming is a good thing in Japan, it has nothing to do with what people eat

How'd you connect your 90s fax machine to the Western internet?

>been living in Japan for 20 years and I've come to the conclusion that America
damn thats crazy i also have a lot of opinions about countries i havent lived in for 20 years

>>19578389
I also lived there for >20 years, duh.

>>19578396
If you think America of 2023 is anything like the America of 2003, buddy...

>>19578361
>quantity you landwhales eat
this
>your total lack of mobility
this
>or else just the stress
not sure about this
I've always heard the average japanese wagie is under tons of stress and expected to work alot of overtime

>>19578414
This
It's the quantities Americans eat
t. Asian

Every time I go to Japan, I lose like 10 lb. Why? I think it's the walking. You just get more exercise there. Also the food seems to be more fresh.

>>19578361
the way that you write its clear that you argue from a point of inferiority
do better, anon

>>19578361
I don't know man. Nordic people consume dairy products all the time, the sauces are cream or sour cream based, eat a ton of carbs like bread and potatoes, eat pastries, cookies and other sugary stuff daily. Not much fried food though.

Yeah I think it comes down to the quantity and the fact people actually walk and exercise a lot.

>>19578361
Even if you eat the same foods in Japan or wherever else it doesn't mean they have the same ingredients
Store-bought American food is just loaded with preservatives and generally stuff you don't actually want to eat but it makes it cheaper or more shelf stable or whatever
Americans do drive everywhere though because the cities are built like shit

>>19578361
damn, it's been a long time since 4chan had a good, old-fashioned weeaboo thread

>>19578361

>>19578361
How much of your adult life did you spend in America?
Willing to bet the majority of your adult life was spent in Japan. Making you a stupid fucking NIP monkey.
Also willing to bet you have no clue the changes we've gone through in the last 20 years.
>opinion: discarded
>thread: hidden
>your penis: small

>>19578411
Delusional take. The American diet has changed, but not /that/ much in the last 20 years.

>>19578361

>>19578754
Spoken like a yuromong
Bet you live in a flat and your city is all scrunched up into a tiny 20km ball

>>19578798
>The American diet has changed, but not /that/ much in the last 20 years.
Fatten up the porkers, Marge, it's time to prepare to slaughter to feed the rich!

Semi related, but Jap food is fucking disgusting and all the good jap food is from somewhere else.
Ramen - Chinese
Gyoza - Chinese
Curry - Indian
Tempura - Portuguese
Tonkatsu - Austrian (via English)
Croquette - French
The historiography suggesting that Kaiseki is even really Japanese is suspect at best. Useless fucking midgets. The only actually Japanese food is boiled millet or something like that.

if an asian gets uppity with me, i whip out my tactical milk jug and try to get him to drink it

>>19579184
Chink ramen is shit though, the nips perfected it. You’re like the reductionist retard that argues a Reuben sandwich “isn’t American” because britcucks had made the toast sandwich a few decades earlier.

...
I've been saying this for years. Having lived in Italy, Switzerland, Singapore and the US, it's quite easy to figure out why Americans are fat and don't live as long: overeating and immobility.
And poor access to healthcare doesn't help.

>>19579298
>poor access to healthcare
Mong.
Americans have amazing access to healthcare.
They just don't take care of themselves.
Arguably if their healthcare was worse, it might induce them to change their eating.
(Or maybe not )

>>19578361
>Nobody is getting diabetes
>5.6% of population in 2019
I'm mostly for your argument though, overeating and lack of exercise are the biggest issues.
>>19578411
Its only got worse and you know it

>>19578456
Only been once but I put on weight. I was overeating though, because I wanted to fit as much in to the time I had. Going again soon too, a bit more mature and with purpose, so I'll probably be more chill with food

>>19579184
now do american food

>>19579476
Sure:
Burgers: America
Spaghetti: America
Mexican food: America
Apples: America
Beef: America
Cocacola: America
Atom Bomb: America
Internet: America
Paper: That's just tree bark. It comes from nature.
Freedom: God

What are the usual sources of trans fats in Japan?

>>19578361
Yeah, theres a lot of issues with us health, but its also worth noting that asian people seem genetically less predisposed to the factors that lead to being obese.

>>19578361
People often complain about world hunger, and shit but I've never gone hungry at all in my life because my family always had food! I think it's all just bullshit! No such thing!

>>19579328
>Americans have amazing access to healthcare.
lol
You actually believe that, don't you? lmao

>>19579501
Everyone has access to good healthcare. Just pay $1,000,000 per visit for a top-end doctor. What, you thought access means "free." Fucking Eurocuck Simulator 2.

>>19579501
If you have a real job that provides insurance yeah you unironically have access to high quality healthcare for not that much money. Only part time dog walkers on reddit without insurance whine about the costs.

>>19579493
trannies and fatties are mostly from the us

>>19579520
This. It’s always funny to me when I see retards complaining about healthcare costs online because they’re just putting themselves as burger flipping Redditors. I’ve lived in multiple countries and US was the best (and cheapest) healthcare I had because I have a real job. Currently living/working in Japan and the healthcare here is shit.

>>19579501
Yeah fucking try it out it just costs money more money the better it gets

Also hospitals cannot legally deny emergency services so even if you're broke they have to treat you for urgent care

In Canada they'll hand you a pamphlet about the benefits of suicide

They cut your organs out while you're still alive, BTW

>>19578361
I've been living in America for 20 years and I've come to the conclusion that Japanese/asians in general are WRONG ABOUT LITERALLY EVERYTHING when it comes to food and health.

>omg you eat sea bugs, drink rotten rice, eat natural rich red bean? iodine is LE BAD!
>omg you eat SUSHI? raw food is LE BAD!
>omg you eat CORN AND MAYO???? western food is LEEE BAAAD!!
>omg you eat mochi and pocari sweat? REE DON'T YOU KNOW IT'S MADE OUT OF MONKEYS???

My family here, and really everyone in this country is fat as fuck as we do not eat nothing but "carbs" every day. My 90 year old grandmother in law eats raw fish every day. We all eat donuts every day. We ALL drink Arnold Palmers or Monsters or soda (pop) or kool-aid every day. We eat burgers loaded with cheese and (GASP!) mayo. Nobody is jumping in front of a subway car. Nobody is getting hikkikomori'd from "anime". Nobody is getting laid. Yet I constantly see Japanese driving themselves into total irrelevance obsessing over what's "ramen" and what's "sushi". TWENTY YEARS I've been watching this and it is my God's honest truth UNDENIABLE conclusion that you're wrong about everything and that the most likely cause of the East is killing itself is celibacy, not what foods they put in their body. The human body is an incredibly wasteful machine that can survive on damn near any anime you throw into it. There's something else killing you all, and it's either simply the quality you nips watch, your total lack of empathy, or else just the malaise and psychic damage you cause yourselves being pedophiles and ignorant of everything all the time.

I will not address any contrary responses to this post. 20 years of closely monitoring 2 cultures outweighs any anon deigning to convince me otherwise with their "but what about this one anime" cartoon "recommendations".

>>19579520
US ranks last in developed nations for both access to healthcare as well as cost of healthcare. Why lie?

>>19579501
Hm
What country are you from?

>>19579646
>he thinks indices aren't manipulated
lol
lmao even

Funfact: just to kick Singapore off the top of the chart, they had to modify the Safest City In The World award to incorporate "environmental safety", where previously only violent crime was taken into consideration, just to find some excuse to stop them from winning every year by default

>>19579688
Oh? How and why were the rankings manipulated to make the US fall to last place, then?

>>19579688
>Safest City In The World award
What's the governing body that hands out this award? What does the winner get? If it's a certificate to Applebee's, I can understand why SG might choose to drop down a peg.

>>19579696
Not that anon.
Probably by including niggers, homeless, and retarded burger flippers into their calculation. Look at healthcare statistics for white full time employees only please. Why would I care about the healthcare treatment of shitskins or other societal dregs? I’m not a nigger or a burger flipper.

I was in Japan for two weeks in April and I lost like eight pounds even though I was drinking like a fish. I went back to the States and lo and behold I put that weight right back on eating a Westoid diet.
I'm sure the fact that I walked everywhere helped but the Japanese also don't load everything they eat with processed shit that spurs your appetite.

>>19578783
yes

>>19578361
>they have bigmacs with 4 patties
>Corn Dog Pizza
>wopper with 3 patties and 6 onion rings on it.
>Hot Dog Pizza
>Burger King's Five Patty Whopper
>Seven Patty Whopper
>Chocolate Ramen
>Ice-Cream Ramen
>Kitkat Sushi
>Horse Meat Ice-cream
>Lotteria 5 shrimp patty burger
>lotterias “With Everything Burger,” the nauseating-looking stack contains lettuce, cabbage, egg, a cheeseburger, more cheese, a rib patty, a fried shrimp patty, a beef patty, pickles and your choice of sauces including ketchup, mayo, and teriyaki sauce. At 1,365 calories

but do go one about how bad American food is...

>>19579739
>At 1,365 calories
This is like half of a full meal for the average Westoid whereas if a Japanese eats this much they regard it as their calories for the day and aren't hungry anymore.

Not everything is nutritition whn it comes to health. Testosterone lowers your lifespan which is why women live longer than men and asians live longer than whites who in turn live longer than blacks.

>>19579646
of course. you can't have freedom win over socialism, so globohomos need to rank it lower. meanwhile america is one of the leaders in developments in healthcare and people are litteraly going there when they cant get treatment in their own state with years on waiting lists. but that's not access because... it just isn't ok

>>19579743
bullshit

>>19579707
>that statistic about americans doesn't count because it includes americans
lol

>>19579753
>source: just trust me, my fellow whiteman

>>19579696
>How
Figure it out
>why
To make themselves look better of course. Don't forget which continent and what systems have most of the decision making in the OECD. Of course they'd suck their own dicks, it's just another bit of circus that they can point to so their citizens don't feel bad about the slowly deteriorating state of Europe.

Pay no attention to the fact that most Europeans have had stagnant wages in the face of rising inflation for the past 15 years or so. Or that the average American can indeed afford healthcare AND higher take home over the average European, because of the benefits of its competitive economic policies.

Remember, every policy has its pros and cons, its tradeoffs. This is Management 101.

>>19579704
The Economist.
Winner gets bragging rights.
It's just one example of criteria manipulation.
Even the OECD's indices are.... odd to say the least.
"Happiness index" is the most egregious of the lot. OBVIOUSLY the population that gets the most free shit and works the least are the happiest. Nobody is more happy than a trust fundie, or socialite heiress, or a fucking five year old kid. Doesn't mean we should make economic policy on the basis of the "Happiness Index".

>>19578754
Japan allows more additives than any other country in the world you fucking retard. They're literally over there eating like 10 grams of salt a day, cooking everything in seed oils and stuffing as many preservatives/additives/pesticides as humanly possible into their food.

>>19578798
>The American diet
No such thing. We have every kind of food on earth available year round at every single supermarket at affordable prices. You can eat burgers and fries exclusively, you can eat lentils and rice exclusively. Most prefer to mix it up though and eat a different country’s cuisine every day. You can visit the entire world and not leave Iowa. It’s not 1978 anymore gramps, time to hang up the denim jacket and give your Bad Company collection to Goodwill.

>>19578798
Move back to America and tell me what you recognize, faggot

>>19579876
>We have every kind of food on earth available year round at every single supermarket at affordable prices.
I've never seen medlars, gooseberries, cornels, currants, lovage, mountain celery/red celery, saltwort, salsify, quince, fresh chickpeas, corbezzolo or cardoon in any American supermarket at any price, never mind in Iowa.

>>19578414
Oh yeah, its quantity. Anyone can do side-to-side videos of American portions and Japanese portions and see how calorie dense American portions are in comparisons. Mukbangs even prove this point.

Plus Japan is more walking & public transit centric compared to America were we are car centric.

Japanese work stress is through the roof though, fucking absurd what they do over there. They don't have suicide forests and death by overwork terms for zero reasons. The work culture is crazy: don't leave until after the boss, forced work "parties", forced unpaid overtime, "black" companies that are basically slavers, they even do silly corporate shit that makes Walmart types blush in embarrassment.

>>19578361
Please stop posting you mega schizo

>>19579916
>kind

>>19580069
I've tried a lot of donburis but have never been able to finish the whole thing unless I have skipped breakfast that day. Are western donburis bigger than japanese ones?

>>19579753
If globohomo wants socialism so bad please explain why the feds put socialists/commies on watchlists and the ruling class spends so much time and energy trying to bust unions?
It’s because capitalism benefits the rich you fucking smoothbrain. The time period when we had the most unfettered capitalism, the gilded age, created the highest concentration of wealth in the upper class. This is an incredibly simple thing to understand, but you stupid marks have somehow let mr. goldstein convince you that the bad guys really want to redistribute their wealth (lmao) and the system that made him rich is actually good for you too.

>>19580629
Because you fell for the puppet show.
Socialism benefits the oligarchs. Just look at Europe. Do you think they have greater turnover in the commercial sector than the USA? Do you think they have oodles of competition? What new corporations have risen up and overthrown the old?

Here's an exercise that may be simple enough for your pea brain. Take any developed European economy, list its top 20 companies by market value, and compute the average age of the companies. Do the same for the USA. Then tell me which is the monopolistic system.

>>19578361
>omg you eat butter, drink whole milk, eat natural rich fatty ice cream? saturated fats are LE BAD!
>>omg you eat RICE? carbs are LE BAD!
People haven't thought this for more than a decade you out of touch retard

>>19578361
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19795421/
>Approximately 13.5% of the Japanese population now has either type 2 diabetes or impaired glucose tolerance

>diet :/
>diet but Japanese :O

>>19580791
Ah yes, the infallible NIH. Taken your fauci ouchie yet?

>>19580090
>no argument
Got under your skin huh?

>>19578361
>I've been living in Japan for 20 years
>we do not eat nothing but "fish"

I can tell.
This fantasy that obesity, heart disease, and diabetes don't exist in Japan is frankly ridiculous, furthering my suspicions that you've never even been there, never mind live there.

It's a particular cohort of basically every population on the planet that these diet-predicated health issues plague, I don't mean to dismiss your argument, but you sound like a fucking weeb faggot

I doubt you understand the "datasets" you claim to have analyzed (being none at all) you charlatan

>>19578361
The funny thing is that you foreign cunts really think that us Americans give two shits about what you think. I'll let you into a secret here, we really don't two flying fucks about you or what you think about us. Get over yourselves.

>>19578361
What I’ve learned by doing a fat elimination diet is that it’s impossible to do it and not lose weight unless you have the palate of a small child. Too much sugar without oil is cloying and makes you feel sick very quickly.

>>19580811
>Oh I see I struck a nerve
>got under your skin, huh
Absolutely no one in your life likes you. You little shuts are all the same.
I'm not even that anon but I'm sick of you twats

>>19580857
Hey anon go for broke, clearly you need some devil dogs and twinkies.

>>19580863
Would love to but can’t, my stomach is very fucked hence the diet. I actually don’t want to lose weight because my BMI is only 20.

>>19580857
>>19580873
Why are you eliminating fat, instead of substituting it with healthy fats such as tallow, salmon oil, and avocado?

>>19580877
Too much fat of any type gives me heartburn. I’m not an anti-fat crusader but I find it hard to believe anyone could fail to lose weight on this diet.

>>19579501
People who spout this are completely ignorant of what healthcare is like outside the US.

If you have a job that provides insurance, America has the absolute best preventative healthcare in the world. We have the ability to switch doctors until we find one that we like. Some doctors are shit, but others really do take the time to ask you about your life/lifestyle, stress, diet, exercise, relationships, family history - anything that could impact your health down the line.

Most socialized medicine only focuses on treating issues as they come up. My doctor focuses on making sure my nutrition, exercise, and stress are managed to prevent any future issues. She's available literally 24/7 and I can email her any time with any questions and she gets back to all of her patients after hours. Good luck doing that in any country outside the US that doesn't offer a private insurance option.

>>19578361
>I've been living in Japan for 20 years and I've come to the conclusion that Americans/westerners in general are WRONG ABOUT LITERALLY EVERYTHING when it comes to food and health.
Interesting, for me that conclusion took 1 second after seeing a group of am*ricans at an airport

>>19580878
>Too much fat of any type gives me heartburn
You're right, your stomach's kinda fucked
welp, like me you have no choice, you can't dirty bulk, so stuff in the proteins and carbs friendo
>t. bmi 21

>>19580886
this is genuinely such a funny post. "sure insurance is 15% of my income but i can email my doctor unlike you damn communists"

americans live in a constant state of trying to find excuses
>no it's seed oils!
>no it's carbs!
>no it's sugar substitutes!
>no it's the fluoride in the water!
>no it's THE WRONG COLOR EGGS
no it's you, you are the the reason you're a fat piece of shit, it's your fault. it's not the food industry or the vaccine or 5G, you're the common factor here.

>>19578361
Everyone deep down knows its actually about portion sizes and calorie intake but the retards like vegans, fast food fats, ketofags and other idiots on this board don't want to admit it
Japan eats 2700 calories per day
The USA eats 3800 per day
https://ourworldindata.org/diet-compositions

>>19580932
Nope. All collected data is wrong and part of wordwide conspiracy to make america look bad

>>19580929
>sure insurance is 15% of my income
How much of your income is taken in taxes to pay the bureaucrats managing your socialist healthcare? Or are you just a leech on society?

>>19580886
thats a lot of paragraphs for something i get outside of the US as well
t. Germanistani

dunning-kruger: the thread

Could also be genetics. You would have to look at Asian diaspora to compare.

>>19578361

>>19578361
>Japanese people
>not stressed
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Excuse me.
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!