/ck/ - Food & Cooking

There is but one YouTube chef that I follow. Unfortunately he hasn’t posted anything on that channel in a while

We only like Ja/ck/

Not all of them are hated, people like food wishes. Some of them are confirmed to post here and are probably shilling themselves instead of buying an ad like Adam Ragusea and Kenji.

>>20069277
>Why are YouTube chefs so hated on this board?
simple answer: this site hates literally anyone that does something with their lives. it reminds them of their own shortcomings and failures

>>20069306
also for me, it's cooking with dave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYwvfxWF460

>>20069306
Sounds kinda sociopathic honestly

>>20069277
natural aversion to ecelebs.
the only acceptable youtube chefs on this board are:
chef john
chef jean pierre

all others will bring threats of violence to a food and cooking board.

bonus:
MrT - not really cooking but a chef at some slop restaurant in london that films himself making goyslop

>>20069306
>talking about "this site" in the third person
>immediately shows a fundamental misunderstanding of this place you are apparently a part of
Go back, anyone coming here post-2015 should be banned. You've obviously been here less than a few years at best

>>20069352
>no cogent rebuttal, just seething
concession accepted

>>20069352
gg OP, you summoned a newfag

>>20069277
>starts working in his family's Chinese restaurant when he was 8
>starts a YouTube channel
>teaches you how to make every American Chinese food dish
>gives away a $50 Amazon gift card
>leaves

>>20069277
lurk moar before wasting a thread you fucking retard

>>20069499
>Spamming insults instead of answering my question.
Yes, you're doing so much more for the board than me. A+ job.

Chef John’s well looked-upon, there was some middle aged Turkish lady that pops up ever so often

>>20069277
they are too cheap to buy an ad.

>>20069277
we love chef john and cowboy kent rollins

>>20070631
You love looking at dudes buttholes

>>20069925
This but I love those no commentary POV cooking shorts that pop up in my recommendations

>is somehow extremely racist and misogynistic but gets away with it because hes asian

>>20069287
This

>>20069277
Because most of them are insufferable faggots.

Bumping for muh based and approved quebecnugga chef michel dumas
>supernickel

>>20069330
add marco pierre white
he shits on Ramsay so he's /ck/core

>>20069277
most channels are just constantly regurgitated beginner advice for amateur cooks not looking to actually improve

>>20070643
Would you even call him a cook? He cooked like one thing and the other videos are just him looming over the person actually cooking and spouting things like he's going to explode if he doesn't

>>20069330
forgot about bruno albouze, cookinginrussia (rip) and wan gang

>>20070643
He had one good video and didn't need to turn it into anything else. It's so funny though having lived in Asia and pretty much everything he says only applies to Asian Americans.

If you go back to pre-2016 there was no problem with youtube threads because people (for the most part) only talked about channels that were all about the food and cooking. Nobody posted Jack (Joey actually preceded Jack; that's when things started going downhill), nobody posted fucking Ramsay garbage, and nobody just blatantly shilled and posted "hurr durr, it's up!" with a YT link and thumbnail. These days it's all about the personalities, not the cooking. It's the worst thing that's ever happened to the board, and it all comes from the redditors who filtered through boards like /pol/ and /tv/.

>>20069526
>ask stupid question
>get stupid answer

Lurk moar, just lurk the fuck moar

>>20071321
newfriend doesn't remember the incel rage threads about rosanna panties girl

>>20071250
>>20071263
>getting mad over a comedy act
lmfao
is your tiny white pecker mad when he calls you out for being scared of spice?

>>20071346
I've been on /ck/ as long as she's had a channel and no, I don't remember her ever being regularly posted on /ck/.

People hate on YT chefs because they seem to have some delusion that it's this board's constant pizza and mountain dew threads are a more valuable resource.

There are a few really great cooking channels on YT. I'll list a few that I keep up with,

Chill stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/@cnliziqi
https://www.youtube.com/@peacefulcuisine

Bartender stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/@howtodrink

Full episode Ramsay shit:
https://www.youtube.com/@AllInTheKitchen

>>20071374
>some delusion that it's this board's constant pizza and mountain dew threads are a more valuable resource
This right here is were most of my hatred for YT shit comes from. There's this bizarre idea among newfags that this board is exclusively a cooking board, and they hate any thread about food that isn't actual cooking. Except they don't cook, and typically can't cook; they watch YT videos in place of cooking, and if they do post their cooking they unironically get mad at any discussion about technique - even if it's constructive criticism. These people don't actually want to talk about food and cooking. They want to larp as "I can do it better than any restaurant" home cooks while in reality they can't, but they've seen someone do it on YT and don't understand that's not real life, and what they really come here for is entertainment and food porn. It's this bizarre self-righteousness when they contribute absolutely nothing and seethe at the thought of anyone taking an active part in creating original content here.
>projection
Nah. I've seen you and your kind post this exact same line constantly over the last few years.

>>20071430
There's room for all kinds of content on the board. But when it comes down to it, all boards are loaded with shitposters that want to rage at everything. That's kind of the nature of an anonymous board. We have a few good people that post cook alongs.

I come here for both. But yesterday, I counted them. 10 active threads about pizza. Not a single one about making pizza. The content gets stale. At least people discussing techniques seen on YT, or debating kitchen tools has some value. I've been working in kitchens for over 25 years.

I appreciate shitposting threads. They're why I come here. But I'm more likely to get involved in a discussion about cooking. They're the tabs that get left open. There is absolutely room for both. All I was trying to say is that there is no reason at all to hate on YT threads.

>>20071462
>people discussing techniques seen on YT
This never happens. I've had hundreds of great discussions about technique in literal Taco Bell threads, and can count the number of times I've seen anything interesting come out of a YT thread on one hand.

>>20069277
Because lot of them are attention whores and are not nearly as skilled as they think
Especially Babish and Ragusea

>>20069352
>acting superior over wasting your time on 4chan
I been here a year before your random cutoff date and I still find that mentality dumb as hell. Waving your 4chan seniority around always looks so sad

>>20069287
>>20069330
You forgot Ordinary Sausage

>>20069277
>Why are YouTube chefs so hated on this board?
first, most aren't chefs.

second contrarian tards on 4chan hate anything or anyone doing better than they are.

Some of the channels I frequent are rightly deserving of some hate. Like Chef James Makinson. His popular stuff is all reaction videos to bad cooking vids. There's no real value added. He does however at least talk about how to improve on what is seen in the video. His actual tutorial content is great, but the view counts are depressingly low. I can see why he does far less of them these days. It's a lot of effort for far fewer views.

>>20069330
>chef john
who?
>chef jean pierre
and also who?

>>20071531
lurk more

>>20071374
>https://www.youtube.com/@howtodrink
literally every video is 5 minutes of content with 25 minutes of filler and a clickbait title. it's a perfect example of why people hate self-important YouTube personalities.

>>20071533
I've been here longer than you. just because a name is mentioned here doesn't mean I stampede over to youtube and subscribe to some nobody.

This is one of the most autistic board on here. Sometimes Im convinced it’s just the same group of about 30 spergs who’ve been keeping it going for years.

>>20071512
>waving your 4chan seniority around always looks so sad
This was true a decade ago, when talking about being an oldfag was always a sure sign that somebody had been here for a few weeks at best. These days you can pretty reliably suss out the newfags just by seeing who gets triggered at the mention of 2016 or "election tourists". The most ironic part is that it happened right when the term "reddit" was just about losing all meaning - and then the site got flooded with literal redditors.

>>20071550
Chef John has been making videos for over 15 years

>>20071550
I hate YT garbage, but Chef John is the most consistently respected and recommended youtube guy on /ck/ going back at least a decade. It's literally not possible for you to have been here any decent amount of time without knowing who that is. I'm not even recommending you go watch him. I have some major issues with a lot of his videos. But of fucking course I know who he is because I've actually been here longer than you.

>>20071541
Some videos are like that. Sure. But not all. His videos on making syrups, or on essential barware are quite good. I mean, any channel that wants to make money is going to ham it up in most of their videos. It's what gets views. You just ignore the videos that don't look like they'll be useful to you. Like I certainly didn't give a shit about making drinks created by ChatGPT, so I simply didn't watch it.

>>20071590
>You just ignore the videos that don't look like they'll be useful to you.
ok, so I'll ignore the entire channel. Do you see where this is going? Are you starting to understand why people dislike algorithm-chasing narcissists?

>>20069277
Can I turn this back to you? Who are some YouTube chefs you like, and what do you get out of watching their videos?

>>20069855
>middle aged Turkish lady
Ayshenur Altan from Turkish food and travel?

>>20071605
Dictionaries must suck for you. All this shit you don't need. Most creators make playlists of their tutorial focused videos. It's 2 clicks to find it. If you are going to YT, and expecting to find any regularly updated channel that isn't chasing the algorithm, you're going to be disappointed. You can choose to be upset about this, or simply appreciate the content they make that is tutorial focused.

>>20071462
>But yesterday, I counted them. 10 active threads about pizza. Not a single one about making pizza. The content gets stale
And this is all I see every time I open the catalog these days. This isn't even that bad, but the board is 90% bot posts during non-American hours, so whatever... In any case, we have constant homemade pizza threads, and they are ALWAYS stale. Either it's one of the same handful of anons who make the exact same, kind of mediocre pizza (and then get mad at any criticism and will just call everyone jealous for not shelling out $800 on a pizza oven, or it's just a generic "gib me ur best pizza dough recipe nao!" threads which always go nowhere because of fucking course.

>>20071696
I've never seen so many people fuck up pizza to the point that frozen pizza looks appetizing in comparison kek

>>20071710
Pic related is from 8 or 9 years ago and generated far more interesting content than any homemade pizza thread we've had in the last year.

>>20071696
Clearly we have different taste in threads. Which comes back to, "Both are fine". This is all coming from my original statement that most people on this board post about pizza and soda. My gripe about 10 threads about pizza is more raging about people not checking the catalog before starting a thread than the threads themselves.

>>20071765
>we have different taste in threads
>both are fine
If you participate in any of the threads in that image you should probably just kill yourself. (This one excluded; as a meta thread I expected this to be deleted an hour ago, but then again, all the nu-jannies are YT simps).

>>20071799

>>20071838
This isn't like I'm eating a ham sandwich and calling you a fag because you're having a turkey sandwich. You're eating a literal shit sandwich, and I'm stuck sitting next to you on the bus.

>>20071739
it sucks that this picture isnt posted as often, always served as a reminder to order the occasional chovie za

>>20071617
Well the main one I watch(ed?) was Babish because he had a cool concept. I stopped watching as much because Alvin and the others are just terrible as hosts.
I also tend to watch You Suck at Cooking and Adam Ragusa but not nearly as often.
I used to be a big fan of the "But Better" series [I forget the guys YT name] but for some reason I just stopped being interested in it.
The episode he got curb-stomped by Crumbl was pretty funny though.

>>20071901
>i watch cancer, cancer, and cancer
>i also used to watch cancer, but then i lost interest
You are everything wrong with /ck/ and the reason nobody here cooks or has any fucking clue what they're talking about anymore.

>>20071949
>I'm going to say these things are awful but not elaborate in any way why, defeating the entire purpose of the thread.
I sure do love 4chan edgelords.

>>20070643
Who is this?

>>20071696
Oh shid I put 2 as in my thread title

>>20071949
Seethe

>>20071696
Yet the expensive pizza oven makes pizza better than a home oven and your point boils down to it's too expensive to consider for me therefore everyone else is the same.

>>20072133
No, actually the point was that *despite* buying an expensive pizza oven they still suck at making pizza because they don't know what they're doing (often because they get all their information from youtube clickbait).

>>20072163
Personally I get all my pizza making info for from pizzamaking.com, far better than YouTube for that, although I do want pizza stretching on YouTube, but that primarily takes practice.

>>20072180
>but that primarily takes practice
Well you're one of the rare ones. Most YT shills are the same people who think that cooking is just a matter of following simple directions and doesn't require any skill. That's why they watch one video and then claim they can make the dish in that video even though they never actually cook and usually just talk about the youtubers personality and don't give a shit about the food.

>>20071514
ordinary sausage fucking sucks. are you actually retarded? do you really think that shit is a good idea?

>>20069277
nigga...Chef Pierre is the king of /ck/

>>20069277
>YouTube chefs
I highly doubt any of these people are actual chefs though
you can just call yourself that without any verfication

your better off watching someone that is self taught
restaurant food tastes like shit because they learn it wrong

https://www.gutefrage.net/d/frage/warum-schuettet-frank-rosin-in-jedes-essen-rotwein-2

>>20072197
All things take practice, I used to post my efforts to learn making various French cakes or pastry here years ago and people just bitched and moaned about how hard it would be to do themselves.
I used to also post pizza threads about how to do everything but once again people bitch and moan about effort or money to be spent on materials/cooking devices.
So I stopped, why post things if no one has anything to say other than complaints, most of which aren't even directed at the food.
Honestly this place is more bitter and needlessly combative than ever before in the past and it shows in the vastly decreased posting quality.

>>20072244
what I forgot to say and to add onto that the average restaurant enjoyer is a fucking moron
you could serve them dead rat stew from rats you found in the kitchen cellar and they think it's a 5 star meal if it looks fancy enough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_4Yca96YeQ

>>20072253
>people just bitched and moaned about how hard it would be to do themselves
This is the other main problem with these youtube home cooks. On the one hand, they think cooking is really easy and they can make better food than a professional after watching a video or two (literally the post above you), while on the other hand they HATE when anyone posts any OC that they think is too complicated for them to pull off themselves. People lose their shit over the most basic bitch stew, and then they'll get mad if you make basic suggestions on how to build flavors like sweating the aromatics and caramelizing the tomato paste, and will scream that "IT'S JUST COMFY STEW IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLICATED IT WAS REALLY GOOD STOP BEING MEAN!" (To be honest, though, I think most people just find baking kind of boring.)

>>20072280
>too complicated
It's too bad really that people feel that way, they will forever hold themselves back with that attitude.

>>20072200
Which other youtbe cooks try making innovations like pizza soup, lasagna sausage and pasta boiled in pickle juice?

>>20072311
Anon, two thirds of /ck/ doesn't care about cooking and is actively hostile towards it. Probably half the board comes directly from /fit/ and /pol/, and views food solely as fuel, and would just take a pill twice a day if it would fulfill their nutritional "requirements". People act like this is normal across 4chcan, but I don't know of any board that hates its subject matter as much as /ck/.

>>20069277
almost all of them are frauds, just trying to shill merch
I only watch chef john

>>20071550
>chef john
>nobody
remove yourself from life

>>20071550
fuck off adam

>>20072311
Oh man I can't get those to come out right. You got a recipe?

>>20072782
Do you use copper molds and a mix of 50/50 beeswax and clarified butter to grease the molds with?

>>20072828
Yeah they rise over the top then shrink and the bottoms don't brown and they come out small

>>20072436
The /fit/ and /pol/ people on /ck/ are more likely to be about self-sufficiency and independence in the kitchen
Well, maybe not /fit/

>>20072836
Add less batter, keep the molds in the fridge before you fill them with the batter, bake at a higher temp, put a pizza steel or stone under the pan that holds the molds.
Idk about your recipe but I use a chefsteps recipe that doesn't use egg whites and I seem to have good luck with it.

>>20072851
>more likely to be about self-sufficiency and independence in the kitchen
These words don't mean anything. This is typical libertarian drivel. You string together a bunch of words that nobody thinks are bad in general, but you don't say anything specific so it's unclear what you're even saying or who you're arguing against.

>>20072870
Also rest your batter for at least 24h ideally 48h before baking them.

>>20072870
I use a steel but room temp molds I'll try less next time. They still taste good and I'm using the recipe from the Ferrandi book.

>>20072905
I melt the beeswax mixture, fill the molds to the top with it, pour it out, and invert the mold on a plate then put them in the fridge for 20 min or a little longer until they are totally cooled and the grease has hardened.
Then I fill the molds to around 1/3 of an inch from the top then bake them off.
You can carefully pop one out to peek at the bottom at the end of baking, as long as you don't invert the mold to remove the test canele you can return it to the mold to continue baking if you have cul blanc.

>>20072915
Thanks bro I'll give that all a shot this weekend

>>20072918
Good luck, I'll be baking a batch of 18 this weekend myself for the first time in 4 years.

Most of them fucking suck and aren't even really chefs. This kid actually worked in a Michelin starred kitchen. Naturally, he has no audience. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-TGVRwmfXs

>>20072851
>/pol/ people on /ck/
>self-sufficiency
Maybe if your definition means bitching endlessly about seed oils spamming the word goyslop and crying about soy milk

Any AS fans here?

>>20069283
thats clearly just a tech channel guy that likes to stuff sandwiches in his gullet
look at those abysmal combinations

>>20069330
fuck you chef john you talked regular before you got famous

YouTube is cancer

>>20069498
he died in a car crash in 2019

the most aggravating youtube chef is joshua weismann. he is clearly a great chef and could be good like jean pierre but his videos are so insufferably edited and made that he's completely unwatchable. i wonder if he has any sense of shame about his content.

>>20069277
>Why are YouTube chefs so hated on this board?
Because /ck/ hates cooking. /ck/ is dedicated to ordering and eating of fast food. YT cooks are a reminder that /ck/ can't cook, can't get a date, can't get a single good thing going in their life.

>>20074008
Well after all, you're the great big castle of me raping your asshole

>>20069293
i cant stand the way chef john from food wishes dot com talks, its so fucking annoying.

>>20073997
That is LGR you disrespectful knob

>>20071216
very based, you can probably follow him without speaking french too.
>on enlève

>>20069277
Papercuts777 aka The Drunk Chef was my go to. I've been coming here since before the BA meltdown and that whole fiasco. BA content used to be popular on here years ago; Claire threads, Brad threads, Sola hate threads, you name it. Also, though not related, I used to really enjoyed the depressing alcoholism threads. It was like an AA meeting on /ck. Jannies ruin everything they touch.

>>20072905
>>20072915
Thanks guys, you inspired me to start baking again. Good luck on your caneles.

>>20071739
Gotta have tomatoes and black olives when getting chovies. Truly those ingredients sing together.

>>20074351
Holy shit, dude, Read the thread before posting. At least skim the thread and read the room. YOUTUBE IS LITERALLY THE OPPOSITE OF COOKING. YOUTUBE IS THE CANCER THAT HAS KILLED /CK/. You'll get more out of a single TB anon thread than you will out of a thousand Ragusa, Babish, Ramsay, or Wiens threads. E-celeb garbage is where food and cooking goes to die.

>>20074746
>BA content used to be popular on here years ago
First of all, that wasn't "years ago". That was very recent... Secondly, that was the most blatant case of paid advertising we've ever seen on this board. That shit wasn't popular. The core base of /ck/ hated it. It was a literal bot post based on the exact same template made every other day, 5 minutes after a new video came out, even if the last 2 threads were still up. AND THE MODS NEVER DELETED ANY OF THEM. BA threads and the cat blog was probably the lowest point /ck/ has ever seen, and it's never going to recover from the damage that took place over that year and a half.

>>20069498
based. who?

>>20071229
This.

>>20073960
Love him. Makes most recipes seem super approachable and easy, and his food challenges basically led me to cooking like "ok, this should probably work" and not actually following any kind of specific recipe in particular and making something work out without following strict guidelines has a weird kind of charm.

>>20071696
>the board is 90% bot posts during non-American hours
dumb fucking schizo, your opinion on board quality is worthless

>>20071550
>not a newfag to /ck/
>doesn't know chef john
just stop

>>20069498
this reminds me. the best chinese I've ever had was this random shithole in a random suburban strip mall ran by a family. dad is the cook, mom serving and working the phone. son helping out on weekends. they made everything from scratch, amazing sauces on their dishes. they put a lot of effort into their food and it was ridiculously cheap. went there for years I hope its still there

>>20074942
The Art of Cooking.

>>20069526
Nigger.