/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Jamie Oliver is an excellent chef, can run restaurants that don't go bankrupt, and hasn't created an entire media persona around shouting at people.

Gordon Ramsay's schtick got old for me about two years ago.

>I hear he's doing a show where he shouts at people in hotels now!
>what the fuck does he know about hotels?

Gordon.
I guess I just see him more on TV and youtube and whatnot.

i like that jamie is actually trying to get people to cook for themselves again. he isn´t about recipes and i wouldn´t really cook any of his one to one.

>>3859675
>pretty much else
u wot m8y?

Jamie.
Hard to explain, I just love his energy.

Gordon is ok, he has some good videos outside of shouting at people. But still, I like Jamie.
Jamie in the garden series just got me really good.
Olive oil?

>>3859680
This. I don't know why this summer he is on TV so much and all at the same time. I only really like Master Chef. Other than that, I don't watch his other shows.

Alton Brown

Jaimie Oliver just seems like a cool guy, and the patience he displayed with that redneck lunch lady was amazing.

I used to really like watching Gordon on the F Word and the BBC Kitchen Nightmares. He is too over the top in his US shows, I much preferred his no nonsense attitude to the screaming/plate throwing. Also the way he cooked/interacted with his kids while raising their own meat was really cool.

>>3859721


This. Although I don't like the whole concept of the celebrity rock star chef, I do admire Alton Brown.

>>3859744
I like him because he doesn't really play to that whole "celebrity rock star chef" thing. It's not like he has 8 different shows like some other TV chefs.

He doesn't just teach recipes. He teaches cooking. He's just a clever guy who like to make good food. He brings comedy to the kitchen instead of drama. Hell, the whole reason he got into the business in the first place was because he thought all the cooking shows on TV were shit.

Jamie oliveoil is a bro and has genuine passion for the food that just seems to explode out of him somehow. Whenever I watch his shows I find myself wanting to build some crazy pizza oven in my back yard and cooking for the entire neighborhood or something like that.

Gordon is cool but I feel like his shows are less about cooking and more about shouting. Jamie stayed true to his roots but Gordon strayed from the path of a cook and onto the path of an actor or something similar.

Just my opinion though.

>>3859749
There is a vid somewhere on youporn, where it shows how Jamie dumps like a bottle of olive oil in one pizza over the course of cooking.
...
Olive oil?

Jamie is cool as fuck and it feels like he never tried to be the best. He just does his thing and I who wouldn't want to hang out with him? He'd be a genuine bro.

Gordon is probably the better chef over all, but he also tries to be. I'm certain it's media portraying him as such, and he gets great deals for the cash, but he's become somewhat of an oracle of cooking, something I'm not sure he can be. The man needs a break and do a regular cooking show in his kitchen.

He'll also never be as badass as Per motherfucking Morberg.

Gordon

not sure about jamie but I'm a former Gordon fan. His british shows the F Word, Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares and plenty of his youtube recipes were excellent and inspired me to make better food for myself and others.

Now he rakes in money shouting and intimidating people on the Fox network doing reality tv shows and fucking hotels for some reason. I don't blame him if he's being paid up the rear but my, how the mighty have fallen.

Go back to cooking Gordon.

>>3859675
But Jamie uses metal utensils on Teflon.

>>3859684
I agree. It's obvious that Jaime has a love for cooking and I do watch his show from time to time but never for his recipes.

Gordon's shtick is very old but his vids from his British shows are pretty good (eg. F-Word). He is an accomplished chef with talent but I don't care for his newer shit.

Alton Brown is a pompous, arrogant, & intelligent, asshole. As a side topic, which chef is your favorite to watch/learn from? Here recently, the venerable Pepiń. Damn he's good.

>>3859843
How do you pronounce an n with an acute accent?

>>3859843
Chef John.
Hit him up on youtube. He recipes are piss easy and he cracks some good jokes while at it. The best part though he never shows he face, just cooking.

>>3859863
>he never shows he face

>>3859851
oh damn, sorry.

It's Pépin.

>he never shows he face

I don't like drinking olive oil or shouting, so I'll go with a bullet in my head instead.

Jamie Oliver by far. Just look at how he makes food.
You see the love and art he does, I swear it goes through TV

A vegetarian friend told me

"If Jamie Oliver made food, I'd eat meat instantly"

Add to that that he is a suave businessman...
no contest

They're both hacks.

They're both awful.

jamioe oliver

but none of them really inspire me.
Some of oliver's recipes have worked for me... and i prefer to watch oliver bumbling about in morroco than watch ramsay have demi-tantrums about fuck all

Picking between two brit "chefs" is like picking your favorite between cancer and AIDS.

>>3859863
yeah he's pretty good.

>>3859871
>>3859873

http://youtu.be/dZFxWaOvsCI

>>3859675
>You should judge not only cooking skills, but their characters, appearances and pretty much else.

Gordon, Gordon, a million times Gordon.

Fuck that cockney cuntflap

Keith Floyd > Rick Stein > Michel Roux Jr > Raymond Blanc > Gordon Ramsay > Jamie Oliver > all the rest > Anthony Worrall Thompson

>>3859909
This nigga gets it

They are both prime examples of the typical effeminate brit. Gordo less so, So I have to pick him.

>>3859909
Rick Stein. Just watched one of his vids he seems pretty good.

A simple Pecorino cheese & pancetta spaghetti carbonara.

http://youtu.be/t1cUwX4Xzt0

>>3859929
I don't browse /ck/ so I've never watched this Jamie Oliver guy, but how in the flying fuck is Gordon Ramsay at all effeminate?

>>3859961
he's like a menstruating third-wave feminist

>>3859909
Keith Floyd is definitely the best. He really paved the way for all the guys today.

I like Gordon Ramsay.

English chef, restaurateur and media personality, Jamie Oliver, has a net worth of £150 million as of April 2012

Gordon Ramsay net worth is $118 million (£76million) according the 2010 Sunday Times Rich List Scottish chef.

Gordon for me. They're both actors, both with a shtick, and that's ok. I like neither because of that, they're both fake. But it's tv, it's acting, it makes people watch.

Gordon is a far better chef though: cultural understanding, technique, range. You can clearly see he studied under great chefs.

Jamie is somewhat more of a didly-doo-da who throws stuff together then grates ginger and koriander on top. Even though he worked for really great chefs too as an apprentice. Just watch him go to Italy on Youtube, and get laughed at.

Ramsay. /2cents

leave gordon to me

The best series/miniseries I have ssen is the Marco Cooks for (insert famous chef)

It just seemed genuine and had a no nonsense way about it. It also showed Marco before he had Knorr stamped on his forehead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-D8Wzqs-xc

>>3859843
>Alton Brown is a pompous, arrogant, & intelligent, asshole.
I don't understand how you can think that.

>>3859843
>Alton Brown is... intelligent
lol nope.

>>3860141
he was a great chef at that point, you can also see where gordon picked up some of his 'personality' from

Gordon.
Conservation, the whole sharkfin soup shit, etc.
He's a total bro for what he believes in.

Gordon, becuase he doesn't think he is the next messiah.

They're both spreading lies. Local does not mean better quality. I know because I've bought local and it is shit quality compared to the supermarket's produce.

Also, that chicken nugget show Jamie Oliver made was pure bullshit. Who cares that the chicken nuggets were a paste of nasty chicken parts at one time? That isn't unhealthy in itself. The frying of them is so why do you base your show on the paste part? Also it was annoying when he showed his disappointment when the children chose the nuggets over his chicken claiming with his whole "it's sad that the children are choosing this trash over my fresh healthy alternative, it really is a sad society we live in" act. Fuck him.

if you don't know what i'm talking about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9B7im8aQjo
warning: some of you will rage

If you actually watch Gordon's shows in the UK, you will see that he is completely different to the US. He doesn't shout or swear nearly as much, and is actually very good.

Jamie is too far up his own arse for my liking, so I will go with Gordon.

My favourite british TV chef at the moment is Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall. He seems very modest, and appreciates the origin of his ingredients.

>>3860579
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9B7im8aQjo
Oh, better play scarier music and exaggerate the sound of chopping meat to get your point across that this is bad.

Stop the presses (most) Kids are dumb and they like what tastes good over what is healthy.

Gordon Ramsay

No fucking comparison.

>British chefs

>>3860579
There's 56% corn in that Chicken McNugget of yours, which makes it (scientifically speaking) a corn nugget. Add dextrose, emulsifiers etc and you're looking at 40% chicken at best.

You're right though, bones, skin etc aren't bad at all. Instead he should've pointed at the preservatives, which are petrol based.

I like watching both but Jamie went down the shitter for me when he was cooking steak in olive oil (not that I hate olive oil, but IMO butter superior) and i fucking lost it when he smacked the steak for like 5 seconds with a split garlic clove and rosemary sprig and told me "it doesn't look like it's doing much, but it's really imparting flavor!".

And although it's been said time after time, Ramsay is a dick, but I appreciate learning his culinary skills (how to prepare fish for pan frying with skin intact, cutting steak against the grain, nice presentations, ect....) small things like that.

>>3860141

Believe it or not I love watching Marco's recipies with knorr. I just replace it with my own seasonings, but he provides very practice and simple ways to cook great meals at home. I consider him a part of the trifecta in my book up Ramsay and Roux.