/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>4789678
>redpill

what is this pol shit.

different temperatures for different cuts. except blue rare which only serves to mark you as an ignoramus. anything between raw and rare is incorrectly cooked aka ruined meat.

>>4789678
>redpill

I'm not even surprised you like well done steak, as I can already see that you are below average intelligence.

>>4789678
>Why would someone eat bloody steak?
That's not blood, it's just myoglobin.

>Why don't you use blood as seasoning in other food if its so tasty?
Have you never heard of blood sausage?

>redpill
Stopped reading, sage, reported, thread hidden, called moot on his cellphone, locked windows and doors.

you know what i miss

tasty wheat

Rare steaks have a lot of flavor but aren't warm enough for my liking. Medium-rare is the perfect spot for steaks for me. Well done kills all the flavor and makes it tough to eat, takes all the joy out of eating a steak.

Blue rare is for retards.

>>4789678
I'm just here to remind our /v/irgin visitors that Bass is the best tasting fish ever

>>4789678
>Why would someone eat bloody steak?

It's not blood. It's myoglobin. Also, why would you have an issue with eating blood, but not muscle? How are the two distinct in any way?

>Why dont you use blood as seasoning in other food if its so tasty?

It's often used as a thickener in sauces and braises.

The idea is that beef fiber becomes dense, tough and too chewy when cooked past a certain temperature. The steak also loses a lot of its moisture.

>itt: people don't know what redpill means
>people actually think /pol/ created the term
>they don't know its an old term
>OP even posts the matrix, a movie which popularized the already existent term bluepill and redpill

>>4789700

I told you before nigger, catfish or bust

>>4789700
Fuck off.
Pike perch and perch master race.

>>4789712
I ctrl+f'd the thread and I saw nothing about catfish

I will agree it is good though

>>4789711
OP used it as a verb.

>>4789712
Every time I've eaten catfish I've gotten the shits. I don't know what it is.

What the fuck does redpill even mean?

>>4789723

Underage V&

>>4789727
I assume it's some reference to the matrix about knowing the truth or something, but I've never heard that before. It sounds pretty stupid too

>>4789737

It's funny how you assume your opinion has any merit when you are so ill-equipped to discuss even the most basic pop culture.

>>4789754

i love the way you describe it as 'basic' like it's part of some hierarchical curriculum.

>>4789723
Ask /pol/ to redpill you on redpills.

>>4789755

It's not my fault you're a total Philistine.

>the matrix was 27 years ago

sad frog dot gif

>>4789700
>Bass is the best tasting fish ever

You misspelled Catfish.

>>4789789
You misspelled Crawdad.

>>4789779
>1999
>27 years ago

>>4789779
FUCK YOU NO

OH GOD WHY IS MY BEARD GREY

TIME, WHY YOU DO THIS

>>4789779
>tvhe matrix was 27 years ago
My god I was only 47 when the matrix came out on odeon.

>>4789801
>crawdad
>a fish
Yeah ok.

>>4789816

>you will never see the matrix in its original all-male troupe without any wire effects

I usually microwave my steak 3 mins a side. Comes out perfect

>>4789779
Even if you were talking about Matrix/Super girl your years are still wrong

>>4789831

>Microwave

Toe status: stepped

>>4789801
>crawfish
>actually a fish

you dumbass

>>4789829
lol'd

>>4789820
>>4789840
I just said something that I have heard black people say in american media.

>>4789846
>hasn't had crawfish before

Jesus you're so fucked up

>>4789829
BACK IN MY DAY, THEY USED REAL BULLETS

NEO WAS PLAYED BY THRITY TWO DIFFERENT ACTORS, MAY THEY ALL REST IN PEACE

>>4789849
I have.
We don't call it crawdad/crawfish in Norway though.

>>4789859
So
>you've had it
>know it's not a fish
>called it a fish anyways

What the fuck is wrong with you norseman? I think I better understand why my ancestors decided to fuck off to other parts of the world and rape things there.

>>4789871
I didn't call it a fish.
I just suggested it when you were discussing fish.

>>4789859
To bring this whole thing off topic,
when I went to visit my in-laws during the summer I finally got to have whale.

Have you had it, and what's your opinion on it?
I havent met many Norwegians who have been willing to eat it with me.

>>4789889
Nah. I don't think it's that common in the southern parts of norway.
People generally eat whale in the really cold climates above and close to the arctic circle because it's easy to store and is very fatty.
I can imagine I would hate it though.
Fat tastes terrible.

>>4789893
I was surprised, really. It doesnt taste blubbery and it didnt taste really fatty either.

And I don't know where you live, my the spouse and I were able to find it at pretty much every grocery store we went to in Oslo except for some small Kiwi corner stores.

>>4789924
I usually only go to kiwi. But yeah, I know you can get it pretty easily, it just isn't that big a part of the culture here. I live on the southwest coast btw.

>>4789775
Holy shit. Your autism is showing.

>>4789889
I gather Japan has to use most of their whale meat in prisons and school lunch programs now. Few Japanese choose to eat it, but there's such strong international condemnation against the government's whaling program that they don't want to back down or they'd look like pussies. They've been steadily increasing the whaling rate...1000 tons in the 90's, to 6000+ by the mid-2000's; that's when they had to resume forcing it on school children to do something with the glut.

>>4789893
>Fat tastes terrible.

>>4789889
Common enough that I can find it in the freezer in the south-west part of Norway.

I don't eat it anymore, tasted better when I grew up, now it tastes of spoiled fish oil.

>>4789893
Just so you know, whale beef doesn't come with blubber. It's like a fishy horse beef.

I only ever eat it well done. No way in hell am I going to risk poisening or somalia or whatever. Plus I hate seeing blood, and it better not have any gooey fat on it either

>>4790080
Hm. I wasn't aware actually.

>>4790087
Shit is lean as fuck.

I have a genetic mutation that increases my susceptibility to Gerstmann-Streussler-Scheinker Syndrome, a prion disease that my grandmother had for the last twenty years of her life. I have to eat all meat well and avoid organ meat.

No steak in the world is worth putting my family through what I had to go through with Grandma.

>>4790096
Damn. Looks kinda tasty. I might have to try that some time.

>>4790105
Meat has nothing to do with it bro.

>>4789711
Gay means happy, but given cultural context if you told someone you were gay, they'd assume otherwise.

>>4790116
Have some more whale steak porn.

Keep in mind, you'll have to be lucky to find any here in Norway that doesn't taste like bad fish oil.

>>4790105
It doesn't matter how much you cook the meat. Prions don't denature.

>>4790124
Those fries are horrific.

>>4790129
I wouldn't eat them, the steak is pretty pornographic though.

Blue-rare all the way. Fuck you /ck/

>>4789678
Firstly, welcome to /ck/ OP. We're friendlier than /b/.

Secondly, I prefer my steaks rare. But that's not why you're here.

Lastly, want a tasty, well-done steak?
>filet mignon, not too thick
>cook to medium-rare
>tent it in aluminum foil for 15 minutes
Juiciest and most tender well-done steak ever. Don't let the snobs here tell you otherwise.

>>4789691
Or a bowl of snot. Thanks for making me chuckle.

Picture unrelated. Meant to get OP's attention amongst all the fish posts.

>>4790135
>We're friendlier than /b/.
All the other boards are friendlier than /b/, unless you're a total pleb and don't bother to lurk.

>>4789884
>I just suggested it when you were discussing fish.
They were discussing what the best fish was. Crawdad is not a fish. And you suggested it anyway.
I have a feeling you're either a brilliant troll, or the most retarded anon I've ever seen on /ck/.

Also, all you people discussing fish, I'm disappointed that there wasn't a single mention of salmon nor cod. For shame.

>>4790129
they look great to me

>>4790164

>Salmon

BBQ salmon is okay I guess, Salmon has a rich flavor but it always feels too....much, it just feels like huge chunks

fuck cod

>>4790164

i haven't posted yet, but when i first saw the thread my first thoughts were of whether or not i could only eat any particular fish for the rest of my life. i dunno. salmon has this sweaty taste, which is delicious but if i ate it daily i would probably wind up suicidal.

>>4790202

try bluegill, best tasting fish imo

>>4790134
Agreed, unless it's bone-in or well marbled, black and blue is the way to go.

>>4789678

That is a valid question.

The composition of blood is actually fairly simple, except for the iron component and proteins.

>>4789721
Catfish is a shit fish. For fucks sakes they eat the dead and shit on the floor.

The best tasting fish is Sea Bass, although some don't like it for it's oily texture. Another great fish to eat is actually asian carp.

>>4790296
>best tasting fish
>not seared ahi tune
>not seared albacore tune
>not dolphin fish
come on /ck/...

>>4790135
I'm fond of the porterhouse... Pepper and salt on both sides, seared in a skillet. I know it's poor form to sear a steak in a skillet, but it's easily my favorite.

I simply seared it on high until both sides were carmelized, rested under aluminum tent for 15 minutes. Came out medium rare, was best steak.

>>4789685
>what is this pol shit
Not sure if you are retarded or joking

"red pill" comes from The Matrix

>>4789847
>>4789847

God I love old school PA.

>>4789816
>>4789829
>>4789851
lol this is why I like 4chan

>>4789779
By 27, you mean 14, right? Don't worry... you're just a little off.

>>4790333

yeah but it's been coopted by basement racists who think that saying "black people commit crimes" is the equivalent of a movie character being extracted from a virtual reality force field via 1999 scifi hacker methods.

if you've not ever visited that board, I envy you.

>>4789678
So let me get this straight... you came from /tv/, you use /pol/ slang and you came to /ck/ to troll by claiming to like well-done steak. You are a true scholar in the art of shitposting, my friend.

>>4789685
If you have good meat, and you like it blue, why does this make you an ignoramus? Does eating beef tartare make one an ignoramus?
I don't care what people think, but it's too bad that you've laid out the rules and deem my dinner ruined.
There is something to be said for the texture and flavor of raw meat, whether you can enjoy it or not.

>>4789697
>You like something that I can't handle. You are therefore a retard.

Get fucked.

>>4790525
>I can't handle
Yes, that must be it.

>>4789727
Vanned?

>>4790525
Nah fuck off. Medium rare is forever master steak. Rare and blue rare are shit, because they are cold in the middle or maybe room temp. Med rare is warm through but just warm, the middle hasn't actually cooked. I can handle a blue rare steak, I've had several. And its cold and chewy, not better than a well done steak which is hot and chewy.

Med-rare>med>rare>med well>well>blue rare.

Come at me faggots.

>>4790521

last I checked beef tartare was not cooked. so yeah thinking beef tartare = blue rare, makes you an ignoramus, fucktard.

>>4790086
Yes, you could be 'poisened' with 'somalia' if you eat beef less than well done. Stay stupid, jackass.

>>4790096
That definitely appears to be undercooked. It's best not to take chances with that risky beef.

>>4790540
do your high heals match the dress you are wearing today?

>>4790134
Amen, brother.

>>4790548
>hurrrr I'm a man I eat my steak blue rare!

Pathetic. It's obvious that you eat your steak in this manner simply to cultivate a certain image that you think people notice/give a shit about.

I bet you order scotch straight at the bar with a drop of water and go on about how ice kills it to anyone within earshot.

Congrats, you are a fag. Also, I hunt deer, moose, waterfowl, upland birds, and rabbit. Call me when you don't eat pre-processed meats.

>>4790296
....in your opinion. Far too many people express their opinion as if it's gospel truth.

I like medium-well.

I was at a really good steakhouse last year and ordered my ribeye medium-well. The waiter made a joke about it as he took my order.

The bill was $340 and I didn't tip him a penny. On my credit card slip I wrote, "medium-well was terrible, you were right!".

My fiancee was embarrassed as hell but I bet he won't be pulling that shit on a client again.

Blue rare is pure pleb. I'd probably rather a well done steak, at least the steak isn't cold.

>>4790557
Why do you feel the need to say this? What's next, "taste is subjective"?

Did you just get back from grade 11 philosophy class or something?

>>4790542
Yet your whole point is that beef must be cooked to a certain point or it's no good.
It's just semantic to argue that you're okay with raw beef if it's chopped up with stuff and covered in raw egg, yet a "steak" is no good unless it's AT LEAST cooked rare.
Which this asshole >>4790540
is not okay with.

>>4789691
Ha.

>>4790566

sort of. it either needs to be cooked properly, or not at all. no one is impressed with your ruined steak. sorry about your bad taste.

>>4790553
I eat blue steaks in my house by myself. But I do this in front of a mirror, so that I can hopefully at least convince myself that I'm a tough, manly man.
It's not because that's how I prefer beef or anything. For that would make me an idiot, because clearly, medium rare is the only way to eat it.

>>4790572
>eating beef
What's the matter, can't get any real meat and are sick of factory-raised chicken and pork?

Pathetic. You have no valid opinion on how meat should be prepared if your palate is limited to factory-farmed meat.

It's like being pretentious about how shit should be served.

>>4790553
raw beef dosnt bleed enough thats why i order mine slightly cooked so it makes the juices flow. anad fuck scotch! gimmie a Shirley Temple cocktail to drink

>>4790572
The fact that you called anon a woman for not liking blue rare is pretty transparent.

Thanks for playing.

>>4790560
You sure showed him!
But who won in the end? You did, because you learned a valuable lesson (MW IS terrible!). Since the server taught you that lesson, you should've tipped him.
I hope that cunt you chose leaves you at the alter for a nice rare steak.

>>4790571
No one is impressed with your criteria for "properly cooked". Sorry about your closed mind and resigned palate.

>>4790574
Factory farmed? What ever has you suspecting I eat anything but grass-fed Black Angus cattle that I slaughter in my backyard? Please, don't make assumptions.

If beef, chicken and pork are no good, what "real meat" do you suggest?

>>4790576
That wasn't me. There are apparently other people in this thread that are willing to argue for blue steaks.
Also, heels and dresses do not make a woman. This is 4chan after all.

>>4790587
>try to think of something fancy
>oh the mall pleb chain steak house is fancy, I'll say black angus!

you know that's just a standard brand of beef cattle right?

>>4790585

I don't need to impress anyone on 4chan. you might want to stop forcing yourself to pretend to like ruined meat though. you might enjoy your food more if you just eat what tastes good.

>>4790333

or total recall

>>4790553

>I bet you order scotch straight at the bar with a drop of water and go on about how ice kills it to anyone within earshot.

lol i do this

I think everyone should eat their steak like they want. My personal favourit is Medium Well, but I wouldnt turn down most other ways either. But I think I'd never pay for blue rare or well done.

>>4791155
Why the drop of water? It makes barely any sense at all.

>>4791167

gentler on the palate

they usually just give me a small glass of water so i can do it myself

>>4791168

also disturbing it with water makes it easier to smell

>>4789697
obviously you have never eaten superior beef

>>4790534
welcome to 4chan
now take your hands off the keyboard and start lurking

>>4790428
True, only one is real

>>4791172
Make sure it is water that has been scooped from a mountain in th highlands with a crystal spoon.

>>4789956
Yet he was right.
>u pleb

>>4791362

the thing about culture is that you can have never seen the matrix and still be a very cultured individual. it's only 'basic' in the sense that it doesn't ask much of the viewer.

>>4791323
Actually that would ruin the taste, too many particles. Go for some neutral water, neither high in calcium nor iron. Some single malts (cask strength ones) are so hard that they need a drop of water before their taste is really "activated". In very much the same way as a small pinch of nutmeg can reveal more flavor from a white sauce.

>>4789678
Because rare is nicer for some people. It has a sweeter flavor, is more juicy, and a different texture. All those faggots claiming blue rare is horrible or well is horrible, or whatever else, it's all a matter of preference. Some like beer, some hate it. Some like ice cream, some think it's a cold mess of overly sweet crap. Blue rare is most often for the people that has eaten rare for a long time and wanna get that sensation they had when they first went from medium or well to eating rare. It's even sweeter than rare, and has a more chewy texture.

inb4 whine whine stop liking what I don't like because I'm a faggot whine whine

>>4789678
As other already said there is very little to no blood at all in steaks, since blood is drained right after the animal got slaugthered.

Still blood is consumed in several dishes like blood sausage, and pressed duck ( canard au sang).

Pressed duck starting with a duck whom has been strangled to retain all of its blood.
Then the duck is roast whole, liver, legs and breast are cut off the carcass once roast, and prepared.
This carcass is then pressed (using a silver press to avoid oxydation) to obtain all the blood and juices from the tasty bird.
These liquids are then flambé with different alcohol and poured still hot over the meat.

pic related the duck goes in the blood goes out.

>>4791425
fuck me. that sounds so tasty. i think I am on the verge of losing my mind. I have to taste that

what sort of places sell that

>>4791566
France

>>4790428
It's actually about Jews controlling everything. Not black people committing crimes.

>>4791566
You can get it at Otto's in London and Daniel in NYC (listed as one of the top five culinary experiences in the world by Adam Richman)

>>4791611
it's both

>>4789678
Next time you order a steak, try it medium. You'll be surprised at how much juicier it is. Then you'll be tempted to try medium rare, and eventually you end up rare or blue rare.

>>4791611
i'm willing to accept the jewishness of the overlords
but really is there any evidence they organize and have this underground human control center and publish specific media in order to sway public opinion? i mean, really? that would imply that all of the writers for all comics, movies, tv series and novels are all in on it and just writing what the jews in the background tell them to
i mean, really?

>>4791655

>listed as one of the top five culinary experiences in the world by Adam Richman
>Adam Richman

Is this who /ck/ is getting their advice from now?

>inb4 he's worked almost every job in the restaurant industry

If you want to go visit Sceak I'm pretty sure that Joe Beef does pressed duck.

>>4789678
>Someone told me to fuck off and that I should visit /ck/ for education on the subject.
And now you are his bitch

Fuck off and leave /ck/

The perfect steak should be juicy, tender, and will melt in your mouth without feeling like mush.
Undercooking leaves a stringy, tough mess that is disgusting to chew through. Overcooking creates a dry, flavourless slab of leather.

The exact degree of perfect doneness depends a lot on the meat in question. You will know it when you taste it. I generally order rare and receive anything from rare to medium.

I will say that in general, undercooking is a greater evil than overcooking. Most people will just sigh and eat a well done or even burnt steak. Almost nobody will be willing to eat a slab of raw meat.

>>4793075

the perfect steak should be cooked to however someone prefers it, assfag

>>4793075
i abso fucking lutely hate this picture. this isn´t how it is at all. this is just unevenly cooked steaks.

this is more like the truth, best one i could find.

>>4793081
this one is also decent.