/ck/ - Food & Cooking

I mix a few teaspoons of this with some hot tap water.

>>4976124

>>4976113
>moka pot

I've had one for about 2 years now. I don't particularly like the coffee it makes. I tend to use my standard generic drip brew machine much more often

>>4976132

Not trying to be funny or baiting, I'm sincere. I add cream and sugar to my coffee. What's the point of using traditionally brewed coffee if I'm just gonna mask the coffee flavor with cream anyways?

>>4976113
Moka pot master race

Gaggia Classic.

drinking 1 espresso on weekdays and 3 on the weekend

This bitch right here

Mechanism: Auto-drip maker
Beans: typically medium-to-dark roast
Additions: a little milk

>>4976138
did your parents fail you at childhood?
https://www.google.no/search?q=hot+tap+water&oq=hot+tap+water&

>>4976113
Nothing batter than Moka pot

>>4976113
>How does /ck/ make it's coffee?
Oh, you know, just with whatever I have lying around.

>>4976280

I love coffee, drank it a lot but had to quit after it gave me nasty headaches and nausea ;;

Whole bean coffee, bodum electric grinder right before, aeropress or french press.

What's the best whole bean commercial brand available in grocery stores? I dig Newman's Own dark roast. I usually buy local beans at the place nearby but they're pretty expensive.

lets get something straight, a moka pot makes BAD coffee. The entire apparatus heats up and scalds your brew, giving it a bitter taste. Yes, you can avoid this with some technique, but it's still a crap shoot. The design is flawed so you have to learn to work around it. The Aeropress doesn't have this problem. It's designed well and works with you instead of against you.

The moka pot has lots of small inaccessible places that are difficult or impossible to clean. Sure, people say you should season it, but one mans seasoning is another mans rancid coffee oil that makes everything taste stale. That's without going into the problem with mould if you store it without use for a long time. Aeropress? Easiest thing in the world to clean.

Moka pots are also susceptible to corrosion and pitting over time. Aluminum + heat + water = corrosion. Aeropress is made of plastic. Sure it might crack and discolour and wear out over several thousand brews, but it won't impart any off flavours to your coffee.

Aeropress is far, far more versatile. You control coffee dose, brew water and contact time. Long steep with a coarse grind? Go for it. Short steep, fine grind? Absolutely. Coffee concentrate? Sure. Regular strength, single cup brew? Why not. Moka pot? Sorry, just a poor imitation of espresso.

tl;dr: Aeropress makes better coffee, is easier to clean, is comparably durable and is more versatile. I don't know why anyone would get a Moka pot instead.

>>4976302
bono is SUCH a faggot.

Percalator. All other ways suck.

Siphon or moka

>>4976302
I've seen this before. Fuck you Bono, and your copypasta.

>>4976302
*tips fedora

>>4976332
I remember when the pour-over thing became the hot new fad

>>4976113

>grind starbucks house blend beans (about 3-4 spoonfuls)
>put in single serving French press
>add boiling water
>wait 1 minute
>stir
>wait 3 minutes
>drink

I generally drink my coffee black or with 1 suger, anything else is full on pleb

>using a coffee machine
>adding milk to your weak coffee
>being this pleb
it's like you hate coffee, the same people who use coffee machines eat well done steak and drink Michelob ultra.

>>4976360

>>4976360
>drinks starbucks
>accuses others of being coffee plebs

>>4976381
Starbucks coffee itself is decent enough, the swill they churn out of the industrial sized drip machines at their stores is the problem.

>>4976302
Paper filter makes best coffee, is easiest to clean, is simplest . I don't know why anyone would get an aeropress pot instead.
I also like to brew coffee by a moka pot which makes coffee taste different.

>>4976416
paper filter lacks the pressure to make perfect coffee

Starbucks is sucks. It's not for a coffee lover.

>>4976302

Fellow champion of the aeropress master race,
Hope you use an able disk.

>>4976423
Pressure is not needed to make perfect coffee, rather makes coffee muddy.

>>4976440

>Pressure not needed

look at this pleb, 9 bars of pressure is required for decent crema.

>>4976416
an aeropress uses a paper filter.
many people say that is the flaw of the aeropress...that its paper filter absorbs oils from the coffee... and so they invest in a meal filter for their aeropress.

you don't know what you're talking about... so shut the fuck up you diss-informed villager

>>4976445
I don't like Italian coffee

>>4976447
metal

>>4976447
But I guess I'd had a lot more coffee so far than you and I can tell what I like

>>4976440
if the coffe is muddy, it is grinded too fine. you need pressure, otherwise the extraction takes to long which results in bitter coffee. also: no pressure, no crema.

>>4976450

Maybe someone can water down that shot for you and make it an americano so the intense flavor and aroma you experience of drinking espresso can be more bland.

Hey it worked during WW2!

Italian coffee is just different, you guys. It's just a way of brewing

>>4976457
keep guessing fucko
I'm 43 years old. i been drinking coffe since i was 13

>>4976459
I don't need crema for my coffee. I don't like Italian coffee, but clear taste ones

>>4976477
you don't like coffee. what you like, i suppose, is some sort of brown watery sauce based on caffeine.

and why in the world would someone pass on a thick crema. it keeps the coffee warm and adds so much to the experience

>>4976474
>I'm 43 years old. i been drinking coffe since i was 13

Oh, my friend! I'm 46 years old. i been drinking coffe since i was 13. But those were diffrent ones than yours.

>>4976350
>>>reddit
You're not even using that right

>>4976486
I like American coffee. Much precisely, Japanese coffee; City roasted, paper filtered black coffee

>>4976499

Read: I like to filter out the rich health providing oils (kahweol and cafestol). I much prefer my coffee have a bleached chlorine taste instead.

>>4976464
>americano
Italian americano is way different than real American coffee.

>>4976510

Wikipedia

"The name has its origins in WW2 when American G.I.s in Europe would pour hot water into stronger coffee to approximate the coffee to which they were accustomed."

I only enjoy espresso kind of coffee in Italian restaurant with dolce

>>4976332
why are you using whipping cream instead of normal?

>>4976528
But it's different
I also tried to make American type coffee in Vietnam but failed. I know these GIs feeling

>>4976545

Veit coffee is actually french influenced (because of the occupation).

You guys would never understand the taste of coffee that I have every morning, which is of god-like taste, is of American. No drink can compare.

>>4976570
Right. It's mostly of Robsta.
I prefer cafe latte than café au lait

Thanks, guys. I've learnt what was a hook for Italian coffee

>>4976414
nice try baitmaster. even 4chan isnt stupid enough to buy pre burnt shit roast

>>4976414
I bought some last week from their store.. it was pretty fucking good. i assumed it was because they have a high turn-around of coffee and was relatively fresh.. whereas if i buy from my local grocery store the coffee has probably been sitting their for months

>>4976577
Its the same.thing you fucking pleb.

Latte = au lait

Just a percolator. I wish I was more into coffee.

>>4976759
of course starbucks tastes good when youre used to buying from a grocery store lol.

never buy coffee that doesnt have a roast date printed on it.

I swallow the grounds and drink boiling water. I'm not sure if I'm doing it right. Should it be the other way round?

>>4976798
>Not roasting at home

It's literally as easy as making air popped corn and uses the same appliance.

>>4976764
cafe latte and cafe au lait are extremely similar but technically not the same thing. dont call people plebs for knowing more than you do about a subject.

cafe au lait is 50% stronger than normal brewed coffee with 50% steamed milk

lattes are steamed milk and espresso

and while we're at it, capucinos arent the same either.

ideally they are 1/3 ratios of espresso, steamed milk and then frothed milk

>>4976809
i've been trying to find the right kind of popper actually, but honestly, please dont try to tell me that ghetto homemade roasts are half as good as buying from a local roaster. i am lucky enough to live 20 minutes from where One Village coffee is roasted.

>>4976821
The beauty is that you don't have to keep going back to get freshly roasted. I have 3 coffee cans so I can roast, let it degas and brew at exactly the right time. After 5 days from roasting, you might as well be making instant.

>>4976833
well i'm glad it works for you. do you have any pics of your setup or beans? i'd love to see. however 5days from roasting being of instant is a heavy exaggeration. if you are grinding fresh before every cup you can get a lot more life out of a roast. however there is definitely a noticeable change. how even do your roasts turn out?

Drip, like everyone else in this country.

I've heard someone say that swedish coffe is strong as fuck, though I doubt it.

>>4976360

> Uses boiling water

Congratulations you don't deserve to drink coffee or criticise others in any way.

>>4976113
I am gonna move out soon and leave my parents automatic espresso machine behind. I consider buying a Bialetti Moka Express. Does moka taste comparably good?

>>4976874
moka is the closest thing youll get to espresso other than espresso.

once your moka gets seasoned and you get used to using it youll enjoy it. such as how much water, what temperature to put in initially, grind size, when to remove from heat, when to stop brewing.

1. Put a mug or cup of water ina a small pot, put a teaspoon of sugar and put on high heat
2. Wait til boiling then remove from heat and put a teaspoon per cup (more like a bunch on a spoon) or two of ground coffe (not instant coffe(amount of coffe spoons depends on cup or mug size 3 at max))
3. mix it, and bring back to boil, te coffe foam will rise
4. remove from heat and wait for coffe to sediment on bottom of pot
5. pour in cup/cups and add sugar or milk according to taste

Y'all can't even compare.

I make instant coffee. If I want a proper coffee I'll just go down to the bar under my house.

Starbucks K-cups, black, I know I'm a pleb

>>4976804

>>4978249
Most authentic and best way to make coffee, gets the most aroma and flavor. Best way to make coffee.

>>4978249
you best be using a dallah

drip maker with 4 scoops of Folgers

or bustelo espresso in a 6 shot moka pot

I when I can get it, do a 20 of cocaine.

>>4976360
>drinking jewbucks
You deserve every ounce of jew brew that comes out of that french press.

I walk over to Dunkin Donuts and give them 2 bucks and change. Then I drink the slightly bitter water and regret not getting a hot chocolate instead.

I grind beans at the grocery store and brew them in an inexpensive french press. I drink the coffee cold with half-and-half and Sweet 'n' Low.

>>4976280
I'll admit it: I am maximum jelly.

Anyone use one of these? I'm telling you, if you do the recipe right it can taste better than Starbucks lattes.

>>4978373
>Most authentic
nuh-uh, nigga.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZwmIsdE7z4

>>4978514
>Starbucks lattes
>not the worst lattes on the high street
Seriously that shit is nasty

I really love coffee, but for lots of years my stomach didn't like it as much as I do. Recently I discovered a way of drinking coffee which not only didn't hurt me but it even helped me digest.

I do it on my french press, and use only 100% arabica, no robusta at all, which I buy in beans and grind at home, pretty coarse at it should be for a french press. And of course, the key to not hurting my stomach, natural roasting. I don't know if you have heard of "torrefacto", it's the most popular in my country, people look at you weird if you ask for anything else at your standard "cafetería". For "torrefacting" the coffe, they literally burn the beans together with sugar, which gives them a caracteristic deep black color. This suposedly gives the drink more color and aroma, and helps preserve the beans. However, this gives a burnt color, a shitty burnt smell and kills any aroma or flavour from the coffee.
Besides, the burnt sugar gives you a disgusting bitter taste (not the right kind of bitter, which I love), so you need lots of sugar in your drink. Twice as much sugar just because. But hey, old habits die hard.

>>4978528
I dunno, their chai latte is pretty good and this machine makes a better one.

I use both cinnamon chai tea bags and vanilla chai bags, it makes the latte very good. Don't tell anyone I told you this.

>>4978514
>lattes
>milk
>anything but black

I make and drink french press coffee using a whirly-bird grinder
My water is good
My beans are probably good, roasted day of buy (not by me, as I don't own a roaster) and a decent variety at the store, which I've just randomly gone through (don't remember the name of the one I actually prefer at the moment, just know the storage location). I've only dealt with a single store's beans, pre-ground coffee and coffee franchises (starbucks) so I don't have much of a comparison point. I've clearly gone beyond the latter two, at least. Store sells good fruit though.

So if I want to improve my coffee, what should I change first. I don't want to buy a bunch of shit at once, going step by step. I'm currently thinking burr grinder or maybe drip coffee. Personal roaster only if I had a trusted seller of green beans since I can't really judge the quality of greens and the store I go to for roasted doesn't sell greens

>>4978518

>dat jebena

>>4976113
On the rare occasions I drink coffee, I use my wife's keurig

>>4980189

If you're regularly getting fresh roasted beans, I wouldn't worry too much about roasting them yourself.

A good burr grinder is a sound investment. They're far quieter than blade grinders and produce consistent results quickly.

As for preparation, how would you like to see your coffee improved? If you like the press coffee but would like less sediment, try an aeropress. Want it smooth and strong? You need an espresso machine. Mellow and earthy? Get a cezve and try Turkish.

...I can't think of any redeeming qualities that percolated or drip coffees have. Someone help me out here.

>>4976113

used to use one of those two-part espresso steamer things, then I got a French press and never looked back. In the old days I had a couple of drip filter coffee makers.

>>4980334
smoother and stronger is exactly where i'd like to go but god damn expresso machines are a bitch to buy, expensive as shit and ugly in a home kitchen setting
what a pain
didn't realize turkish coffee was such a simple process though, might just shift into that. Would make a much better afternoon coffee than the french I think
I actually don't know shit about drip coffee though something about the process just seemed like it'd make a stronger cup and I had vague memories of people advocating it over french. Was going to look into it further before moving into it, if it were a thing to be moved into

Pour-over brewing is the purest and most elegant method, producing the fullest and cleanest flavor.

Fashion is stupid.

>Want to get into serious coffee
>Preground goes shitty within a week
>Good grinders are pretty expensive
>Zero local roasteries because alkfdjng
Why is life so hard

>>4980422
>expresso machines are a bitch to buy, expensive as shit and ugly in a home kitchen setting what a pain

If the equipment for espresso is out of reach you might try a Brikka Moka pot. Won't be as good as espresso but the pot is small, cheap and simple.

Bear in mind that Turkish does come with a lot of sediment no matter how carefully you settle and pour the pot. Resist the urge to upend the cup near the end of the drink.

>>4980451
but pour over is the most fashionable coffee serving style in a modern setting

>>4980458
go in steps
french press can do fine on a cheap whirlybird grind
start with a cheapo roaster http://www.sweetmarias.com/sweetmarias/coffee-roasters/air-roasters/west-bend-air-crazy.html
haven't actually used this but sweetmarias seems like a trustworthy site
lots of good coffee info and they give substantial tip pages on the roasters they sell
I imagine their green beans are decent too but again never tried theirs

so
bodum french press $30
air popper roaster $30
4 pound bean sampler back from maria $10
cheap whirlybird $15 tops
1 airtight storage pot 2 from muji $10

$95 excluding shipping for a full, decent coffee setup that can easily be expanded upon as you get more involved and produce better quality and understand quality in coffee better

>>4980485
>If the equipment for espresso is out of reach you might try a Brikka Moka pot
It's more of espresso machines being filled with a bunch of different moving parts that it becomes extremely hard to judge quality without having already interacted with the system on its whole. The only machines that tend to be well received for every part are well above $500 (which is far too much an investment with no legitimate knowledge of espresso preparation) and those below, although varied in their issues, become difficult to tell how important an issue those things will actually become.
The other problem is that the only way I'd ever prepare a decent espresso without any sort of 'teacher'/source of great espresso is if I could be guaranteed that everything I was interacting with is working optimally (or close enough), so that the only cause of subpar espressos or any change in quality would be entirely on me. Otherwise it would be extremely difficult to locate what changed (because anything could have caused it, the fuck do I know how an 'off' steamer affects the taste)
Espresso machines are just very daunting and it seems like it'd be too big a thing to simply jump into.

And then of course the brikka moka (or any relatives) probably wouldn't assist in fixing the espresso issue itself, but a decent cup is a decent cup. I'll look into it

>Resist the urge to upend the cup near the end of the drink.
the most dangerous of coffee

>>4980516
>It's more of espresso machines being filled with a bunch of different moving parts

There's a pump, and the thermoblock doesn't exactly move.

>The only machines that tend to be well received for every part are well above $500

Coffee snobs gonna snob. A $100 entry level machine will make espresso just fine despite what naysayers say.

Features like pre-infusion and pressure control are nice, but not at all required. Anything that can do 10 bar or better will make proper espresso.

It's all about using fresh coffee, a fine grind and tamping the puck properly.

>an 'off' steamer affects the taste

You don't use a steamer at all when preparing espresso. The steamer is used on milk to prepare cappuccino and latte.

Also I've been using espresso machines for years and I have no idea what is meant by an "off" steamer. Is it full of rancid milk? Don't forget to clean and purge it after every use. Being dirty isn't the machine's fault.

>>4976124
Pleb as fuck. Holy shit.

>>4980189
The single biggest and most important rule you can swear by when it comes to coffee is the following: almost every single time, the biggest upgrade you can make to your set up is the grinder. Buy a good grinder. A good grinder is very very important.

>>4980451
Pour over is incredibly fashionable. What are you smoking?

>>4980458
Roast your own. You don't need anything more complicated than a cast iron pan. Preground coffee is shit the second you buy it. Whole beans are shit unless you see a date roasted.

Check out Sweet Maria's. Awesome for home roasters. They will sell you 1-2 lbs of green beans at a time, and they have a fuck ton of resources on roasting your own.

>>4978537
>Being this much of a fucking peasant.
A well prepared latte or capp will highlight and further an espresso in a lot of ways, capps in particular. Only the uncultured or uninitiated who want to look tough dismiss milk drink.

>>4980544
took the concepts too literally
moving parts was just referring to the many different pieces to the machine
off steamer was using steamer as a variable, anything could be replaced. I was simply stating that I would be unable to discern what individual function of the system (machine and the preparation as a whole) was at fault.

Basically I was just saying that the french press simply consists of the grind, the coffee, the boil and the brew time. With, of course, a clean filter pot and water. Nothing else significantly affects the output, the coffee itself. But, as it seems anyways, the espresso intakes many more variables than that. Well, every coffee produced through the system anyways. There's shit about shot and steamer times, quantities, grind, bean quality, roast seems to play a bigger role here, brew time, clean tools, etc
Coffeegeek's mini-review of a grinder for espresso machine use
>The Maestro Plus shares the same motor and gearing system with the Maestro, but its upgrades include a slightly larger grind range, more metal on the body, a weighted base, and side timer + front microswitch for active grinding on demand.
one machine
> My main espresso machine, a Frankenstein'ed La Marzocco Linea, is actually the EE version (automatic), but Lineas have always had semi-auto controls on the machines as a secondary system, just in case the automatic controls go south.
like fuck these are really dense descriptions

anyways the rest of your info is still good

So I have $130
What's the best budget way to make coffee?
I'm being trained as a barista is a cafe, but I'm a complete coffee pleb when it doesn't come to using an espresso machine.

Crossland cc1 with a Baratza Vario grinder. Get on my level son.

>>4980935
you
fuck
>>4980495

>>4976133
>>4976152
>>4976176
>>4976124
>>4976332
>>4978511

you should all be killed

>>4978534
>chai latte

get the fuck out

>>4978537

>refers to espresso, long/short black, macchiato etc as "black coffee"

you probably sperg out and make scene demanding "REGULAR BLACK COFFEE" in coffee chains or cafes

>>4980935
>I'm being trained as a barista is a cafe
>barista is a cafe

>>4982013
now THAT's shitposting!

>>4980864
>There's shit about shot and steamer times

Shot time on an espresso machine is controlled by your handling of the coffee grinds. It's not up to the equipment. If you filled the portafilter evenly and gave it a proper 30Lb tamp, the shot should take roughly 25 seconds from the time you hit the switch on the brew cycle to when your shot is full. If it goes too fast or too slow then you need to git gud.

There's no such thing as steamer times. You steam milk until it's hot enough for you and has the consistency you want and then you stop.

>quantities, grind, bean quality, roast seems to play a bigger role here, brew time, clean tools, etc

These apply to everything, even a french press... If you're thinking you can just eyeball the brew and plunge a certain way to consistently get ambrosia, you are going to be very disappointed.

I normally make plunger coffee, but sometimes I get lazy and pleb.

Today I had Nescafe instant coffee with Dare Iced Coffee instead of milk.

I started drinking coffee a few months ago after traveling to the pacific northwest and returning to work depressed and jet lagged.
Ive been buying preground coffee, trying all sorts of roasts. Medium nutty chocolatey roasts are my fav.
I use a standard drip coffee maker with the brown unbleached filters.
My next purchase will be a grinder.

> large mug
> 2 spoons of coffie
> 6 spoons of sugar
> very hot water

>>4976152

French press = YES

Instead of cream and sugar I use icecream

>>4980971
>Crossland cc1 with a Baratza Vario grinder.

Nice.

I'm thiking about buying a moka pot but I know nothing about it.
Are there specific brand I should be looking for?
And does the size of the moka pot matter?

The place I'm staying at in Spain has one of these things, but it's a lot older looking. I was told it can be used for coffee but it looks more like some sort of ancient witch like potions brew. How in the hell do you use that thing?

>>4985881
only buy original Bialetti I guess...
Size matters. If you buy a bigger one, you get more coffee ;)

>>4980971
Nice setup mate.

>>4985881
I would stick with Bialetti. People generally say the small moka pots perform the best. Make sure to save money and spring for a nice stainless steel one. Don't go cheap and get an aluminum one. You'll regret it.

>>4976113
what i want to know is how to make something that tastes like store bought cappachino mix

Why are burr grinders so fucking expensive? Even the manual ones are expensive, pic related it's $50 for a hand powered set of gears set atop a jar.

probably because most people only ever purchase one. turkish coffee grinder seem interesting and are about half the price. i have no idea how well they would work

>>4986612
Stainless steel blades with a tight dimensional tolerance

>>4976113
>cuban
I use a cafetera like the picture you got there. Everyone's calling it a moka pot so i guess that's the brand or something. Dad's always just called it a cafetera.

I usually drink mine americano unless I'm feeling fancy and drink a mini espresso.

>>4976474
>>4976487
fuck me. you idiots are too damn old to be arguing on 4chan

>>4986631
>cafetera
That's just Spanish for "coffeemaker." A press pot, a pour-over and automatic drip machines are no less cafeteras than a moka pot.
Cross reference French 'cafetiere,' Italian 'caffetiera,' Greek 'kafetiera' and Romanian 'cafeatera.'
'Moka' is not a brand-name, just the name for a style of coffee brewer. Etymologically (according to the Italian-language wikipedia page on the moka), the name of the pot was chosen after the city of Mokha in Yemen which is well-known for its quality coffee production.

>>4986612

Burrs require tight manufacturing tolerances and are made of heavy solid stock.

>>4986618
>i have no idea how well they would work

Slowly.

>>4986618
Slowly. Very slowly. Not even the assistance of power tools makes it any faster.

Simple question.
We live in the country, and we have a well system of course, but our water is really hard. We have a softener, but not sure it's hooked up to the cold water in the kitchen. Not a big deal for food or anything but we've got keurig, and would prefer to use distilled water so as not to clog it with scale and the like.

So, is there a maybe less-than-glamorous or inconvenient way you can distill about a gallon a day without having to heat the water from an electrical source?

>>4976280
Oh I get it. You don't know how to roast, grind and tamp your own beans so you let something souless make it for you? ....like a starbucks employee?

>>4976280
>Bragging about owning a super auto
I've never even heard of that brand of espresso machine maker.

'sup

>>4987217

i got one of them badboys

whats the best flavour thing you think or pods or whatever the fuck they are

>>4987217
I know even though K-cups are fast becoming a standard let's do something only very slightly different so we can have brand wars. it worked for betamax!

Just an observation, not meant to stir up a shitstorm.

>>4987219

I haven't tried many but I like the Chococino one.
Chai Tea Latte is also quite good, though something in it makes me feel like puking sometimes.
I also make hot chocolate sometimes.
I should probably buy some latte or cappuccino capsules.

I haven't made any "regular" coffee with it, as I drink it a lot at uni.

>>4987225

agree with all that

but the latte/cappucino ones i found were kinda plain

the best of those imo was the caramel latte macchiato

but the "plain" ones were still pre good

Love my machine, makes great espresso/coffee and is easy to handle

>>4986676
I am one hundred years old and your post gave me cancer

>>4987272
What kind?

Cafes all day erryday

Chemex is the truth

>>4987217
>implying coffee föavoured cream and sugar is coffee
Either OP's way
Or pic related is the true way to go

>>4987424
Except pic related is fucking doing it wrong.
Hot water THEN coffee
Plunger in but not down
Wait for sweet, sweet brewage
Plunger down/up/down/etc.
keep it down then pour

>>4987440
>Hot water THEN coffee
You're the only person I've ever heard doing this.

>>4987445
Cooking 101:
Always add solids to liquids.
If you put the coffee on the bottom, unless you're super careful and shake and mix it as the water is being poured, the coffee won't saturate correctly, which leads to a weaker than normal brew.
If you put coffee on top, however, you give it a chance to both absorb the water and then settle, which releases more flavor. Plus you can tell when your coffee is brewed because there will be no dry coffee on top at all, and most will have settled to the bottom. It also allows the plunger to do it's magic, that is, to fully saturate any un-brewed coffee on the top that is still floating.

>>4987454
I've never really had a problem with coffee agitation when I pour in hot water, but I'll have to give this a try to see if it really makes that much of a difference.

>>4987464
Protip: it won't.

>>4987454
but when you coffee > pour, the majority of the coffee sits on top. You then stir to get the majority of the coffee to actually sit within the water. If you just leave it sitting on top, most of the coffee simply isn't interacting with the water for the majority of the brew time and if you wait for it all to settle, you're getting varying levels of interaction. The ones that sat within from the start will over-brew and release bitter oils by the time the ones that sat above give off their general amount.
This is what I think should happen anyways, never tried pour > coffee myself but I don't see how it'd work out well. I'm not sure why you're multi-plunging either
Might just be fucking with me I suppose

>>4987221

K-cups have too many limitations to be the one-stop coffee pod. K-cup machines cannot generate espresso and there's no standardization to ensure they'll go well with steamed milk.

Both Nespresso and Dolce Gusto pods are made to specs that ensure you can run them under pressure and that the coffee they contain goes well with the steamed milk the automatics produce.

Dolce Gusto in particular allows the pod manufacturer to vary pressure for the coffee type by varying the membrane and perforater in the bottom of the pod.

Nespresso pods are nitrogen-packed to evacuate all the oxygen in them before being sealed. This keeps the coffee a lot fresher than a k-cup.

Tassimo actually lets the pod instruct the machine on the proper brew method to use by way of a bar code printed on the pod itself.

Aeropress 99% of the time, moka when I want something with milk in it.

>>4976124
>FINAL BOSS
>FINAL DESTINATION
>NO MORE QUARTERS
LETS DO THIS!

>>4976302
AEROPRESS is MASTERRACE. i should buy another one.

I like my women like I like my coffee, ground up and stored in the freezer

I press the button on the coffee machine in the school's cafeteria and it gives me a vanilla latte. It's so covered with water and vanilla sweetener I can't even taste the coffee beans, which is a good thing since I hate coffee.

>>4976113
Machineto all the way. The only way.

>>4985881
>I'm thiking about buying a moka pot but I know nothing about it.
Ok, a moka pot is just a 2-chamber system where the water goes in the bottom, grounds in the middle and espresso-like coffee comes out the top. For best results, you will need a coffee grind slightly larger than standard espresso as well.

>Are there specific brand I should be looking for?
No. The designs are all well known, the materials to make them are all common, and the key patents have all expired, so feel free to cheap out at first-you'll still get a perfectly serviceable pot. The more expensive ones have smoother finishes that help with cleanup and handles that stand up to high heat better, but even the cheap ones aren't bad. You'll want a tight, sure fit between bottom and top and an easily replaceable rubber seal so that you can keep your moka pot going for decades to come. Accordingly, if you buy a standard-sized moka pot (1-cup, 3-cup, 6-cup), you'll be able to find seals at your local kitchen store or on Amazon.

>Does the size of the moka pot matter?
No, they all make pretty good coffee, it's mostly about how much do you want at one time, and how much coffee you want to waste while getting your method down. Moka pots require a certain amount of steam pressure to function, and that is affected by the amount of water and the amount of coffee you use, so there's no such thing as just a half-batch. It's either a full moka pot, or it doesn't work quite right. But that's why they make different sizes
If all you like is one espresso or cappucino at a time, get the 1-cup size; If you like some of the stronger coffee drinks, get a 3-cup; If you're making for more than 1 person, the 6-cup is more your speed, and so on.
When I got mine the only size they had in the store was the 6-cup. Looking back, I wish I could've found a 3-cup pot or smaller, as I'm not that big of an addict, and I'm the only coffee drinker in my home. One espresso drink for me is enough for the whole day.

>>4986576
>I would stick with Bialetti. People generally say the small moka pots perform the best.
I don't know about "best", but the smaller ones do produce enough coffee for one person without too much waste, and that matters.
Practice makes perfect with a moka pot, and while the bigger machines don't work any worse, they do make too much coffee for one person at one time, so the people who have them won't use them that often. Then because they don't use them, they don't have the right ratios down, don't clean them as often, et cetera, and while all of that makes for worse coffee, it's not the machines' fault. The machines themselves work great.

>Make sure to save money and spring for a nice stainless steel one. Don't go cheap and get an aluminum one. You'll regret it.
Come on now, no they won't. Aluminum works great, and it's less than 1/2 the cost of stainless. Auminum really isn't that much more of a bear to clean either-soap and hot water works just as well on aluminum as it does on stainless. Cast aluminum doesn't play as well with dishwashers like stainless does, it's true; then again, neither do a moka pot's rubber seals, which is why they should all stay out of the dishwasher altogether. At any rate, it's quicker to wash the pot by hand anyway.

>>4987194
Yep. People with souls have days when they make shitty coffee.
A soulless machine doesn't.
It just follows the perfect method every time and keeps on making awesome coffee.

>>4989721
>Machineto
Wut?

>>4989899
he means macchinetta.

>>4989906
Yeah, I know.

>>4985629
>6 spoons of sugar
What the actual fuck? You are going to lose your foot

>>4978368
Is that bitch playing solitaire on company time?

my favorite
tastes like french press sort of. little different though, and you don't make more than you need.

hario v60 makes the nicest coffee i've had
although i'm guessing it's not that different from other cones, i've only used this one
i grind my beans cause after doing it everything else tastes rancid

i like it black but i dunno why people get so upset when people have milk or sugar just drink what makes you happy :)

>>4990097
>implying I can't play solitaire, browse /ck/, smoke smokes, shop online, AND finish my workqueue errday

Nigga, you trippin

Cheap espresso machine I was offered.
An In my town there is a great famous local coffee roaster:
>Cafés Jeanne d'Arc
I put that in the machine
Shit is awesome

>>4990197
I'm pretty sure I'm the last hard worker on Earth

>Fresh ground, low acidity beans from Farmer's Market
>1 big teaspoon for every cup of coffee
>Piece of a cinnamon stick ground up with the beans
>Small pinch of kosher salt on top of the coffee grinds before brewing
>Filtered water (brita pitcher)
>Two teaspoons of cream, a teaspoon of sugar

I call it "Christmas Coffee." The girlfriend loves it.

>>4976124
Arabica for the win.

half of these aeropress heroes probably use robusta.

>>4990308
what are you on about
even the cheapest shit in most places is arabica
i dont ever see robusta for sale

>>4990327
More like you don't ever see robusta ADVERTISED for sale. Arabica is the premium stuff, but it's temperamental to grow; robusta is much hardier and more vigorous. You're getting some of it every time you buy coffee that doesn't say "100% arabica".
Not that that's necessarily an awful thing, though. There are plenty of robusta blends that taste very good, and at any rate it's that last 2% of the process-the difference isn't nearly as much as that made by proper roasting, proper cleaning, or a proper brew method.

>>4990358
I know all of that
Most coffee I see in supermarkets is 100% arabica
You're acting like you're the only dude who knows the secret that arabica is nicer but literally everyone drinks it.

>>4990358
Espresso requires a blend of beans. Robusta creates a better crema and body, but arabica creates a smoother flavour and reduced bitterness. This is why, by the way, 99% of coffeehouses in the US have absolutely horrid espresso: because Americans are obsessed with single-origin and/or 100% arabica now, not understanding that those are all well-and-good for some, but not all, applications. It's yet another example of Americans overdoing something. Unlike many other American endeavors, though, this one is a failure. Your small-op chocolates still surprise me from time to time, though, but Americans just can't into espresso.

>>4990394
like american beer
>HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS
>tastes like shit...
>MUST NEED MORE HOPS!!!!
>HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS HOPS
>still tastes like shit
>let's get some cool people to say it's good
>HUZZAH!!!!!
and that's the story of the american microbrew. if you can find an american microbrew that's not hopped to shit and back, it's actually really good.

Sweet, a coffee thread. My family has thing where we are assigned a family member to give a gift to. This year, I have my sister. She drinks the devil's brew(my parents are Mormon and coffee is forbidden lel) and she really just uses a French press to my knowledge. I know she likes to add milk to her coffee as well. What would be a good budget friendly gift to give? The gift exchange rules say that gift prices should have a limit of $40 but I'm willing to go a bit higher. I see the aero press and moka pot being thrown around in this thread, would those be good for a coffee pleb such as herself?

>>4990953

Good coffee beans or a BURR grinder (as opposed to a blade grinder) if she doesn't already have one.

>>4990953
I don't know how it is in the States, but something good and pleb as well that you can have cheaper for Christmas:
Nescafé dolce gusto, Senseo, Tassimo and the likes.

>>4990953
If she already has a brewing device she likes the best thing would be to get her a burr hand grinder like a Hario Slim Mill or Hario Skerton.

>>4990961
CONICAL BURR grinder is preferable over FLAT BURR grinder

good luck finding one for $40 though

>>4990953
If she has a French Press already, she can already make pretty good coffee. If you want to get her something coffee related for less than $40, get her a pound of ultra premium coffee such as Jamaican Blue Mountain or Kenya AA. Get it ground coarse for the French Press and It'll be something she will actually use and shouldn't run you more than $40.

>>4976124
Fuck yes.

>>4976302
>The entire apparatus heats up and scalds your brew, giving it a bitter taste.

your supposed to have it over pretty low heat though, its just supposed to trickle out the top

>>4976369

it sucks for you that you equate drinking starbucks with being hip.

>>4990160
I like my vietnamese coffee and I like this guy.

Just made myself latte

>>4992797
What is the appeal of drinking coffee that light? I don't want to get all purist on you, but even when I add milk I like it to be at least somewhat dark.

>>4992810

I'm not really a latte guy myself, but when I do drink them it's because it serves the dual function of breakfast and coffee. Milk contains vital nutrients such as protein and calcium, and often is also fortified with vitamin D.

>>4992810
tastes good

>>4992810
Not this guy.
I personally like your QUALITY black coffee a lot, the same way I enjoy really dark chocolate (99% dark)
But guess what? I looooove milk and having a latte every other days feels good.
Same goes for milk chocolate.

>>4992890

Sounds more like you can't handle manly things.

>>4992895
Sounds like you are too much a child to form your own opinion and accept other's , but rather prefer to use the basic clichés and act all autistic.

>>4992895

I can handle your dick if you want

>>4992900

Considering that you took the time to hunt down the accent for "cliche", the least you could have done was use the proper possessive plural. But what else would I expect from someone who ruins his coffee and chocolate with girl milk.

>>4992909
>Considering that you took the time to hunt down the accent for "cliche

seriously bro? you don't know what an accent aigu is?
what are they teaching you kids in school these days?

>>4992919

I wouldn't know, I graduated from college in 1998.

Please tell us the ASCII code for accent aigu. I know you're dying to let us know how you have it memorized.

>>4992922
>trade school

figures.

>>4992929

Actually no, one of the top 10 private colleges in the US. That's why I don't need to show off my "intellect" by memorizing useless computer trivia like ASCII codes for accented letters. Those who have don't need to boast ;)

Anyway off to work, so you have some time to work on your scathing response. I'll probably be checking 4chan on my phone later today when I go out for my post-lunch espresso.

>>4992934
>college
that's a polite word for tradeschool ya dingus.

>>4992810
You're confused by the minimized coffee, but that's because you're thinking primarily of the milk's influence on the coffee. You add your milk with the idea that you're altering the coffee. The latte isn't about altering the coffee though, it's about altering the milk. Milk is your base, coffee is the influence.

When I have time, which is just about never, I use my french press.
Most of the time, though, I drink yesterdays coffee made in the auto drip, heated in the microwave.

I really am not too proud...

I love coffee!

>>4992934
Holy shit you dumb nigger if you just press ctrl + alt with e it'll give you é. You don't need to memorise any ASCII code.

>>4992964
how do you not have 10 minutes
like 2 of that being the actual work

>>4992909
>Considering that you took the time to hunt down the accent for "cliche"
I'm French, nice try.
My English might not be perfect, but you sound like the typical uneducated brat.
>girl milk
I take my milk from the neighbours' cow, and from what I know her mannerism are better than yours.
It is indeed regrettable that you cannot enjoy different things just because of your silly preconceived "ideas".

>>4992983
I get up at 3:30am and am in my car by 3:50am. I don't ha I don't have time to babysit a kettle.

>>4993113
the american dream

>>4993117
Its not so bad. I get home at 2 in the afternoon everyday. Thats usually when I make my coffee hence why I have leftovers in the morning.

>>4993129
ok i'm going to assume you've adjusted your whole schedule around this. Work from 4-2, sleep by 8 kind of thing. It's not really an issue of being overworked, just being in a whacky timeslot.
So what's stopping you from waking up slightly earlier

>>4993136
You pretty much nailed my hours.
No matter how "used to" getting up that early I am, I'm just not a morning person. I stay in bed until the last possible second, hitting my snooze alarm about 6 times before I actually get out of bed.

>>4976113

I haven't had coffee in while, don't really miss it.

I tend to add spirits to mine, bit of alcohol is nice, I've tried whiskey, which is nice, brandy, other nice ones are Baileys, Tia Maria and Drambuie is delicious!

>>4993503
>baileys

What's a good grinder?

I have a Bodum Bistro that's starting to shit itself.

I'm willing to spend more but it look like the difference between $100 and, say, $300 isn't very big, and I'm not willing to spend $500+ on a coffee grinder.

>>4993617
I was going to buy pic related

yay or nay?

i want a burr grinder

>>4993643
ugly as fuck
nay

>>4993648
I thought it looked alright... you can get it in fluorescent orange also.

does it work any good? I heard positive reviews.

>>4993503
I could never stand alcohol in coffee. I'd much rather have my liquor straight or mixed with soda, coffee just clashes horribly with it.

Only coffee drinks that are somewhat good are weak-ass coffee liqueurs with 40g of sugar.

>>4993643
Check Baratza.

>>4993643
That's the one I have. Lasted me a good 18 months but the twist mechanism for the grind setting is starting to fail.

The only issues I had otherwise were a weak motor that overheats easy (if you grind big batches it could be an issue) and static on the grind, especially when it gets cold.

>>4993672
>orange
what the hell is wrong with you
and no i don't know how good that thing functions if I hate the design why would I go near it
go find reviews of it on coffeegeek

look for something like Anfim Best but not so pricy

>>4993705
already have.
too expensive and difficult to get hold of in the uk

>>4993756
ease off on the coffee bro

you're getting uppity

>>4993805
fuckers accusin me of wanting that shit in orange
fluorescent fuckin orange no less

show me your fucking coffee cups

>>4993818

>>4993818

>>4993818

>>4976152

>that feel when pushing the plunger in

>>4993818

>>4993818

>>4993818
love this little bugger. its in the shape of the mericans education system

2 shots jameson
2 table spoon brown sugar
Splash of vanilla
Splash of Bailey's
Rest of the cup coffee

That's my jam right there.

>>4993818
im proudest of my alton towers pint mug but i have a photo of this one already
pardon my rad pyjamas

>>4993818

>>4993857

neat

>>4993886
oooh its got a funny little hat

They turn into skeletons when there is hot coffee in it

>>4976113
I make my coffee however the fuck i make my coffee. It aint none of your goddamn business.

>>4993944
Confirmed for tea drinker.

I've been making Turkish coffee after dinner these days. Very different in terms of taste and texture from what I'm used to, but it's definitely enjoyable.

so it seems sub-200 espresso machines will consistently have a bad steam wand
so what to do people do instead, buy a portable steam wand or replace the thing

UPS just dropped this off like 10mins ago

>>4994115
My gf bought me one last XMas (not the Bodun brand). I've used it maybe 6 times and never really figured out how to make a good brew with it.

It was always too weak. I need to use it more and experiment with grind and amount.

>>4976113
This is the only one and true way to make coffee. All others are imposters and should be ashamed. I'm looking at you kuerig fags.

>>4994121
Fine filter grind. Make sure the water is at a good temperature before adding the grinds. Give it about 90 seconds. Two agitations. Try a metal filter if you want more body.

>>4976327 and >>4993857 here

>>4994115

Siphon pot master race

>>4994146
moka makes bad coffee

just saying

>>4994157
What do you mean by "two agitations"?

>>4994240

STIR IT TWICE

>>4994243
>agitation
Agitation =/= stir, but thanks for the advice.

Also, are there and vacuum pots that do not use metal filters?

>>4994261
Yeah, mine uses this cool textured glass filter. Cleans up like a dream

>>4993821
>>4993839
>>4993845
>>4993857
>>4993864
>>4993867
>>4993881
>>4993886

>show me your fucking coffee cups

>every single person posts a fucking mug

Do they teach English in US public schools?

>>4994326
The difference is literally how the base is shaped. Get the fuck over yourself eurocrat.

>>4994328

The base of a cup is shaped to fit into the matching saucer. If it doesn't come with a saucer, it's not a cup. A cup is also smaller as it is meant for serving coffee. You don't drink coffee out of gigantic barrel-shaped object. I'm not even European. I'm fairly certain that every educated person outside of the US knows what a cup is.

>>4994354
mugs are the classic office-coffee / rural-american container, you european fuck

>>4994354
>If it doesn't come with a saucer, it's not a cup.
Where did you find this definition.

>>4994354
So red solo cups come with a saucer? Good to know.

>>4994326
this fucking guy

>>4994354
11/10

>>4994432
Not the cheap shit from Wal-Mart.

You gotta get the good red cups with saucers at Target.

>>4994427

http://www.corellecorner.com/glossary.html

>>4994457
>What To Expect From This Site
I have been a dedicated collector of Corelle, Pyrex and Corning Ware since 2005, and whenever I can, I enjoy adding Centura and MacBeth-Evans products to my collection too. This website is a personal project, and its purpose is to compile original research and to share solid factual information.

c-c-c-c-c-cool source, how long did that take to find?

I have a Keurig Mini. Its great, it makes a single cup of coffee wicked quick and fits in my tiny apartment. The coffee pods for it are kind of expensive, like $0.50 USD, but they come in loads of flavours and taste good enough.

>>4994432

A plastic beverage container is not a cup. No civilized person would drink from any kind of plastic "cup."

>>4994476
Too bad they're fucking called cups, you ninny.

Your source is shit.

>>4976302

espresso machine > french press > pourover > aeropress > all those others

>>4992922
>Please tell us the ASCII code for accent aigu.

C'est sur mon clavier. Je peux l'appuyer directement.

>>4994465

We have a big Keurig machine at work. I wasn't too impressed with the taste and even less with the price for each pod.

My solution was to get a refillable pod and grind a small batch of coffee each morning to use at work. It still doesn't compare to a fresh espresso but it's a marked improvement.

You guys...
This is the best way to make coffee.
Never a bad cup, never any wasted.
One bag, one 8 ounce cup of cold water and 1 minute and 30 seconds in the microwave.
Perfectly controlled heat transfer via radiation, always exactly measured coffee, DIGITALLY FUCKING TIMED, and coffee, unlike it's gay cousin tea, does not need to expand during brewing so a mesh bag is perfect for brewing.
Go back to brewing your swill in a tin cup over a campfire on Busted Oh-Ring Mountain if it makes you feel your homosexuality isn't an issue but I'll enjoy a simple, and modern, pleasure when I want a cup of coffee.