/ck/ - Food & Cooking

My family frequently hosted foreign exchange students throughout my highschool years

MOST kids in the 90s generation can't cook.

>>5500208
;_; that's bleak, man.
I mean I think people are all awesome no matter what, but like

you need to learn how to at least make basic stuff!

>>5500213
woudln't it be nice?
But sadly in our generation most kids put it as something beneath them.
Why waste time 'prepping ingredients' when there are box mixes that have everything I need in one!

I know your pain but it is what it is.

it's probably the same way all over the world and i doubt its just a recent thing

some people just don't have the time and inclination to cook, especially when its so easy and convenient to get ready made food

my family and i eat out practically all the time because my parents are too tired to slave over a hot stove after coming home from work and i learnt how to cook from the internet and a lot of trial and error

Yeah, it's pretty common for people to not know how to cook in the US. Most parents can't teach their kids, because they themselves don't know. And for some reason, most people have virtually no interest in learning. "Oh, I can't cook, I'm so terrible at it!" is something you hear pretty regularly, like it's fashionable to be ignorant about cooking.

>>5500228
Only in the 1st world I imagine.

>>5500233
Seriously I never got it. I understand some people are too busy to learn sometimes, but it doesn't take much to fry or boil a simple egg, or maybe even just cook some dry pasta!

a lot of people can't even do that, and that's just disappointing in my opinion.

>>5500228
I understand that some people don't enjoy slaving for hours over a hot stove, but it only takes about 7 minutes to boil pasta and it takes under 5 minutes to pan fry or grill a rare steak. For breakfast it takes about 6 minutes to soft boil and egg, and about 1 or 2 minutes to fry or scramble them, and a lot of people can't even do that!

>>5500233
That sounds familiar. Let me try something.

>Yeah, it's pretty common for people to not know how to do math in the US. Most parents can't teach their kids, because they themselves don't know. And for some reason, most people have virtually no interest in learning. "Oh, I can't do math, I'm so terrible at it!" is something you hear pretty regularly, like it's fashionable to be ignorant about basic arithmetic.

>>5500192
Because the governments and corporations are trying to build a society of dependence! If you can't fight the hand the feeds you.

>>5500294
Yes, sadly this is also true

>>5500299
It's called harmonization. And yes, most of us know advanced math.

You are on an American website based on math aren't you?

It's a post-WW2 convenience society thing. Also a healthy dash of feminism -- a liberated woman shouldn't need to spend hours in the kitchen SLAVING AWAY like a SERF. Just pull the TV dinner out of the freezer and hey presto!

In my own personal experience, I know very few people who don't cook for themselves/claim to not be able to cook. There are certainly varying levels of skill amongst my peers, with most being somewhere around a vague standard of adequate and few being a bit deluded as to how well they can prepare certain dishes, but then I suppose no one is good at everything.

For reference, I am a 30 year old Masshole and several generationth amerifat.

>>5500309
>most of us know advanced math
That's not true of any country, but America is doing worse than most, ranking near the bottom of OECD countries for numeracy. My point was more that learning itself seems to be unfashionable.

>>5500220

Out of curiosity, and assuming you're making this assumption based on an assessment of your peers, which region do you live in and to which generation do you belong?

I was unable to cook anything last night. Had to settle for boxed breakfast cereal.

I think it was because of the power failure.

Do power failures make us stupid?

I dunno about everywhere else but I know that they dissolved Home Ec classes before I was even in high school or junior high or middleschool. I suspect that this is more or less a nationwide phenomenon. My parents subsequently blame this decision for nobody in my generation knowing how to cook. I became a cook out of necessity, because my roomates in college were slobs who could subsist on diets entirely composed of "chicken bakes" and "bagel dogs" whereas I know that real food doesn't come individually wrapped.

My personal experience? My parents got pregnant not long before graduating high school. They spent most of my childhood working, then going to school and working, then working again. I'm 23 and even now my dad will work 24 or 36 hour shifts. I think right now he's entitled to eat what he wants when he gets home.

But working isn't the reason they eat like shit. They're also lazy and don't really care about themselves enough to make more than a salad every now and then. A home cooked meal for me growing up was either tacos, spaghetti, and tuna patties. Throughout high school it was frozen pizza, tacos, and french fries. They never bothered to really teach me anything. Cooking or otherwise. Almost everything we ate came with instructions. Anything else I attempted on my own. Except for a cousin who taught me to cook scrambled eggs. Both of my grandmothers had domestic skills and would let me help stir things and shit but neither really taught me anything either.

The excuse I sometimes see is poverty. We were white trash when I was a kid. We lived in trailer parks, used dish soap in the bath, were infested with roaches, mice, and lice. After they went to school and got better jobs we eventually bumped up to lower middle class. Though our eating habits remained the same. My parents, my mother especially, like to live beyond their means and the area that took the budget cut was usually food.

So my answer would be laziness, not thinking/caring about the future, things like that. Which you could also apply to math, reading, or learning in general. I think the common complaint I heard in math class was why do they need to learn skills they'll never use. That attitude might apply to somethings, but a lot of people can't even figure out what their 20% tip would be without a calculator.

Talking to my mother and a few other people has led me to conclude there was a weird generational gap. My grandmother learned all the homemaking skills as would be expected when she was a girl but she was a working mother when that time came around for her own daughters. She had no interest in teaching them, meaning it was easy for them to have no interest in learning. Home-Ec, along with the various Trade Educations, started to be killed off at this point.

My mom lamented this gap in her knowledge that become more and more clear when she had her own children and started trying to look after us. We were pretty darn white-trash in our eating habits because she had a hard time doing better.. but she eventually forced herself to do better and (most importantly) taught us kids that there were better options when we were still of a formative age. Now we can all cook basic things and handle produce and meat. Even more importantly we can all grasp recipes in that we know how to follow them and how to modify them when needed.

A lot of my peers had the same situations at home but never had that extra effort put in. Cooking will remain a lost art to them until they take those steps on their own.

>>5500650
It's the same with computer programming. I had to learn that on my own, no family there, just the desire to learn and discipline, so when some cunt sais, I need more than minimum wage, I say fuck you cunt. Learn something useful or piss the fuck off.

It'll be a cold day in hell before I throw something in their shit tip jar.

>>5500192
why are you such a stuck up namefagging cunt?

I honestly don't think I've learned anything from my "white" side of the family. My grandma was basically a drunk/partier in her youth so my Mom had to take care of her siblings but can really only make spaghetti and meatloaf. My Aunt used to cook but she's also an alcoholic and only cooked before I was even born. My Native side that moved off the Rez and actually made something of themselves makes god-tier food though.
>tfw self taught due to lack of cooking skills in imnediate family and won't have any recipes passed down to you

>>5500699
oh man! I guess I hadn't changed my thing since the casual cooking competiton.

has my name been showing up in all my posts??

Also, don't be rude, friend, I just asked a simple question. I was taught most everything about cooking since the age of 9, so it's very weird for me to see people who can't even fry a simple egg.

>>5500192
>Why are there still people in this world who can't even cook the most basic things?

Hey, man, chill. I was like this 3 weeks ago. I've since learned to cook fried chicken, spaghetti and meatballs with sauce from scratch, cook rice without burning it, make mac n cheese using real cheese, beef wellington, perfect medium rare steak...

well the steak ive been doing for much longer tehn 3 weeks.

I think the answer is people think cooking is harder then it actually is.

>>5500713
native? what is that?
Apparently the only thing that you've learned is how to game the system for money that other people earn.

>>5500715
while i think cooking and useful skills like sewing should be as mandatory as 11-12 years of math, english and science the fact is its not. Just because they werent taught either in school or by their parents doesnt meant you should be so fucking condescending. You'd probably get a lot better response and encourage a lot more people to learn if you werent such a stuck up cunt about it and framed your posts in a better light

>>5500725
I actually agree. Thankfully I have the Dean of an Arts college for my uncle, my dad's the first Navajo biochemist and now runs a statewide organization that helps underprivileged kids get into STEM programs. But other than that my other Rez family (10 other Aunts and Uncles) really haven't done shit. And their kids don't do shit but have more kids and get thrown in jail.
>Sad but true

>>5500752
I feel you, id be super proud of my cherokee heritage if it wasnt 2014

>>5500728
Dude. It's 4chan. Why should I give a shit if my goal in a post is just to be straightforward and ask a question?

Also, I'm not talking about people who can't make elaborate meals, I'm talking about people who can't even fry a simple egg or boil water.

There comes a point where you can't excuse that.

>>5500772
>where you can't excuse that.

what does that even mean

>>5500780

There's no reason to be so incapable that you can't fry an egg or boil water.

>>5500780
you can't excuse someone for their inability to fry an egg or boil water

>>5500759
>>5500759
My Mom's also half Klamath (but she looks super white and wasnt raised with her dad) and her dad's family is fucked up. Her dad was murdered in a bar fight and her uncle killed his parents then took a shotgun to some people are dairy queen. He was thrown in jail and died after drinking isopropyl alcohol.
>we don't acknowledge they exist

>>5500786
a good amount of my friends are unable to do even that.

Some of them have even burned those cup ramen noodle things. It's a real problem, man.

>>5500787
great hyperbole such job

>>5500752
That makes you native, like you were born here? So was I so were my great grand parents. Fact is, you came over from a land bridge, you're not fucking native, so get the fuck out of town or does the truth disgust you?

Maybe no more reason for government money?
That's gonna hurt.

>>5500798
how is it a hyperbole if it's true? A lot of housewives in my neighborhood have to feed their kid cereal and microwave dinners because they literally do not know how to fry an egg or boil water

a good amount of my friends can't do those things either.

Also the doge meme is really overdone and I recommend not doing it ever again, thank you.

>>5500818

Cereal isn't that bad for breakfast. I just about survived off it when I was a little schoolbound shit.

>>5500825
it's okay every once a while but you can't eat that sort of stuff every day, especially if it's sugary, which most cereals are.

>>5500816
>>/r9k/

>>5500319
The problem is when women leave the kitchen *most* sent competent in culinary arts to replace them

>>5500828

I remember a disproportionate amount of Honey Bunches of Oats. My mother had a rule about picking cereal; no more than 12g (I think?) of sugar per serving.

XXXX: A Roman general once said, "If you want peace, plan for war."

>>5500834
Man, that still has some not very healthy stuff in there.

Sugar isn't good for you, true, but honey bunches of oats still used processed corn and corn oil, which is really bad for you considering the shit ton of preservatives they throw in corn (not even gonna mention GMO's because that argument will take forever). They also contain Veggie and Canola oil, both of which are polyunsaturated fats which, if eaten constantly, can be really bad for you as well, as the oils are grossly processed compared to other oils/fats.

>>5500192
This is a serious issue. I blame womens liberation for telling women they dont have to be home makers anymore, while not successfully delivering the message that women that arent home makers should get jobs instead of sitting at home and doing nothing. The other error was everyone confusing, 'dont have to be homemakers anymore" with dont need to learn basic life skills.

My wife cant cook unless the thing comes out of a box with directions on it. And she has a college education.... The state of american women today is appauling and i blame feminism.

All of the best cooks i know today are males. And ourkids are sufering because mom is no longer passing on important life skills to them.

>>5500842
look at ambitan the nutritionist

fuck off bitch

>>5500846
you married the dumb bitch
fault is on you

>>5500864
look, I'm not trying to be mean, It's just stuff that's harmful for your body that you don't necessarily have to eat 24/7.

Eating it in moderation's totally fine, but having it all the time really isn't good for you. I don't wanna sound rude, I'm just a little concerned is all.

If you don't want to agree with me, though, that's completely a-ok, friend!

>>5500869
I love her. Shes 10/10 on looks. 11/10 in bed and makes 120k a year. I also love cooking so its not that important for her to cook.

But my fault that all women suck at cooking these days compared to their mothers... No. Soory. As much as id love to accept responsibility, i cannot.

>>5500291
ok yeah but when you're part of a family you gotta factor in setting the table and doing the dishes and feeding everyone

there are more factors than just cook-time

not saying that makes it more excusable but it's not just about cooking time

>>5500966

If you are part of a family.... Then there are more people to help out. 10 minutes of work from 4 people is 40 people minutes.

Turn the kids into table setters, and hubby into a sous chef...

Lazy idiots and their excuses these days...

>>5500228
>my parents are too tired to slave over a hot stove after coming home from work
>too tired

They're morbidly obese, aren't they?

>>5500846
i've noticed this. i absolutely love to cook and when i mention i'm passionate about cooking on a date women get really defensive and suspicious and even brag about how they don't cook, like i'm trying to trick them into becoming the Mrs. Draper from Mad Men or something.

>>5500228
>>5500291

>slave over a hot stove

I hate, hate, HATE this expression. Unless you are somehow disabled, basic cooking is neither difficult nor tedious. People who think that cooking is hard or overly time-consuming are likely lazy fools.

>>5501195
>tfw one of my dreams is to live a life similar to Mrs. Drapers (like minus the cheating and stuff)

I'd love to cook for my family and take care of kids and stuff all day, that's literally sounds so awesome!

>>5501218
>tfw i have no feeling in my torso because all the blood has gone to my dick

>>5501223
shes probably a dog m8

>>5500816
go back to /pol/ you angry whitey

>>5500842
>my diet consists solely of organic kale and tofu

That's because of the microwaves and fast food.

I had a roommate who would bring food from his home every week and just microwave that shit.

I couldn't get it. How lazy have you be to bring already boiled spaghetti? Microwaved food tastes like shit.

>>5501227
I don't think I'm that ugly!! I'd post a picture but I can't because I kind of promised to keep visual anonymity for a thread I'm doing on /b/, and they already know I'm the OP of this thread!

>>5501237
dude. I just made a thread on hot chocolate and I had like a huge thread on how I made 3 different steak recipes in 2 days

also kale tastes like llama ass

>>5500192
I agree, most people can't cook beyond the most basic shit (boxed mac'n'cheese).

As a 'murkkkin, I feel I can cook alright. I'm not creating recipes or anything, but I can look at what I have in the cupboards and fridge and make something decent most of the time.

>>5501257
this thread is really crowded. You wanna get out of here?

>>5501297
Yeah, can we go fuck somewhere? I got an itch that needs scratching and I guess you'll do.

>>5501195
>brag about how they dont cook

Women are all fucking retarded these days.

Feminism taught them that it is ok to not have basic life skills because a man shouldn't expect them to have basic life skills.

You can be a lawyer or doctor femanon! You wont need to know how to do anything else in life if you can just get you degree!

>>5501297
I WAS REALLY CONFUSED FOR A SECOND BECAUSE I WAS LIKE

fuck man this thread isn't crowded at all have you been to /b/?

but then I was like

oh shit wait that's like
what people say in reallly crowded bars when they wanna get laid

damn. that was a good one m8. props. If you weren't an anonymous stranger dude on the internet I'd totally high five you and I'd give you some of the strawberry marshmallows I made

American, we always cooked 'real food' growing up and I cook a lot know. Different recipes from different cultures, etc. However, I will say most people I know only know how to cook boring shit and just make spaghetti and sandwiches all the time or cannot cook at all and just eat fast food.

I grew up being taught how to cook and eventually learned basic shit for myself. I don't really understand why people glamorize not being able to cook. So many friends of mine in/out of college always brag about how bad they are and that they constantly have to get takeout. Honestly, I feel embarrassed for them. It's a basic life skill everyone should have. Everyone should know how to make a fried egg, fried rice, steam vegetables, or even cook a damn piece of meat. Even if you aren't a top tier master chef, you can at least master recipes.

I enjoy cooking for myself and others. I like to clean my apartment and have meals ready every day for myself and my partner. It's not hard to do and I don't think it takes a lot of time out of my day. These people "slaving" over stoves are either making ridiculously extravagant meals, or do 0 planning. Cooking involves a lot of standing around doing jack shit if you're oven cooking, baking, roasting, braising, etc. I use that time to fold laundry, do new loads, work, go to magic events, go to uni, and cosplay.

time management isn't hard, you just have to not be a fuck nut

>>5500192
I grew up being taught how to cook and eventually learned basic shit for myself. I don't really understand why people glamorize not being able to cook. So many friends of mine in/out of college always brag about how bad they are and that they constantly have to get takeout. Honestly, I feel embarrassed for them. It's a basic life skill everyone should have. Everyone should know how to make a fried egg, fried rice, steam vegetables, or even cook a damn piece of meat. Even if you aren't a top tier master chef, you can at least master recipes.

I enjoy cooking for myself and others. I like to clean my apartment and have meals ready every day for myself and my partner. It's not hard to do and I don't think it takes a lot of time out of my day. These people "slaving" over stoves are either making ridiculously extravagant meals, or do 0 planning. Cooking involves a lot of standing around doing jack shit if you're oven cooking, baking, roasting, braising, etc. I use that time to fold laundry, do new loads, and post on ck and other boards

time management isn't hard, you just have to not be a fuck nut

>>5501420
Same for me. I grew up watching my mother cook great meals and then learned for myself, it wasn't always great food at the start but after a while you start to master it. I can cook a good 50 basic meals now without any repices because it's stuff I do on a daily basis.

Seasoning meat, fry eggs, making omelettes, cook rice/pasta, making a nice salad etc. It's basic stuff pretty much everyone should know. My girlfriend was impressed when I cooked for her and she's also a great cook (learned from her mother). I make a terrific tiramisu. Honestly, I couldn't be with someone who wouldn't know how to cook, this is a really important skill for most people in the Southern Europe/Mediterranean area I believe, we like to eat great food whether at noon or in the evening.

>>5500192
Well I kinda agree.I'm a girl btw (inb4 tits) I'm from a poor family and my mother taught me how to cook basic shit when I was small. I don't know how to bake or cook amazing steaks but I know how to prepare a good meal, rice, do eggs, soups, fish and etc.

>They're supposed to be easy and I'm even ashamed that that's all I knew
>Then I got in a university
>FTW My female classmates knows nothing about cooking
> Looks up to me because I'm responsible
> According to them Doing Groceries= Responsible

Hey bitches, it's not supposed to be a huge deal

>>5500360
I guess this is an excuse if you have power failures every...single...day....?

>>5501217

yeah this times a million

most people think cooking takes a large amount of time because they can't cook properly and they dont have knife skills, so they take 5 minutes to chop up a single onion, and they put everything into a cold pan and then turn the heat up, as well as overcooking all their meals so it takes even more time

>>5501645
Where the fuck do you live, nigeria or some shit? Even our US bases in Iraq and Afghanistan can do better than that.

>>5500192
It's not just America op. I knew a fatasfatass girl in school over a decade ago who didn't know how to turn on her stove/oven.
I was so confused, I asked her what she ate and she said take out. I was still confused. I have no idea how it would be physically possible to eat take out every day.

>>5500787

excuse them from what?

I've spent a semester in the US and I've noticed there's alot of people who survive by never cooking. As an university student here it is almost impossible to live by take outs and pre-made meals so most people can cook atleast the very hasics (frying meat, cooking pasta). I was very surprised to meet people not even able to make a salad.

It's a difference in culture I guess but we learned basic cooking in school, if not from our parents, so it's very weird to see people completely unfamiliar with how to use a stove.

>>5501661
You misunderstand me. I'm saying that being unable to cook due to a power failure is only valid excuse if it's happening every day. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the meaning of that anons post, though.

>>5501711

i still don't understand this "valid excuse" shit

like there is a reason something happens

cause and effect

are you trying to determine whether or not they deserve a stoning?

>>5501719
No. A valid excuse for not being able to cook or not cooking...

Like, I couldn't cook my food because the power was out and couldn't use the stove so I ate a box of cereal.

That is a "valid excuse" because it's not like you can say "well why didn't you just use the microwave?" or "why didn't you just use the stove anyways?"

I simply don't know any other way of expressing what the term "valid excuse" means...

>>5501727

i know what it means, but what makes you believe that people who don't know how to cook need an excuse?

if the fact that they can't cook is inexcusable, from what are they not excused? ridicule? a slap in the face? refusal to help them learn, or an opportunity to learn?

i know what "valid excuse" means

but in this case it was just used to express frustration toward people who don't know how to cook, without any real meaning behind it.

I'm not one of those racists against mixing or something, but that's a huge part of why the US has more people who can't cook. I stayed with a family of lardasses (I love them, but it's true) one summer and saw this first hand. Also saw it in my own family 1 gen removed.

>Italian wife
>German Husband
>wife only knows how to cook italian
>husband only wants german
>they end up eating only the few common foods between the two, since in the age before internet there was no way for the Italian wife to learn a lifetime of traditional german recipes
>both culinary traditions are lost as the husband refuses to cook at all and the wife doesn't have an attachment to the german food she has to make, and thus doesn't teach it to the kids

>Russian/Jewish wife
>Italian/Goyim husband
>same thing happens- husband won't eat any "jew food" and won't cook so she just makes bland shit out of boxes every day

ausfag here, i'vve been helping in the kitchen since i was 3. lately i haven't been cooking as much as i used to because of illness but i do miss it as it's a lot of fun. makes me sad to know there are people who will never experience the joy of a home-cooked meal they made themselves. It fills me with pride when I sit down to eat a meal I created from scratch and it tastes really good. my friends think i am mad for going to all that trouble to make my own food, i think they're mad for living off shitty ramen and microwave rubbish.

>>5501749
Hmm, I see what you mean now, good point.

>>5501764
if he won't eat "jew food" why'd he even marry a Jewish lady?

>>5500846
word, to the hell with women.
want some homosex?

>>5501794
Because everything about her was fucking awesome? Maybe she is 10/10 and shares his weird obscure fetish that nobody else has. Maybe they get along 100% perfectly besides the food thing... many reasons, dude.

i'm a woman and i know haw to cook

>>5501809
yeah me too. i was learning from a young age because my mother and my sister both enjoyed it. my sister worked as a chef from 15 years old and her love of cooking rubbed off on me. my mother takes cooking tips from me now we have internet at home, i yell at her for not following the recipes.

hi, i'm a girl too! :)

>>5501856
omg like me too!!

>>5501195
>when i mention i'm passionate about cooking on a date women [...] even brag about how they don't cook
At which point the objective of the evening becomes "how soon can I never see this person again", right?

>>5501809
>>5501817
>>5501856
>>5501868
I'll be the judge of that

>>5503661
http://208.117.3.31:8050/

>>5501764
>only wants german
there barely is any german cuisine
bavarian maybe

>Roomate's electric kettle breaks
>"Anon how will I boil water now?!"
>Shes never boiled water in a pot ever
>I literally had to show her
Watching her cook was so bizarre, it was like some McGyver ass shit, she'd boil water in the electric kettle and put ramen into it and everything

I can only assume she wasn't allowed to use the stove??

Not even gonna delve into her actual eating habits

>>5503875
pls delve

>>5503875
she put ramen into the kettle, or she put ramen in a pot and poured the boiling water over it?
because the latter makes some sense, given it takes more electricity to boil a pot of water than a kettle, due to heat loss from the design

>>5503876
Ok well first off, naturally she put ranch on everything but she was really creative with it, tacos, pizza, steak, perogies basically any dinner you could imagine. But for the most part she just eats ramen, once a week she'll buy something frozen in bulk and eat nothing else breakfast lunch and dinner till she runs out. She did this with chicken strips, salmon and perogies that I know of. Shes always complaining about how shes so depressed about what she eats and I try to teach her stuff but she just plays dumb so that I end up doing everything myself.
I know theres a lot more outlandish stuff but I'm so used to it I dont even bat an eye anymore

>>5503882
She put it inside the kettle at first but when her kettle broke she started boiling water in a pot and pouring it onto the ramen (Its the kind youre suppossed to put into the boiling water) so I said why dont you just put it into the pot? and she said she didnt know she could (what?)

>>5503882
>not having a gas hob.

>>5503892
gas is even more expensive, at least where I live

>>5503875

>"Anon how will I boil water now?!"

What the actual fuck. How can you not know how to boil water?

>>5503903
Fuck I laughed at that gif
She was literally so exasperated she got mad when I laughed

>>5503893
That sucks, cooking on gas I'd so much better in my experience, but maybe I've only used shitty ranges. I've herd electric ovens are a lot nicer

>>5500476

I've never been so happy that home-ec was compulsory for 2 years at my school. Teacher taught us how to cook basic shit and do basic sewing.

>teamspeak session
>buddy joins (he recently moved out and joined the airdforce)
>hey guys how do i make a fried egg?
We still make fun of him because of that but he's an allright cook by now.

>>5500713
>>tfw self taught due to lack of cooking skills in imnediate family and won't have any recipes passed down to you

That's OK. Just think, now you'll be the wise old one who passes family recipes down to your children and other family.

>>5500366
>they dissolved Home Ec classes before I was even in high school or junior high or middleschool

Not that I agree with this sentiment but I think a lot of that came from parental pressure under the guise of home-ec, shop, etc. detract from time better spent for college/career prep. You now have parents in a blind panic because they are worried their kindergartners are "falling behind' and their college opportunities are being limited or endangered. It's absurd, but there is at least a certain class or segment of society that actually believes and worries about this kind of shit.

>>5500192
How do you get the upper whites so done while retaining such a yellow yolk?

Every meal my siblings and I were forced to help cook at least one side dish or something by my mom. As a young kid I hated it but I've learned to appreciate it as an older guy now. I live by myself and can make full delicious meals just by memory. it's excellent.