/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>5606872
>Did I just choose bad restaurant

Extremely likely.

>>5606879
How do I find good sushi restaurant?

I've been to more shit restaurants than simply mediocre ones, lets put it this way.

Well, what didn't you like about it?

Where do you live?

Also

>puke at home

if this is true it wasn't food poisoning, you guys are just neurotic

>>5606904
>if this is true it wasn't food poisoning,
It can take several hours to come up depending on the type of bacteria and other factors.

If you puked, it was bad sushi.

>>5606902
It just tasted so bad, like if it was plastic. I didn't smell fish and it didn't taste fishy, which is one of the main symptom of bad sushi as I read.

>5606907
I'm from Czech Republic

>>5606899
You gotta eat around. There's no hard and fast and I wouldn't trust anybody's opinion but your own. Even the most knowledgeable sushi conessiers no jack all about it and as such seeing reviews online mean jack all (if someone praises the fish for being especially fresh it's a dead giveaway that they know absolutely nothing).

The best sushi I've ever had comes from a place, a little hole in the wall, that mainly does business doing deliveries. I'm usually the only person in there when I go even though they have a pretty big sushi bar. The worst I've ever had was from a chinese buffet, and even that wasn't pukingly bad, it was just steamed veggies in the wrong kind of rice left sitting out too long.

In short, try new places 'till you find one you like. Go for places that, generally, cook other good food as well. The place where I've had the best sushi also has the best pot stickers, fried rice, and miso soup I've ever had.

>>5606910
If it tasted bad, then that was bad sushi.

>> I didn't smell fish and it didn't taste fishy, which is one of the main symptom of bad sushi as I read.
No, you got it backwards.
Most types of resh fish doesn't smell like much of anything at all.

If fish smells, its probably bad.

>>5606912
>>The worst I've ever had was from a chinese buffet

There is no sushi at chinese buffets.

>>5606872
>Did I just choose bad restaurant or it seriously can taste that disguistingly bad?

How are we supposed to know? Did we eat the sushi with you? You don't specify what you at, what price range, I really don't know what you're hoping to achieve with this thread.

A very good indicator of if the sushi in a restaurant is good, is if there are japanese customers eating there.

In the West, this is probably your best bet for whether its quality or not.

>>5606915

Buffets have Sushi in big cities.

sounds like you got a shit restaurant. look around for popular places, busy restaurants 9/10 mean good food

That is if you can tell the difference from Chinese and Japanese. A lot of the japanese left in 2008.

>sushi restaurant opened pretty close to me some time ago
>I live in rural Norway so sushi is a foreign thing to people here
>always wanted to try sushi
>girlfriend always wanted to try sushi
>we're going there soon to celebrate our 3 whole months woah anniversary
I'm pretty hype, what should I expect? I've heard the sushi there's pretty good, so I kinda expect it to be good.

>>5606981

You guys eat a ton of pickled fish, right? Imagine that, but less pickle and dill and rice instead of dark rye bread.

>>5606997
>You guys eat a ton of pickled fish, right?
No. But I can imagine what you mean.

>>5606981
It's hard to say really. When people say sushi doesn't have much flavor they're not lying. A peice of sushi has less intense flavor than, say, a chile pepper or smoked meat or pickled anything. But it's really about the subtlety, the intricacies of the flavors. A good peice of fatty tuna is like a good olive oil. It's savory and subtle, something that gets you on a chemical level more so than a taste you can describe. It's also about how the flavors interact. The rice has a light vinegaryness to it and for whatever reason this brings out something close to sweetness in fish. And more than anything it's about texture. Nothing is better than sushi in that department. Sushi is magical in a way. A good piece should be firm, solid, well built, but the moment you put it into your mouth it just melts away.

It's truly an eating experience unlike any other. Too subtle to be properly described.

>>5607010
i just dip it in soy sauce. So everything has the same flavor but different texture.

>>5607010
Sounds pretty good. I'm looking forward to it, hopefully it'll be something we can do again.
It's probably going to cost a shitton, though. Oh well.

>>5606872
I eat sushi nearly every work day because its really cheap where I live, fairly healthy, and taste great. You obviously had sushi done by a crap chef that was probably old. But I also don't believe you threw up.

>btw did i mention my gurlfrend

>>5607047
Please get some pussy so we don't have to see your bitching

Why do you always eat bad sushi?
Why do you not eat delicious nigiri sushi?

>>5607059
Because the only sushi places near me are run by koreans.

>>5607010
>But it's really about the subtlety, the intricacies of the flavors.
This. If you're a sushi novice with high expectations you can be easily disappointed, because you're going out for an expensive meal expecting to be wowed, and if the place is really good the experience will be a subtle one.

How do you deal with this?

You can always just order a beer and a bunch of American style rolls. These are designed to appeal to Western tastes. If you want something closer to a traditional sushi experience, have deeps pockets and KNOW you can trust the fish do this: Sit at the bar. Order a bunch of nigiri. Get a variety - some light tasting ones, as well as some fatty ones. Do not bother with soy sauce or wasabi. Don't even bother with chopsticks. Start with the less fatty nigiri, popping each piece into your mouth whole. (Lean your head back a little while you do this). Many prefer to put fish side down, so that hits your tongue first. End with the fattier fish.

If you have serious money to blow, and are completely sure you can trust the chef just order omakase. This means you will get the best he has to offer that day. You will also pay dearly for this, so if you're not sure sushi is your thing, and/or you're less than certain the chef is properly qualified this might not be the option for you.

>>5607017
I've been slowly breaking my soy sauce habit on sushi because I feel like I'm not getting the full experience of the meal.

It's tough because I really love soy sauce

>>5607155
>im not doing what i love because weeb faggots online to,d me to do something else

These people...

If you are talking about the rolls, then try having a fried one next time. Be experimental. Don't forget to ask for sauces, wasabi, and ginger (if they have).

>>5607172
I know right. There's nothing wrong with a dab of soy sauce on the fish side of a nigiri sushi.

>>5607316
>There's nothing wrong with a dab of soy sauce on the fish side of a nigiri sushi.
There's nothing wrong with it, but full strength soy sauce can easily overwhelm the more delicate fishes. And since the experience you're paying for is subtlety it kind of defeats the point. If you want to dunk something in soy sauce why not save a substantial chunk of change by just picking up some California rolls at the supermarket?

a question about sushi, you're supposed to dip the fish part (in nigiri at least) into the soy sauce, so how do you guys do it? i usually just dip the rice part cause it's easier.

>>5607354
I almost always buy rolls since they're cheaper, but anytime I order nigiri I'll dip the fish end in so I can control how much soy sauce I get, since I feel like dipping the rice in will absorb more sauce than I actually want.

>>5607354
You're supposed to dip the fish end in it. The soy sauce ends up separating the individual grains and you're liable to absorbing too much of the soy sauce when you're dipping using the rice end.

>>5607354
Invert the sushi. Hold it with three fingers - one on each side and one holding the fish to the rice. Dab just the corner of the fish in the sauce.

Do not put wasabi in your soy sauce. You'll just look like an asshole.

Eat the pickled ginger between pieces of sushi to cleanse your palate.

>not eating torisashi only

yes that's chicken...

>>5607388
the only thing you dip is sashimi unless you want to look like a faggot

14 bucks (1400 yen) sushi in Japan.

>>5606872
My first sushi experience was like that, i tried a horrible sushi and then said i didnt liked sushi, a few years later my sis takes me to a good sushi restaurant and now i love it

>>5607394
>raw chicken

>>5607415
is perfectly safe when handled and sourced properly, you probably eat well done steak too

>>5607331
Who says im paying for subtlty you fucking prick. Its my money. If i want to go to a high end sushi restaurant and drink soy sauce with my onigiri then that isnt up to you is it?

And it doesnt defeat the purpose. My palate is so refined that i can taste the difference between where a fish was caught and what phase the moon was on when its heart stopped beating - while chugging full sodium sontent soy sauce.

I feel sorry for you faggots that cant enjoy a little soy sauce with their fish because their measly taste buds are straining so hard to detect insignificant flavor profiles of fish they know nothing about.

This is like wine culture but far more retarded.

>>5607410
The quality of fish in japan is probably a 100% times better then any place in the world.

>>5607704
it would obviously depend on the fish, also

>100% times

>Chinese restaurant that constantly closes and reopens under a different name now has a sushi conveyor belt
>go there for all you can eat sushi
>it's really danged good
>not used to eat from belt so eat extremely fast
>eat too much and stomach hurts

Going to go there again some time soon though, it was really good. And very surprising for just, I don't know, 12 Euros.

>>5607172

yeah, you misunderstand.

would you say the same thing to someone trying to break a drinking habit because he feels like he's not getting the full experience of life, but it's tough because he really likes booze?

>>5606872
My family avoids any sort of undercooked foods like the plague (including steaks under well-done or burnt) and I've wanted to be a chef my whole life so I try everything I can at least once.
I ordered a spicy salmon roll once at a Japanese restaurant and it tasted of nothing and I wasn't very fond of the texture and I was stuck with two whole rolls of the stuff because nobody else would touch it. I didn't get sick or anything, but I much prefer cooked salmon rolls because I can actually taste the salmon.

>>5607331

when ordering nigiri (two pieces), i usually eat one piece plain and the other with soy or wasabi/ginger (but not both). best of both sides.

>>5606907

the MINIMUM incubation time for any common foodborne illnesses is 6 hours

It can take a while to get used to raw fish. I felt a little off the first half dozen times I ate sushi, and it was good stuff. If you only puked once, it was probably psychosomatic or just general stomach sensitivity.

There are ways to sort good sushi from bad. The rice should pearlesce, the nori should not be chewy, the fish should have delicate (and at times perfume-ish) qualities. The rice should not be packed tightly, and a decent itamae should be balancing the wasabi under nigiri to suit the fish... or maybe just using a little shiso leaf. If you're in a god-tier place, you won't get a bottle of soy; they'll brush nikiri on themselves.

If you're eating off a conveyor belt, floating boats or its all you can eat, you're not eating great stuff.

Tuesday and Wednesday tend to be FUCKING HORRIBLE days to eat seafood, especially sushi. Tuesday is the fishmonger's backlog from over the weekend being served up; Friday's fish. Wednesday might be a fresh order, but most restaurants don't get the turnover. Unless I'm within a few hours of the coast, I only eat sushi of quality on Friday or Saturday. I have an iron gut, and I've scoped my local sushi places, so I'll eat on Tuesday for the cheap stuff.

inb4 weeaboo; I'm a pro co/ck/, I study my food.

>>5606872
my advice: try it several times (probably at different places)
First time I tried it I thought it was disgusting. Second time it was ok. Now I love it and can eat tons of this tasty stuff. First four times were from the same place

>>5607763
There are several where symptoms appear in under 6 hours
staphlococcus aureus - 1-6hrs
Bacillus - 1-15hrs
campylobacter - 1-5hrs
escheichia coli - 5-48hrs
Listeria - 3-12hours

though most of the time if its quick it dish soap residue on improperly washed dishes, glasses, and cutlerly

>>5607779
this.

>>5606872
I actually just went to an all you can eat sushi place with BYOB. in bethpage NY.

got a couple bottles of wine and had like 4/5 rounds of anything you want. 20 bucks flat if you finish everything. I tried so many new things it was incredible

>>5607704
>Japan
>Fukushima
>quality fish

>>5607708
100% times better means twice the quality, shithead.

Sushi is delicious but it's fucking expensive in my country. Why? Because most hipsters go there.

>>5607718
No i don't misunderstand. Someone who enjoys putting soy sauce on his sushi isn't missing out on life because he does so. He's enjoying life more, because thats what he enjoys.

What you don't understand is that different people have different preferences.

Equating soy sauce to alcoholism is fucking mental.

>>5607911
Actually, it literally doesn't mean anything because no one says that and the reader is simply left feeling confused, with the impression that the writer is a fucking idiot.

Go on Yelp you dumbass

I really like Sushi but I really don't like California Rolls for some reaosn

I've never had problems with sushi but then again I live in the San Franicsco Bay Area

>>5606872

>eat at sushi place a few times a month
>after trying all the places in my town the only time i've gotten sick was when I drank to much warm saki
>most places i eat at have all you can eat type things
>always fill myself and seriously never get sick

Did you happen to go on a sunday, monday or tuesday? If so don't ever do that again. If not then you just choose a bad restaurant.

>Be in Denmark
>Local town has an extremely shitty sushi restaurant, capital is 50 minutes away with lots of delicious places though
>Used to fresh sushi with great soy sauce and overall greatness
>Last month, yearly trip to England
>Decide to go to Yo! Sushi for some katsu curry
>Got a long day ahead of me, figure I might as well order the katsu to go and eat some sushi at the restaurant before I head off

And I honestly cannot even begin to describe the taste. One word would be "disappointment". But mostly I was just weirded out cause it tasted so weird and different from what I'm used to.

>Going to Japan soon
>Will probably not be able to enjoy danish sushi again after tasting the real deal
Oh the pain

>>5608199

>implying there's a difference between Japanese sushi and good sushi made in another country

>>5607923

it's the same principal, which you would be able to see if you weren't to fixated on projecting sheep-mentality into people because they would like a richer experience. there is a difference between quality of experience and the feel-good chemicals that flood your brain when you ingest salt and MSG. maybe anon wants to move on from the latter.

>>5606910
Ahoj!

Are you in Prague?

If so if you went to that restaurant that also advertises "Chinese Food" that's why.

Place is shit.

>>5608300
>FInding good sushi in another country
Good luck
Theres a big difference

>>5606872
did you eat the ginger and wasabi too? those act as a sort of anti-bacterial/anti-viral agent to kill any potential bugs.

>>5607155
You realize every single person in japan dips their sushi in soy sauce. A lot of people in Tokyo can't handle spice and don't like wasabi but everyone else in the country loves it too.

>>5607911
Percentage is a fraction of 1, not an order of magnitude. The mathematically correct saying would be it is 500% better, or 6 times better, for example.

>>5608385
You dip sashimi, not sushi. Sushi is preseasoned.

Sushi is like one of my fav foods.
It's absolutely delicious

>>5608492
You're wrong

>>5608605
k sweetie ;^)

>>5607394
I can't say I know of any places near me that do this. I think it was Bizarre Foods where I saw the chef actually dispatch the currently-living chicken to make this so you know even though it's raw it's okay.

>>5608479
>Percentages are fractions
Not even that dude but are you in grade school?

>>5607394
Where can I find this?

>>5608492
>let me tell you about japanese culture
>h-here's my weeblord authenticity certificate

>>5607434
commit seppuku pls ameri-kun.

>>5607410
good value but tamago looks lazy.

>>5606910
>Czech Republic
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g274707-d2530954-r130995500-Hanabi_Sushi_House-Prague_Bohemia.html

google shit next time

>>5606981
the pickled ginger is to clear the pallet, don't eat it with the sushi
soy sauce is for bad sushi
a touch of wasabi usually doesn't hurt

>>5608816
>n-no anon this is how you're *supposed to* eat it
shut the fuck up.

>>5608834
do you even see what he was replying to? he was giving a beginner first time advice which is pretty solid.

>>5608839
being correct about the ginger
doesn't mean he knows about
soy sauce and wasabi

>>5608845
you dont have to
type your posts
like william shatner

>>5608845
>>5608834
You can do whatever you want
I would recommend using soy sauce and wasabi lightly if you are eating high grade sushi.

What did you expect from such a dish? Feels like eating fish with rice that's wrapped with seaweed paper . I suppose it's a way to out 'culture' in a cultureless western society

>>5608848

I'm disappointed.
From the format of your posts,
I expect haiku.

I'm a sushi newb and I read the thread. Do you guys have some advice or suggestions on some things to try? I'm going tomorrow and would like to try sushi, nagiri and sashimi. Until this thread I thought sashimi was nagiri.

>>5608915
Or maybe
Christopher
Walken

>>5606872

>>5606912
This.

The best sushi places in London are in the West End and are small hole-in-the-wall type places run by a small group of Japanese people.

Signs of a good sushi restaurant:
1. Sushi being prepared to order in at least partial view of the seating area
2. Japanese sushi chefs
3. Small menu
4. Good conveyor belt places are few and far between but there is a gem tucked down an alley near Liverpool St. station

Also it helps to you know when certain fishes are in season as to what to order.

>>5608962

spicy scallop roll
mackerel nigiri
salmon sashimi is a safe choice for your first go. you have experience with the fish in other forms.

i bought two boxes of this shit from costco. what the fuck was i thinking? packaged costco sushi

I fucking hate salmon they should all be killed and never be eaten again.

Tuna however I quite like, had some Tuna sashimi whilst In japan and I was very impressed.

>>5609195

I'm in london next week, can you recommend anywhere near soho that's not too expensive?

Also how is Yo Sushi? Awful or worth a try?

>>5606872
also a good sign:

Many asians there

>>5609581
>>also a good sign:

>Many asians there

I don't believe you

>>5606872
>go to sushi restaurant
>5€ for four rolls, sounds like a good deal
>get four pieces, barely 2" diameter
>stare at it in disbelief
>my erect dick is more than twice as big
>go home and make myself four rolls of different sushi and eat it like a burrito

>>5606872
some people just have serious aversion to raw fish, especially if it's your first time, you're not used to the taste so it could have just been a jarring experience.

but 30 bucks for 2 people at a sushi restaurant, probably cheap shit restaurant.

>>5608376

I've had good sushi, was very easy to find. Just went to a good-looking sushi place where I could see how they prepare it. And it tasted very good. So. Yeah.
But then again, "good" is very subjective.

>>5607419
>is perfectly safe when handled and sourced properly,

Nobody said anything about safety, but hey, people eat mud and cow feces in places, so I guess there's that.

>>5609590
you mean 4 pieces, like coin shaped slices????

>>5609557
perhaps you were under the influence ?

>>5608492
In good places it's preseasoned. In chesp takeout nigiri it's usually not because western tastes...so it's acceptable to add a little wasabi and soy equal to what should have been added in the making.

>>5607766
Not knowing 90% of American sushi fish is prefrozen for parasite safety protocol.

>>5607889
Sort of this.

If you think wild fish are cleaner or healthier for you than farmed fish, you are a moron.

So most sushi places I ate at with Ebi serve it butterflied from the bottom.

this place I ate at for my birthday though served it like this.

What is it called? It was way chewier (I'm assuming it was actually raw) but overall I liked it better.

>>5610009

amaebi, you went to a decent place for your birthday.

>>5610013
Spoiler: it was actually a chinese buffet with a sushi buffet.

First time we tried going to this restaurant, it was in a really really really black neighborhood.

Then we found the same restaurant in a more white community so we were like yeah nig nogs let's eat there.

The Maki didn't impress me (I'm not a fan of it anyways) and they dont' have roe nigiri (instead, it was on slices of cucumber?) but the Nigiri was amazing.

typical fare: Tuna, Salmon, Yellowtail and Halibut, along with the Amaebi like described. I think there was also Octopus?

There was also Unagi but it was only in the Maki, which disappointed me, but not as much as the fact that it was the Maki smothered in that weird sauce.

>>5610027
oops, forgot to list the actual name of the restaurant.

>>5609960
Most of the seafood in Japan besides Tuna and Salmon comes from the Sea of Japan.

Would I have to go to a fancier restaraunt to have unagi?

>always hated seafood
>after years of convincing, decide to finally try it on a double date
>actually really enjoy it
I have only been to two restaurants though. Ones $23 for all you can eat dinner, other is $26 (includes unlimited deserts though). I prefer the $23 one though, as I don't like super fishy rolls, which is the $26 one. I usually stick to shrimp, crab/krab, salmon, and Godzilla rolls.

Signs someone doesn't know shit about sushi:

>My favorite is unagi!

>I love the salmon sushi here, it's just like in Japan!

>Can I have some more wasabi?

>The tuna is delicious here, it must be fresh!

>The spicy rolls are to die for!

>Let's order some cones to go!

>>5607766

Good luck finding a real itamae outside of Japan. 10 years+ to become 一人前 in Japan, another 5 years to learn the local market after moving out of Japan, and 5 more to open your own place.

Also Tuesdays and Wednesdays are not necessary bad days to eat sushi, especially if you're eating frozen. I eat binchou-don at my usual place on Tuesdays, because they defrost it on Monday and clean it the following day.

Next time look for a place with Coreans to experience the best sushi. Better cuts, better prep, and have better experience training.

>>5610404
Unagi is very popular in Japan. Salmon if from Norway but is the second most popular type. Wasabi is great and only the pussies in Kantou dislike it. The tuna should taste good and theres nothing wrong with a country creating their own version of another countries dish. What is wrong with Temaki again?

Go take your weird white people sushi rules some where else.

>>5610404

I'm a big snob about sushi and I like spicy rolls. I'd never order one at any place worth a shit but for some mediocre place they're perfectly tasty.

>>5610404
>signs you are a weeaboo faglord
>you aren't japanese and are telling people what is "correct" about japanese food and/or culture
>you are almost completely incorrect about everything you said

yup, it's a weeblord.

>>5610426

>Unagi is very popular in Japan

Not for edomae sushi. If you ask for unagi outside of kaiten places in Tokyo, they will laugh at you.

It is true that unagi is used in Kansai (oshizushi), but most people outside of Japan do not eat oshizushi, they eat edomae.
>Salmon if from Norway but is the second most popular type

Same as above, it is not a traditional sushi ingredient.

>Wasabi is great and only the pussies in Kantou dislike it

Wasabi is great if it's real wasabi, which you probably won't get outside of Japan.

>The tuna should taste good and theres nothing wrong with a country creating their own version of another countries dish.

What does that have to do with tuna being fresh or not? My comment was satirizing people who think fresh = good, frozen = bad, as far as tuna goes.

>What is wrong with Temaki again?

It should be eaten at the counter, not "to go" because it will become soggy.


>Go take your weird white people sushi rules some where else.

外人さんに言われたくないね。

>>5610446

Why don't you point out what is wrong about what I said?

>>5610430
>>5610404
What's wrong with spicy rolls? I thought they taste good.

>>5610447

Here are some sources:

Why unagi is not a common sushi ingredient:

http://q.hatena.ne.jp/1221117486

Why salmon is not commonly served:

http://okwave.jp/qa/q2822503.html
http://oshiete.goo.ne.jp/qa/7798386.html

>>5610455

They do taste good, but they don't fit with the overall meal. It's like serving kimchi with washoku -- it is out of place.

>>5610464

maybe if you get them at a nice place. I agree with >>5610430

they aren't out of place at your run of the mill sushi joint

>>5610447
>they will laugh at you
no they won't.

>weeblord tradition police
>implying japanese live their lives like the bizarre romantic historical fantasy in your head

>get on my horseradish level, pleb
>implying most japanese get real wasabi at their $10 prix fixe lunch plate

>ho ho ho, silly foreigners complementing something they enjoy out of ignorance

while japan certainly has its share of autists the generally polite culture prevents people from being as inexplicably rude as you are.

>>5610455
nothing. order what you like to eat.

>>5610460
seppuku pls ken-sama

>>5610447
I've only ever had temaki to go in Japan. You don't get Unagi sushi ever anywhere, but Anago is in every sushi restaurant.

>>5610469

>no they won't.

Read the links >>5610460
>implying japanese live their lives like the bizarre romantic historical fantasy in your head

I`m an apprentice in Ginza. We do take our work very seriously, and I have been yelled at by customers for breaking customs before.


>seppuku pls ken-sama

Are you going to refute my points, or are you just resorting to name-calling

>>5610481
>An apprentice in Ginza

Fuck your overpriced shit. I'd rather eat my sushi somewhere else and hang out in 300

>>5610474

>I've only ever had temaki to go in Japan.

Yes, and the seaweed was wrapped separate from the rice right? Same as hosomaki, even convenience stores nowadays have the special kind of packages where you can pull out the plastic, and the seaweed wraps itself.

>You don't get Unagi sushi ever anywhere, but Anago is in every sushi restaurant.

Isn`t that the point I was making?

>>5610481
you're responsible for their meal. they have expectations. they have poor manners. none of that has any bearing on whether or not a chef or other customers would laugh at you for ordering food. if you are ascondescending to customers as you are while trying to impress other white people on the internet you won't last long in service in japan.

calling a rude cunt a rude cunt isn't name-calling it's truth-telling. you're an officious twat.

>>5610483

I`ve learned more in Ginza than I have anywhere else, simply from the volume of customers we get. Customs are also very important, because most of the customers come here to impress their guests (接待).

I`m not going to dispute the fact that Ginza is overpriced compared to the rest of Tokyo.

>>5610495

I`ve been an apprentice for 8 years already. I`m only ranting on the internet because I can`t to customers.

It`s no different than the `customer pet peeves`threads. Sure, we complain about well-done steaks, but that doesn't mean we literally complain to the customers.

I`m not trying to impress anyone, I`m just ranting. Are you trying to be the internet etiquette police on me or something?

>>5610506

this place is filled with imperious weeblords on every japan related thread. it's hard to separate fact from fiction.

すみません。 分かりません でした。

>>5610559

But it is true that I`m pretentious. I think working here made me bitter. My master`s honyaki yanagi is mirror polished, and he polishes it every single day. When I was just starting out, I asked him why does he spend so much time on something of little importance to the final product, he said that I will never be itamae until I ”get it.”

I can`t wait to go back to `MURICA and work in a more relaxed setting.

それと、なんで敬語つかってんだ。。。

>>5610404
>not liking delicious fucking Unagi

>>5610447
>Wasabi is great if it's real wasabi, which you probably won't get outside of Japan.

Don't remind me. The world isn't fair. It would cost me $75 to fucking order 1/2 lb of wasabi rhizome. This world isn't fair.

>>5610592
I'm so glad I got a CS degree so I could afford to go to Japan and have fun and not have to deal with bullshit Japanese employers

>Sushi thread
>Not becoming autistic shitfest

Why /ck/

>tasted bad
>paid a lot

sushi experience / 10

>>5606915
Are you kidding me? There's entire sushi buffets with small bits of chinese food for picky eaters. That's where I take people to try sushi for the first time. If you like that, you'll love the real stuff. If you hate it, I'm not dropping 40$ on you hating something better. It's not "authentic", but neither are the "real sushi" restaurants around here.

>go to asian grill bar
>actually buffet with food cooked as you order it
>sushi after sushi rolling through my esophagus
>20$
>bretty gud

>>5610701
It's a snob thing. You wouldn't understand with your underdeveloped palate.

Anyone knows any good sushi place near Brisbane?

I just moved here recently and I don't know anything about the place, much less where to get good food.

I know it's not sushi but it is a Japanese rice dish so it's slightly related.

Does anyone know of a good place to get umeboshi for onigiri?

I don't know if this applies, but never ever eat at a Sushi place that is not on the coast. There are probably a few exceptions, but I think it is a good rule to follow.

Sushi thread?

I guess I'll leave this. Party for my sister last year on her birthday. Chef's Choice. 90 bucks.

>>5611692
I also enjoy mixing food and boats

>>5606872
I had some pretty good sushi in the midwest
surprising yes, but it was really great
fresh tasting and almost cold but felt like it had been on ice
minimal wasabi and just enough soysauce

unagi is really something

>>5611657
you could always try making your own
but typically an asian foods/grocery market
if not, try whole foods or any place that looks like it's super pretentious like that

>>5611705
We don't have anything like that in the little college/prison town I live in.

>>5611692
Gross. Sushi is meant to be eaten write after it is made. Go watch Jiro, educate yourself.

>>5610460
The Unagi page was interesting, I'm a dragon eel roll fan but it's one item that seems to make people squeamish sometimes because impression freshwater eels = dirty like catfish, but both are delish when properly prepared. I assume rolls aren't traditional but outside of killing my taste early in the meal with pungent or spicy things, I enjoy them.

>>5610157
No, my local 'sushi to go' franchise in local grocery stores often has it, BBQ style complete with sauce, so perfectly safe to eat and dragon eel rolls made with brown rice are pretty popular though not as much so as something like Cali rolls or spicy tuna even. Is it Japanese? Possibly but I doubt it's traditional and somehow the avocado and sauce make it a terribly rich and slightly gamey roll.

>Go take your weird white people sushi rules some where else.

Ok, yes, I lol'd

Nothing makes me rage harder than people who say they hate sushi after ordering a california roll and believing that they ate Japanese food
What's even sadder is that this isn't limited to just normalfags, there are a shit ton of people even on /ck/ who trash talk sushi because they ordered the philly roll at a place run by chinese dudes

>>5611705
I use a dab of jarred umeboshi paste, a whole umeboshi is toooo much to me.
In no way is this authentic anything but pretty tasty.

>>5611705
Where get ume?

>tfw no place to get fresh salmon and tuna sashimi anywhere near me

>>5611811
I think I'm just gonna end up going with tuna and salmon, since I can get that easily.

>>5607155
Here is everything you need to know. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GAJeUONc3b0

>>5611836
This video is going to get some ignorant gaijin stabbed.

>>5611825
I used to use Costco salmon to make sushi but that video of worms moving around in raw Costco fish put me off from doing that ever again.

>>5611973
Catch your own fish. <:3c

>>5611692
I find sushi boats to be a rip-off.

Also, what was this restaurant's name?

Because you know a boat is shit when they waste space and your money by adding those 4 shrimp sushi that barely deserve to be called shrimp sushi.

If I were you and hosting a party for your sister, a better bang for your buck would have been ordering individual Chirashi Bowls depending on how big or small your party was.

If it was just you, your sister, and your parents, 90 dollars would have enough for 4 Chirashi Bowls and some other sushi on the side.

How can I tell you got ripped off?

Just look at the amount of california roll variations on your boat that you could have made yourself for less than 10 dollars.

As for the sushi, those sushi aren't worth 80 dollars at all.

Seriously, dude, next time just order smarter or make your own sushi boat for your sister.

Let's see, if your family ain't so crazy about raw fish.

Why not make Eel Rice aka Unagi Rice?

Get some precooked unagi package which is enough for 1 to 2 people. Buy more if more people are attending a party for your sister. (You can ask them to pay you cash for party supplies and in return you are making party food for them). And making eel rice is pretty easy when you buy those precooked eels.

Next, find a reputable fish vendor or an Asian market or google where to buy Sashimi grade fish in your area.

Salmon is usually the cheapest sashimi compared to the others.

You can buy other types of sashimi but I find salmon to be more practical for taking it back to your home kitchen.

Then, depending on how big your sister's party is, cut up or have someone cut your 1 to 3 or more pound of salmon sashimi and serve with ginger and diced daikon along with your eel rice.

Or you can use your raw salmon to make salmon rolls.

Just get some cucumbers, avocadoes, and raw salmon and make multiple sushi rolls with them.

You can buy those tiny fish eggs to sprinkle over your rolls to make them look orange.

>>5612034
And yeah, for leftover sushi rolls, just wrap them all up in aluminum foil and put them in the refrigerator.

I also hope you are making your own sushi rice with vinegar and all the other crap.

But yeah, dude, 90 dollars for that sushi boat you ordered for your sister is just a rip-off.

>>5612034
>>5612041
If she liked it it's fine.

Better than jewelry that'll just sit in a drawer forever.

This is what you eat sushi with

Not disgusting regular soy sauce.

Ew.

not only do you use ponzu

you let the rice soak... and you eat like 100% daily value of sodium in one bite

omgg so good tho

and ill put wassabi and ginger right on top of that shit and create a giant bomb of flavor in one

and now only that...

you have to use chopsticks because it actually makes it taste better somehow.

Im vegetarian so i make my own sushi at home, rice, carrots, avocado and cream cheese.

Tastes great and is delicious!

>>5612047
I always wonder if expensive liquor was always a better investment than jewelry.

It just seems easier enjoying old liquor or selling old liquor compared to jewelry.

>>5612099
Bitches love wine and chocolate.

>>5612073
Ponzu does not go on sushi

>>5607889
>Fukushima
The Japanese fishing boats go everyfuckingwhere on the planet. They fish tuna in protected no-fishing zones off the U.S. coast, they fish crab out of season in Alaskan waters, they steal toothfish from off the coast of Chile.

If they're really, really unlucky, a Coast Guard boat will pull alongside and bitch at them for a while. Then they just pull off in the knowledge that nobody's going to blow up a fishing boat over economic rights.

Boats are mobile, m'kay?

>>5610837

In Aus at least, the buffets with sushi trains are $25pp. If you wanted to gauge whether someone likes sushi, I'd rather go to decent sushi train retaurant with ~$3/plate.

The plus side is if they hate it after the first one, you leave with a sub-$10 bill and migrate to the nearest Maccas.

>>5612193
>sushi train

is that the conveyor belt ones?

yeah, some place I went to had a conveyor belt sushi buffet with some guy making it right there.

It was nice, but when you go to that buffet solely for sushi, you feel kind of bad when you pick up like 6 plates because they only put like 2 pieces of sushi on each one

Couldn't top that Nigiri though. Too bad they closed.

>>5612193
>decent sushi
>~$3/plate

>>5608816
>the pickled ginger is to clear the pallet

>>5612193
>with ~$3/plate.
I looked at the exchange rate for the Aus Dollar and then laughed

>>5612213
smirked

>>5612202
Most sushi conveyor belt restaurants know close in less than half a year.

I guess only such a thing only remains profitable in Japan.

>>5610426
>What is wrong with Temaki again?

Not that guy, but temaki should be eaten as soon as possible to keep the nori from getting soggy and having the whole thing fall apart. Getting it to go obviously precludes that.

>>5610404
>My favorite is unagi!

lel

my favorite is when they say this not realizing that their unagi came microwaved out of a shrink wrap blister pack

>mfw I take a girl to a good sushi place and she asks for god damm green tea ice cream

it hurts to live

Most sushi restaurants around here are run by the koreans or the chinese, there's only one that's "authentic"

Also some of the places around here tend to have names that aren even japanese.

One place is smack dab in the middle of a shitty town and wreathed by a kentucky fried chicken and a burger king. I went there and it was mediocre. Another is in a plaza right next to a grocery store. They suck so hard. despite just opening a few months ago. The grocery store has better sushi.

There's a frou frou place that has good fish, but their plating always goes ham to hell and back. Plus their portions are way too small for the price. Ordered an unagi don last time I went and it wasn't even in a bowl.

Nothing is puke level here. But there is just a lot of mediocrity. The best one is like an hour from my house. so it's only for really good occasions.

>Live in Vancouver
>Great sushi places everywhere

10 bucks sushi in Japan.

>sushi costs too much in this 3rd world country
i suffer

>>5612093
Okay dude, answer this for me. How the fuck is eating fish acceptable for vegetarians?? It's a living fucking creature... How is it any different from a Cow?

>>5613151
lol

Germanfag here.

I pay 10€ for 16 different california rolls, ~3€ for 6 makis and 15€ for 10 different nigri in my local vietnamese sushi restaurant..

Why are vietnamese restaurants always so cheap?

>>5611692
Looks overpriced in my eyes.

>>5612780
How do you call the one with the fish-eggs again? I love them.

>>5613151
muh cutness

>>5613177

Ikura

>>5613172
Canadian here.
I go to an AYCE sushi place and literally order upwards of 50 pieces for 16 CAD.

>>5613250
Shitty sushi tho

I go to cheap 7$ buffet type of sushi restaurants and I honestly pig out so badly on the sushi from how great it tastes, and theres a variety to the point that I start craving it if i dont have it like once every few months. Tastes great to me

>>5606872
Sounds to me like it was the place you went or perhaps what you ordered.
The Thai (Asian fusion) places around me have the best sushi. Its not cheap but with seafood you generally get what you pay for.The Japanese steakhouses I've gone to usually have mediocre and expensive sushi compared to the Thai restaurants.

Chinese buffet sushi is usually on par with grocery store sushi or filled with cream cheese.

Try a Thai place with sushi; my favorite rolls are the spicy tuna, masago and snow crab.

>>5607704

That feel. I'm from southern England on the coastline where seafood was such a part of my diet. Even so, the quality of fish there is saddening.

>>5612780
>Ebi
>not Amaebi

garbage.

I started eating sushi not too long ago. $5 Philly rolls are now the bane of my existence

>>5614336
There is Amaebi between a Ikra and Tamago, moron.

>>5612335
What shit Japanese place doesn't have green tea ice cream. I swear its more common than vanilla out here.

>>5610447
You do realize they grown wasabi in Oregon, right?

>>5614336
Amaebi is not a traditional edomae ingredient.

>>5615538

Green tea ice cream is a scam.

>>5606899
well for starters, if you're paying less than $30 between 2 people, it's unlikely to be very good.

>>5612213
i waited days for something like this

fucking lol

What's this about mercury and radiation ?

>>5606872
Not sure about sushi, but my gf took me to a teppanyaki restaurant for my birthday. It was fucking amazing. The chef cooked at our table. We had scallops and lobster. It was one of the best restaurant experiences that I've ever had. Utterly delicious food and seeing it cooked at the table was great. She really treated me.

tfw gf who looks after me

>>5612093
Your bait is poor and you should be ashamed of yourself. Poor trolling is poor.

>>5615735
>That feel when paying 400 yen for my daily grocery store sushi lunch and it being better than anything I ever got in America.

I've started eating sushi recently and I really like it.
So far I have had:
Salmon sashimi
Octopus sashimi
yellowtail sushi
rainbow roll
red dragon roll
tokyo roll

I've enjoyed all of it and I am looking for suggestions of more things to try. I'm really open to anything.

Do you like octopus sashimi?

>>5616576
Tuna

>>5606872
you prolly had a bad place, i've yet to experiencebad sushi, but then again i've only gone to like 6-7 different sushi places and i knew they were pretty good

>>5616621
I prefer baby octopus.

btw does anyone know what that completely white and shiny seafood is on nigiris?
it's like slimy and tough and also doesn't taste that good imo?
i've tried it twice, no clue what it is but never enjoyed it

>>5616673
sounds like ika. squid

>>5616680
might be the squid meat, but it wasn't the ring.
it did had a roundish shape iirc though

>>5616685
Squid doesn't only come in rings you know

>>5616687
yeah i know, but the rings are the most common form. also i've had squid and it was close to it but not really.
then again, i don't know if i've had raw squid

>>5616660
Iidako?

>>5616733
no

>>5616753
Korean or Chinese sushi restaurant?

>>5616780
Supposedly Japanese. It's pretty common in the cheap japanese restaurant chains as well

>>5616780

That one is probably Korean

>>5616576
Try Lobster Sashimi. I love it.

>>5616621
I tried some for the first time recently and I thought it was wonderful.

>>5609576
>>5609576
Apologies for the late reply.
Yo Sushi is not worth a try - the sushi is bland and boring, but depending on the branch, the atmosphere can be quite good.

My favourite place in/around Soho, near where I worked for a few weeks was called Lingo.

http://www.lingocuisine.com/

What is expensive is subjective.

>>5616621

I love octopus. I don't know why, it doesn't have a strong flavor and is somewhere between moderately to extremely chewy (depending on how it was prepared), but I still really like t.

http://www.bigsushi.ca/menu.pdf

>all of these people saying you cant get good sushi for extremely cheap prices
>tfw this restaurant makes fresh sushi when you order it

The only time I have had better sushi was when I was in Japan, it's really a shame that more people don't have access to something like this.

>>5610615
>Dim Javis

My sides

>>5606872
I go to a cheap but glorious Chinese Buffet near my house that's packed full of people every night of the week. There, I gorge myself on a dozen kinds of chicken, frogs, beef, clams, crawfish, and "sushi" rolls of whatever kind the vaguely Asian looking guy behind the counter puts out. It is all amazing and I simply do not give a fuck about anyone who tells me otherwise.

>>5619190
>http://www.bigsushi.ca/menu.pdf
Korean owned place I can tell by the rice and the bento plates.

>>5606872
For me it was the first time eating raw fish, and I didn't really enjoy it at all. Some month passed and I tried it again, now I love sushi.

>>5619190
>http://www.bigsushi.ca/menu.pdf
>whitetuna sushi
don't trust that place.

>>5612580
>Live in Vancouver
>Korean owned sushi places everywhere
>Shoehorns broccoli and California rolls at every opportunity
There's like a few I know of that's really good but they're too far away and none of my friends want to come along since they're busy with "muh video game culture" restaurants.

>>5613768
What county?

>I've had some expensive sushi.
>Ate at the most popular sushi restaurants in the country.
And yet the best sushi I've had is a small sushi place kept by an elderly Japanese couple.

hee hee

>>5606912
>(if someone praises the fish for being especially fresh it's a dead giveaway that they know absolutely nothing).
Care to elaborate on this?

>>5621405
>"muh video game culture" restaurants
what do you mean?

>>5606872
GOD BLESS AMERICA!

>>5621798

The absolute best restaurants have the resources to procure the best ingredients. At best, the small sushi restaurants run by an elderly shokunin from Japan would have consistently good food.


>>5621941

Not him, but some tuna is better aged, or even frozen. It's like saying "I like this steakhouse because the beef tastes so fresh."

>>5621941
i presume that he means most fish is frozen and then thawed, making the idea that it's "fresh" fallacious; but people don't mean "boy, i can taste that this fish was never frozen!" they mean that it smells and tastes correct and has the correct texture and consistency. it's a limitation of modern english when describing something as being good in and of itself that people will often comment instead on its "freshness". it would be enough to say "i liked it."

a similar issue exists with beef cattle: we often confuse the quality of the meat with the way it has been cooked when, in reality, any reasonable cook will showcase the meat's quality in some way and the inverse effect for a poorer animal.

one can smell the ammoniac stench of a sedentary animal's former life as strongly as one can tell that a fish has gone off.

>>5622055
>some tuna is better aged, or even frozen

indeed

>>5612780

Do you know why this is 10 bux? It's because this is probably from a "100 yen" sushi place, where they have machines that make nigiri balls, and some part-timer just puts the neta on top.

Proof- look at the ebi.

>>5608783
in the FDA's nightmares

It's an acquired taste. Tried it first in 2008 and spit it out. Tried it a few more times in college and began to like it (although honestly, I only ate crab or cooked fish sushi). Fast foward a few years, I ate so much sushi in 2012 that I still get queasy at the thought of it now, 2 years later. I'm pretty much done with sushi.

>>5607394
I hope you didn't pay a chef to make that for you

So many fucking sushi shitters on 4chan in general
Seriously some of the dumbest fucking people
>EWW Sushi Is gross!!!!
>Even though I only got it one time
>Even though the chefs were a bunch of mexican dudes
>Even though I only ordered the philly cream cheese roll with extra mayonnaise
>Even though I don't eat raw fish
>Yeah, I can definitely say that sushi is a shit cuisine based on my one experience with it in bumfuck nowhere, USA!
>Take that stupid weebs!

>>5622081
Still tastes 10x better than Western supermarket sushi.

Would you pay $300 for this?

>>5611770
Do you think he really dreams of sushi?

>>5622432
For the full course yeah

>>5616573
>Implying burgerland can make good sushi

>>5622765
Everyone I know only kind of likes burgers. I mean, we wouldn't drive across the city for it.

>>5622790
You guys ain't murricans

>>5622798
We're Americans.