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Stupid/basic question thread?

Is it better to add salt to boiling water immediately or when it has started to boil?

>> No.5801514

>>5801505

What are you trying to cook?

And what are you trying to achieve with adding salt?

>> No.5801530

it doesn't really matter either way

>> No.5801529

>>5801505

I don't see that there'd be any difference, it'll be in solution either way.

>> No.5801540

what the fuck is with you

>> No.5801541

you want to wait until the water is cooked or you'll draw the moisture away from it

>> No.5801547

>>5801514
Making pasta. Just making sure it's seasoned properly I guess.

>>5801529
>>5801530
>>5801541
Thanks.

>> No.5801555

>>5801547
I don't think it really matters if you add salt or not.

You're usually better off seasoning the sauce.

>> No.5801566

>>5801555

stop nigga, you're supposed to salt pasta water

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>>5801541

>> No.5801580

>>5801566
I never do that, and I don't know anyone that does.

My pasta always comes out fine.

>> No.5801582

OP, salting water just raises the boiling point, which in turn will cook the pasta faster. It's also the only real chance to season the pasta itself.

Do it at the start.

>> No.5801584

>>5801580

> I don't know anyone that does.

try the entirety of italy and most of the western world

>> No.5801585

If you're talking tastes, I don't think it matters. The salt is in the solution no matter when you add it.
If you're talking physics, then salt water reaches boiling point faster. If you add a dash of salt, the difference won't be noticable. But if it's a 20% salt solution, it'll be quite noticable. Not that you'll ever boil anything in a one-fifth salt water.

>> No.5801586

I want to carmelize onions in a crock pot. Should I toss them in oil first?

>> No.5801587

>>5801580
it's an extra seasoning that gets absorbed by the pasta as it swells. you might like second place but i don't. gordon ramsay has taught me better than that. now begone! what a mess. fuck off.

>> No.5801588

>>5801582
The difference is absolutely unnoticable.

>> No.5801594

>>5801588
>why add basil
>it's negligible
>why season
>what's the point
>why have sides you have a meal
>why sear
>why boil
>why cook
>why eat
>why ATP production
>why genetic propogation

>> No.5801596

>>5801584
>>5801587

Well I learnt something new then.

>> No.5801602

>>5801594
>what is autism
Try to boil two identical pots with identical amount of water. Pinch salt into one. There will be no difference in how soon they reach boil, because what
>>5801585
said.

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>>5801586
guys, pls help.

>> No.5801670

>>5801586
Yes, toss in a little bit of oil

>> No.5801676

>>5801602
because tastes are objective. you are a goddamn goober.

>> No.5801738

>>5801585
Adding solutes raises the boiling point and lowers vapor pressure without changing specific heat, so it would actually take longer to reach boiling. But adding salt to water that is at the boiling point does create nucleation points which might cause it to boil more easily.

>> No.5801746

>>5801602
U WOT m8? You're supposed to cook pasta in water that is salty like seawater you fucking birdbrain jeez.

>> No.5801887

Heres a question:
What are the best spices for making a good taco meat? I've got about half a pound of ground beef and wanted to make some tacos or burritos tonight

>> No.5801896

>>5801555
The fuck's the matter with you? Pasta tastes like semolina bullshit unless you add salt to the water. Then, season the sauce with the pasta water
>Do you even Flavortown?

>> No.5802027

>>5801896

> season the sauce with pasta water

What the fuck

>> No.5802029

>>5801887

Cumin, cayenne, onion and garlic powder, salt, pepper, oregano if you'd like.

Cumin is the one that contributes most of the "taco taste", though.

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5802030

>>5801541
>you want to wait until the water is cooked or you'll draw the moisture away from it

this

>> No.5802036

>>5801505
when it's cold so you don't get steam in the shaker and clog it all up

>> No.5802040

>>5801555
kill yourself

>> No.5802047

>>5802027
Well, if you add a splash of starchy pasta water it helps the sauce coat the pasta better

>> No.5802136

>>5801541
Do you not dry brine your water before cooking or something?

>> No.5802156

>>5802030

>you will never be approached by a shy and awkward teenage giada in your english class
>you will never meet her overbearing and goofy parents who embarrass her and make her blush as you talk to her about italian cooking

>> No.5802175

I got a recipie what dun calls fer some Rice Vinegar. Now I never fucking use Rice Vinegar, so its expired a decent while ago. Is it safe to use anyway? Will it taste awful? I didn't even know Vinegar could go bad.


Also need sesame oil, which I have and haven't checked the date on but it's quite old. So same question for that, old Sesame Oil- safe, edible?

>> No.5802183

>>5802175
drink a shot of it, if you die then it's not safe and you shouldn't use it

>> No.5802185

>>5802030

>filename

I laughed like an idiot

>> No.5802223

>>5802183
Ur 1 cheeky lil bastard, mun.

>> No.5802267

Not OP here, but I've got a different question:
If you want to thicken a sauce, what do you generally use and why? I know that you can use either a roux or a water & starch mixture. But is there any real difference in terms of thickening sauces?

>> No.5802268

>>5801514
Sometimes it's supposed to be salty.
For instance in Bolognese your supposed to add a lot of salt to the pasta, so much that the pasta is noticably salty.

>> No.5802278

>>5801588
No it's not.

>> No.5803040

>>5802267
I usually use cornstarch (or potato starch since I tend to have that on hand more often).

Starches are 'better' at thickening in that they require less to produce the result in comparison to flour, but in my experience it doesn't matter too much what you use (unless you're going for a clearer sauce vs cloudy)

>> No.5803048

>>5801541

Great response.

>> No.5803055

>>5801585

Salty water has a higher boiling point than pure water.

So I fail to understand how it salt water can boil faster than an equal amount of regular water.

>> No.5803063

>>5803055
It boils at a higher temperature so the temperature at which the pasta is cooked is higher than in water without salt.

As such, due to the physics of the universe, the pasta cooks in less time because it is cooked at a higher temperature.

Science!

>> No.5803089

>>5801505
Why are vegans/vegetarians so pushy when it comes to showing me examples of animal cruelty? I researched and those cases are the exception and are caught by the govt. regulatory agency.

Is it because they are masochistic or just that controlling that anybody they meet has to conform to their standards. I realize NOT everyone does this, but you can say that about any population. It's just a majority that do. I've only met 1 that didn't out of about 30 I've met.

>> No.5803091

>>5803089
>I researched and those cases are the exception and are caught by the govt. regulatory agency.

Since you seem to be attempting to prove a negative (the absence of cruelty)...citation, please

>> No.5803093

put oil in water to make it boil faster

>> No.5803098

>>5803089
Thank you for your stupid question that demonstrates an admirable inability to understand basic argumentation or the theoretical basis of empirical evidence.

Stupid question indeed.

>> No.5803109

>>5803098

How long did it take you to think of that sentence?

>> No.5803116

>>5803109
less than ten seconds.

>> No.5803152

>>5803098
Not saying there ISN'T animal cruelty, just that it isn't as common as they would like you to believe.

>>5803091
I fucking dare you to find a better source. I've looked at all the subjects I usually buy and I've never heard of the places - probably because they got fucking shut down right away.
http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/warningletters/wlFilterBySubject.cfm

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5803158

>>5803152
>.fda.gov

thanks for the corporate agitprop Anon

>> No.5803171

>>5801505
when it starts to boil
it will take longer to boil if you do it before

>> No.5803179

>>5803158
>taking an opinionated organizations thoughts on food vs. a regulated federal governing agency

Are you fucking serious? I'm absolutely flabbergasted. I'd count you as another crazy on my list, but I haven't met you in person so I won't.

>> No.5803231

>>5803179
>the FDA is an objective research body that freely disseminates open source knowledge
ahahahahah

>> No.5804701

What is the sesame on top of burger buns for? It doesn't add anything to the flavor and they just fall off. Waste.

>> No.5804729

>>5803231
Well, I did provide a link for every fucking warning letter they've sent companies, so I'd say that's pretty open source nigga.

I count people like you as nuts as the basement dwellers who have 15 assault rifles, multiple uniforms, years worth of rations, and the like for the impending government takeover. Absolutely fucking crazy. "The Govt. is going to kill us OMG". Exactly the same only food vs. war.

Yes. There is an Illuminati plot that dabbles in the FDA to secretly give you hormones to alter your brain to make you follow government suggestion more easily. Ohhhhhhhhhh