/ck/ - Food & Cooking

To keep people from poisoning them?

>>6764834

they had holders made of gold which was be stolen

because the stems broke off at some point in the thousands of years since they were used.

>>6764839
>>6764842
either of these. they either set them in holders, or they had stems.

>>6764842
>thousands of years since they were used.
made me smile

>>6764834
Because when you were tired of drinking you simply threw the remainder on the nearest peasant or servile person.

>>6764839
>>6764842
>>6764846
nope faggots

>>6764856
No, you're fucking wrong. Now go back to reddit, fag.

either both of those cups are missing their stand because they broke off or the people who had the glasses made where very heavy drinkers and thus would always have a cup of wine/beer in their hands and when they where done a servant would come take the glass away

Re-read the question everyone.

"Why do you think they would WANT cups like that?"

These cups DID NOT have holders or stems. They did this on purpose. Why?

>>6764865
>These cups DID NOT have holders or stems. They did this on purpose.
[citation needed]

>>6764834
Because even in the 12th century idiots at parties would drink half their beer, leave it somewhere, forget which cup was theirs, and help themselves to a new beer. No one likes people wasting their booze at parties. I should start serving drinks in glasses like this.

>>6764834

cuz old time'y faggots didn't slammed each drink only putting down an empty cup.

>>6764867
Defeats the purpose of asking the question if I have to provide links that would reveal the answer.

>>6764859
> Everything I don't like is Reddit xDDDD

Can we please lay this tired meme to rest?

>>6764873
It's almost like you pulled it straight out of your ass, or some website with zero credibility.

>>6764876
>this thread wasn't on reddit first
newfag pls

>>6764879
>my answer was wrong and now i'm mad
>bawwwwww
Grow up, kid.

>>6764842
>thousands of years

>>6764885
Until you prove that the website you got it from has credibility, or you didn't just make it up, I'm going to assume you're full of shit. Burden of proof is you, friendo.

>>6764882
I've never been at reddit, this is my first day on the internet. Is reddit a bad site to go?

>>6764886
They're 2000 years old and from Rome. OP calling them medieval is a moron.

>>6764834
So the second part of my answer right or wrong?

> the people who had the glasses made where very heavy drinkers and thus would always have a cup of wine/beer in their hands and when they where done a servant would come take the glass away

>>6764887
That's not how this works. /ck/ was asked a question, and they can either prove it doesn't have an answer (which you seem to believe is the case), or find the correct one.

>>6764894
The glasses had stems or holders. OP is a shitposting extraordinaire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaker_culture

>>6764834
Cause they wanted to drink the entire cup in one go and be drunk as fuck
No setting your wine down to have a chat or some shit, straight up drinking and nothing more

These cups weren't meant to be put down after being filled.

>>6764906
>>6764908
Wrong. They had stems.

>>6764834
You hold one in each hand and it's like playing a medieval version of the Edward 40 Hands drinking game.

In case you're not familiar, Edward 40 hands is where you get a 40 oz. duct taped to each hand.

>>6764911

Reverse image searching OP's photo suggests that you are incorrect.

>>6764915
Why? Because "historyforkids.org" says otherwise? That's the only source that says they couldn't be set down.

http://www.historyforkids.org/learn/food/wine.htm

Here's OP's super credible source. I wonder if his third grade teacher showed him the website.

>>6764923

http://ounodesign.com/2008/10/30/ancient-glass/ for one. There are others as well.

>>6764906
This is the answer. It was meant to be drunk at one time. The glass had to be laid down.

Thisdayinwine.com

“500-600 AD –a small cup with a thin stem was used by the upper classes, and the lower classes used goblets made of pottery. When the Saxons invaded they brought gold goblets covered in jewels and also horns that when used had to be taken as one drink because they had no stems or legs and had to be laid down.“

Lrn2google fuccboi's

>>6764926
>Here's OP's super credible source. I wonder if his third grade teacher showed him the website.
>my answer was wrong and now I'm butthurt
top kek

>>6764930
OP's exact image comes from http://www.historyforkids.org/learn/medieval/food/

It's interesting that one page on the site says they're medieval, while another one says they're Roman. Almost like that site is full of shit.

Also, the link you posted includes these exact words "The odd glasses below are from medieval europe; they probably once had either stems or stands. "

>>6764937

have you never heard of medieval rome?

>>6764933
>thisdayinwine
>historyforkids

Real credible sources there. Why does historyforkids, where you got your image, say they're both Roman and medieval?

>>6764939
>>6764939
Any source is better than your non source Reddit fag. Y so butthurt

>>6764949
not the same guy, but that's not how these things work. if you claim something, you have to prove it. i don't think OP went to college, because these are not credible academic sources

>>6764953
Finally, someone who isn't a fucking moron.

>>6764937
Holy fucking shit that entire fucking website my fucking christ god almighty. I know American education is bad, but my fucking god, this is just terrible. Why would someone do this? Why?
>people ate mostly barely
>disregard all grains
>disregard vegetables, cheese, local meats, and fruit
This is only the tip of the iceberg

OP how fucking old are you?

>>6764937

And from other places as well.

>>Also, the link you posted includes these exact words

Keep scrolling down to the comments, Broski. "probably" isn't an answer. The reply at the bottom is the credible answer.

>>6764939
And how does their credibility compare to you--a random anon posting online?

>>6764953
>"The odd glasses below are from medieval europe; they probably once had either stems or stands."

http://ounodesign.com/2008/10/30/ancient-glass/

There we go. That site is at the same level of credibility as OP's.

>>6764960
Burden of proof, my friend. Burden of proof. When OP posts an academic source, I'll concede. Until then, everything he has said is just conjecture.

>>6764962

The replies on that site sound a lot more credible than you, anon on 4chan.

>>6764983
Uncited claims are uncited. Are you not familiar with how academic writing works? If you make claims like that, you need to have a source.

>>6764971
>Until then, everything he has said is just conjecture.

That applies to you as well. You're just shitposting at this point.

>>6764991
No fucking shit. I just want OP to admit he's shitposting like I am.

I also want to know what he was doing on historyforkids.org. What would possess a grown man to go there, save a picture, and post it on /ck/?

Well, maybe he saw it first on reddit.

>>6764995
>What would possess a grown man to go there, save a picture, and post it on /ck/?

Uhm, Baiting for replies? Christ, just read OP!

>>6765013
How does he even know about it? Is OP in elementary school?

>>6765021
>what is Google

>>6765024
What the fuck could he have searched to get that image?

>>6765026
>medieval food

>>6765032
But how could someone who is college educated see the URL and even considering clicking on it?

>>6765037
consider*

>>6764898
>/ck/ was asked a question

OP asked a leading question which assumed a proposition. So it does work that way.

Until you can prove your presupposition that they *wanted* them that way, your question is a non-sequitur.

>>6765100
>expecting OP to know what a presupposition is

he's like 13

>>6764834
Wooden sockets.

Those don't look like drinking glasses

>>6764834
they had special codpieces with goblet stands built into them
made for some good party games later in the night

What evidence is there to even say these are cups?

This thread is lame

>>6764834
They didn't want the option of setting down their glasses to allow an assassin the chance to poison their unattended drink.
Am I right?

>>6766520
That's stupid.
Why wouldn't they just keep holding the drink or just toss it?

Good thread

All u tards got trolled hard

No stem cos they passed the goblet around and only drank from a single cup

>>6764834
IS this a real fucking question?

Because glass was fucking expensive in medieval times, and, if you haven't noticed, glasses are most likely to be broken when set down. Someone bumps it off a counter, kicks one on the ground, jars a table, etc.

So the idea was that you had it in your hand while it still had drink in it, and you never set it down for long except when storing it between meals.

It also helped like >>6764868 points out, that you were unlikely to lose your glass with alcohol currently in it if you had to hold it like that.

Further, it helped to keep things moderately civil at banquets, since having a cup with wine constantly in your hand meant it was a little less likely you'd pull a weapon, without dropping the glass and thus fouling your own footing.

>implying flat-bottomed drinking vessels haven't existed alongside drinking horns etc since forever and generally fulfill different functions.

>>6764865
Go fuck yourself. How about that?

And stop capslocking, nigger.

>>6764834
I don't know shit, but I'm assuming they drink it straight in one gulp, so when they put it down nothing will spill.

>>6764873
>reveal the answer
the answer being what you are currently denying.

>>6764933

They did have wine glasses with stems but setting down a wine glass was considered extremely rude and an insult to the host. So these glasses were innovated so you couldn't do that at all.

>>6764868
genius

because bell

inb4 they're not even drinking vessels and OP is captain of a ruse cruise

I want to know but I can't help but imagine the answer will be disappointing

>>6767284
kek. this makes so much more sense's than OP's retardation

>>6764834
looks like mooncups to me :P

I don't know much about the cups in OP's pic, but I'm guessing that it's some kind of variation on the Pythagoras cup.

If you overfill it (drink excessively), you lose all of the liquid.

If you fill your cup moderately, then you're fine.

>>6766660
>having a cup with wine constantly in your hand meant it was a little less likely you'd pull a weapon
Where I'm from a glass IS a weapon.

>>6764834
Hmmmmm. Look fucking familiar.

>>6771643
mfw
probably had stems or stands
OP really dropped the ball on this one

>>6773033
well he did want us to tear ourselves apart

Today, ladies and gentlemen, OP was truly a faggot.