/ck/ - Food & Cooking

All the ingredients. Looks expensive.

>>6818315
>ketchup

ayy lmao they almost had it

looks delicious.

>>6818323
It was from a UK website. I didn't know they used ketchup.

>Science-based
>taste is subjective
>triggered

Looks disgusting tbh

I never thought you could be so pretentious about something as blue-collar as a hamburger.

Anyway, my favorite burger is from a local pub. Angus beef, brie cheese and caramelized onions. Simple and delicious.

>"scientific"

no, fuck off

this is a meme burger and nothing else

>>6818315

>wagyu beef
>soy sauce splash
>sesame seed oil
>chipotle sauce
>camembert
>serrano ham

Just because you mix together good ingredients doesn't automatically mean they go well together and that it will be a great meal. It's a fucking burger just get some cheddar, good beef, bacon, lettuce, tomato and some sauce and it's gonna be a great burger, no need to be a pretentious cunt and mix shit that clearly doesn't go together. Just the thought of camembert with ketchup and pickles makes me cringe.

Fuck this.

No chipotle sauce, fuck that.
No ketchup, fuck that.
No soy sauce, fuck that.

I'd rather achieve my "umami" bullshit using sauteed mushrooms than soy sauce. And if you've properly salted and peppered your meat, you don't need the extra salt from the soy sauce to make the burger tasty.
Also, chipotle sauce is fucking nasty. Chipotle is great for chiles, achiote based sauces, and other dishes, but on a burger, it's just adding a non-needed, overly strong flavor. And fuck the ketchup. Fuck it in the ass. Mustard is 9999999 times better on a burger. And if I want spice, I'll use some grilled jalapenos or a habanero hot sauce or something with some acutal bite to it.

tomato slice is too big. especially with ketchup

>>6818315
looks like shit, not even a contender for perfect.
heres what a contender looks like.

>>6818315
>THICK tomato

why do cucks insist on putting tomatoes on hot sandwiches? i havent heard a single good argument for tomatoes on a burger other than "i-its always been like t-that"

>>6818499
where did you get those tasty looking burgers?

>>6818523
Tomatoes are utter shit any way.
Unless it's heirloom ones, but commercial hybrids grocery store ones are shit.

the perfect burger is just a template. you need either a smashed or fat patty with plenty of fat in either case, a fatty sauce and an acidic/sweet sauce, some kind of crisp vegetable and some kind of pungent/acidic vegetable. and a soft slightly sweet bun.

otherwise who the fuck cares.

>>6818537
It's about the ripening much more than the variety. Commercially grown tomatoes have very little sugar because they're picked green, and ethylene doesn't ripen them well.
They really should have specified that you should use a fresh tomato. (You'd think the word for that would be vine-ripened, but it isn't. Vine-ripened refers to where the tomato is when you spray the ethelyne.)

>>6818523

> i havent heard a single good argument for tomatoes on a burger other than "i-its always been like t-that"

it tastes good you autistic berk

>>6818546
>truck ripened water egg
>tastes good

what, exactly, does it taste like?
and how does that go well with a burger?

dont get me wrong friendo, i like tomatoes. they just do not work with burgers and are added to inflate value so restaurants can charge more. its filler

>>6818315
Not even close that looks Fukken whack
>tomato slice that thick

>>6818555
You're not complaining about tomatoes, you're complaining about types of tomatoes.

Tomatoes are fine on a burger. Commercially farmed tomatoes are worthless wherever you put them because they're not ripe.

>>6818523
I like the acid and sugar they provide. I agree that normal hydroponic tomatoes are gross, all they provide is water.

>>6818555

they taste good in burgers. welcome to the world of opinions.

>>6818565
It's the variety and how they are being "ripened" that's shit.
I've plenty experience with hydroponics and with the proper nutrients it doesn't taste any worse than tomatoes from soil+organic nutrients

>>6818555
Sorry to hear you've never had quality tomatoes

>camembert, serrano ham and wagyu

all completely fucking wasted in a burger.

>>6818315
I don't care what their data says about the taste one way or the other, but their construction sucks freshly oiled negro schlong.

>ketchup on a burger
lol, get the fuck out

>>6818555
>being retarded
sure

>>6818555
tbh i dislike burgers unless they have tomatoes and lettuce on them. a burger is a sandwich and sandwiches have tomatoes and lettuce. now kindly fuck off back to plebtown.

it's fucking nonsense and this guy looks like an insufferable prick

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11823677/How-to-make-the-perfect-burger-Oxford-food-scientist-claims-to-have-answer.html

>How the burger actually tastes in the mouth accounts for only the remaining 15 per cent, he claimed.

How about you fuck right off, Heston Mementhal wannabe skinny bong manlet douchefrat "chef"?

and take your shitty burger with you

>>6818315
wasting wagyu on a hamburger is quite possibly the dumbest thing ive ever heard.
minced beef allows you to take quality cuts and mix a specified fat% into it. why the fuck would you take a high fat integrated cut and waste it on minced beef?

its like mixing 300$ wine with carbonated water just to make a wine cooler.

I don't understand why people think a steak burger tastes better.


Grinding meat makes it tender, and we all know the most flavorful cuts tend to be tougher.

That's why chuck, brisket are the real meats you want to use.

That being said, is anyone else tired of this fucking thickburger trend?

I'd rather have multiple smaller patties any day.

>>6818612
Are you saying you'd enjoy a fine meal from a restaurant just as much if it were pureed? It would have the exact same taste, after all.

>>6818622
I think that was more of an experimental burger than a pracatical burger. Sure, there're better uses for wagyu, but wouldn't a wine cooler made from a $300 wine taste better?

>>6818523
A good tomato provides a little sugar and acid, which helps cut through the fat. I only add it if I have more fatty things than I have acidic things to balance.

Patty, red onion, fried egg = delicious
Patty, red onion, fried egg, avocado = good, but off balance
Patty, red onion, fried egg, tomato, avocado = delicious

If course I'm omitting stuff life sauces and greens, but you get the idea. Fat-acid-fat-etc

>>6818635
I concur. I like a seriously crusty, well seasoned sear on my burgers, and splitting your 4 or 5 oz of beef into several small patties means more surface area for that nice beefy sear to roam free on.

>>6818622
Agreed about it being a waste but maybe they're using up scraps or something.

>>6818644
Confirmed, glad to see I'm not the only one.

I like toppings too, but it has to be in balance. Nothing about the OP burger is balanced. It's just gay.

>>6818315
>chipotle sauce
this ruins the burger

yet another example of journalists running a story on 'science' because it's eye-catching and generates conflict between pretentious people and luddites despite the fact that very little actual 'science' is involved.

At least that tomater slice looks good.

Yeah, perfect if you're a snake that can unhinge it's jaws. I hate burgers like that. Pretentious horse shit. I'm enjoying MY perfect burger right now. Third lb 80/20 ground chuck, a bit of salt, pan fried medium. Non seeded bun. A slice good quality American cheese, (no "individual wrapped"), Thick slice of Tomato, Light mayo. I like bacon and ham but not on burgers.

>>6818320
no the best burger is

truffle oil grilled baguette
wagyu with truffle oil
truffles
foie gras
sauteed mixed mushrooms
smoked swiss cheese

>>6818717

the article specifically takes about how it needs to be a certain height so you can eat it.

>not getting your burger recipes straight from a cartoon

>>6818749
i want to eat the shit out of that

>>6818323
Even worse since they have soy sauce and meme ham.
Plus, I'm willing to bet that because the tomato is thicker than the beef, that it throws off the whole texture. But that's just my opinion,mane

>>6818315
>thick tomato
Garbage

>>6818523
I like the texture of a nice slice of tomato. It also adds a bit of flavor.

If you don't like them, don't order it with them.

>>6818315
SCIENCE xD!!!!
LOVE IT!!!!

LOVE SCIENCE!!!! XD

THANK YOU SCIENCE FOR
>LE PERFECT

BURGER!!! ZOINKS!!!

>>6818607
In practice I agree with you. I love me a salad on my burger. But dude. Sandwiches have bread, and a food item to separate the bread.

>>6818635
Disagreeing on thickness. I like my burgers on the medium rare side. It's a pain in the ass to get a sear and still have that on a thin patty. But hey, everyone has a preference.

>>6818772
PITANGA

>>6818717
Learn to squish a sammich.

>>6818328

fuck that giant slice of tomato

>>6818780
A bun is bread.
Burgers are sandwiches, but sandwiches aren't burgers. Get it? Sandwiches are usually bread, condiment, vegetables, meats, and cheeses. Exact what a burger is, except burgers typically have round buns, and use hot grilled/griddled beef patties.

And as if to prove my point, lol, the captcha asked to find all the sandwiches, and the only two were one of a burger and one of a sandwich.

>>6818785
Oh yeah, lets take hamburger meat and not cook it enough for the fat to render out. That makes sense!

Idiot.

>>6818315
>taller than it is wide
T R A S H

>>6818925

you don't want the fat to render out.

Not with that fuckhuge tomato slice it's not.

>>6818956

greasy burger is nasty burger

>>6818970
>dry burgers

I bet you order steak medium well too.

>>6818983
>Doesn't understand the difference between moist and greasy

>>6818315
>contains water fruit
>contains water fruit sauce with sugar
>perfect burger
LOL op you pleb tier faggot

>>6818970
>>6819001

there is no difference. you need to get the fat content right and don't cook it to the point where the fat escapes the burger because that is an utterly retarded thing to do.

this burger is a joke

>>6819024
>This is what americlaps actually believe

>>6819035

>this is what people who don't understand meat cookery actually don't believe

>ketchup

>>6818597
When I want your opinion I'll give it to you Meatwad..

>>6818315
>wagyu beef
being this big of a fucking weeb you use jap meat on an american staple.

also thinking you can science an art. smh.

>>6819065

you can science some aspects of an art but calling this shit science is obviously bullshit. it isn't 'science' that makes you put camembert on a burger it's terrible taste.

>tomato thicker than the meat

explain

>>6818315
>iced lettuce

>>6819024
Yeah but you don't want it to basically be still solid either, you need the fat to free flow and doing it medium rare leaves the fat where it is...

>>6819070
this tbh
so far nobody has explained why tomato is good on a burger

>have sandwich full of fat
>lets add this water to cut it ;^)

works too tbh

>sesame seeds
>iced lettuce>
>gherkin
>high test tomato
>sot sauce
>ham AND bacon

and worst of all

>cm

who let eurocucks make burgers?

>>6819079

yes you want the fat to melt, and this is achievable at medium rare, especially because it's ground up and therefore freed from any sturdy pieces of connective tissue that would insulate it and hold it in place. i mean, don't take it from me - you must have had a medium rare burger at some point in your life, is your impression genuinely that there were large solid pieces of fat?

>>6819096

> nobody has explained why tomato is good on a burger

because we don't have to, it is manifestly clear that enough people like it for you to shut the fuck up about it.

>>6819105
>im right because i say im right ;^)!

if everyone liked it why are there SEVERAL POSTERS IN THIS THEAD who have complained about it? ;^) tomato cucks go home

what is the appeal of a thick slice of tomato on a burger? why this?

i dont like tomato much on my burger anyway, but when I do indulge I'd way rather have two thin slices than one giant hunk of tomato

sounds like one tasty burger op

I felt that the burger was missing something. What do you guys think?

>>6819115

i didn't say everyone liked it, i said enough people like it, which is why it is in a significant proportion of all burgers ever made. your reasoning skills are utterly appalling. we don't need to make an argument for why someone would like it to convince you that people do actually like it. it is clearly a matter of opinion.

>>6819123
now its perfect

>>6819133

>>6819125
and im saying that the only reason a significant percent of burgers have tomatoes is because restaurants jack up the price of the burger because "its got a thick tomato ;^)" while adding LITERALLY NO VALUE

you are literally getting cucked by ordering a burger with a tomato

>>6819102
No, but I didn't feel as if most of these medium rare burgers were somehow magically more flavorful. They don't seem to ever pull off a good balance of being medium rare and having a good sear on the outside, then they go and ruin it with lots of meme toppings.

Not to mention, a thick piece of ground beef is just weird. They don't need to be half pound patties. 1/4 pound patties are the perfect size.

>>6819141

>and im saying that the only reason a significant percent of burgers have tomatoes is because restaurants jack up the price of the burger because "its got a thick tomato

which is utter unreason and patently incorrect.

>>6819141
You're fucking stupid.

>>6819150


see

>>6819139


tomatoes are a scam

>>6818318
7 inches isn't mouth sized, dumb fucks. A good burger shouldn't be a testament of how much shit you can fit in your mouth in one bite.

>>6819260

learn to read

>>6819141
>tomato is what jacks up the price
Are you retarded?

Tomatoes are retarded, but are you also retarded?

>>6818328
>7cm
kek
right, what fucking kind of a slut has that big of mouth
>oh you just squish it until it can fit
and have everything slip out the other side? fuckin joke

>>6818749
>The Boondocks
>The itis

MY NIGGA! I made this shit famous at an eatery in Mississippi, but had them use funnel cakes instead of donuts. They didn't really give me credit though :( Fucking redneck cucks

>>6819123
kek

what's the deal with "fancy" burgers having the same grossly oversized ground beef patties as ones I get from the fish and chip shop?
Seriously, there is no need for a patty that's the same thickness as the top bun. If you want a stack of meat, get like... an actual steak sandwich or something? Most of these patties are barely above sausage-tier, even the "wagyu" (lol) ones lose appeal when they're that oversized, the idea of a burger is all the flavours should harmonise with each other, there shouldn't be a fight to get past the salad and then a huge lump of pre-chewed meat.

>>6818772
>>6818794

>>6819052
Be quiet and stay dead.

what the fuck is a gherkin

>>6818315
>lettuce + gherkin
>ham + onion slice
11
11 fucking layers
God damn it

>>6819483
>gherkin
I think it's a pickle.

>>6819483
>what the fuck is a search engine

>>6818315
Jesus fuck look at that tomato, it takes up a good size of it

>>6818315
>>6818318
>>6818320
I'm curious to know where this came from.
>inb4 "Japan"

>>6820040

read the thread. he's a french-colombian chef doing a research project at oxford uni. the telegraph picked up and ran an article on some frivolous bullshit he came up with.

>>6819068
Agree tbh, a burger needs cheddar, not fucking le ebic fancy bitter ass camembert

>>6818315

>7cm

So it's the size of my thumbnail? The fuck is with this hipster molecular gastronomy shit

>>6818320

Why would you grind wagu? Can't you dial ground beef to whatever fat/meat ratio you want at half the cost

Would you rather eat the OP pic or the Glam Burger?

>220g of prime Kobe wagyu beef, 60g of New Zealand venison and a poached Canadian lobster tail, all topped with a black truffle brie, maple syrup bacon and grated white truffle; suitably served in an edible gold bun
>£1100

>>6820618
too many competing flavours, keep it simple stupid.

>>6820618

>brie

again ruining burgers with completely unsuitable cheeses.

>>6820618

Do they really serve it on a roofing tile?

>>6820646

Where have you been the last 20 years

>>6818320

This is a very delicious burger. I have tried it and it is very delicious.

>>6818499
Those look pretty good. The one on the right has a bit too much mayo for my tastes but still, would eat.

>>6820618
that stupid sundae will at least taste like a sundae
this thing is just a stupid mashup of memefoods that don't fit together at all

>>6820770

>that stupid sundae will at least taste like a sundae

the one with 'dessert caviar'?

>>6818315
The perfect burger needs to be wider than it is tall.

>>6820787
So it needs to look like you?

You know something is worthless when it's presented as info graphic.

>>6818315
>Lettuce

Failed right there, flappy bland shit.

Napa cabbage is where it's at, flavour and crunch

>>6818315
>>6818320
The fuck is my Dijon, my pickles and my goddamn raw onions?

>>6818726
Underrated post

>>6819386
go back to /tv/

>scientific burg
Here's my lunch
Burg with the usual fixings,burger sauce, onion rings, bacon, cheddar cheese and maple syrup on it

>>6818726

>>6821891
>burg
What? What the fuck do you mean by that? Like a town? You ate a town for lunch?

>>6821856

>>>>2chan weebs

>>6821895

>>6821899
Yes please with extra sauce

>>6821908

>>6819068
this, it's not even science

that's like fedoras calling all of their arguments rational

>>6821918

o'rly? then how did they scientifically prove it, like it says, faggot?

>>6820618
>lobster tail and kobe beef

>>6821895
>>6821908
>>6821914
Kill yourself

>>6821925
>o'rly

are you icycalm or are you just stuck in 2008?

>>6818603
This

>>6821936

Yeah, that's what I thought. You can't explain proven scientific facts so you just try to use personal insults, candyass.

>>6821960

fucking mods are tomato shills

>>6818315
For ketchup plebeians who like ketchup.

>>6818315
>taste buds being objective
>science based best burger
fuck is that some stupid ass shit

>>6822622
Oh for fucks sake, people that don't like tomatoes are basically children. I bet you don't like oysters either because "ew slimy xD" Piss off back to your tendie thread, robot.

>>6823302
slimy textures are really revolting tho if youre not used to it

>not:
>bun
>ketchup
>grilled onions
>bacon
>cheese (something decent, not that american shite)
>burger
>ketchup
>grilled onions
>bacon
>cheese
>burger
>ketchup
>bun

with some chips and ketchup for dipping

>>6823325
you forgot bacon

>>6818607
>a burger is a sandwich
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP YOU STUPID FUCKING MONG I HATE YOU FUCKING AMERICAN SUBHUMANS A BURGER IS NOT A FUCKING SANDWICH STOP CALLING IT ONE

>>6823331
it is tho

>>6823331
>hamburger (also called a beef burger, hamburger sandwich, burger, hamburg or cheeseburger when served with a slice of cheese) is a sandwich consisting of one or more cooked patties of ground meat, usually beef, placed inside a sliced bun. Hamburgers may be cooked in a variety of ways, including pan-frying, barbecuing, and flame-broiling. Hamburgers are often served with lettuce, bacon, tomato, onion, pickles, cheese and condiments such as mustard, mayonnaise, ketchup, relish, and green chile.[1]

KYS

>>6823331
sand·wich
ˈsanˌ(d)wiCH/Submit
noun
1.
an item of food consisting of two pieces of bread with meat, cheese, or other filling between them

Burger fits the description m8

>>6823333
>>6823336
>>6823353
Sandwiches are cold you faggots, and they're also made with slices of bread from a loaf, not buns.

also nice quads

Perfect burger:

Sprinkle a little salt on patty, cook it over a wood fire grill, flip once, and then wait for it to finish cooking. Put a slice of freshly sliced cheddar on it. Put that on a bun after allowing the cheese to melt a bit. Eat.

All you need. Anything more is meatloaf or just a salad.

>>6823394

>>6818499
Good lord, that looks amazing.

>>6823331
Tell that to the captcha.

>>6823305
>not liking slimy things
>implying women like getting jizzed all over their face and inside their fugging mouth-hole

>>6823331

It was originally called a hamburger sandwich back in the 40's, mate.

>I literally don't know history

Just tested on /b/.
Anon was not amused.

>>6823394

>Sandwiches are cold

grilled cheese

I love hamburg sandwiches!
>thank you based Germany

>>6824125
>grilled cheese
>isn't actually grilled
How dumb must you be......

>>6818315
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU PUT KETCHUP ON THAT

>>6824142

not relevant

still a hot sandwich

That isn't a Big Buford.

Your burger a shit.

>>6818320
Everytime I hear "Umami" I get a little rage.

I get it. I get that its a thing. I still hate it.

>>6818328
Looks slippery.

I'm only 23 and my jaw cannot handle this.

>>6823394
Monte Cristo/Croque Monsieur - Fried.
Banh mi - Uses a baguette.
Barbecue (Pulled Pork, Beef Brisket, etc) - Served on buns
Bauru - Brazilian sandwich served in a French Roll
Bosna- Austrian Grilled Sandwich
Cemita - Mexican sandwich served on a roll.
Grilled Cheese Sandwich - A sandwich of cheese that has been toasted, fried, or grilled.
Philly Cheesesteak Sandwich - Hot meat and filling.
Cubano - a sandwich cooked on a plancha
Cudighi- Italian hot sausage sandwich
Gastby - The South African version of a Hoagie

Hoagies, Grinder, Heros, any kind of sub sandwich.

katsu sando - Japanese Sandwich of hot breaded pork cutlet.

You are wrong in every fucking continent, practically every COUNTRY.

"Sandwich" refers to "food in between or inserted into bread." The end. Hot, cold, loaf, bun. Doesn't fucking matter.

>>6818749
Oh god is that the Itis?

sesame bun
mayo
mustard
pickles
onions
lettuce
mixed ground beef and ground sirloin patty
fried egg, over medium
strawberry jam spread on the bottom bun

Where's the egg you damn commie?

>>6825776
Baurus aren't served in French rolls

Which makes me think, have I been making all the foreign food all wrong this whole time?

>>6818499
Looks legit. I'd eat that over OP's mess of shit.

>>6818607
So peanut butter and jelly sandwiches have tomato and lettuce on them? Reubens have tomato and lettuce on them? Cubans have tomato and lettuce on them?

Son, burgers have what ever the fuck you want on them. Clearly tomato and lettuce is your autism trigger, but you need to recognize that a large portion of the burger eating populace, does not always have t&l on their burger all the fucking time. Sometimes it's just some fried onion and a slice of cheese.

>>6825878
>strawberry jam spread on the bottom bun

Fucking tryhard

>>6826138
Eggs aren't bad but they add very little to burgers

>>6819260
7cm americlap, 2,76".

>>6819123
This is how you fucking do it, you pleb.

>>6823398
Noone gives a shit it's still not a sandwich

>>6821931
Surf and turf nigger