/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>7564606
Generic 5/5 strength ground roast coffee from Lidl
First time using a French press and it's a lot nicer than Nescafe instant which is way too bitter and acidic.
I can drink this black coffee for days.

Folgers Black Silk, French Press. Not that good, but cheap, and I drink too much coffee to justify good stuff every day.

>General

Kenya Nyeri, roasted myself and made in my Caravel.

Quite good.

>>7564606
How do you fix wobly lower burr in kario? I cant make proper frenchpress grind

>>7564875
There are bearing kits for the skerton, but honestly the Hario grinders are trash either way. Get an Encore at the absolute minimum.

>>7564606
Counter culture fast forward

Brewed in a v60

Kalita Wave 185. Love this thing.

>>7564870
What do you roast with? Been looking into roasting lately, huky's are interesting.

>>7564924
I have a roastbee, which is kind of like the German Huky. I like it.

How often do you guys add milk to your coffee?

>>7565320
I usually only have it with espresso, not with my daily coffee. Milk fucks my stomach up, especially in the morning.

>>7565320

every morning with my cappucino and again in the evening with my post work latte

tonight i added a spoonful of condensed milk to my whole milk before i steamed it. added it to a double shot of espresso, and topped it with a shake of ground cinnamon.

>>7565320
Never. I might add sugar, but milk and cream completely change the flavor for me.

>>7565320

Whenever the coffee is too fucking hot which is usually.

>>7565320
Never.

By count of drinks (not volume) I drink probably 95% espresso shots and 5% brewed coffee. Maybe an espresso drink with milk (cappuccino or less) once or twice a year. Just not a big fan.

Counter Culture's Big Trouble blend. It's rather solid, although maybe not as good as I would have imagined it to be, given that it's 2 weeks off roast. I'll try changing my grind up. I'm brewing it up in a french press. I bought a bonavita gooseneck kettle today and I'm getting a v60, or maybe even a chemex, Soon(TM). It's a great feels knowing the exact temp of your water, no worrying about your water being too cold or hot.

>>7564875
This
>>7564892
Good electric burr grinders are expensive but it beats the shit out of dealing with hand grinders.

>>7565320
Maybe like 3 times a year. I'm lactose intolerant and I don't see a lot of point in milk, especially for brewed coffee.

How can I make a latte without a steamer?

>>7566268
If you have a french press you can froth milk with it and get something steamed milk-esque. You can also put some milk in a jar and shake the living shit out of it.

>>7565320
I've been drinking cheap coffee lately so usually I add it. It makes it not taste as cheap and bad. If i have a decent fresh coffee it doesn't need it, though I always add sugar cause I really like sweets and drink coffee as a desert almost.

I always take a long black, just like my wife.

>>7566332
can confirm

t.his wife's son

>>7566307

what about just heating the milk on the stove or something?

Thinking about buying one of these this week

>>7566410
i used to make it with a cheap frother, about 5$, works fine, just make sure the milk is hot and batteries in the frother are good

>>7566970
The fuck is that?
Looks like one of those things that makes sausage

Boyer's Kona Blend
Hario Skerton
French Press

My stupid friend made it

>>7567427
Strietman CT-1. Makes espresso, don't imagine it's terribly good at making sausage.

espresso and cappuccino with LaMarzocco Linea Mini. Sooooo gooood

>>7564606
Just made simply Sarah's iced coffee. Suprisingly good.

>go to insomia for lunch
>watch their "baristas" while eating my toastie

I get that it's a chain and I shouldn't expect much but how can you be a professional coffee maker and still not put a single ounce of effort into learning how to make proper coffee? How the fuck do they even get these jobs? I'm so fucking done with chains.

>>7567742
The way you worded your post, I thought you were going their to check out their baristas.

>>7567795
Nah they're bet. Cafe Nero has some hotties tho.

>>7564923
>not pre-wetting the filter
>corrugated filter for a hand pour

how many instagram likes did you get for this pic?

Locally roasted moka java in an aeropress.

>>7567858
It is pre-wetted and those are the standard kalita wave filters, I didn't design them. Nice try though.

>>7567864
Sounds like you need to find a new roaster

Burundi Kiriyama
EK43 set to 6 on the 3fe dial
16.5:270
95C, 70GH/35KH
Aeropress, standard method
Stir as early as possible for 3-5 seconds
Dump that water in and press at 30s
Finish at 1min

Grinding really fine to get the desired particle range to be as close as possible to the fines to get a nice even extraction.

Quite balanced, with notes of Meyer lemon, Toffee, Sweet Tobacco, and a slight rose/floral character.

>>7568178
I love posts like this. There's something charming about this level of pretentious obsession. It proves that you don't need sex to live a passionate life, and it lets me stop worrying about all the betas out there.

>>7568298
You're right, I should pretend to be disinterested in things so chicks will bang me.

Also, google pretentious and see how your post is more pretentious than mine.

>>7566970
>$1500

holy fucking shit.

I spent 25 dollars (was half off) on a pressure steamer moteo jo and it makes espresso perfectly fine in as clean of a method as that thing would.

>>7568322
just a friendly tip anon, acting more disinterested in a chick is EXACTLY how you start the path to getting them to bang you.

>>7568340
It's actually a bit more after currency conversation and shipping.

It is pricy compared to even a lot of heat exchanger or double boiler pump machines, and it's fair to compare it's price to those. But I much prefer the lever. My Arrarex Caravels are fantastic, but I'd like to move up a notch.

Your machine doesn't even make the same product however. Steam based machines are incapable of making actual espresso.

Brazil Daterra Joia Organic in a V60

I'm not such a big fan of this coffee considering it was about 14 dollars for 250g. I'm going to try cold-brewing it though, I think it would suit it.


What's the cheapest esspresso machine that is actually good? inb4 Aeropress, Moka Pot etc.

>>7568388
whats wrong with a moka pot?

Eight O clock French roast and a tad bit of hazelnut creamer is amazing.

>>7568364
>...Your machine doesn't even make the same product however. Steam based machines are incapable of making actual espresso.

All i care about is it having the highest concentrated amount of cafeine. Wiki says it is higher than traditional espresso machines. Care to verify?

>Moka pots are sometimes referred to as stove-top espresso makers and produce coffee with an extraction ratio similar to (but somewhat higher than) that of a conventional espresso machine.[8]

>>7568406
I love it and I already have one, it's just not espresso though.

>>7568360
In some cases. But that has nothing to do with me liking coffee you dummy.

>>7568418
>All i care about is it having the highest concentrated amount of cafeine.
they make caffeine pills

>>7568433
True, I do like the ritual of actually DRINKING coffee though.

Wait anon, you just gave me a great idea: Crack open one of those liquid pills into my "not"-espresso made with a moka

>>7568418
I don't make coffee for caffeine so I don't really care.

>>7568418
>Wiki says it is higher than traditional espresso machines.
No reason for this to be true. Concentration of caffeine comes down to a few things:

>Coffee Species
Robusta has nearly double the caffeine per gram when compared with Arabica, and both have much more than Eugenioides.

>Brew Ratio
If you use a more coffee per gram of water, then you will have more caffeine per gram of beverage.


Either way, the wiki is wrong.

>>7564606
Just had my first cup of turkish coffee from my new cezve. Very nice.

>>7564633
If it isn't ground coarse, you might get a "chewy" cup

coffee noob here, is a french press the best/simplest way to make coffee? I can make tea anytime but for some reason making coffee in my regular machine feels like too much work.

This seems like just the compromise. I've been drinking instant recently but would like to go back to the real deal.

>>7568388
Probably the gaggia classic. It comes with a pressurized portafilter and a panarello so you'd have to mod those two things to enter decent tier.

>>7570103
Yes french press is practically idiot proof compared to moka pots or pour overs.

>>7568428

Even when it makes crema it isn't?

>>7570242
It does not make crema. Not every differently colored or bubbly part of coffee is crema. It is literally impossible for a moka pot to create actual crema.

>Espresso with dash of salt sprinkled on top of grounds

don't be so fast to dismiss it until you have tried it

>>7570529
benefits?

>>7564606
3 parts Brazil Fazenda do Sertao
2 parts Sumatra Lintong Opung James
1 part Burundi Bubanza Ngara

Full City roast in a Poppery II popcorn maker

Brewed in a 6 cup Bialetti Moka Express

Taken with a dollop of half-and-half

It tasted perfect.

this is the only one i ever drink

>>7570529
I've heard this was common in the military as a way to cut the bitterness when they didn't have cream.

Two tea spoons of instant coffee and one tea spoon of sugar. No milk. Black coffee is objectively the best coffee.

I just popped some Death Wish coffee in my Keurig.

>>7570893
what is that pure HFC?

>>7570893
The only good thing about nescafe is the mugs. I got a few old ones from some promo years ago.

Tastes like shit though.

>>7568571
M80 different brewing methods yield different amounts of caffeine using the same amount of coffee. The metal filter on a moka pot would have bigger pours than a porta filter. This is basic as fuck.

collombian mild (light) roast to keep my day going strong from a closeby coffee shop.

>>7564606
Americano espresso with equal parts regular milk added made in a Lavazza Espresso Point machine using a Tierra coffee capsule.

>>7571185
>M80 different brewing methods yield different amounts of caffeine using the same amount of coffee
Not even remotely true. Caffeine is incredibly soluble. That means it will extract pretty much within the first 30 seconds of any brew nearly completely. Caffeine has no trouble fitting through the pores in paper filters. This is basic as fuck.

>>7570841
it counter-acts the bitterness and helps bring out the flavours of the bean, it also allows that dark lingering taste to last for a very long time compared to the usual 20 seconds after finishing the espresso

>>7564606
I just got given a nespresso machine. It's the best coffee I've had outside of going to bars. I've bought a new set of cups for my coffee. Dunno if I'll keep it up though as capsules double the cost of coffee at the very least. It's still cheaper than going down to the bar and having to mingle with the locals.

Usually I just toss in a bunch of instant coffee in a cup then I put hot tap water in that bitch. Put an ice cube in after so I can drink it sooner.

I call it dirty coffee and it tastes like shit

>>7566970
Are you rich?

You must be. What a waste of money. You could probably buy a proper high-end, small Espresso machine for that money.

Also, you could actually buy something of worth -- like a holiday.

>>7567742
Are you Irish?

I am. I hate Insomnia Cafes -- the owner Bobby Kerr is some cunt.

Awful, overpriced shite. Typical Dubs flock to those places, though. No fucking sense to go to a proper cafe. Having said that, everything's overpriced in Dublin.
The feeling in Insomnia and Starbucks is just cheap and tacky. I don't know why people would want to spend time there. They feel like a cheap airport cafe with the grubby sections where you put your cinnamon or coco on your coffee in its stupidly oversized mug, which contains 98% milk and 2% coffee.

>>7572121
This is a proper high end small espresso machine. I'd take it over almost any pump machine short of a Slayer.

I'm not what I'd call rich, but I live very simply in most areas and only splurge for hobbies and experiences. So I tend to have disposable income left over.

>>7570866
>going through the trouble of making your own blend and roasting it just to mute the flavors with half and half

no face

How expensive is making nice coffee in comparison to just instant no-work?

Why does every coffee I get say "use 6 fl oz of water for every tablespoon of coffee". isnt that an insane amount of water?

>>7570893
I use nescafe in morning protein shakes. No other reason to use it.

>>7568178
How did you align your ek?

>>7572872
Calibrated with 1 being as close to burr rub as possible. Espresso at 2.5-3.

Aligned with the typical marker/shim method.

>>7572906
What is this marker method? I've tried it like three times with perfect results but it sounds unaligned when they're chiming and it's winding down. Like it chimes every now and then instead of the whole way when it's slow.

>>7572916
Sounds like you are hearing the shaft play. Alignment with this method (and any sort of method you can do without machining new parts) is pretty limited. There will be plenty of misalingments within the grinder that it won't correct.

It sounds like the shaft that the moving burr carrier is on is a little loose on the shaft - which you can't do much about.

I think you've got the grind paranoia - how many times a day are you looking at your grounds really close up and humming and hawing and looking up pictures of grounds on the internet?

I did that shit for months. If the marker test looks good, then you've done what you can. Well, as far as I know at least - I don't have any experience with a bunnzilla.

If you feel like it, you can upload a picture of them grounds and I'll post one of mine for comparison. Not sure how much insight it will give, but who cares.

For ease of evaluation, spread the grounds out on some white paper so that they aren't heaped at all.

Here is mine - super close up of 11 on the dial (bout half way) the coin is a dime.

>>7572993
Thanks! If that's a good grind from an aligned ek, then I'm set. I thought those boulder pieces meant imperfect alignment. I'll take a picture tomorrow. I'm half asleep now. When I'm half asleep near my grinder I get caught up trying to find ways to get calipers in there and stupid shit. The coffee is fantastic, so now that I have some sort of explanation for a possible source of sounds I can calm the fuck down and stop trying to fix nonexistent problems.

And impatiently wait for this Strietman.

>>7567858
nice try

>>7568160
Not that person but Mokka is a varietal and Java is a region. Sounds like you need to learn to coffee.

>>7573324
Mocha*

While what you said is correct refering to varietal and port location, you are a bit uninformed.

Mocha Java is a name given to blends which seek to fulfill a similar flavor profile as the one which was sought after many years ago. One created by blending Yemeni and Indonesian coffees.

Often times modern blends involve neither. Also, both regions are a bit infamous among specialty coffee as they typically produce quite low quality coffee - with a few exceptions of course. These exceptions fetch a bit of a high price because of the rareness of great coffee from these regions. Someone paying a premium for these coffees would not be likely to blend them, and would be even less likely to blend them and call them by this 2nd wave name.

This is why I recommended he seek new roasters. Because what he bought certainly was not this improbable coffee that I described, but instead more likely to be a blend of a cheap Sumatran and a cheap Ethiopian (probably natural processed).

Sorry for your confusion.

>>7573361
Is Sumatra really considered to be a poor area for coffee? I've generally liked what I've had from there.

last week i bought some starbucks coffee for my keurig

drank it all, and it wasn't until i went to put the box in the recycling that i noticed it was decaf

i had been drinking about a cup a day at breakfast

>>7573411
Yes and no. It's good for what it does. George Howell sells or sold decent Sumatran coffee. The process of making coffee there as well as the other aspects of the environment and grow yield very earthy coffee that tastes completely out of place among the bright third wave stuff people are used to today. it's somewhat inferior unless you like darker roast tastes. overall it has a pipe tobacco taste.

>>7573850
A well developed light roasted Sumatran can be fairly fruity. Not as much as some other Indonesian coffees though in my experience.

>>7573411
Typically, yes. The processing is pretty dismal, leading to a lot of defects and a generally rustic, dirty flavor taint.

should I cop?

i have a pod coffee machine, its ok but would rather get a cafetiere or regular filter coffee machine.

but saying that i gave up vaping (which i used to give up smoking) like 2 weeks ago and I think cafine may be the next thing on my gonna quit list

>>7574088
>addicted to coffee
no such thing

>>7564606
Instant coffee granules in water

fite me

>>7574080
no

>>7574104
y?

>>7574108
Why pay to make trash coffee at home when you could spend the money on a nice grinder and make nearly cafe quality filter brews and then go out when you want an espresso and have it done right without any fuss?

>>7574115
>trash coffee
and where do you base that claim on? do you even know Krups? are you an american who's never heard of Krups?

>>7574118

Everyone has heard of Krups, anon. But the fact is that it's still a home-type machine. It's not going to be able to compete with a proper professional machine at a cafe.

>>7574118
Krups is shit that is incapable of good coffee.

>>7574140
Plenty of home machines can compete with professional ones. Even a Vesuvius is a home machine technically. But not the Krups or anything in it's price category.

>>7574156
>>7574140
>le coffee snobs
jesus, it's just like Reddit

>>7574157
Once you've had a god shot you'll never look back.

>>7574158
>I had nothing left in my life that was worth anything. so I became a coffee hipster

>>7574159
At least that's a few steps above a 4chan shitposter.

>>7574158
or you will because you admit that you drink coffee more for the stimulation than the taste, and the better taste is just a bonus and not essential

10/10 keurig coffee is awesome, great birthday gift from my old man.

>>7574160
actually, you can't go lower than that.

>>7574162
>drinking zionist coffee
jesus christ

>>7573904
>>7573850
I see, thanks. I actually do prefer much darker roasts, so I see now why i like it so much more than a lot of the stuff I might find at, say, Intelligentisa.

>>7574186
Yup, makes sense. If you dig it, that's all that matters.

>>7572148
Yep Irish. It was the one on Nassau street. Total shit.
Have you ever tried the smaller coffee shops? Heard great things about Kaph and 3FE.

>>7572993
Sample grind at 5 and two dots on the trifecta dial, which is a bit past halfway leaning to coarse. US nickel and a Canadian two dollar coil I found laying around for scale.

Cold brew coffee, steeped in milk instead of water. It's amazing.

Baratza Encore
Bonavita BV1800

Made the Get-In-Gear Morning blend from Happy Mug.

I enjoy it

>>7566339
This is the best meme

Turkish coffee uber alles.

Shit pour though, I rushed it.

Forgive me, /ck/?

>>7570070
Turkish coffee is a very nice change from espresso. I prepare mine on and induction stove with a metal camping mug hah, then skim the top with a spoon. Tastes fugging neato

>>7572745
A lot more

>>7574095
Agreed.

>>7576571
*greek coffee

>>7576774
Mr. Papadopoulous plz go

>>7564633
get turkish

>>7564606
Melitta Dark, in terms of supermarket coffees its pretty good. If I was still in Toronto I would be drinking Kicking Horse Grizzly Claw.

French press, black.

>Lidl [a shop like Aldi] Coffee
>In a moka pot
>add hot water
>add frothed milk
>add cocoa to froth
How'd I do?

>>7577254
also, quick follow up. Any local Montreal brands I should find?

>>7577254
Lavazza qualita oro is better desu senpai

>>7577262
>adding milk to coffee
why drink coffee if you don't like the taste of coffee?

>>7576743
>then skim the top with a spoon
>then skim the top with a spoon
>then skim the top with a spoon

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

THAT'S THE BEST FUCKING PART! IN FACT THAT'S HOW YOU JUDGE, THE QUALITY OF THE BEANS/ROAST AND HOW WELL-PREPARED THE COFFEE IS.

OH MY GOD MAY ZEUS BURN YOU WITH THUNDER ΒΡΩΜΙΑΡΗ ΚΩΛΟΧΟΝΤΡΕ ΣΙΧΑΜΕΝΕ ΑΜΕΡΙΚΑΝΕ

t. Papadopoulos

>>7577574
Why bother adding chocolate chips to cookies? Why bother putting butter or olive oil on bread? Why add anything to anything else that isn't strictly necessary? Of course, this isn't about taste, it's about proving that you're more serious about your drug infused dirt water than everyone else.

>grind on 4
>espresso is bitter, barely flows
>grind on 5
>espresso is sour, comes out in a torrent
What did I ever do to offend the coffee god's so?

>>7576571
Can't ever make the second rise work. I've pretty much just given up.

>>7578450
it's actually about taste.

>>7578519
You're welcome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUSzYbYQko4

>>7578526
Then explain how it's objectively bad when my other examples aren't

>>7578527
Translated in order of appearance:

Low Flame (Heat)

Lukewarm Water till dotted line and if you want sugar add it in with the water

Stir to melt the sugar

Add coffee without stirring

Mix when it starts to bubble

When it lifts take it off the fire and tap it twice (important step, it cools the coffee and makes the grinds fall back down)

After the second lift, remove

Pour like a boss

Enjoy

>>7578527
why is that ground coffee red/orange instead of dark brown/black?

>>7578551
Blend/Roast. Greek coffee in Greece is usually a lighter roast and a mix of 2 parts Brazilian to 1 part Ethiopian.

>>7578537
Not him, but the examples you posted are simple flavors that often need something more. Coffee is more along the lines of wine or steak. You want to get the subtleties out of it. I'm more than willing to add sugar to a shitty coffee I picked up from the gas station or something, but if you're drinking a good coffee, adding extra ingredients to it is going to mask the good stuff.

>>7578556
>Brazilian
>>7578556
>Ethiopian
what is the difference between the two?

>>7578628
Just google Brazilian and Ethiopian coffee strains. Don't dwell on that too much. I'm Greek and I've used all sorts of blends and single-estate coffees to make Greek coffee. Just try getting a light roast and a very very find grind (even finer than Espresso).

>>7578612
You don't have to drown it in milk. You also don't always need to get every last bit of nuance out of the coffee. I know what my beans taste like black. I don't have to be reminded every single time I have coffee, especially since I've probably had them that way less than 24 hours before. So, a lot of mornings I make a cortado.

I also think the steak thing is idiotic. Just because your parents drowned their steak in A1 to cover up how badly your mom overcooked it doesn't mean you have to sperg out every time someone puts something something other than salt and pepper on theirs. Especially if it's chimichurri.

>>7578654
Even a little milk completely changes the flavor. If you like it that way, it's fine, but you are going to get called out for masking some of the best parts of the coffee when you post about it.

>>7578651
but why a light roast? care to explain?

>>7578665
I'm aware of all this, and it's fine if other people only ever drink it black, but complaining about what other people do with their coffee is stupid.

>>7578677
If you don't want commentary or critique then don't make a post in a public space. The nature of this whole setup is that people will post their opinions on other opinions endlessly, and their opinion is that adding milk is bad. What do you want?

>>7578670
No idea, that's just how people in Greece like it and I assume that's why most coffee merchants/cafes use lighter roasts. There those who like it darker but they're the minority and you usually have to ask for it. Other countries aren't like that. In my experience Turks and Arabs use much darker roasts and add cardamom (which was traditionally done to mask the flavour of bad quality coffee allegedly)

>>7572790
No, 6 fl oz is only about half of your typically sized mug, so 12 fl oz of water and 2 tablespoons of coffee will give you about a mug's worth of coffee. It's just the general guideline ratio for drip coffee. You should be adjusting from that ratio according to your taste of course.

>>7574080
No.

>>7578527
>>7578540
Didn't even come close to working.
Second rise was just a violent boil devoid of any texture, same as it ever is.

>anything but pic related
I pity the fool

>>7578893
>Pitying people who have grinders and drink better coffee than Bustelo

>>7578771
What grind are you using? Is it really really fine? It needs to be twice as fine as espresso, powder-like. You can't get this with most grinders (e.g the Hario). Has someone ground it for you or are you doing it yourself? How much water and how much coffee are you using?

This guys make amazing coffee if you can find it I wholly recommend it. Perfectly suited for espresso or Moka pot.

>>7578893
Absolutely disgusting. At least get yourself some lavazza or illy. Only hipsters pretend that bustelo tastes good.

>>7578956
NYC here, I can explain. At one time, NYC had terrible coffee (still mostly does). For instance, Porto Rico Coffee Company, which is by all objectives measures shit-tier, was considered one of the best coffee shops in the city with their heaps and heaps of stale, vanilla-scented beans where the staff would scowl at you if you asked about roast dates.

In those days, people did their best with grocery store coffee, and Bustelo was actually not such a bad choice by the standards of the time. It was (at the time) dirt cheap, and roasted dark as fuck to be mixed with an obscene amount of sugar and scorched milk.

In modern times the only people who drink it are retards who just moved into Bed-Stuy to live just like Lena Dunham on Girls(tm), even actual ricans and dominicans drink Pilon because it's cheaper. Anyone who doesn't care about coffee just drinks random cheap crap at home, or whatever the pakistani coffee cart guy is pouring on the way to the office, and anyone who does care has moved on to whatever "good" coffee is now available in his neighborhood.

So basically by drinking Bustelo you are saying you are trying to ape the habits of a 2003-era hipster.

>>7578930
Baratza virtuoso slammed all the way down. It's definitely way finer than when I make espresso.
4oz water to 2 teaspoons coffee.

>>7579014
That's the right ratio and the right grind. I honestly can't tell what you're doing wrong. Are you doing it on a low heat? You need to make sure you take it off and tap it twice like in the video (the longer you keep it off the stove for the more your coffee will cool down, thus preventing it from overboiling when you go for the second lift).

P.S. Few people bother with the second lift. I'd say 2 out 3 greek coffees you will be served are one lift, exactly because it's not very easy to attain.

>>7578504
Get a good stepless or micro step grinder.

What are you using now?

>>7578504
Things to do that cost no money:
>Re-calibrate grinder so that the zero point is slightly different from what it is now
>lower the pressure on your espresso machine
>reduce dose and use grind size 4 until proper flow-rate is achieved
>increase dose and use grind 5

Or buy a new grinder.

>>7564606
>yfw when you make that first espresso after descaling your machine for the first time in 5 years

>>7579357
>>reduce dose and use grind size 4 until proper flow-rate is achieved
This is what I do, but it's still too bitter, as well as fine enough that some grinds make it through the filter.

>>7579621
>too bitter
Tighten your brew ratio - use less water. Extraction of espresso is incredibly linked to the amount of espresso produced.

>some grinds make it through the filter
That is to be of all coffee made with metal filtration. If you are getting large pieces in the espresso, then there is something else wrong.

>>7578431
Nigguh, are you serious? I've seen people make turkish coffee on youtube and they skim off all the coffee grains before serving. I'm not turkish or greek, but i assume it's got to do with personal preference.

>>7578450
I agree with you, brah. Ignore all these butthurt faggots.

>>7578686
Everybody to concede that my position is objectively true.

What are your thoughts on one of these?
I own one, and it gives the benefits of instant coffee with real ground beans instead of freeze dried shit.

>>7579671
Been posting since 2007 (please let me die) and this is the best summation of 4chan I've ever seen.

I have a cone dripper, and grind my beans every morning.

What are some basic tips for making my bag of whole french roast beans from Starbucks tastier?

>>7579809
>real ground beans

>>7579858
Best tip: don't buy anything from Starbucks, ever.

>>7579871
I buy them from a Barnes and Noble since I get the employee discount.

What do you think is a good brand of coffee?

>>7579873
Try a few brands out, whatever you like. What do you look for in coffee?

i just use a mocha pot
i also put five table spoons of sugar in a different cup, then one table spoon of coffee and mix them till they're liquid and dense then add one table spoon into another cup and add the coffee and stir
or double espresso with nestle

>>7579379
>>yfw when
>your face when when
>when when

>>7579661
No..just no..

>"Getting the thickest possible layer of foam is considered the peak of the coffee maker's art."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_coffee

>>7579014
Try mixing the sugar with the water before you add the coffee, it raises the boiling point.

>>7564770
Same but with a regular coffee maker.

I mix a few spoonfuls of pic related in, good as fuck.

>>7580487
>not knowing the difference between coffee grounds and foam

Cunt, you bring it to a near boil two times. At the end of the second you skim the excess grounds off. The third near boil is when you acheive that glorious foam. Educate yourself.

I've just a regular electric drip coffee maker wired to a raspberry pi so that I can brew the shit from my bed. and I'm using Folgers Black Silk. used to use it in a French press but that thing's toast. what are some decent store bought coffees for dark roasts?

>>7580685
i usually get segafredo or lavazza, both are good quality imo

>>7580659
Yes, please tell me how we make coffee in my country cunt.

>>7580659
I'm so fucking mad right now.

getting coffee with brrakfast... and other things...

>>7580966
>>7580945
>>7580659
>>7580487
> Turkish coffee
> not Greek coffee

Always get it at the Greek places that have it. My mom says her uncles used to chew on some of the 'mud'. I hear it works as a good laxative too.

>>7571007
>I've heard this was common in the military as a way to cut the bitterness when they didn't have cream.
thanks, I didn't know I could have less respect for the military.

>>7579858
>What are some basic tips for making my bag of whole french roast beans from Starbucks tastier?
do you want to fucking fight me or what?

>>7580999
Fuck you Greek faggot, maybe it's Greek coffee when you're getting railed in the ass on Cyprus, but in the rest of the world it's Turkish coffee.

>>7580999
Coffee is a laxative but it doesn't effect water retention, it's purely a muscle stimulant.

>>7580999
It's the same thing. People in Greece used to call it Turkish before the invasion of Cyprus anyway.

Anyway the guy who skims the foam off in this thread is a gigantic cunt.

t. Greek person.

>>7581195
Yeah. That foam is fucking delicious, no matter what you call it.

>>7581103
funny. I had American coffee earlier and now am taking a half decent shit.

Help me, /ck/, I have a keurig right now because I'm a lazy shit who lives alone but I love good coffee and want to get more sophisticated with it.

What's a good method for brewing without taking a lot of time? Just get a regular drip coffeepot? What the fuck is a french press?

>>7581546
None of them actually take much time besides coldbrew. I'd avoid drip machines. They're not bad if you're not a big coffee person, but I'd recommend other methods if you want to get serious.

What kind of coffee do you normally get a cafe? Do you like espresso, or less concentrated stuff like americanos? Also, what's your budget?

>>7581569
You could argue that coldbrews are even more efficient time-wise. All you do is grind and throw it in the filter-jug with the water then the next day you have enough coffee to last you a couple of days. I keep empty glass bottles that I then feel with cold-brew so in the morning I just grab them as I'm about to leave the house.

>>7581569

I live fairly comfortably but I'm not rich by any means. I could splurge on something, but a regular habit of coffee that costs hundreds of dollars is out of my plans right now.

I go for less concentrated brews, yeah.

>>7581603
Just get a ceramic v60, some paper filters, a hario hand grinder or a decent electric one to avoid the hassle and find a webshop that does good quality coffee and delivers or a roasting shop near you. You'll be set and the whole thing will be under $80. $50 if you get a plastic v60.

>>7564633
>Lidl

I feel something Finnish from this post... I feel something good, something gold...

>>7581603
I'd look into a French press or pour over device. Both can be found dirt cheap, and the cheap ones work just as well as expensive ones. You can find tons of guides or videos for how they work. You're also going to want a grinder so you can buy whole beans. The standard beginner grinder is either a Bartza Encore or Hario hand grinder. The former will get you a slightly better grind for a lot less work, but costs about 5x as much. As for beans, a lot of people will tell you to get fancy shit from a local roaster, but at this point I'd fuck around with grocery store beans first.

>>7581580
That's fair. I've actually made similar arguments about slow cookers ("It's not an 8 hour recipe, it's a 10 minute recipe you have to make 7 hours and 50 minutes in advance")

Arabica, from my farm.

>>7581628
>>7581649

Thanks for the advice, I'll look into it.

>>7581628
Also I want to add that making your own coffee is far more economical even if you use fancy stuff. E.g This month I went through about 500g of organic sumatra mandheling from a local beanshop/roaster which cost me 11 pounds, takeaway coffees of a decent quality (not as good as mine) cost between 2-2.5 pounds each. This means I made my money back on the 5th coffee I brewed last month lol. Even if I go for the most expensive coffee they stock (Colombia Cerro Azul Geisha or Jamaica Blue Mountain) at 50 pounds per 500 g and drink more than 20 cups of coffeethat a month I will have still saved money.

Prepared coffee seems to have a massive premium in price.

>>7580003
Less acidity, darker, medium to bold.

>>7581632
As far as supermarket brands go, Dallmayr is fucking great. I don't think it's made by Lidl though. My grandparents used to get it long before Lidl opened up here.

>>7581662
While this *can* be true, in general I have found that when someone deep into a hobby starts doing the "save money" argument you know he's doing some creative accounting.
>well I just happened to be able to pick up this kees van der westen machine for a song and dance, $7500 less than retail!
>yeah this mahlkonig grinder cost more than a decent used car, but you have to consider the return on investment
>who cares if I spent $5000 on roasting gear this year? you know how much a cup of coffee costs at Blue Bottle?
presumably, you are not married

>>7581681
I do this shit with motorbikes

>€8,000 bike
>helmet alone cost €600
>€800 exhaust
But look at how much I save on petrol!

>>7581681
I'm living with my girlfriend but as I'min the same boat as this guy "I live fairly comfortably but I'm not rich by any means" I've steered clear of anything expensive.

Over the course of 5 years I've accumulated:
Bialetti moka pot
Ceramic Hario v60 for the house and a plastic one for work
Hario Coldbrew Jug
A couple of traditional ibrik's for turkish coffee
Kullinart ceramic burr hand grinder
20pound Krups electric grinder (not good by any means but does the job)
Insulated Kleen Kanteen to take coffee with me

All the above cost in total around 150 pounds, which isn't much at all and I'm perfectly satisfied with the results. The only thing I can't make at home is an espresso but eventually I'll have the money to get a Gaggia Classic but I can live with that for now.

I genuinely think I've saved money with this habit even though that wasn't my goal and in the process drank some amazing coffee. My favourite was pic-related followed by a Costa-Rica brew whose name I've forgotten and am desperate to find out (it tasted like pure toffee).

>>7579873
Don't listen to him, Starbucks is alright for grocery store coffee. People just bitch about it because it's popular.

>>7581732
How much does a 250g of decent quality beans from Starbucks cost?

>>7581741
Okay I checked the prices. They're identical to the local award-winning roaster I use. My guess is that unless you live in a really posh neighbourhood or can't find an affordable online roaster webshop, there's no point in buying from them.

>>7581732

Starbucks coffee is way to acidic for my tastes.
Plus I refuse to give money to them for their shitty social engineering policies.

>>7581807
Sure, but that's true of most brand name coffee.

>>7581821
That's my point though. Why buy from a big-chain when you can get local roasters or specialised webshops for the same price?

>>7564606
I hate caffeine
Is decaf coffee worth trying out?

>>7582533
i want to bully this post

>>7579858
Starbucks's french roast is just about as far as you can roast without starting a fire. You can't make ash taste good.

>>7580982
Are you getting a blowjob under the table by a hooker? What other things?

>>7582538
educate me
should I just give up on coffee if I hate the caffeine buzz?
I just can't drink it anymore ever since I graduated college.
But I miss the taste sometimes, with cream of course.

>>7582548
so good

Two shots of Burundi Kinyovu this morning. Quite good.

>>7582533
There are a lot of good speciality decaf coffees out there! I think they always end up missing something flavor wise, and for whatever reason the outside always roasts darker than a normal bean, but it's not the "might as well drink dirt" it used to be. Water processed (swiss water, mountain water, etc) and chemically processed both have their merits, the biggest thing is starting with quality beans.

I didn't read all of the comments (skimmed through while letting my pour over brew)

I'm drinking a mug of Colombian I roasted about a week ago. The cone is a Melitta cone, the species with one hole in the bottom.

I roast on a 2-pound Sonofresco roaster because I share with my family and sell a bit every once in a while to people I know, so having this roaster cuts down on the time I have to roast when everyone I know is bugging me for coffee

Just finished a bag of Percol Latino medium roast beans. Disappointing, though I've not been doing it justice with my noobish pour over technique. The pot of coffee I just made is both weak AND bitter. Taylors Columbian and Lava Java (pre-ground) were WAY better.

Got a grinder (pic related), cone, pot and Melitta filters about 2 months ago and it's more convenient than my french press. I dump the used filter in the recycling instead of cleaning a permanent mesh filter. I don't get grounds in my cup now too.

I need to experiment with my grind, water ratio and timing but here's what I'm doing so far:
>grind the beans to the consistency of fine salt
>1 tbsp of grounds per cup of water
>put the cone on the pot, the filter in the cone and the grounds in the filter
>start the timer, and simultaneously...
>carefully pour as finely as possible onto the grounds to wet them through
Note: There is no "bloom," the grounds just go soggy, bubble a bit but stay down at the bottom of the filter
>35-40 seconds later, bubbling has stopped
>begin pouring slowly onto the bed of grounds, filling the cone to about twice the height of the grounds and maintaining that depth
>at about 2:40 I stop pouring and let the rest drain through into the pot
>at about 3:20 it's done and I remove the cone and put it in the sink to cool

And that's my pot of coffee, which I drink black, unsweetened. I'm still getting a slightly varied amount of coffee in my pot because incompetent pouring, but usually 2 and a half mugs (which I figure is about 4 cups, therefore I use 4 tbsp coffee).

Questions:
Where can I get a cheap electric kettle or pouring device that allows me to pour more gently? I'm struggling to get a thin stream of hot water from my wide-spouted kettle without making a mess, and I don't want to spend £30 on a fino kettle that needs to heat on my hob.

I want a smooth but strong coffee. What do I need to adjust? Less grounds and a coarser grind? How important is water temp?

I am a pleb with a small electric mixer thingy who drinks instant Nesscafe shit. I add a spoon of sugar, a spoon of coffee, a finger of milk, whisk it up with the mixer until its nice and foamy, and then fill the cup with milk.

Any tips or ideas? I dont like typical soury water-only coffee unless its espresso.

>>7584541
Stop drinking instant coffee.

>>7584541
>and then fill the cup with milk
You mean hot water, right?

If you want to drink better coffee you'll have to start with an initial investment in, at least, either a french press, or a pour over cone and some filters. And then some ground coffee (not instant). The french press is very simple to use, the pour over takes a bit more practice, but both are more in-depth than instant.

The next step up would be buying a grinder and coffee beans and figuring out how fine to grind the beans, which takes a little experimentation. You also want to think about getting an airtight container for your coffee because, unlike instant, freshly ground coffee can go stale.

You can get all this stuff pretty cheap off Amazon though. I got a grinder, cone, filters, coffee pot and 500g of beans, all for about £30 ($42).

Here's a cheap cone, pot and filters:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kitchen-Craft-Coffee-Maker-Jug/dp/B0001IX6FM?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00

I got my grinder (>>7584383) from Amazon for about £10.

The beans (or ground coffee) are about £3-4 ($5) for a 225g (8oz) bag, and that'll last me about a week.

If you're determined to drink instant for the rest of your life then I'd recommend throwing some brandy or scotch in there so you don't care what you're drinking.

>>7584708
>and then fill the cup with milk
>You mean hot water, right?
My roommate uses milk. Microwaves a whole mug of it and adds the instant to that.

>>7581039
Hey Dr. OZ a TURK called it Greek Coffee. On a side note, they consume a lot more of it in Greece than Turkey.

>>7585983
I'm reading the Turkish comments on the YT video and those Turks be madddd.

how hard would it be to make my own vanilla bean frappucino?

>>7586160
>Throw milk in a blender with vanilla syrup and ice
>Blend

>>7585983
even the greeks called it turkish coffe before the 1960s though

>>7586164
is there a bean syrup?

>>7586178
Of course, it was introduced to Greece by the Turks after all and most reasonable Greeks will admit this (me included). However, technically it's not even Turkish either, it's Arab or Yemeni to be specific and most reasonable Turks will admit this too.

>>7564606
I love the taste of coffee but I have to drink decaffeinated because I physically start shaking after one cup.
The crash hits me extremity hard aswell.

>>7586297
I feel opposite. Cannot feel effects of caffeine beyond having to use restroom after consuming. Does little or nothing to feel awake.

I'm now drinking a packet of some shitty korean instant mocha. It's very very bad.

Is an Aeropress a meme item, or is it actually a useful, convenient tool?
I'm thinking of upgrading from a standard cafetière

>>7576743
I assume you mean taking off the foam and putting it into your cup so you dont waste any?

I've been trying to do it by pouring fast at first then slow after the cream is in, that way dont have to spoon or anything.

>>7578431
Hopefully he didn't do that... its literally the best part

Ok chaps, here's how I do mine:

get cezve boiling with the sugar already added in (dont stir it so it can caramelize a bit)
add in turkish coffee and stir thoroughly
let it gently boil up once
let it sit for a sec
let it gently boil up for a second time
serve by pouring fast then slow

There is another method where people put all the coffee and sugar in at the start and let it come to the boil, but I prefer this method, it seems to taste better and I only have to watch the coffee right at the end, instead of worrying about it overflowing while I'm doing something else (as opposed to just boiling off which doesn't matter if I'm a minute late to checking on it)

My pouring of the coffee could be better, I can never retain all the cream from the top. Any anons have any tips? And what are your thoughts on the brand in my pics? Its one of the few I can find in my country, and had to order it online.

Sorry to sound newbish but is French Roast supposed to not have much taste

>>7587433
You barely made any foam, hang your head in shame if you're a Turk.

>>7587441
you taste the roast rather than the bean itself
maybe try a lighter roast

>>7564875
throw it in the trash

then berate yourself for spending that much money on a shitty grinder just because of the brand name

>>7568503
Enjoy your tachycardia and possible death.

I'm not from this board so pls be gentle.
I have a Kuerig and the coffee seems pretty good depending on what k cup you buy. I know that's pleb/shit tier to you all but it's waaay better than nasty diner coffee and other instant things.

So my main question is will my mind be blown with flavor or is the extra effort not worth it?
And is there a coffee "bible" or some other authoritative book on all things coffee?

>>7588337
when you have a good coff it will blow your mind but they're hard to come by and you won't be able to make it yourself for a while.
find a good cafe in a major city and ask for a filtre coffee.

>>7581724
Get an aeropress it's all your collection is really missing.

>>7588337
If you have questions go to your local actual coffee shop and ask, or ask here, I'm happy to offer advice

>>7587433
It's hard to tell because the size/shape of your cup is strange but yeah you didn't get much foam. It's meant to look like pic-related. The coffee brand is okay, but don't worry about that. You can use any good coffee as long as it's ground very finely.

>>7588337
when you have good coffee beans, you get good coffee, even in a drip machine. Ignore all the hipster meme shit

>>7591447
There are better and worse ways to prepare those beans though, right? I'm new to "good" coffee but (with french press/pour over) don't you have to make sure you don't leave the grounds in the hot water for too long? Apparently coffee will start expressing a bitter taste after a certain amount of soaking. With dark roasts that time is about 3 and a half minutes, light roasts can take 4 minutes, all depending on the temperature. That's why you don't use boiling water.

This is just what I've read. I'm still struggling to understand the significance of fine vs coarse grinding.

>>7591510
>(with french press/pour over) don't you have to make sure you don't leave the grounds in the hot water for too long?
yes, that's just one thing to watch out for. Plus, french press = muddy coffee, it's just a hipster meme because it's manual.

Don't boil coffee, and don't over-extract. it's easy. Or you could just get a decent drip machine and just enjoy your coffee.

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>>7581103
>>7581542
I take caffeine powder during the day so I can save money on coffee, but I'll have a coffee every once in a while and it instantly makes me want to poop

>>7564606
That espresso looks so goddamn rich and oily.

How do I accomplish this at home without spending $1,000+

>>7578893
Are these any good?

I'm a coffee pleb who really enjoys Starbuck's lattes (I know, ck, I know) and I just want to be able to create them at home instead of driving a mile and paying $3.50

>>7589082
>local actual coffee shop
Wew lad
It's full of Wesleyan hipsters. And their coffee sucks, or at least it wasn't memorable.
If you have a good starting point for me to read I'll probably have better and specific questions.

>>7593064
Maybe an Espressoforge and Baratza Sette when it's out. Only thing I can think of that could come close in that price range.

>Has been having to drink instant coffee with powder creamer for the past few days

I am sorry...I have failed as a human being.

i dont have a lot of money. the store brand coffee i was buying seemed to have no taste at all, so i decided to take it up a notch and go for maxwell house. i understand its considered a shitty brand, but its totally tasteless to me as well. is this normal, or am i just shit at making coffee? im following the instructions exactly on the container.

Is it worth the hefty price tag, or no?

>>7596551
Maybe you have shit tastebuds. Go buy a gourmet coffee cup at your local coffee shop to see if you can taste a difference.
Another possibility is folgers makes the generic brand as well.

>>7596675
Meh. It's nice to have the option of a metal filter, but I've found that metal filters in pour-over brewers tend to give a really unpleasant amount of fines - much more than a french press. Some coffees are well suited to metal filtration though.

>>7596843
Pretty much this. I use them a lot, because they're easy, but you definitely get a muddy cup.

>>7596882
How is that easier than throwing away a paper one?

How awful would it come out if you brewed the coffee in milk instead of in water?

Today I realized the instant coffee I was making was so bad because it wasn't instant coffee. If only I could read Korean I could have avoided this.

>>7565320
milk is a luxury

>>7597312
so is potable water, but I don't get mine from a river.

I need some help. I recently moved and I now have a gas stove. It works miles better than electric for cooking but I've been having trouble with making coffee in a moka pot. I just dribbles a bit of coffee and gurgles. Never had the problem with the electric stove.
I suspect that the burners are not providing enough heat to the pot or somehow the coffee is clogging the filter.

>>7596938
Very awful. Don't do that.

>>7598945
It could be inconsistency in your heat, but I don't really know how you'd get around that, since its an innate difference between gas and electric. Honestly, I don't really know.

I was really disappointed with Stumptown Hairbender. I normally really like dark roasts, but this one is just bad. It doesn't have the deep, intense flavors I look for, it's just muddy and slightly burnt without any real complexity. The $5.50/lb bulk Sumatran dark roast at my grocery store is better than this crap.

Did I get a bad batch or is it always like this?

>>7599265
It's not impossible for it to be a bad batch. How long ago was it roasted? How are you brewing it?

>>7598945
AFAIK you're meant to keep it on the heat until just after 5 seconds of the start of the gurgling then take it off and let it spit the coffee out. I've made it on a gas stove many times with no problem!

bump

I love this thread, don't want it to die

are you as obsessed as these people?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYryKbPjm4s

>>7599400
March 30, but I bought the bag around April 7 or 8. It actually got less unpleasant as time went on.

>>7601264
It's a general you fgt. Another one gets made after bump limit is reached.

>>7586182
Sauce?