/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>9583140
Kiwi or Australia?

>>9583142
Kiwi, Wanganui more specifically.

>>9583147
Thank you for your service.
You boys work bloody hard.

It is still extremely inefficient. Why not just directly use the crops instead of feeding it to animals? It needs way more water, land and ressources for the same amound of output.

I used to live in a county where dairy was the biggest industry and do ecological fieldwork for a living, often on dairy farms. I eat eggs but don't drink milk because it's every bit as bad as I think.

>>9583170
When will a vegan engineer invent a grass > milk machine?

oh and veal calves are pretty fucking bad

>>9583175
rice and oat milk factories are that thing

>>9583170
I guess, but its about economics. Used to work on a goat dairy farm once, theyd house them in a shed and have 100 hectares or so that theyd cut and feed out into the shed from a modified bailer. Could feed 100 goats per shed on around 2 acres a day. Really liked this system because they didnt muck up the paddock and ruin the fencing. And the sheds where right next to the dairy shed. Dairys not as wasteful as you think, corn and grass is alot more common then you give it credit for.
>>9583176
Everything is bobbie mate. Even your local butcher shit.
>>9583161
Its not all that hard, low hours, decent pay and youre in the shed most of the time.

>>9583187
Lol you think rice and oats are less intensive to grow than regular turf grass?

>>9583319
Even less labour (therego CO2) and econimcally intensive is cow milk.

Meatcucks, go to Hell. You should stop hurtingThere is a 11th commandment by God that meatcucks removed it from the Bible:
"Thou shalt not kill animals, nor fill your stomach with the products of thee, as they art unclean and will make your body rot." Exodus 20:18-20

>>9583341
How is there less labor when
>You don't have to seed with a tractor because cows shit does it for you
>You don't have to harvest with a combine because cows eating it does it for you
>You don't have to chop and bail the waste straw because there is none in turf grass
>Cows on pasture are also carbon neutral regardless of flatulence because permanent pasture is a carbon sequestration system

You've read some bad literature dude.

>>9583362
>>9583140
You do know you're trying to preach to city kids right? The closest they've ever been to a cow was a peta poster. You're wasting your time here.

>>9583362
You misread, im trying to say that cows milk is more viable then grass milk. Hence why its the most common milk.

>>9583388
Oh I see.
>>9583378
We won't even see any vegan push back in this thread for a couple of hours because it's too early in the morning for the city cucks to wake up on a Sunday

>>9583348
what mental illness do you have?

>>9583348
>will make thy body rot
fixed it for you

>>9583140
Basically just because it's too expensive and part of the vegan appeal in the first place is how much cheaper it can be

My cholesterol was too damned high, so I cut out meat and dairy from my diet.

If you do eat meat, go for local farms if you can, same with meat. Your butcher should know where it comes from, but eating that every day can fuck you up.

>>9583140
Not vegan, but with another question for vegans: Why so many of you don't eat freaking honey? It is literally just sugar, which is from plants.

>>9584646
Not a vegan either, but the argument I heard is that the bees made the honey for their bee babies, and when we collect it we're oppressing them.

just go vegan you troglodytes

>>9583140
Take the Redpill. Thank me later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfUfTU61cak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSjE8xw_-Dg

>>9584841
>>9583819
>stupid frogposter is vaegan
>"the appeal is how cheaper it can be"
do you have to be under 80 iq to be a vegan or something

>>9583147
HOW DOES IT FEEL TO LOSE TO AUSTRALIA HEY AHAHAHAHAHAHAH SUCK SHIT CUNT HAAHAHAAHAHAH

>>9583170
cows eat grass

>>9583140
>canterbury shorts
God I fucking hate this country

Cruelty, sustainability, cost, ethics, taste/variety of subsistutes, health, the list goes on. And, drinking the breast milk of another animal/eating it's mentruation is fucking disgusting

>>9585671
Hahahaha squeamish eaters are life long cucks

>>9584857
>trump is voldemort
>take the red pill
why do dumb people always talk in reference to entertainment?

>>9585695
No idea but it's old as shit. Before movies and video games people would reference major novels from centuries prior.

>>9583140
Dairy is meant for baby cows, not for humans. I don't want to steal milk from baby cows.

Chickens die faster the more eggs they need to pump out.

>>9584646
Bees did the work to make the honey. It's their honey. I don't need to steal from bees to eat and be happy.

How can anyone say that plants don't have thoughts and feelings and a will to live.

https://youtu.be/H9MV5CgPgIQ

>>9583170
Wait I just did some math. An almond takes 1.1 gallons of water to grow. One ounce of almonds is 23 almonds. 16 ouces in a lb. Its takes 404.8 gallons of water to make a pound of almonds. Beef is 1,847 gallons of water per lb. So about 4.5 times the water expenditure. 1lb of 80/20 groud beef has 1,152 calories and 1 lb of almonds has 2,608 calories which is about 2.2 times as many. They provide wildly different forms of nutrition in both vitamins ans fat/carb/protien so in summary. One is marginally more efficient but not significant enough to be bothersome. Almond orchards have problems with drought conditions just like cattle ranchers do. They make two nutritionally different things our bodies need both of and they taste great. Especially beef. Why not have both?

>>9584646
I'm vegan but I eat honey. There's no cruelty involved in bee farms, and it tastes so good.

>>9586371
>>9586388
Well I do so fuck them and fuck you too

>>9586758
It's not like the water vanishes

The problem with farming animals in a capitalistic system means people will make the animals suffer if it means making more money.
If packing them more tightly makes more money then by golly it'll happen.
Theres a reason farm lobby try so hard to criminalize peta or whoever secretly filming animals on farms.

>>9586914
It's just barbaric and unnecessary to kill other living sentient beings for taste. We like to pretend we're an advanced society because of our technology but people still need to eat rotting dead animal flesh to feel happy.

>>9587231
can you really thrive off a vegan diet?

>>9587321
Yep, more and more famous athletes are making the switch and seeing better results.

>>9583378
lmao,
implying every single cow is being milked tenderly on the "Ma and Pa's friendly farm full o' happy animals"
you're delusional.

>>9586914
Ever heard of equilibriums faggit?

>rape a cow
>keep the babies away from their mothers
"no"

>What do you have against dairy and eggs?

both involve killing animals long before they're mature. both are wasteful ways of producing protein.

>>9583147
thank you for destroying our rivers.
enjoy being fucked in the ass by the greens this term :+)

>>9583140
terrible for environment
supports veal industry
terrible for human health
needs to be subsidised by taxpayer to keep industry afloat
unethical

eggs

Dairy

bacon

>>9588418
fucking rage

>>9588014
>eating unfertalized eggs involves killing animals

The absolute-fucked mindstate of vegfags.

'humane slaughter'

>>9588451
Are you stupid cunt? what do you think happens to male chicks? what do you think happens to chickens when their egg production slows down?

I agree, under those circumstances it's perfectly acceptable to eat dairy and eggs.

>>9588459
You are aware there are sources of eggs other than factory farming, right?

>>9588459
You people who think all animals raised for food are kept in barbaric conditions or are grossly mistreated are mind numbingly stupid

>>9588478
lel, explain what happens to the male chicks from your source.

And what happens to the baby cows from your source

>>9584832
This
#Yellowandblacklivesmatter

>>9588478
just go vegan pussy

>>9587231
>for taste
that's not why we eat meat, you don't really think we eat meat only cause it tastes good, do you?
>need to eat rotting dead animal flesh
no one eats rotting meat, stop using dumb buzz words to make a point

>>9588523
why do you eat meat then big boi

>>9586914

I don't think you understand what capitalism means.
By definition it has nothing to do with wanting to make more money.

Argument from dogs

P1: It would be wrong to treat dogs the way we do farm animals
P2: There is no morally relevant difference between dogs and farm animals
P3: A morally relevant difference is a difference that justifies different standards of treatment
C: It is wrong to treat farm animals the way we do

come at me meatcucks

>>9588536
convenience, and cost
its really not a hard concept
its cheaper and costs less than the steroids used in your pic related

>>9584841
this. meatcucks are pussies

>>9588556
lel cost? meat is not cheap

>>9588548
fuck dogs

>>9588575
autist detected

>>9588548
Oooooorrrrr

Now follow me on this

Society by and large has come to over value dogs and the level of treatment we give them is often disgustingly schmaltzy.

When I get a dog at my new house he will primarily live outside in a dog run with access to the backyard and he will not sleep in my house.

>>9588548
P1 is wrong.

>>9588845
Substitute the word "pets" for dogs and I'll agree with you.

>>9588853
another autist detected

>>9588500
Lol
>guy wrestles calf
>Calf pops back up like nothing happened
>Smol puny human kicks cow
>Cow slowly shuffles away only mildly annoyed

We can't really hurt cows with our bare hands.

https://youtu.be/qHNKAa_0RBg

Muh gentle and delicate creatures

>>9588881
lel, is this how you justify yourself kosher boi

>>9588459
do you think chickens will live forever if we don't eat them?

>>9589013
brb slaughtering a dog because it doesn't have an infinite lifespan

>>9588505
>that swollen pasta
yuck

>>9588505
>mushy pasta
>broccoli with ketchup
>not-meat tendies
>a single spinach leaf
Are vegans retarded?

why are militant meatcucks always incels?

>>9588896
Kosher? I'm no jew. Also your WebM is the bovine equivalent of bopping a dog on the nose or pinching his ear. It's obvious you've never seen a one ton or more animal in person. Thanks for playing citytard

>>9589074
says the guy who has that photo saved to their hard drive

>>9588409
HALAL
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>>9588881
That video is why I have leather seats, their hides are tough as shit

>>9590416
>be me
>strict vegan
>doctor says "take this or you die"
>i say "ok"

>>9590711
>be me
>lmao muh principles how can you kill another animal
>fold immediately when it comes to my life
fix'd

Also, pro tip, all of the land you get your vegetables from was once habitat, the land is farmed using oil and machinery produced from mined materials, which destroy habitat, anything you use that isn't wood or some type of grass was mined, the fact that you even exist means that animals will die. If you want to be a real vegan, fill a backpack full of rocks and jump off a bridge.

>>9588523
Yes, you do. This board is full of fat fucks that love eating meat because of the flavor. Even if you were an advanced athlete you wouldn't need the meat for protein.

>>9590764
Being an occasionally hypocritical vegan is still better than being a meat eater. It doesn't have to be black or white.

>>9590837
No but the iron and caloric density is pretty advantageous which is why you've never seen a full vegan win jack shit. When I see a vegan athlete I see wasted genetic potential.

>>9590848
>pay for tag
>shoot deer
>eat deer
>the money for the tag is what protects the habitat the deer lived in
>If nobody hunted, there would be no money for conservation and the deer would die anyway, and no more deer would be born in that area

Everything dies, explain to me exactly what I've done wrong.

>>9590849
I get 400% of my iron daily eating only plants. Iron is the easiest fucking micronutrient to get and the only people who become deficient are dumbass women that only eat vegan junk food all day.

>caloric density

I can down a 1,000 calorie smoothie no problem. It isn't difficult at all. Most people on this board shouldn't be eating calorically dense food anyway.

>which is why you've never seen a full vegan win jack shit

Kendrick Farris

>>9590874
>I shoot deer to save deer

epic logic

If all the deer would die anyway then let them die in that area.

>>9590874
I don't see a problem there. I'm mostly against factory farming.

>>9590887
Even places that are certified as free range have horrible conditions and aren't too different from factory farms. They're all trying to keep costs down so poor Jimbos like you can buy their shitty product.

>>9586388
>bees rights

>>9590892
>he needs to steal food from bees

What kind of pussy needs to do this?

>>9590886
Okay, deer are now largely extinct in the contiguous united states, what next?

>>9590915
Probably because Jimbos like you can't stop hunting? Try going vegan to stop contributing to it.

>>9590877
>1000 kcal is dense
For a soccer mom not an athlete doing two a day workouts. You'd need like 8 of those shakes. And this isn't an Herbalife shill nobody lives off shakes

Who in the actual fuck is Kendrick Harris
Oh that's right no one.

>>9590917
>instead of working to solve the problem I choose instead to do nothing because it makes me feel better about myself.

>>9590877
>>9590937
Lol looked him up he placed 8th in an Olympic event no one cares about. I said a vegan has never WON jack shit and last I checked 8th place ain't a win son

>>9590917
Cars and habitat loss each kill more deer than hunting. Your ignorance is astounding.

>>9590896
Bees don’t have rights, it’s not stealing also I don’t eat honey

>>9590937
>You would need 8000 calories

oh, I'm actually talking to a retard right now.

>>9590969
The only American weightlifter to go to the Olympics. What happened to all those meat-eating weightlifters???

>>9590975
I don't drive a car either.

>>9590993
>bees rights

Fuck off with this you retard. I'm not a faggot so I don't go around stealing shit.

>>9591011
Do you think bees have rights?

>>9591014
Do you think going around exploiting animals makes you a man?

>>9591021
Your answer is yes I assume

>>9591034
So you actually believe exploiting animals makes you a man. Alrighty then.

>>9590917
There is literally nothing wrong with hunting if you follow regulations. In fact it's a benefit to the wildlife which would suffer a slow painful death by disease and starvation due to overpopulation otherwise. I can agree that factory farming induces unnecessary suffering, but lay off hunters who eat their kill, fagfuck.

>>9591036
Do you stop and apologize to spiders when you walk through their webs?

>>9591043
So are there no deer left or are they overpopulated? Pick one. If they're overpopulated then have at it, Jimbo.

>>9591045
Nope, but I'm also not going to go around stomping through their webs like a child because it's fun. That's essentially what you're doing when you eat honey.

>>9583170
Milk tastes good and makes tasty things. Every price has a reward.

It's not always about calculating the "most efficient" calorie/labor/water usage farming.

>>9591011
>He thinks 8k is a lot for a world class athlete

Pic related retard

>What happened to all those meat eating weightlifters
They were competing in a sport that actually matters like boxing, wrestling, track and field etc. A nation's best athletes tend to gravitate to sports ppl watch cuz egos and such.

Farris has also only been a vegan since 2014 and hasn't medaled at any event since 2013, strange coincidence?

>>9590896
Call me a pussy one more time, faggot.

>>9591067
Swimming burns an assload of calories and that is when he is training to his peak right before the event. That isn't every athlete ever. A weightlifter wouldn't need nearly that much. Your ignorance is astounding.

>Farris has also only been a vegan since 2014 and hasn't medaled at any event since 2013, strange coincidence?

>During the Olympic trials on May 8, 2016, Farris broke the U.S record by lifting a total of 831 pounds

Also, your fat ass doesn't need to compete at the Olympics. You would do just fine on a vegan diet.

>>9591056
Why don’t you apologize to spiders for destroying their homes? If bees have property rights shouldnt you feel bad about it?

>>9587231
>sentient
I didn't know cows and chickens were sentient

>>9591108
I get what you're doing but it's not actually an argument for eating meat. You're trying to appeal to this weird standard of masculinity when in actuality you're the one that's too much of a pussy to do the ethical thing.

>>9591114
Please look up the definition of sentient. They experience happiness, fear, and suffering just like we do. You wouldn't want to put dogs and cats through suffering and pain, would you? Why is it ok for other animals then?

Thoughts on vegetarians? Are they just hypocrites?

>>9591094
You don't think training for weight lifting doesn't burn at least 8k? You're also projecting bro I lead a very active lifestyle between a physically demanding job and working out 6 days a week.

And you mentioned that he broke our record, but he didn't win the event, did he?
This mostly reflects on how little people care about the clean and jerk in the u.s. Outside if a couple of dumb crossfitters no one does this lift.

Beyond all that not only would a vegan diet suck there is simply nothing wrong with harvesting from animals. I've fed them, medicated them, and milked them never felt bad about it. I've killed a few animals too no issues there either. Once you get your first kill it won't bother you so much anon. Wanna come gut some pigs with my family? We like to save the blood like pic related to make morcela.

>>9591148
Please go on fit and ask them. They'll all laugh at you. Even the big roided guys on that board MAYBE eat 4-5k kcalories a day.

>>9591148
>And you mentioned that he broke our record, but he didn't win the event, did he?

Holy shit you're grasping at straws here. You're desperate to show that veganism is insufficient when vegan athletes at the top of their game are breaking records.

You're delusional or insane.

>>9591132
Sapient literally means to feel. Recently, we've discovered plants have the ability to feel in a way we as humans cannot comprehend, yet they feel.
Are plants sentient? Is it wrong to eat them because the way they feel is different from the way a pig feels?

>>9591186
>Sapient
I meant to say sentient, but you're going to take my typo at face value because you're a faggot and would rather "win" than have a discussion.

>>9591186
>we've discovered plants have the ability to feel

No, they don't. And even if they did then going vegan would be the best way to minimize plant pain.

>>9591185
How long have these record breaking athletes been vegan?

>>9591192
>No they don't
They react to external stimuli.

>>9591175
>Asking /fit/
Hahahaha ishydishy lad now I know you're full blown retarded.

>>9586371
Have you ever raised a chicken? You don't force them to produce eggs. It happens almost daily for a happy and healthy chicken.. If no rooster is present, to fuck that chicken, the eggs are an inevitable waste product.

>>9591175
Ronnie Coleman eats 6k and he's a bodybuilder in retirement
>>9591185
Lol out of all the world class American athletes who actually win there are no vegans. You cannot deny this. All you have is one guy who's done well in an unpopular lift in an obscure sport. It's not a very convincing argument on your part.

I raise my own chickens and I love them, they're my sweet chicken babies. I eat their eggs. Am I a monster?

>>9591257
Not at all. Chickens are adorable, and I imagine you appreciate them like reasonable people would any other animal that lives with them. The eggs would go to waste if you didn't eat them.

>>9591185
the question was to name a vegan athlete that has actually won anything
athlete you mentioned has not won any medals since becoming a vegan. you say ing hes broken some record has nothing to do with winning a medal. the moment you switched your argument to record breaking you lost.
yet the guy you are arguing with is grasping at straws?

>>9588022
this the milk buids strong bones meme is an old propaganda campaign to boost the dairy industry by the government

>>9591535
Lol you're dumb dude. Milk isn't even acidic it's 6.5 pH and a 7 pH is absolute neutral. Milk is basically neutral and loaded with calcium

>>9591550
lactic acid my dude. Not a veggie fag, just want to point that out.

>>9583348
>Jews go about killing animals for sacrifice
>Are specifically told which animals not to eat
>Abraham served Angels of the Lord red meat
>Jesus eats fish
In conclusion, nice bait faggot.

>>9591683
Lactic acid? Lol I think you're getting two things that sound similar confused. Lactic acid is found in sour fermentation dairy products like yogurt but not milk itself. I'm also not aware of any health issues related to lactic acid anyways. It's also found in sourdough fermentation bread and iambic beers.

>>9583140
I visited a local farm. That's why i'm now vegan

>>9591796
whats wrong with that farm? all those cattles have plenty of space to roam about

>>9591796
That's not a farm, that's a feedlot. Two completely different things.

>>9583140
Not a vegan but buying animal products is still supporting the meat industry, the animals are eventually going to be killed. You could go further though and say that to truly be vegan you can only buy food from stores that don't sell animal products which is invoking some weird Peter Singer nirvana fallacy shit.

>>9592366
What if the store doesn't sell animal products but your server wears leather shoes?

>>9592366
Thats not true. buying vegan products from non vegan stores still creates demand for vegan products, and doesn't increase the demand for non vegan products

>>9592366
>You could go further though and say that to truly be vegan you can only buy food from stores that don't sell animal products which is invoking some weird Peter Singer nirvana fallacy shit.

Yeah, only commie retards do this. I've been buying a shit ton of Ben & Jerry's dairy-free ice cream. Shit is delicious.

>>9590896
>he rips living plant matter, which food for various flies and other herbivore animals, from the soil in which they were grown and return nutrients to once decomposed

What kind of pussy are you that you need to kill plantlife, stealing the food from other animals.

Save the world and kill yourself.

>>9584646
Does bee farming overall help bee populations? What with the bee deaths.

>>9593747
Yes. Apiaries want more bees alive so they can pollinate more plants. Question: if vegans won't eat honey because of bee enslavement then how to they justify bee pollinated crops like almonds and most tree fruit?

meatcucks will defend this

>>9593787
Yes. Nothing wrong with killin piglets. Life is not a Disney movie.
Your turn answer this one >>9593753 for me

>>9593787
Why do they thump the pig? How does this help the pig grow?

>>9593787
I wonder if the pigfarms near me do this.
And if I can have a free piglet if I ask nicely.

>>9593796
For what purpose though? Why not wait till it's a grown pig before killing it?

>>9593804
They're bummers, i.e. the sow had more babies than she had nipples to give. You'd have to somehow feed all the bummers by hand with an artificial milk replacer formula that's expensive and you'd probably lose some of those to starvation or illness because from experience I can tell you livestock do not do well on the artificial formulas. The ones that survive would be growth stunted and not profitable. Animals that have litters will often have one or two bummers or runts that they basically discard in a wild setting as well.

>>9593804
because it's not worth any money

logical proposition for meatcucks

P1: It would be wrong to treat dogs the way we do farm animals
P2: There is no morally relevant difference between dogs and farm animals
P3: A morally relevant difference is a difference that justifies different standards of treatment
C: It is wrong to treat farm animals the way we do

>>9594141
We've already done this
>>9588845
Why won't a vegan answer this
>>9593753 though?

>>9594141
>P1
If a dog was a farm animal, the two would be treated equally poorly.
Hinges on the 'pleasant' treatment of pet dogs being seen as morally correct, and its contrast against farm animals.
In a culture where dogs are bred for food, do you believe this conclusion would be agreeable?

>P2
Arguable. There is none the less an indisputable functional difference.
In the west, most dogs serve as pets or companion animals, a function which requires (from a sheer functionalistic perspective) a different treatment than a living source of food.

>>9594309
Dogs used to be more than just furry things for lonely people to project relationships onto. They used to herd, hunt, and defend. The variety of breeds we have today reflects that history and the methods used to get that variety were as fucked up if not more fucked up than anything agriculture does today. We're talking drowning whole litters of puppies because they didn't have breed specific markings.

>>9590915
one less thing to worry about while i'm driving around in the suburbs.

>>9594348
Yes and no. You're right that dogs were bred for all sorts of various purposes. But working dogs were thought of as exactly that--a working animal, not a pet. They were used for whatever purpose they were bred for, just like a plow horse. Those animals were taken care of to a certain degree--after all, they performed a valuable function--but they were not "pets".

Some dogs, mainly small "lapdog" breeds were bred to be pets.

It's only relatively recently that the pet thing has gone waaay overboard for some people. People spending tens of thousands of dollars on their pets, taking them to animal psychiatrists, giving them organic vegan probiotic homeopathic supplements, etc. etc. People also do stupid things like choose a pet dog based on what they look like, then they get confused when that energetic hunting dog gets bored of living cooped up in a tiny apartment and starts destroying things out of frustration.

Pet owners would do well to research the history of a dog breed before buying one as a pet. Many breeds make great pets--after all, they were bred for that purpose. But a lot of people don't think that way, they just pick whatever breed they like the look of.

>>9583348
God specifically commanded animals to be killed in unusually cruel ways and then burnt without even eating them

>>9594375
Thanks for strengthening my point that there is no reason why this vegan tard is holding up the treatment of dogs as a gold standard for animal welfare. Making dogs live as people is about as cruel and unusual of a situation as it gets. Vegans will never understand that animals aren't humans and don't want to be treated as if they were.

Why do vegans hate plants so much that they try to increase plant consumption?
Why do they hate animals so much they want to genocide them?

>>9594481
argument doesn't require the advocacy of pets. Try again, meatcucks

>>9594500
Why do you think you're winning the argument by posting animals dying as if we were previously unaware that this happens? Your unease with death and inter species killing only implies you have an immature outlook on mortality. We all die anon accept it. And none of us in this three dimensionally confined universe matter at all we're basically a colony of bacteria on a speck of dust. You've got no perspective.

>>9594528
t. man who watched rick and morty once

>>9594528
complete lack of understanding or appreciation for epistemology.

sad

>>9594548
Nah the series is actually going to lead up to a subverting message that the nihilism of Rick creates great evil in the Galaxy anyways (the rickchurian candidate plot). Anyways, way off subject now.
>>9594557
At least I don't think I'm making the world better by abstaining from everything that has anything to do with animals
Still waiting on an explanation for this too
>>9593753
Why so much avoidance?

>>9594500
Most people suffer a worse death than that.
I'd take a nice quick throatslashing over slowly rotting in a hospital bed for weeks.And I've seen a lot of both.

>>9594666
This. Big pharma convincing 70+ year old patients and their scared family members to prolong life at all costs is something actually worth fighting against.

>>9593798
helps builds strong muscles

>>9593787

I dispatched mice using this method for a while, to feed my snake. Eventually switched to freezing them because I'm a pussy.

>>9596021
how many mice did you need...every day? do you just go to a pet shop and say 'gimme some mice for my snake to eat?'

>>9596048
They eat like once a week or two

>>9596048
Dude, you find a pet shop that sells snakes and buy whatever the fuck they feed theirs, live or frozen.

Then you stick to it. Switching about fucks with sneks

>>9596066

None of the pet shops I visited had frozen mice.

So, yeah, pick up a box of mice, take it home and toss it in the freezer. Usually they froze to death before any escaped. Then every couple of weeks you pull one out of the box, toss it in a paper bag, and set it on a lampshade to thaw. The trick is to get it warm, but not so hot that it ruptures and oozes pink goo.

Any vegan snake owners out there?

>>9596107
>Usually they froze to death before any escaped.
So sometimes a mouse would escape and start roaming about in your freezer fucking with your food till it died?

>>9596133
Yes, thousands and thousands of miligrams of food, comped

>>9596141
Hahahahaha I like you anon. You aren't vegan are you?

>>9588014
you're a special sort of retard, arent you?

>>9596048

My snake would eat 1-2 mice a week, eventually when I got my sand boa I kept two mice from the pet store and had them breed, saved a few bucks

>>9596107
Why are snakes such shitlords? You know you could just make vegan mice, using cashew butter, flour and nutritional yeast, hand-crafted into a mouse shape. Use lentils for eyes, and thinly sliced zucchini for a tail. The snake would probably never know the difference and it would be much healthier and way less fascist. If I ever get a snake I will make sure to feed him a vegan diet.

>>9596141
I froze rats for a little until I had one fucker survive for 13 hours. He luckily only got mild frostbite on his tail so I let him live. Until he tried to kill my breeding male. Then I just let him get eaten by a monitor lizard.

>>9587441
>source: my ass

>>9597808

can easily provide examples

>>9597860
of all of the athletes you pick you pick a formula 1 driver?