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For me it's Unhealthy Vegan Food ™

>> No.10640809

>>10640801
What do those filets taste like?

>> No.10640814

>>10640809

regret

>> No.10640926

>>10640809
Fish

>> No.10640929

>>10640801
Why do vegans insist to replicating non vegan food?
It makes no sense.

Just go eat vegetables and make good vegetable dishes.

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>>10640929
Why do bloodmouths insist that their shaped, cured, salted, spiced, pulverized carcasses are under patent? I'm going to eat twice as many black bean burgers now, u mad?

>> No.10640952

>>10640929
Seriously, why do people borrow aspects of other foods they enjoy to create something new? That's so dumb, every dish in the world should be 100% original and not share any of the same traits as any other food including appearance, taste or texture.

>> No.10640954

>>10640929
Because you can't get all your protein from legumes alone. Meat and cheese analogs are necessary.

>> No.10640955

>>10640944
If you want a burger, just go eat a burger.

>> No.10640962

>>10640955
But that defeats the point of veganism... Most people aren't born into veganism and grow up with shit like burgers, so in order to make the transition feel more natural instead of like they are leaving something they enjoy behind they create substitute versions of these dishes. I'm not even a vegan but this shit is really not that difficult to comprehend.

>> No.10640964

>>10640944
I'm not angry

I just cannot understand the deluded thinking of the average vegan.


Eat beans fine.... but why call it a burger? It makes no sense.
You just sound like you are compensating and are suppressing the fact that you are ashamed of your choices and feelings.

Also I know lots of vegans and vegetarians. The best food I’ve ever tried of theirs is not a cheap imitation of something else. but hey maybe the real difference is they can cook and have imaginations and you’re just a feeble minded sack of shit who was brainwashed by PETA

>> No.10640980

>>10640964
You ever tried to eat 500g of dry beans in a day, every day?
It's a fuck of a lot easier if you vary their preparation and that includes bean-based patties.

>> No.10640988

>>10640980
No, i'm not a retard and I eat a diverse diet

i'm not a vegan either so its real easy for me to get what I need, but if I was vegan I wouldn't focus on 1 or 2 foods to survive.

This is the major flaw with being a vegan it takes so much more effort to actually eat well.

>> No.10640991

>>10640980
>Implying bean-based patties are not beans


again, you lack imagination.
You think... ooo beans, or burger substitute
end of thoughts.

>> No.10640995

>>10640988
>I wouldn't focus on 1 or 2 foods to survive.
So pray tell besides beans and apparently unholy vegan meat/cheese-analogs, where are you getting your vegan protein from?

They're not doing this because they want to, genius

>> No.10641013

>>10640995
quinoa is the first thing I think of

I eat it regularly, it is ~16% protein by mass and contains every single essential amino acid.

it is listed as a super food by the WHO

even mushrooms have a reasonable 7% protein in them.

you'd think a staunch bitchy ego inflated vegan would know this,

>> No.10641014

If you need protein why not just eat a little meat?

>> No.10641018

>>10640995
do you not eat nuts?


fuck, you're so limited

>> No.10641019

>>10640809
The morning,g star brand patties are surprisingly good. The gardein? Not so much.

>> No.10641035

Daily reminder to enjoy laughing at vegans and their delusion since they are all malnourished and will suffer numerous diseases and illnesses when they are middle aged.

>> No.10641040

>>10640991
And yet when vegans try to use alternatives, like quorn/seitan/tofu/textured veg protein etc. you bleat out
>hurr why you have to pretend it's meat

>>10641013
>reasonable 7%
More like 3-7 depending on the shroom, and oh boy, I sure do love eating literally 3 kilos of mushrooms in a day

>Quinoa
Again, unless you're eating just fuckass huge bowls of quinoa every day, it's a really small contribution to your protein intake.

>>10641018
Most nuts are fatty as hell. Getting most of your protein from nuts makes as much sense as getting most of your protein from fatty bacon.

>>10641014
Because vegans argue no amount of dietary convenience is worth an animal's suffering. That doesn't mean they're above the convenience of meat analogs, which is sure as hell more convenient than stuffing your face with the low-protein foodstuffs mentioned above, especially if your appetite is limited.

>> No.10641043

>>10641040
>he thinks all fats are the same
Dumb carny.

>> No.10641047

>>10641043
>it's not meat so macros don't mean anything

>> No.10641060

>>10640801
indians can actually into vegietarian food
quorn tastes like paper

>> No.10641075

>>10640952
This but unironically.

>> No.10641076

>>10640980
woah... its almost like... eating 500g of beans a day to meet your nutritional goals is retarded...
if only there was something you could do...

>> No.10641100

>>10641040
Was this post meant to highlight how fucking stupid being vegan is?

Or are you just looking for a pity party about your bad life choices?

>> No.10641110

>>10640814
:D

>> No.10641142

>>10641076
Right, so if you're not retarded, there's two options:

1: Make your protein up with the low-protein natural foodstuffs, looking something like this:
>200g dried beans
>100g mushrooms
>150g quinoa
>50g whole wheat products
>100g nuts & seeds
Fuck man, that's only 80g of protein and even I'm pretty sure I couldn't eat that much every day

Or option 2:
Just buy some vegan meat analogs despite the whining from people like >>10640929

I sure as hell know what I would pick

>> No.10641170

>>10641142
>so if you're not retarded

add a few eggs to your casserole there and stop pretending like your better than everyone else.

Veganism is retardation, so you've already lost

>> No.10641181

>>10641170
>discard your fundamental beliefs because I said so
or
>just buy some readily available products that solve the problem simply and easily without any moral difficulties

Really makes you think

>> No.10641189

>>10641181
>Really makes you think

that must be a painful experience for you anon

>> No.10641190

veganism is a mental disorder, you cant talk them out of it
same as being gay or a pedo

>> No.10641200

>>10641189
Never said I was vegan
Just highlighting how stupid it is to discount meat substitutes as an integral part of some people's diets because alternatives are so thin on the ground.

>> No.10641203

>>10641190

ugh... yeah sure but
vegan =/= gay =/= pedo

you're fucked in the head my friend

>> No.10641392

>>10640944
whar is that vegan slop called?

>> No.10641454

>>10641200
I really like how when you argue with people like him it all comes down to "no u" type shit because they really have no other way to rationalize how stupid they're actually being. I know they aren't that dumb, but they try so hard to fit into this edgy anti-everything persona that they really don't know what else to do when they get BTFO. It always dwindles down to "but you're dumb" or "muh shills"

>> No.10641470 [DELETED] 

>>10641454

You're probably a huge racist & pedofile, aren't you? I hope you get fucking brain cancer, carni.

>> No.10641496

>>10640801
None of that food should exist. And nobody's body can process all of it, so you lose.

>> No.10641507

>>10640929
there are lazy vegans just like there are lazy non-vegans.

also, some people miss the taste of meat items, which is valid.

I agree with you though, there's much more potential when you're not trying to replicate non-veg dishes.

>> No.10641576

>>10641470
If you're going to bait, at least make sure you're baiting the right person.

>> No.10641586 [DELETED] 

>>10641576

No. It's you. You're definitely the same carni loser I'm talking to.

>> No.10641614

>>10641586
>defend vegans
>get baited by tard pretending to be a butthurt vegan

okay, kid

>> No.10641620 [DELETED] 

>>10640929
>Why do vegans insist to replicating non vegan food?

Why do all meat eaters voluntarily give themselves cancer?

>> No.10641636

>>10640801
This,but ofc I keep my cheat days x0x0x0

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>>10641620
>Why do all meat eaters voluntarily give themselves cancer?

dur hur. cuz it tasts gud. "I need muh flavors"

>> No.10641659

>>10641200
What do you think meat substitutes are made of?

>> No.10641677

>>10640801
>a 4k photo of literally fucking nothing
>it's not even framed properly
Why Can't Americans Understand Image Resizing And File Compression?

>> No.10641698

>>10641645
>>10641620
>I love mycotoxins from all the pickles I have to eat to maintain b12 requirements

>Esophageal cancer? LOOOOL what's that hahahhahha

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2778505/

http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/21/6/905

https://www.halstedsurgery.org/GDL_Disease.aspx?CurrentUDV=31&GDL_Cat_ID=83F0F583-EF5A-4A24-A2AF-0392A3900F1D&GDL_Disease_ID=E81B63D8-A04A-470B-A155-4AAC759EDB2D

>Achalasia, radiation exposure to the esophagus, and lye ingestion are all associated with an increased risk of squamous cell esophageal cancer as well as head and neck cancer, diets high in pickled vegetables, iron deficiency anemia and dysphagia.

>diets high in pickled vegetables, iron deficiency anemia

HAHHAHAHA you're both fucked enjoy mycotoxins or b12 psychosis niggers

>> No.10641737

>>10641698
>veganslive10yearslongeronaverage.jpg
Checkm8

>> No.10641744 [DELETED] 

>>10641698

lol at your bullshit studies. Enjoy your brain tumors, carni.

>> No.10641752

>>10641620
Why go through the effort to replace junk food with junk food? At least make something tasty, and keep the globalist capitalists at bay by making as much as possible yourself and sourcing from nearby small scale farms.

>> No.10641760

>>10640929
What do you care what vegans do?

>> No.10641763

>>10641744
>>10641737
>My best argument is insults when ovo-lacto and pescetarians live longer and have less non-communicable diseases like B12 deficiency than I do

How's doctor gregor's dick feeling nudged against your esophageal tumor?

>> No.10641772 [DELETED] 

>>10641763

lol. where'd you get your meat facts? Frump news channel? Go back to posting on strumfrumper.

>> No.10641773

why is every board on 4chan filled with
>vegans
>redditors crying about /pol/ any time someone so much as mentions race
>people who post nothing but american hate

i swear to god, every thread on 4chan is derailed by one of the three now. not everyone who hates niggers goes on /pol/, believe it or not, a whole lot of people hate niggers.

>> No.10641780

>>10641772
DUMP FRUMP!!!

hahahhahah vegans are the most adorable creatures on the planet. Enjoy that esophageal tumor scientifically guaranteed

>> No.10641794

>>10641773
I've been crossboarding a lot lately and you are absolutely correct. I think it's a product of the 2016 election bringing a lot of people to 4chan, and all the shitposting around /pol/ and every other board when it happened. There has also been a general trend of more non-Americans browsing 4chan in the last 10 years. Veganism is just something that's gaining popularity in the West.

>> No.10641799

>>10641737
>people who pay attention to what they eat to an extent and can't eat many readily available heavily processed foods live longer than the average american ambulocetus

wow who wudda thunk

>> No.10641807 [DELETED] 

>>10641780
> Who's dumber? Frump voters or meat eaters?

Well you meat eaters are certainly making a strong case in this thread.

>> No.10641828

Everytime there is a vegan thread. Somebody should post this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFF30jfTubU

>> No.10641831

>>10641807
cunt

>> No.10641853

>>10641794
>Hi I've only been here for five months

/ck/ has always had vegan trolls you moron

>> No.10641860

>>10641828
brutal

>> No.10641867

deliciously dairy-free homestyle ranch style ranch dressing vinaigrette WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING

>> No.10641879

>>10641853
I've only been browsing /ck/ for a year, but I've been on 4chan for about 11 years. Maybe vegans have always trolled /ck/, but they are all over /fit/ these days. And I know for a fact that there weren't near as many just a few years ago. They're all scrawny weaklings and refuse to post their physiques after spreading their stupid propaganda.

>> No.10641883

>>10641828
Very legit video, but isn't that the dude who only eats meat and also stares at the fucking sun?

>> No.10641888

For me, it is the BK Veggie burger, the best Veggie burger

>> No.10641889

>>10641883
Veganism is fucked
but most humans eat way to much meat.

If you lead an extreme lifestyle or maintain an extreme diet, you should expect serious side effects

>> No.10641893

>>10641828
>every time somebody trolls me i should post a serious reply with a video but nobody except my fellow butthurt buddies will watch

Wow, will sure show them

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>>10641392

>> No.10641945

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4073139/

>> No.10641967

>>10641945
>The strength of this review is its focus on only prospective studies of vegetarian Adventists.

The conclusions of this study cannot be applied to people outside of this group.

The restriction of alcohol and tobacco are likely to be larger factors in the decreased rates of disease in these people.

>> No.10642028

>>10641945

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16441942/

For those who can't read this cause of the pay wall.

From the conclusion:
>No clear differences have been shown for other major causes of death such as stroke and cancers of the colo-rectum, breast and prostate

The study also points out that vegetarians and vegans are more health conscious on average and the moderate decreases in diseases, cholesterol and lower weight can be attributed to increased levels exercise, lowered caloric intake, and avoidance of alcohol and tobacco.

tl&dr... vegans are bad at stats and controlling variables.

>> No.10642051

>>10641967
You can conclude that even without supplements, via the date of the study, vegans not only live longer but also are not as nutrient deficient as their unethical counterparts.

>> No.10642077

>>10642051
except all the vitamin, mineral and fatty acid deficiencies that are generally associated with veganism.
Loss of body mass, muscular atrophy, and loss of brain mass. Plus studies have shown that generational vegan diets increase all cancers and inflammatory diseases, and these changes in DNA are passed down to their progeny

Evolution in action.

>unethical counterparts.
this is what is really about. Vegans just want to push their religion on everyone else.

>> No.10642087

>>10642077
>doesnt post studies
K

>> No.10642145

>>10642087
read this,
I don't have time to dig up all the scientific articles just to prove you wrong

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/02/15/how-to-avoid-the-most-dangerous-side-effect-of-veganism.aspx
This one is great.. the suggested solution to B-12 deficiency and to regenerate the appropriate gut flora is to reintroduce meat.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/29/long-term-vegetarian-diet-changes-human-dna-raising-risk-of-canc/
This shows the long term effect. Basically those who are more like herbivores will do better, evolution in action. its fine. humans are diverging as a species. Maybe my descendants will eat yours, but don't worry they'll slaughter them humanely

>> No.10642184

>>10641454
I already laid out my argument extremely thoroughly, without any rebuttals besides "yeah but just don't be vegan lol". Not a nou of any sort.

>> No.10642223

Niggas who couldnt even read a childrens food pyramid in kindergarten trying to tell balanced people how to live their lives

>> No.10643417

>>10640952

>>10640952
t. Tastelet who only eats the “original” flavors of everything

>> No.10643427

>>10640962
But the transition isn't natural. We're omnivores.

>> No.10643720

>>10641737
Yeah and babies who have Bach played for them have better success in academics. Because people who have the money and luxury to do that shit take better care of themselves and their kids.

>> No.10643857

>>10640801

The only good Vegan item are those Chicken-less nuggets from Trader joes...

>> No.10643867

>>10643427
We're omnivores.
that we are


reject modern meat and our shitty food industry, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't eat meat, humans evolved and survived so well because we fucking eat nearly everything,

>> No.10643879

>>10642145
>those who are more like herbivores will do better

>long term vegetarianism in population leads to rise in cancer and heart diseas.

did you even read your own article?

>> No.10643910

>>10640944
It creates a big perception problem for you guys. When people think of vegan food, they don't think of popular and tasty things like salad, roasted potatoes, ratatouille, or stir-fry. They think of weird niche products that are inferior versions of food they already know (e.g. black bean burgers).

>> No.10643912

>>10640980
>You ever tried to eat 500g of dry beans in a day, every day?
Not only could I do that but I would enjoy it. Love ripping huge farts and taking giant shits. Unfortunately I'm a fat fuck so I have to control myself.

>> No.10644002

>>10640944
>bloodmouths
That's not even offensive.

>> No.10644034

You /ck/ people are fucking crazy

>> No.10644127

>>10640929
>i be vegan because me no like meat taste so me should only eat vegetable
That's not the main reason why people go vegan. Meat doesn't taste bad at all.

>> No.10644142

>>10640929
Because meat tastes good. I don't deny that. I just don't want the baggage that comes with meat.

>> No.10644147

>>10640801
I tried some vegan sausages the other day and they were super good, really surprised me.

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>>10640980
>You ever tried to eat 500g of dry beans in a day, every day?

No, cause I decided not to live a faggot vegan lifestyle, anon. You did. Voluntarily and then go out and complain why food doesn't taste good.

Stop playing victim, either you suck it up with your lifestyle or change it. Dont come online and complain lol

>> No.10644168

>>10644158
Do you feel obligated to give your opinion on a non-trolling vegan thread?
That's ridiculous and just plain embarrassing how certain people just want to be noticed

>uurrrr vegan be faggot, they complain about things!!
No one asked for your two cents, especially if you're going to be like this.

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>>10644168
You're right.

No one asked for my two cents, neither for yours and anyone else here.

I don't care what people shove in their mouth, but what comes out of it. I don't care about your lifestyle, if it fits you best.

But man imagine someone shape meat in a shape of vegetables amirite.

It's that high level of pretending in your vegan culture that is just unbearable.

To most its not even about the food anymore, no no, they go to into public areas and protest how everyone is living a bad lifestyle just because they munch on carrots for breakfast.
While at the same time they drive cars with leather seats or have couches with leather seats.


I'm so fine if you decide to live on tofu 24/7 and be kind to the planet.

But man, the amount of smug that comes with it is just embarrassing.

Pretty ironic how you call me out for ''wanting to be noticed'' but look at what most vegans I know do.

>> No.10644218

>>10641200
>the fact that there needs to be a substitute for something we are meant to eat kind of says something

From today on, I will substitute water with coca cola (zero)

>> No.10644219

>>10644191
Yet I didn't feel like someone in this thread was bragging, and I'm not even vegan myself, just vegetarian.
I agree that a lot vege people are absolutely awful, but so are people eating meat, the same way there're assholes everywhere.
Also, you don't stop meat because it's pleasuring, I've been a vegetarian for more than ten years, and I assure you, it was hard at first because i loved the taste of a good steak.
It's really pleasuring to sometimes have a bit of that taste back when I buy substitutes, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
You wouldn't say to a lactose intolerant person to just suck it up or drink the real thing if they complain about the taste of soy milk? (which tastes like absolute ass by the way)
And it's highly unlikely that a vegan would drive a car with leather seats. Vegans don't want to use any animal product in their daily lives, so they're probably vegetarians/lians or just douchebags.

>> No.10644234

>>10644219

Ow goodness no anon, you do what you think is best of course. I am not debating that.
I agree there are heaps of assholes out there no matter what they eat.

But to get to my point here.

I know vegans who are bragging, 8/10 of those I know.

I know vegans who has cars with leather seats.
I know vegans who has leather clothing.
I know vegans who has leather couches.
I know vegans who has leather accessories.
I also know vegans who preach in public about how right they are and how wrong others are.

I am not just ranting here, I say what I see.

It's unlikely, you're right. But unfortunately I know them.

That being said, my best friend is a vegetarian.
Because he's not an asshole about things.

>> No.10644270

>>10640801
Daily reminder that meme exclusionary diets (vegetarian/vegan/ketofags/atkins) have no place on a board devoted to food and cooking. The core tenet of your belief system is NOT eating something why the fuck are you here.

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>>10644270

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>>10643857
Do they still carry those? Haven’t seen them in forever. Fuckin loved em