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10657209 No.10657209 [Reply] [Original]

Why do people think grilling meat = burning the fuck out of meat? That black shit causes stomach cancer. It also tastes nasty. I'm talking any cut of meat. Meat is not fucking cheap especially not beef. Even if you get a good deal on it at Safeway or Sam's Club. Why waste money like this?

>> No.10657216

>>10657209
I'm not going to deprive myself of good food when I'm gonna get cancer from pollution and cheap plastics anyway

>> No.10657222

>>10657216
If you live in California you dont have to worry about those things

>> No.10657226

>>10657209
>Slow cook and bake meats
>Die of heart attack from tasteless food
>Barbecue meats
>Die of cancer

>> No.10657234

>>10657222
I thought they just had to put a label

>> No.10657240

>>10657209
>Why do people think grilling meat = burning the fuck out of meat?

The same reason why idiots like yourself can't distinguish bark from smoked meat with "burnt" meat: stupidity.

There are no grill marks on that meat, OP. It wasn't burnt, it was smoked.

I'm with you that people who burn meat on the grill should be offed though.

>> No.10657245

>>10657226
No I'm talking about grilling without blackening. Grilling to obtain the smokey flavor without charring it to avoid the cancer.

>> No.10657250

>>10657240
Its not "bark" its cancer buddy

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/diet/cooked-meats-fact-sheet

>> No.10657252

Isn't food carbon good for the kidneys when properly hydrated?

Also isn't constipation more of a colon cancer issue than the carbon?

>> No.10657256

>>10657216
If its burnt its not good. Burnt is an awful bitter nasty taste. Id rather eat a whole lemon, lime or raw onion and garlic then that shit.

>> No.10657264

>>10657252
Even so why should we eat burnt cancer causing crap if we dont have to? If you want to go ahead but what I am saying is this epidemic of people acting like its no big deal is dangerous because allot of young people grow up thinking its healthy.

>> No.10657271

>>10657264
You can't even live in the city or drive a car without exposing yourself to worse shit

>> No.10657285

>>10657245
Cooking meat inherently releases more of its nitrosamines. The more cooked the more nitrosamines of course

>> No.10657287

>>10657271
Yes you can you are exaggerating things. Besides inhaling fumes in open air while unhealthy is still better than actually eating shit that is unhealthy. When smelling shit only your lungs are really affected. That char poison goes into your stomach, liver and kidneys.

>> No.10657296

>>10657285
Still safer then eating raw meat, no meat or charred meat. There is a proper way to cook things. Burning shit on the grill isnt one of them.

Here is a healthy way to grill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZfq8BVl4Y8

>> No.10657298

>>10657222
You don't have to worry about them because the rampant liberalism will give you cancer first.

>> No.10657304
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10657304

>buy 100$ worth of meat
>coat it in three inches of brown sugar
>''''''''''''smoke'''''''''''' it for 8 hours
>sugar has turned to coal
>call it bark

>> No.10657312

>>10657264
Because bitter flavor can be used to balance a dish?

Curried bitter melon is fuck delicious. As is coal-black pittsburgh-blue strip steak with a topping of merlot butter.

>> No.10657315

>>10657287
Your lungs aren't designed to filter anything but air

>> No.10657326

>>10657315
Objectively wrong, did you think there were no forest fires or harmful pollutants on Paleolithic Earth and it was a mystical garden of Eden like Hesiod's golden age?

I think you more want to believe than actually believe.

>> No.10657330

>>10657326
lol there's a reason smoke suffocates you dumbass your lungs can't just filter out the air from it

>> No.10657333
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10657333

>>10657326
humans weren't meant to stand in fire and breathe it in

>> No.10657335

>>10657315
>What is carbon dioxide
How stupid is this one?

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10657337

>>10657330
>>10657333
>Nobody ever breathed in anything that wasn't pure oxygen in the five million years that led to me!!
Homo sapiens was a mistake.

>> No.10657342

>>10657335
it's part of air dumbass so obviously yes the lungs can filter air and move oxygen and carbon dioxide across a gradient

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10657345

>>10657342
>Carbon dioxide is air
Please be doing one of these.

>> No.10657354

>>10657337
air=/=oxygen

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10657357

>>10657337

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10657367

>>10657354
>>10657357
>I was only pretending to be retarded, I didn't actually have an argument!

>> No.10657369

>>10657345
dude what do you think air is?

>> No.10657374
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10657374

>>10657369
99.96% not carbon dioxide, you fucking moron.
>Hurrrrrrrrr only the pollutants I decide are valid STOP POKING HOLES IN MY NON-LOGIC!!!
Are you a liberal?

>> No.10657393

>>10657374
You're the one who used the "logic" that because your lungs can filter carbon dioxide they can filter more than air

While carbon dioxide is obviously a natural constituent of air. As if that somehow means we're more prepared to inhale pollutants than to eat a charred steak

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10657419

>>10657393
>It's natural so it doesn't count!!!
New Agers when pressed, always. I guess the cyanide and botulism spores don't count either? MUH NATURE

>> No.10657431

>>10657419
Your lungs aren't designed to filter spores, cyanide or any heavy metals. They move gasses across a membrane

>> No.10657433

>>10657431
>Your lungs aren't designed to filter spores

WRONG

http://www.dynamicscience.com.au/tester/solutions1/biology/respiratory/lungs3.htm

The air we breathe is full of pollutants, dust particles, bacteria and viruses. If all these particles were allowed to enter the lungs they would quickly block the fine bronchioles and suffocation would result. If bacteria were to enter the lungs massive infection will take place.
The lungs have a very efficient air filtering system. The trachea is lined with cells that produce mucus(goblet cells)and other cells that have fine hair like projections (cilia). Sticky mucus is pumped into the cavity of the trachea. Bacteria, dust and viruses stick to the mucus as they enter deeper into the trachea. The dust filled mucus is swept upwards by the fine hair-like projections. This entire process is going on all the time without us having to be consciously involved. The only time we are aware of the mucus coming to the top of the trachea is when we use force to clear our throat by a reflex action, cough.

Don't play again.

>> No.10657442

>>10657374
Lol wut

>> No.10657453

>>10657337
>56% mutt detected

>> No.10657461

>>10657433
>first post that's actually partially correct by virtue of copying and pasting how the lungs stay clean
>somehow still thinks a steak is worse for him than car exhaust

>> No.10657464

>>10657453
>>10657442
From the same board who brought you: >no no there are no spores in the air no lungs can filter them as soon as you breathe in ONE BOTULISM SPORE OUTSIDE U DEAD

Honestly, I think you're just stuck in 1950s mode logic where everything needs to be in a bubble... not realizing we developed in concurrency with this environment filled with HABs and PAHs and lead and spores and carbon dixoide. Clearly no though, humans weak!!! I read it in a pop-sci argument!!!
>>10657461
>I was wrong
>Let me backpedal by mentioning cars!!! Yeah!!!

>> No.10657469

https://www.reddit.com/r/grilling/comments/8m5ijk/just_out_of_curiosity_i_saw_this_and_was_curious/

>> No.10657480

>>10657464
Your lungs again, aren't filtering any of that shit. Even if they are designed to move debris and bacteria. And your whole spergout was in reply to my original post saying I'm not going to give up steak to avoid cancer when I'm already exposed to environmental carcinogens and toxins

>> No.10657497

>>10657250
The OP picture was cooked at low heat. That black crust is not from high heat burning.

>> No.10657502

>>10657480
If you lived in a bubble, would you stop eating steak?

>> No.10657562

>>10657374
You guys are aware that CO2 is a gas.
It has no particulates and therefore it does not require """filtering""".
Also it is not poisonous. CO2 is a product of respiration, we are exhaling CO2 every breath.

>> No.10657652

>>10657562
Good goy, i wonder why we eliminate it at any breath then

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10657691

>>10657209
>That black shit causes stomach cancer.
ask me how i know you're a fucking retard. you'd have to eat 100 kilos of burnt meat a week to get any noticeable rise in your chances of getting cancer from it.

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10657766

>>10657652

>> No.10657824

>>10657691
>you'd have to eat 100 kilos of burnt meat a week
And you don't? Gtfo vegan scum.

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10657850

>>10657240
and even if OP couldn't distinguish it from the sheen of the meat the orangish color of that little flavorful nugget of fat on top should be a dead giveaway.

>> No.10657906

>>10657369
nitrogen, mostly

>> No.10657935

>>10657209
carbonized stuff is actually good for your stomach but how would you know that, the meat in the images is not even burnt it's probably smoked or slowly roasted

>> No.10657938

>>10657304
putting sugar on meat is stupid by itself

>> No.10657940

>>10657298
Epic

>> No.10658493

I already have cancer, I'll eat what I damn well please.

Don't have cancer? Don't want the risk of it? Don't eat it.

People can make decisions for themselves: try it! You'll like it.

>> No.10658538

if the bark has a burnt taste u done fucked up

>> No.10658551

>>10657250

>>J. Scott Smith, professor of animal sciences and industry, found that black pepper nearly eliminates the formation of heterocyclic amines, or HCAs, which can form on the surface of meat when it is cooked.

found the fix for you

>> No.10658569

>>10657209
>That black shit causes stomach cancer.
There is not a single scientific study that makes this claim.