/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.10714056]

>broke ass line cook
>shit credit, student loans out the ass
>just want my own place and answer to no one but the guests and myself
anyone else know this feel? I've worked for the best, I've worked with the worst, and the only two things I know for sure is that I need to be the man with the plan and I have very little means to do so.
How can I strike it out on my own when I barely make more than minimum wage?

[Anonymous No.10714062]

>>10714056
You can't. Even if you had the money, 90% of all new restaurants fail.

[Anonymous No.10714070]

find investors

[Anonymous No.10714071]

>>10714056
You don't, you need an investment partner or a fuck ton of bank loans.

[Anonymous No.10714074]

>>10714056
Live as frugal as possible and save money. Also, how is it possible that you're only making minimum wage despite having loans? Did you not get a degree?

>>10714062
That doesn't mean he can't. It means it's not guaranteed that he will succeed.

[Anonymous No.10714080]

>>10714062
90% of new restaurants are shitboxes owned and ran by people without a clue of what they are doing selling half prepped food from sysco served by pregnant sixteen year olds and prepared by pillheads

[Anonymous No.10714088]

>>10714074
NYC minimum wage is 13 dollars an hour, I left and make more now, also don't really have any expenses outside those loans but
>those loans

[Anonymous No.10714089]

>>10714056
>How can I strike it out on my own when I barely make more than minimum wage?
So basically how can I make more money /ck/?

Get into a side-hustle, make money on the side.
I used to make $2000 a month on ebay selling shit I found a goodwill to hipster retards. Think outside the box on things you can make side-money on. Fix your credit while doing so, get a prepaid credit card etc


You’re asking us how to get money because i’m not making enough at my wagecuck gig and want to open a restaurant.

[Anonymons No.10714093]

>>10714056
did this girl ever have a boyfriend? was she incel? autistic? both?

[Anonymous No.10714094]

>>10714056
Let's pretend I'm an angel investor with 700k liquid assets that I could invest in your restaurant.

What's your 1 minute pitch that convinces me to invest in you, rather than a safer almost guaranteed annual income choice like a fast food/fast casual franchise?

[Anonymous No.10714099]

>>10714094
700k USD, for sticklers.

[Anonymous No.10714111]

>>10714094
I'm gonna have Secret Aardvark sauce

[Anonymous No.10714144]

>>10714099
I'd tell you the wealthiest summer tourist destinations on the east coast are completely bereft of true luxury and fine dining despite two centuries of tradition and even the most exclusive and beautiful locations prepare food barely on par with your neighborhood French bistro served by people who barely speak English, and without even a hint of gimmick these same places can acquire extremely high quality product from within a hundred mile radius for under a 25% food cost. I'd also tell you being a franchisee carries no prestige and puts you about a half a step above owning a local Cumberland farms, and if you're considering investing in the restaurant industry you've clearly explored safer investments in stocks, bonds, and currency and this investment must be at least a little personal.

[Anonymous No.10714150]

>>10714094
I'm not OP, but my main angle would be that fast food and fast casuals are doing poorly right now. Millenials seem to hate them, and that is only going to continue as more boomers die off and more millenials get to the age where they're working and have money to spend.

Our new restaurant won't have that problem, and we'll be more in touch with the market compared to a slow-moving megacorporation. We also won't be restricted by corporate policy dictated by the franchise overlords, nor will we have as high expenses as a franchise restaurant because we don't have to build up the shop to match the rules dictated by corporate.

Then I'd present ideas I've drafted for the menu, records of my test-cooking results, and sample operating expenses (a business plan) to demonstrate that I've already put a lot of work into this and have things ready to roll.

Lower costs. Better suited to market trends. And I'd be a partner who has proven to be serious about the business as opposed to a random hire who doesn't give a shit aside from a paycheck.

[Anonymous No.10714152]

>>10714089
working 70 hours a week this summer, looking at side gigs moving forward, but also considering saying fuck it and sell sandwiches or something when the busy season ends.

[Anonymous No.10714162]

>>10714056
I feel for you, but you really need to be posting this blog shit on /adv/ or /b/, and not here.

[Anonymous No.10714171]

>>10714162
ok let me ask /b/ about opening a restaurant, ill come back and start a McChicken thread, I apologize for clogging up this very interesting and fast board I have no experience with homie.

[Anonymous No.10714294]

>>10714150
Hypothetical angel investor here, just playing devil's advocate-

As much as I'm not a huge fan of them, fast casuals like Panera Bread average 2.47 mil USD annually. What experience do you have that would make this restaurant have a better chance of success?

[Anonymous No.10714310]

>>10714294
The "low carb" and "gluten free" trends are only getting stronger. Bread-based places are going to become very risky because of that. It makes more sense to invest in an up-and-coming trend as opposed to one that's about to fall off a cliff.

[Anonymous No.10714319]

>>10714062
>90% of all new restaurants fail

That's because 90% of new restaurants are started by people who don't know what they're doing. Often people with money who think it would be "fun" to open up a restaurant without realizing that it's one of the hardest, time consuming, and least rewarding ventures you could possibly invest in.

[Anonymous No.10714361]

>>10714319
The problem is also when people start a resturaunt even though they only know about cooking food. That's fine and all, but there's been a number of restaurants that closed in my hometown because the food was great but their business sense sucked. In one of the closed down places, the owner didn't even know how to price food for the menu.

[Anonymous No.10714389]

>>10714310
>The "low carb" and "gluten free" trends are only getting stronger
Op here, bullshit. The most successful restaurant I worked at was helmed by a man who made a career out of not giving into trendy politically correct dietary nonsense. His restaurants are consistently profitable and there are lines out the door every night.

I stand by my original statement, and would tell you plainly that if you are investing in a chef driven restaurant, you have already considered and utilized safe avenues of revenue. At this point you must be looking for prestige, image, and vanity. If you are even considering investing in a Panera bread or some sort of casual mall food, I would urge you to take that route instead. Invest with me only if you truly believe in my vision, and believe it is not only profitable, but also look for more than only the bottom line. I would never look for an investment in a venture that is doomed to lose money, but I also need a partner who understands this business is more than just a cash machine.

[Anonymous No.10714412]

>>10714361
business sense is a big part of it. You have to know your market too.

Hipster restaurants would do great in college towns but not very well in hickville. If you live in hickville serve burgers or BBQ.

A guy I know inherited a "soup and salad" place with a vegan vibe from a dead relative. It was located in a fairly bad part of town with a bunch of immigrants all over the place. Needless to say it was not doing well. Dude stripped out all the salad shit, installed a bunch of TVs showing Mexican football and now serves fried shit and beer. Makes a fucking killing, the place is packed with chicanos every night.

[Anonymous No.10714422]

>>10714093
Doubt she ever had a boyfriend or any interest in sex for that matter.

[Anonymous No.10714433]

>>10714144
>>10714389

I like the cut of your jib. Also, you're absolutely correct about the food quality bit. I've traveled to a bout 40 countries, and the US for the most part lags behind in average food quality. Even the average 'fancy' dress-code requiring Italian restaurant serves pretty lackluster food. I remember ordering a mozzarella di bufala salad and the pears tasted and looked like fucking potatoes. The school lunches in France tasted better than that shit, and the crab bisque was lackluster.

I'd consider making a throwaway email account if you're located anywhere on the Northeast in the US and are serious about it.

[Anonymous No.10714517]

>>10714433
I do live in New England, and while I am quite serious I would never connect myself personally or professionally to this website. I've been shitposting here for far too long to not know better than that. I only post here under the assumption of complete anonymity, and I wouldn't break that condition for anything.
I will tell you that if you ever find yourself in a New England tourist trap of a beach town talking to a cook in semi fine dining with a passion for the finer things in life, give that man a listen.

[Anonymous No.10714620]

>>10714422
Which is a shame because I would have smacked her pussy around.

[Anonymous No.10714694]

>>10714517
good idea. if you see a customer making origami unicorns out of the napkins, give that man a listen.

[Anonymous No.10714700]

Not to be rude by why the FUCK do people go to college/uni for culinary programs? At my uni its the most expensive fucking program, and its filled with nothing but skids and degens covered in tattoos then they graduate and work for $13/hr at some shitty overpriced chain "casual" restaurant and are drowning in student loans living in some scum apartment with too many roommates.

[Anonymous No.10714782]

>>10714700
because people who actually get good grades in high school get full scholarships, and get paid 30 plus an hour working at a restaurant because he made a great first impression on the owner's parents and has excellent pulled-sugar sculpting skills that come in handy for garnishes and decorations.

[Anonymons No.10714917]

>>10714422
do you think its okay to rape someone if its in order to stop her from a mass shooting?

cuz id totally do her regardless of consent.

[Anonymous No.10715120]

>>10714056
>line cook
>broke ass
>want to own my own place
>LINE COOK
Spend another 5-10 years working in as many restaurants as possible and learn every single detail about running them as a business, not just grilling steaks. Pester every head chef and general manager you meet about mistakes they made in the business and what they had to put in to make their restaurant work. If all that doesn't scare you out of owning your own place then you can think about starting a restaurant.
Otherwise you'll just bury yourself under more debt and the best you'll hope for is 15 minutes of reality show fame while your business circles the drain and takes your soul with it.

[Anonymous No.10715776]

We need details OP, like for instance, what inspired you to throw away your life by working in the restaurant industry?

>be chef
>have to go to expensive culinary school
>work hard as fuck and amass student loans
>finally graduate, get job at shitty restaurant
>owner doesn't care about anything but money, refuses to change awful menu and doesn't let cooks do anything g creative
>restaurant is filled with nepotism hires, half of the people there are likely retarded but have the job because their family
>head chef is a drunk, always fucked up and always in a bad mood
>front of staff consists of extremely bitchy and selfish waitresses despite the fact that they spend 3/4th of their shift texting and on snap chat yet walk away with hundreds of dollars every night in tips
>all for a bunch of snooty customers who are mad at your steak for being flavorless despite them demanding it well done
>all that just to take home under $25,000 a year after taxes
>will take you 25 years of hard work for you to even come close to being able to pay off your mounting debts and open your own restaurant
>once you do you only have a 10% chance of making it past your first year

Am I missing anything else? Dude just apply for a trade school of some kind and fix refrigerators or something. It's more money and freedom than you can dream of. Cut bait and give up: you ur life will never amount to anything, you are a failure in everyone's eyes from your parents to the random shit stain in your restaurant chastising you for fucking up his steak. Just give up bro.

[Anonymous No.10715798]

>>10714056
>>broke ass line cook
Your first problem is that you're a line cook.
Before you take the plunge to try and run your own place, be a head chef for a while.
Get the experience of designing a menu, creating new dishes, sourcing ingredients. Get all of this experience, but with someone else taking all the risk.

After that, you will be much more successful if you branch off to your own restaurant.

[Anonymous No.10716288]

>>10714917

Isn't that (kind of) the plot of that nip mag rapeman

[Anonymous No.10716305]

thanks for the honesty guys, good to see the blackpill crowd chime in as well. I guess my main frustration, without getting too specific, is my last boss was in my position, said fuck it and opened his own spot with like 50k, and a little over ten years later is a household name. And then I have a few contemporaries doing their own thing right now, it's tempting. Occasionally Ill get approached by owners in the business, but it's always on their terms. I don't want to get stuck in a bad situation.

But I have found myself with a job I don't hate working with people I actually like, and I see reasonable path to advancement for the first time in awhile. I'll stick with these mother fuckers for the time being and see where that goes.

>why are you a cook you dummy
Hospitality is my game, and I'm one of the best there is. I couldn't achieve what I want from the front, so I work it from the back. Chef/Owner is the the play, and you can't go there without respect.

Much love homies.

[Anonymous No.10716341]

>>10716305
If you do decide to do it, start small. Small space, small menu, small costs. Build a business, don't just start one.
A buddy of mine used to Sous Chef for a guy who started with a food truck and now has three brick & mortar locations on Seattle, one of the most over-saturated markets out there. He didn't expand until he had the steady capital to do so.

[Anonymous No.10716383]

>>10714412
>not knowing your customer base
the fucking killer. If you don't understand the community you're dead in the water. The BEST Jamaican restaurant in Indianapolis had to close its doors because they bought a location within walking distance of two trailer parks (the correct answer would be to open a papa murphys and watch the EBT bux come rolling in)

[Anonymous No.10716528]

>>10716383
>>10716341
Not to diminish your contributions here in any way, but these should be pretty obvious.
Unfortunately way too many people don't posess this sort of common sense and thats where the whole '90 percent' statistic comes from.

I've been thinking about opening a sandwich shop and selling grinders on fresh bread to get going, I like the overhead and everyone likes sandwiches. I don't think I'd need a HAAACP plan to do my own meats if it got to that point if its all sold on premises either, and I think I could get a pretty admirable food cost if I leaned into that pretty heavy.

I'm more comfortable now seeing where my current job takes me though.

[Anonymous No.10716600]

>>10714056
Two words.
Food. Truck.

[Anonymous No.10716632]

>>10714056
Nice pic. Just a reminder that this is the most dangerous kind of shooter. Be cautious of vegan feminist immigrant attention whores, sometimes they stream video, other times they stream bullets.

[Anonymous No.10717053]

>>10715776
Sigh..You just described my life and once again my 12 gauge has never looked so delicious

[Anonymous No.10717062]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlirpYWd3X4

[Anonymous No.10717803]

>>10714093
>she
>>10714422
>she
>>10714620
>her
>>10714917
>her

[Anonymous No.10717820]

>>10714056
Know your market (including customers, zoning laws/location, permit costs, etc.), know your product, and know your source. Find out what isn't being done that you've seen be marketable in another city, and do that. My town didn't have pizza by the slice places for decades, and now there are 3 businesses (smallish town) that are successful. You don't have to be fancy, and try to focus on a business model that doesn't require staff other than yourself. Maybe consider a food truck or non-traditional dining setting if it's cheaper and permitted in your city. If you can do one thing REALLY fucking well, do that thing. Although restaurants aren't always successful, the initial startup fees for equipment, ingredients, permits, and rent aren't prohibitive. Matter of fact, they're probably the last small business that's doable by an individual without corporate backing or massive capital. Also, that 90% failure rate doesn't mean those restaurants weren't viable if they were managed correctly. Sometimes it just means the rich dude who opened the place only made a 4% return on top of his money back, decided that's not worth the risk and work, and closed it. Many such cases!

Once you've done all the footwork, and you have a convincing plan to pitch to the loan officer at the bank, the better your chances of even giving it a shot. If you don't think you're up to it, then just consider a different career than food, or just keep floating along like you are. Bottom line is, nothing is impossible in this country. There's always a city in a flyover state that needs some culture, and if your shit is the best, you can sell it somewhere.

[Anonymous No.10717821]

>>10717803
This meme actually reached the point where there was an official statement saying she was a biological female.

[Anonymous No.10717824]

>>10714056
She really was so beautiful, and with a very interesting personality. Such a tragic loss.

[Anonymous No.10718147]

>>10717821
>that pic makes her k:d ratio even lamer

[Anonymous No.10718234]

>>10716383
>The BEST Jamaican restaurant in Indianapolis
Blue Lagoon?
If that's not what you're talking about and you haven't been there, their goat curry is GOAT.

[Anonymous No.10718240]

>>10718234
>their goat curry is GOAT

[Anonymous No.10718504]

>>10717803
Ofcourse she is a woman, just look at her hips

[Anonymous No.10719258]

>>10714062
You don't have to open a restaurant, you can do catering, you can open a place in a busy office area and do delivery only selling entire meal plans with options for lots of people, you can provide already made food to other restaurants, you can open a cafe and sell cake, desserts and pastries and have a simple lunch menu with sandwiches and salads

[Anonymous No.10719299]

>>10718504
Fucking gorgeous. What a damned shame about the crazy.

[Anonymous No.10719316]

>>10719299

[Anonymous No.10719318]

>>10714422
>>10718504
>>10719299
I find it amusing how /pol/tards have a strong resentment towards modern "art" but then this brown bitch comes along, fails a shooting and all of a sudden they're praising her """artwork""".

[Anonymous No.10719330]

>>10719318
Nobody is calling her an artist.
We just think she's cute and at least somewhat redpilled.

Anyway, there is good art being produced right now, certainly, but some guy cramming paint up his ass and shitting it onto a canvas isn't it.
That's a real think that happened, by the way. Am I really a "poltard" for thinking it doesn't quite compare to pic related?

[Anonymous No.10719345]

>>10719330
It's a weird bitch who was constantly menstruating because YouTube made it hard for her to make money off of her shitty videos and she decided to go period it up at YTHQ. There's nothing "redpilled" about that.

[Anonymous No.10719367]

>>10719345
Funny how the guy who so eagerly cries "pol" obviously belongs on r9k himself.