Canning tomatoes is a waste of time

[Anonymous No.11123192]

I've watched my mother spend around 60 hours this summer canning tomatoes. She's produced maybe 40 quart jars of tomatoes. I could go down to a grocery store and buy the same amount of tomatoes for $30.

>but what about the taste, anon
Better in some cases, actually worse in some compared to store-bought

[Anonymous No.11123216]

>>11123192
1) if your garden tomatoes aren't kicking the shit out of the supermarket ones then you done fucked up.

2) there's no point in canning mediocre tomatoes, unless you really really need to save that $30.

[bruce No.11123424]

>>11123192
Do you not understand the concept of fun?

It will also taste better with less salt more often than not.

[Anonymous No.11123521]

>>11123424
>60 hrs of canning tomatoes
maybe I dont

[Anonymous No.11123530]

>>11123521
I don't can to save money. I do it because I enjoy it.

[Anonymous No.11123532]

>>11123192
Yeah, like several anons will inevitably say, homegrown is superior
Most produce is picked at the peak of freshness, but that doesn’t imply the peak of flavor
You can get a better yield, but that’s only if you can dedicate time into the hobby
Someone with 60+ hours to spend doing this better have some kickass canning skills

[Anonymous No.11123537]

>>11123192
>canning to save money
>not to be self sufficient
Das rite, the walmart provide fo us
we don't need none of dem farmin skills

[Anonymous No.11123546]

>>11123192
My mom does crafts, I post shit on the internet and write music.

We all need hobbies. Plus I bet they make a great gift.

[Anonymous No.11123554]

>>11123532
>Most produce is picked at the peak of freshness
Depends on its end goal.

Commercial canned tomatoes will be picked and canned at their peak. They're quite good, actually. The tomatoes which are intended to be sold fresh are a different matter. For starters they are a cultivar that has been bred to have a nice round shape and survive shipping & display without bursting. They are liklely picked well before they were ripe with the goal being that they turn picture-perfect red right when they make it out of the warehouse and into the market. Those are fucking flavorless because they were picked too soon and are a shitty cultivar that's trade off flavor for thick skins. Homegrown is easily better for fresh tomatoes because you can grow cultivars which taste good, and because you can pick them at their optimal ripeness.

>>11123537
Farming skills are a waste of time; they interfere with playing muh fortnite and posting on instabook.

[Anonymous No.11123569]

>>11123537
This but unironically

[Anonymous No.11123585]

I agree with OP but not for the same reason he listed. Fresh tomatoes from the garden taste better than any store bought tomato, unless you have access to a local farm market. What you should be doing is only growing varieties that you don't get in markets, especially heirloom tomatoes and eating them fresh. I make a lot of tomato salads in the summer because I know I won't have the same come October. Tomato + balsamic + fresh basil + feta with a bit of olive oil is the best thing ever.

[Anonymous No.11123691]

>>11123192
I have nearly 100 quarts of tomatoes canned from tomatoes grown in my own garden this season. I control my food from seed to mouth in all manners and all steps. I can't say the same for bandage-filled cans of tomatoes from the store.

>60 hours
>only 40 quarts

That should be about 10-15 hours tops if you are really slow, 8-10 hours for normal speed, but unless you have a huge canner or set of canners, you'll never get below 6 hours. If you have two large canners on the stove (14 quarts at one time), the water bath time will be about 4 hours. The extra 2 hours is just prep work before the first bath and moving jars in and out of the canners. This is only for canning tomatoes without rending them into sauce or paste first. Sauce/paste packs on tons of hours and is best done in the winter when you need to heat the house anyway.

My main sauce tomato is Italian Red Pear. My main dehydrated tomato is Yellow Pear.

>old reposted pic

>>11123569
>>11123537
>tfw there's no walmart for 200+ miles of here

heh

[Anonymous No.11123742]

>>11123691
This is what I want to do, can you list all the equipment in the picture?
I want to go on this path, but so far I'm just learning to make jams and beer.

[Anonymous No.11123755]

Your mom is really slow at canning.

[Anonymous No.11123761]

>>11123537
I let my grass grow really long and then cut it with shears and dry it to feed to my guinea pigs. Does that count as farming?

[Anonymous No.11123775]

>>11123761
It’s farming to produce food for pets. Congratulations.

[Anonymous No.11123787]

>>11123755
perhaps OP could be.... lying?
no no no could not be

[Anonymous No.11123868]

>>11123192
My mom used to do that. The skins are the worst.

[Anonymous No.11123886]

>>11123742
Canning: Pressure canners, water bath canners, jar lifter, jars, lids, and rings.

A water bath canner can be any container that can hold water 1 inch over the jars while standing on canning rings on the bottom. So a deep stock pot can do quarts and shallower pots can do pints or half pints at least.

Prepping: Squeezo Strainer, antique Universal Food Choppers, Corona/Victoria grain mill, dehydrators, jelly pan (bowl-shaped pot kettle)

The older plastic dehydrators are gone and I now use one of these,
https://www.yescomusa.com/products/10-tray-stainless-steel-commercial-food-dehydrator-1200w

For alcohol I have everything I need to make beer, but I only make wine, mead, and country wines using large pots & glass gallon jugs, glass 5-7gallon carboys, and glass 15 gallon demijohns. I think the only specialized tool I have for that would be the wine thief, but I have a ton of air locks and tubing. I also use the Squeezo Strainer for juice extracting.

[Anonymous No.11123892]

>>11123192
send her ass back to Italy

[Anonymous No.11123908]

>>11123868
Skinning them is easy enough. Just get huge pot of boiling water and dunk the tomatoes into them for like 2mins until the skins start to loosen. Then run them under cool water, so you can handle them cool, and slip the skins off in one motion. I don't do that anymore unless I'm canning whole tomatoes. For everything else, I just core the stem end out, slice them up a little, and run them through the Universal food copper on the fine setting. I like whole tomatoes for making sauce and paste, so the seeds are not a problem for me. The skin pieces are so tiny that no one notices those anyway.

>pumpkin presure canned last year

[Anonymous No.11123933]

>>11123691
you look like Christina Ricci

[Anonymous No.11123974]

>>11123933
If only.

[Anonymous No.11124829]

>>11123192
Did your mother really spend a full week of twelve-hour days, or six days of ten hour days, or just over seven days of eight hour days, canning tomatoes? I understand canning and fermentation and baking your own sourdough and all that stuff, and I think it is a good hobby. However, if your amazing claim is true, your mother is clearly some kind of German who would otherwise be playing Factory Worker Simulator.

Incidentally, this works out to one and a half hours per quart jar of tomatoes, which seems like very bad efficiency. At that scale maybe she should have invested in additional devices to help her cook except THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN AND OP IS BULLSHITTING

[Anonymous No.11126062]

>>11123192
>60 hours
>40 quart jars of tomatoes

[Anonymous No.11126077]

>>11123192

[Anonymous No.11126092]

>>11126062
lmao this
i did 100lbs in about 6 hours

[Anonymous No.11126109]

>>11123192
I don't think you understand how much better garden tomatos can taste even processed. They don't have to be bred to withstand being shipped across a continent and they get picked when they're perfectly ripe. Also a lot of the time spent canning is just waiting so you can do other things.

[Anonymous No.11126114]

>>11126109
We pick them early to stop squirrels from eating them.

They kind of taste like bleach, water and tomato skins.

[Anonymous No.11126130]

>>11126114
You're supposed to shoot and eat the squirrels anon...

[Anonymous No.11126134]

>>11126114
You need a fence, not early picking. WTF is the point of growing them yourself if you're not going to let them vine-ripen?

[Anonymous No.11126138]

>>11126134
>Arboreal rodent
>Fence
Yeah that'll do the trick.

>>11126130
b-but rabies...

[Anonymous No.11126144]

>>11126138
>Rabies virus is killed by heating, therefore eating pasteurized milk or cooked meat (including dog meat) is not an exposure. However, drinking unpasteurized milk from a rabid cow/goat is considered an exposure.

[Anonymous No.11126147]

>>11123192
Yes it is, OP.

https://underwoodgardens.com/fermented-tomato-conserve-conserva-cruda-di-pomodoro/

[Anonymous No.11126171]

>>11126138
>Yeah that'll do the trick.

Obviously you need to cover the top too, dumbass. Why do you act like this is difficult?

[Anonymous No.11126205]

>>11126092
Very nice.

>>11126138
>>11126144
pic

>>11126171
I'm very militant when it comes to my garden and food. The score this year is 14 groundhogs, 9 racoons, and 4 opossums using .22lr and a 220 Conibear trap.

[Anonymous No.11126213]

>>11126205
>I'm very militant when it comes to my garden and food. The score this year is 14 groundhogs, 9 racoons, and 4 opossums using .22lr and a 220 Conibear trap.

Excellent. But if you are the same anon as above who is having to pick his 'maters before they are ripe you're still fucking up. Doesn't matter how many pest animals you kill, if they're still forcing you to harvest early you're losing the battle.

[Anonymous No.11126228]

>>11123886
Why the fuck do you make teabags? Can't you just store the dried leaves and then steep those? Is there some drastic flavor change after you turn them into powder?

[Anonymous No.11126248]

>>11123192
That's quite a lot of tomatoes. My homegrown ones smell and taste profoundly superior to storebought. Besides taste we have

1. No pesticides
2. Pride in your own garden and canned food
3. Handled by less people, less contagion
4. More nutritious by a LOT if your soil hasn't been used ceaselessly. Coffee grounds go to my garden and compost compared to commercial fertilizer? lol.

So yea I guess its a waste of time if you dont value the skill, the nutrition and flavor of something better. You probably wouldn't appreciate much else on this board.

[Anonymous No.11126261]

>>11126248
>placebo effect the post

[Anonymous No.11126268]

>>11126261
>i have no brainstem the reply

thanks for bumping though

[Anonymous No.11126271]

>>11126213
Why would I be that anon?

>>11126228
Loose leaf tends to crumble up a bit in storage. You need to strain it out of your herbal before drinking. Otherwise, you get that wonderful texture of leaf particles throughout your drinking experience. Those are mintbags, not teabags, fyi. They act as their own filter and measure out everything perfectly.

>>11126261
That doesn't even make sense, anon.

[Anonymous No.11126276]

>>11126261
Haven't you ever had tomatoes from grandma's garden and been blown away by how awesome they taste compared to the watery shit you get from a supermarket? If not, that's incredibly sad.

I picture you sitting there playing old DOS games on an ancient IBM PC, yelling about "muh placebo" when people try to tell you about PS4s and modern computers.

[Anonymous No.11126278]

>>11126271
>Why would I be that anon?
Because there would be no point in replying to my post if you were not.

[Anonymous No.11126284]

>>11126276
haha, what an imagination you have my good sir :^)

[Anonymous No.11126292]

>>11126284
Pants-on-head retarded claims require pants-on-head retarded examples to get the point across.

[Anonymous No.11126295]

>>11123192
>40 quart jars of tomatoes. I could go down to a grocery store and buy the same amount of tomatoes for $30.
you must buy the shittiest cheapest junk if you could buy 40 plus quarts of tomato for 30 dollars

[Anonymous No.11126302]

>>11126292
like perhaps claiming the coffee grounds you huck in the garden make your 'maters more 'utritious?

[Anonymous No.11126316]

>>11126278
I was stating my solution. Which is far more rewarding. Plus, you can sell the cleaned skulls on ebay for a few bucks.

>>11126302
Coffee grounds are a high nitrogen fertilizer, they won't affect fruit flavor, but they will allow the plant to be leafier and have more growth. This is needed for the first few weeks of the tomato plant's life. After that you use an NPK heavier in P and K than N, for better flowering and fruiting. Flavor changes come from restriction of water a few days prior to harvesting and of course cultivar. Most people don't grow the same cultivars as store tomatoes. Also, most people don't use hydroponics at home, unlike how most store bought tomatoes are grown. Hydroponic tomatoes never get the chemical changes from water restriction prior to harvesting.

[Anonymous No.11126317]

but store bought tomatoes would not have been lovngly canned by your mom. One of my cooksbooks has this saying on one off the first ppages: "better a dish of kraut cooked with love than roast ox with hate"

[Anonymous No.11126320]

>>11126302
That wasn't my claim, but it's not as silly as you might think.

Coffee grounds are well known in the gardening community for being a great fertilizer. I don't think there is anything unique about them that you wouldn't get from other forms of compost, but any good natural fertilizer is preferable to none of it. I doubt anyone could claim that coffee grounds specifically result in better tomatoes, but home-grown in a garden fed with natural fertilizers (of which coffee is just one example) is almost certain to be better than factory farmed with chemical fertilizer.

[Anonymous No.11126341]

>>11126316
I don't know if it's relevant for tomatoes but don't forget they're an easy way of lowering soil pH, too.

[Anonymous No.11126371]

>>11126341
the acidic properties of coffee grounds are often quoted but is really an old wive's tale.

https://extension.oregonstate.edu/gardening/techniques/coffee-grounds-composting

[Anonymous No.11126633]

>>11126371
I dunno, I make cold brew and my grounds come out acidic. I don't have a garden so I don't know how practically useful for that they'd be, mine go to the worms or mushrooms.

[Anonymous No.11126649]

>>11123192
the boxed passata is hard to beat.

[Anonymous No.11126657]

>>11123216
if your garden tomatoes aren't kicking the shit out of the supermarket ones then you done fucked up.
This

[Anonymous No.11126664]

>>11123192
>home grown tomatoes that are sometimes worse than store bought
How the fuck is that even possible?

[Anonymous No.11126681]

>>11126664
He saved seeds from store tomatoes and grew them hydroponically in non-stressful conditions.

[Anonymous No.11126712]

>>11123192
When your mother is gone you're going to regret not having her tomatoes around, faggot

[Anonymous No.11127249]

>>11126712
a lot of people in the world are not as soft as you, my dude
when you see people out and about acting like men just remind yourself "oh right, not everyone is me". things might make a little more sense that way.

[Anonymous No.11127258]

All modern tomatoes are tasteless shit due to gene manipulation.

[Anonymous No.11127272]

>>11123192
>actually worse in some compared to store-bought
Bullshit, tomatoes are pretty much the thing that tastes most different when garden grown as opposed to store bought

[Anonymous No.11127273]

>>11127249
My mom used to beat me with broom handles.
I'm about as soft as hardened concrete, holmes.

[Anonymous No.11127293]

I live in Indiana so tomatoes from my garden tastes the same as supermarket. As a matter of fact I pass a tomato field on the way to the supermarket and routinely see tomatoes on the side of the road that have fallen from the trucks that transport them to the cannery an hour away.

[Anonymous No.11127302]

>>11127273
shit I didn't know, my bad my bad

[Anonymous No.11127415]

>>11127258
If tomatoes are tasteless then you may have a neurological disorder you should have checked out.

>>11127293
>tomatoes from my garden tastes the same as supermarket

If that good, bad, or neutral? What cultivar(s) do you grow. I prefer Purple Cherokee for a slicing tomato.

[Anonymous No.11127446]

>>11126633
>I dunno, I make cold brew and my grounds come out acidic.

What is their pH?

[Anonymous No.11127458]

>>11127415
I thought this was about canning tomatoes which is always plum.

[Anonymous No.11127478]

>>11127458
For canning you can use anything, but for making sauce and paste it is easier to use a paste tomato. That can be pear, plum, or cherry since there are cultivars best suited to sauce/paste due to their low water content. Making sauce/paste out of non-standard tomatoes takes longer, but it allows you to make some very unique tasting sauces.

[Anonymous No.11127501]

>>11127458
It's pretty common to can other sorts of tomatoes too. they might not be ideal for saucemaking, but it's better than wasting them by throwing them out.

I usually grow beefsteaks. I eat as many as I can, and I can the leftovers because that's preferable to tossing them out.

[Anonymous No.11127523]

>>11127478
Yeah, when I do slicing tomatoes I grow in soiless pots so I do determinates. I grew german queens last year; they were meh. I can get vine ripe tomatoes at the grocery store for .99/lb in July/August and they taste fine.

[Anonymous No.11127547]

>>11127523
>soiless pots

Like Kratky method hydroponics or something?

[Anonymous No.11127573]

>>11123192
Are you planning on eating 40 quarts of tomatoes before next summer's crop? You would have to average a jar a week.

[Anonymous No.11127596]

>>11127547
No, this is fundamental stuff my man.
I'd recommend going to your local University for an outreach/extension style gardening class. They are very inexpensive and can get you started in the basic.

[Anonymous No.11127675]

>>11127596
>>11127523
Well, what are your, "soiless pots," then? What NPK are you using? How deep are they? Is it DWC, Kratky, aero, Dutch bucket, aquaculture, or ???

[Anonymous No.11127687]

>>11127675
>aquaculture

Aquaponics I mean.

[Anonymous No.11127736]

>>11123691
>I control my food from seed to mouth in all manners and all steps
what about airborne agents that airplanes release into the air which end up on your crops?

[Anonymous No.11127759]

>>11127736
Just grow indoors and use a hepa filter and bubbler filter if you are that paranoid.

[Anonymous No.11127772]

>>11127249
>it's manly to not miss your mother

You've got to have a very tiny penis to compensate this hard

[Anonymous No.11127819]

>>11127772
Are you meming?

[Anonymous No.11127838]

>>11123761

Why is this so funny

[Anonymous No.11128307]

>>11127596
>I'm so up my own ass with my cherokee purples that I won't answer a simple direct question
love this board because spergs like you make it just slightly frustrating to browse

[Anonymous No.11128352]

>>11128307
I never grew cherokee purples
You can't even follow a thread.

[Anonymous No.11128365]

>>11128307
Actually, anon, the person who grows the Cherokee Purple tomatoes was asking these >>11127675 & >>11127547 I figure the other poster just isn't here to answer until later, but then.... >>11128352

[Anonymous No.11128367]

>>11128352
oh and here
https://www.extension.purdue.edu/new/ho-200.pdf

[Anonymous No.11128373]

>>11123761
if you are raising guinea pigs for meat, then yes
growing their food counts

[Anonymous No.11128382]

>>11127736
>muh chemtrails
I thought they banned you from the internet AJ, no?

[Anonymous No.11128398]

>>11128367
>>11127596
>nothing but redirection and not answering a straight forward question

Well?

[Anonymous No.11128409]

>>11128398
>i'm too stupid to read a 3 page pdf.
You're not getting far in life my friend.

[Anonymous No.11128442]

>>11123691
why do people hide in refrigerators and jump out and scare people?

[Anonymous No.11128443]

>>11123192
It's a hobby that she enjoys.

[Anonymous No.11128445]

>>11128409
Is that what you are using in your setup? A soiless mix? There's no wonder your tomatoes are tasteless. You are forced to water them far more than normal. It is a type of hydroponics setup, fyi.

[Anonymous No.11128449]

>>11126062
Nice OC, Anon.

[Anonymous No.11128461]

>>11128445
I knew you were simple.
It is why I stopped responding and ignored you.

[Anonymous No.11128475]

>>11128461
>>11128367
>>11127596
This guy doesn't even grow anything.

[Anonymous No.11128493]

>>11128475
This guy thinks raised bed gardening with a soilless mix is hydroponics.

[Anonymous No.11128503]

>>11126062

cute post

[Anonymous No.11128506]

>>11128493
Soiless mix is hydro. That's what you use specifically for hydro. Raised beds has nothing to do with this conversation at all. You should probably actually read the shit you post for other people to read first.

[Anonymous No.11128510]

>>11128493
what do you use besides soil?
raised bed typically implies that it's soil
but soilless mix typically implies hydroponics
If you aren't using soil, then you're usually using some medium that requires constant watering

you aren't being specific and everyone thinks you're an idiot because you refuse to explain things that everyone around you agrees is not what you think they are

why would you make a raised bed if you weren't going to fill it with soil, there's literally no need for the raised bed

[Anonymous No.11128519]

>>11123761
Enjoy not knowing what grass is in your yard and feeding your guinea pigs cyanide laced shit

[Anonymous No.11128521]

>>11128506
>Soiless mix is hydro.
No little timmy. Simple I say.

[Anonymous No.11128525]

>>11128510
nope.

[Anonymous No.11128531]

>>11128525
One more since I'm working with simple.

[Anonymous No.11128546]

>>11128521
>>11128525
That's for containers, not for raised beds
you wou
>premixed potting soil or soilless mixes
>premixed
this implies that you should mix the soilless medium with soil so get a suitable medium
you
>for larger scale container gardening, mixing your own media
Again, you have to mix the soilless mix with the soil
The soilless mix provides aeration and prevents clumping which in turn prevents rot and suffocation
But because the soilless mix doesn't hold onto water, you have to mix it with soil or set up a hydroponic rig so your plants can get enough water

Please do literally any amount of research, you won't see truly soilless medium used without hydroponics because your plants would literally die

[Anonymous No.11128557]

>>11128546
>Again, you have to mix the soilless mix with the soil
No timmy, you're wrong again. Please stop. You're embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.11128563]

>>11128557
That's for small containers, not raised beds

[Anonymous No.11128568]

>>11128521
>>11128525
>>11128531
>>11128557
This is the same type of mix we used in the tomato greenhouse I worked at, only we used coconut coir instead of peat moss for the fiber. It is all hydro.

Reposted pics related.

[Anonymous No.11128586]

>>11123192
You're right there isn't. If you want canned tomatoes just buy them. If you grow your tomatoes cook and eat them.

[Anonymous No.11128587]

>>11128568
Yup, you use soilless in hydroponics, but raised container gardening is not hydroponics.

[Anonymous No.11128596]

>>11128563
>>11128557
>>11128587
https://www.finegardening.com/article/choosing-the-right-soilless-mix
This is the website you pulled that from, instead of just posting the link

it's very clear it's about containers, not raised beds
the website even addresses how quickly water drains from these mixes
for raised beds you would have to mix soilless with soil to get a suitable medium
you really wouldn't have a raised bed that was fully soilless unless you had hydroponics

[Anonymous No.11128608]

>>11128367
>>11127596
>>11127523
>>11128521
>>11128525
>>11128531
>>11128557
I don't think anon grows anything. I've never seen a buttmad gardener/farmer posting before. I've seen my fair share of trolls posing as gardeners/farmers.

>>11128586
>If you grow your tomatoes cook and eat them.

You can them when you can't eat that many. It only takes a short while to can a batch of tomatoes. The OP most likely is just bait. No one takes that long to process tomatoes.

>>11128587
So, now you say you are using soil in your raised beds? What happened to the pots you said you were using? Did they grow too, like your nose has been growing all this thread?

>>11128596
It even says it right in the images posted above that the soilless mix is for containers. lol

[Anonymous No.11128623]

>>11128608
>So, now you say you are using soil in your raised beds?
no there are too many retards in this thread that can't follow a thread. I never said I used raised beds (I said pots as in containers) but some dumbass said raised beds were hydroponics and I corrected him.

There are just too many stupid people posting rather than reading.

[Anonymous No.11128645]

>>11128623
This isn't you: >>11128587 ? Because your pots are a hydroponic system since they are soilless. It has nothing to do with raised beds since you stated "pots" a long time ago.

[Anonymous No.11128655]

>>11128623
literally the first mention of raised beds was you
some guy asked about soilless pots being hydroponics and you said no, even though soilless mixes are used for hydroponics literally all of the time and even though soilless doesn't immediately mean potting soil
Because that anon did mention the kratky method which is as soilless as you can get

you fucked up
everyone knows it
admit you're wrong and leave

or just leave

[Anonymous No.11128665]

>>11128645
Are you saying a pot a with a soilless potting mix is a hydroponic system?
that's a weird definition but If that's what you say then I guess I grew "hydroponic" tomatoes.

[Anonymous No.11128671]

>>11128665
wikipedia
>Hydroponics is a subset of hydroculture, the method of growing plants without soil, using mineral nutrient solutions in a water solvent.
google definition
>the process of growing plants in sand, gravel, or liquid, with added nutrients but without soil.
merriamwebster
>the growing of plants in nutrient solutions with or without an inert medium (such as soil) to provide mechanical support

he's kinda right

[Anonymous No.11128672]

>>11128665
Christ anon, that's the only thing I've said at all to you since I first asked what setup you were using, 1 post prior to you starting to sperg out.

[Anonymous No.11128682]

>>11128655
But you can do soilless in raised beds.
The article from purdue says you can and here
http://www.gardenfundamentals.com/soil-for-raised-beds/

Please read this and stop posting.
Embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.11128693]

>>11128671
>nutrient solutions
I never used a nutrient solution.
Only powders/pellets.

[Anonymous No.11128709]

>>11128682
>you can do soilless in raised beds.
>link literally reads "soil-for-raised-beds"

I feel like I shouldn't even waste my time reading that. Also, yes, you can do hydro in raised beds, but holy hell it would be a waste of water and fertilizer.

>>11128693
Perhaps you should have kept reading before posting a knee jerk response.

[Anonymous No.11128716]

>>11128693
Still hydro, "...the process of growing plants in sand, gravel, or liquid, with added nutrients but without soil."

[Anonymous No.11128718]

>>11128682
It points how why you shouldn't use soilless mixes for raised beds actually
>This will cost you a fortune.
>I am sure this mix will grow great vegetables, but you will need to water a lot.
>These kind of mixes have a number of problems.
There's effectively no real upside to doing this unless you use hydroponics
aka watering it often

[Anonymous No.11128731]

>>11128709
>I feel like I shouldn't even waste my time reading that.
You haven't read anything I posted, why start now?

Also, watering your garden isn't hydroponics. If you think growing plants in a flower pot with a soilless mix is hydroponics then either you're stupid or trollling.

[Anonymous No.11128747]

>>11128568
love the smell of a greenhouse, not as big of a fan of the heat

[Anonymous No.11128773]

>>11128731
>being this much of an idiot

Wow, grats on that, really.

>>11128747
The heat isn't too bad. It was around 90F and 80% humidity 24/7. It was nice wearing shorts and tank top in the dead of winter when it was -40F outside and a blizzard was raging. It was 5 years of an endless summer for me.

[Anonymous No.11128790]

>>11128773
was it heated during the winter? oh... wait blizzard, of course it was
southwestern ontario flower grower here, 1/4 of the bays are heated to about 60F and the rest just sat above freezing or so. It's nice in the winter when it's cool and moist but the summer makes me want to die.

[Anonymous No.11128796]

>>11128773
>>being this much of an idiot
>Wow, grats on that, really.
This is the thanks I get for educating you?
shame. embarrassing really.

[Anonymous No.11128812]

>>11128790
Yeah, evidently when you have free gas you just burn burn burn.

[Anonymous No.11129190]

>>11123192

>go to the shops to get canned tomatoes
>99% are imported from Italy
>aussie tomatoes cost less, taste better
>cunts buy foreign muck instead because "they're more authentic"

you cant make sauce with inauthentic non-Italian tomatoes apparently


If I had room to grow my own I would, fucking delicious and literally free for years if you tend to your plants for 2 minutes once a month, your mum is fruitpilled.

>watched mummy

explains everything

t. boomer

[Anonymous No.11129197]

>>11123691

based and fruitpilled

[Anonymous No.11129239]

>>11129190
The most laughable part is that tomatoes are a mostly Peruvian. So, "authentic" tomato is not Italian.