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Chilean > Californian > Italian >>>>>> French
You know in your hearts it's true.

>> No.11211477

Just because you post some titties doesn't mean your tastes are objective

>> No.11211521
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>califonian even being on the list

>> No.11211542

>>11211521
40 years later and still SEETHING
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/columnist/abrams/2016/08/31/40-years-later-french-wine-judgment-paris-california-napa-valley/89602248/

>> No.11211555

Ill take two liters of milk, plz

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>>11211453
Fuck you cunt
Australian>New Zealand>Spanish>French>literallywho

>> No.11211617

Not even a frog but anyone who rates another nation's wine over French wine have no idea what they're talking about.
I know a lot of posters on this site have very fragile egos but please....

>> No.11211640

>>11211566
>Australian + New Zealand = literallywho

FTFY, m8

>> No.11211666

Spanish and Italian wine are the absolute worst ive ever had

>>11211617
i have never had a bad french wine

>> No.11211730

>>11211617
I'm an alcoholic frog and I don't care what people think, côtes du rhône is where it's at. Gigondas, Chateauneuf, St Joseph have top tier wines that complement our local cuisine. Argue away I ain't gonna stop drinking anyway.

>> No.11211740

>>11211666
I'm not sure what I'd call a good wine, unless it's just what I like, but in that case I've never had any wine from the main meme regions (Europe) that were notably good. My fav has been Australian, 19 Crimes has a wonderful chocolaty taste and is my go too. I've had some nice Californian and African wines too. Actually I just remembered global warming means grapes can be grown in my country (Wales) now which means I have native wine production, I should get my tastebuds on that for a giggle.

>> No.11211749

>>11211453
New Jersey>>>>California

>> No.11211890

Even though I'll probably get laughed at from elitist wine "experts". I recommend Riesling (german rhine region, somewhat close to France) if you wanna try something new. It's a good wine to just drink or welcome guests with.

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>>11211453
Chile is really good bang for buck if you want bordeaux clones on the cheap, and they have a few high-priced wines that are worth the money, but your list kinda betrays your poorfag flyover status
>>11211542
>muh judgment of paris
100% guaranteed this poster doesn't even own a corkscrew
>>11211566
Maximum pleb
>>11211617
Also, this
>>11211666
Drink enough wine from any country and you'll find bad stuff and sometimes even good stuff, it's the ratio that makes the difference
>>11211730
Patrician taste
>>11211740
>19 crimes
Maximum soccer mom
>>11211749
t. Freakonomics listener
>>11211890
Riesling isn't a region, it's a grape, and Alsacians also make good riesling, but the best comes from Mosel. Also anyone who looks down on riesling is an absolute moron, there is bad wine made from every kind of grape. Bad riesling was a big fad in the 1970s-1980s but the good producers never stopped producing

And now the TRUE patrician list

God tier
France, Italy
High tier
Germany, Spain, Greece, Georgia, Hungary
Mid tier
United States, Portugal, Chile
Low tier
Lebanon, Austria, Argentina
Shit tier
Australia, New Zealand, South Africa
Literally where? tier
Canada, Israeli (((boiled))) wine, Mexico

>> No.11212285

>>11211566
>A*glo wine
That swill should be illegal.

>> No.11212340

>>11211913
i feel like italian wine is overrated but i can get on board with most of your ranking

>> No.11212356

Wine experts are complete frauds

Just a reminder that Napa Valley and New Jersey wines absolutely obliterated any yurotrash wines in numerous blind taste tests and that experts claimed white wines that were dyed red had red wine characteristics

>> No.11212368

>>11211453

Why the fuck would you even put Californian wines as your American choice on that list. There are many states with vastly superior produce to the swill those commiefornians call wine, such as Oregon or Washington.

Anyway Old World wines BTFO of New World. And out of the new world wines it is probably Australians that top it.

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>>11212368
>vastly superior produce to the swill those commiefornians call wine, such as Oregon or Washington
As if WA and OR aren't as based commie as CA, lol! Never forget, trends spread from the coasts to insulated flyovers. You too shall join the fold.

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South american = good red varietals
Australia/new zealand = good white varietals South africa = literally just shiraz (perfect climate)
France = exceptional regional blends / very poor varietals
Italy = sommelier tier; very mixed, hard to generalize
North america = niggers, ignore, ignore, ignore

>> No.11212521

>>11212368
because plebs
>>11212495
is this even English?
>>11212505
0/10 at least you tried

>> No.11212523

>Anything from the New World even being on the list

Italian wine is objectively the best, there are a lot of styles and brands catering the most tastes and a majority of them is very well done.

>> No.11212531

>argentina isn't even on the list
That just shows how little you know about wines anon

>> No.11212564

>>11212505

BASED AND REDPILLED

>> No.11212605

>>11212531
probably because it's shit, other than the torrontes
argie 'bec belongs in the trash along with aussie shiraz

>> No.11212656

>>11212605

ouch Argies BTFO

English wine is superior to it for sure.

>> No.11212672

>>11212656
never had bong wine, not too common outside knifecrime island
wish I could say the same of argie 'bec outside kirchnerstan

you should try some cahors wine, they know how to make the stuff taste good

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>>11211453
>Californian

>> No.11212680

I like South Africans.

>> No.11212688

There are at least a hundred of wines in italy... and each other are very different. When I read "italian" or "french" what are you talking about? Try a barbera superiore... then let me know. Whaterever is fine you like some shit, so prices wonlt get higher

>> No.11212693

>>11212605
You have been drinking the wrong wine nigger, only good argentinian wines are malbec and cabernet sauvignon anything other than that is shit

>> No.11212706

>>11211453
italian wine is only good for killing plants.

>> No.11212708

>Alcoholic beverage snobbery
I will never understand that shit.

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>>11211453
I thought wine preference was incredibly subjective and transformative, yet here you autistic spergs are. Arguing which country is based and which one is cringe. I tell you what's cringe. You. You who are reading this. You're an insecure little faggot who thinks a certain preference of wine somehow makes you less of a useless shit. Guess what, it doesn't. Get a fucking grip

Also, the best type of wine is Spanish Gran Reserva fucking fight me

>> No.11212728

>spend $30 on recommended Euro wine
>wow tastes like water
>spend $14 on Australian wine
>simply delicious
There's no sense in drinking the Euro stuff unless you live there. And it's probably the same for non-Euro wines if you live in Europe. The wine export market is a load of shit.

>> No.11212739

>your favorite wine comes from Alaska

Alaskan or go home.

>> No.11212747

>>11212739
made with grizzly piss and salmon eggs

>> No.11212750

>>11212693
>torrontes is "wrong"
>ruined malbec and ruined cab sauv are "right"
so you like horrid, overextracted fruit and oak bombs. you have the preferences of an ogre.
>>11212717
>nobody should have preferences except me
I don't mind you so much. if you can get your hands on a bottle of LdH tondonia gran reserva rosado, do so.

>> No.11212775

>>11212750
Keep drinking californian and south african grape juice retard

>> No.11212776

>>11212708
Then don't post in this thread.
Fuck off to some fast food blog thread or template webm thread.

>> No.11212786

>>11212775
why would I drink either of those? I've already indicated a strong distaste for south african wines and I think california is mostly shit too. the only reason I put the US at mid tier is because the other wine regions are doing all the leg work, unfortunately california is dragging the whole country down, like a boat anchor

it seems to me you of all people should have an appreciation for those areas, considering your taste for argie crap

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>>11212728
>i can only taste a wine if it's fruity and overbearingly alcoholic

spoken like a true pleb, all their wines are twist-off for a reason

post a number from 1-120

>> No.11212822

>>11212806

You need to stop spending your money on wine and get yourself a proper place to live. Thats an appalling way to store wine. Your like the bloke who lives in a council estate but drives a used Bentley. It just doesn't look right, doesn't suit the area and won't last very long.

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>>11212822
no

>> No.11212860

chilean wine too sulfuric
enjoy your dead tastebuds

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>>11212806
>storing wine like this
ishygddt

>> No.11213009

>>11211453
Rael Queeeenz and Kangz and sheeeeeiiiiittttt drink Lambrusco or Red Moscato

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>>11211453
where did al/ck move to?

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Had a coworker that drank a box of pic related every night. Sometimes break into another box.

It's not bad for the price, but if I ever drank more than half a box at a time I'd throw up every time.

>> No.11213472

why are people such snobs when it comes to wine?
it's just fucking alcohol lmao

>> No.11213549

>>11213472
Plebs, the lot of you
Either way, Greek wine is the best.

>> No.11213776

>>11211453
New Zealand > Italian > French >>> Australian >>>>> sucking fluid off an Indian street >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Californian

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>>11211453
>>11211566
MILKY MILKY WARM AND TASTY!

MOMMY! MILKY! PLEASE BE HASTY!

REFRESHING DRINK FROM MOMMY'S UDDERS!

I WANT MOMMY'S AND NO OTHER'S!

GIVE IT! GIVE IT! GIVE IT NOW!

GIVE ME MILKY, LAZY SOW!

UNTIL YOU DO I'LL SCREAM I'LL SHOUT!

I'M CRY I'LL WHINE AND STOMP ABOUT!

UNTIL MY BELLY IS FULL AND HAPPY!

I REFUSE TO TAKE A NAPPY!

>> No.11214393

>>11211666
A good piece of advice for wine newbies is when in doubt, buy Bordeaux. You’ll usually get something good.
My favorite wine is domaine Ray-Jane from Provence.

>>11211730
>Chateauneuf
Do you mean Chateauneuf du Pape by any chance?

>> No.11214399

>>11214391
peak /ck/ maturity

>> No.11214409

>>11214391
based rhymes my man XD

>> No.11214435

>>11211453
there is no difference

>> No.11214559

>>11213776
New Zealand = Australian

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>>11212806
>storing whites and reds in the same """""""""""cellar"""""""""""""
>NO TEMPERATURE CONTROL
>HUMIDITY?..... WHAT? WHERE!
>WHY IS THE FLOOR SHAKING!!!!!!!

>> No.11214791

>>11211542
>muh judgement of Paris
And look how California has stagnated in quality since as Oregon and even fucking Washington State are making better shit now because they aren’t retarded. Even Southern Italy is putting out better wine then most of Napa and Sonoma.
>>11211913
>High tier
>Germany
Alsace makes better whites then anything Germany does. Most overrated Old World region.

>> No.11214800

>>11213549
A good aged Xinomavro is nice but all the good stuff never leaves Greece especially given their financial state.

>> No.11214810

>>11212806
What kind of retarded faggot stores wine at the end of the bed

>> No.11215361 [DELETED] 

>>11211453
Sauce on OP's pic is Sanna Meira (also goes by Sanna Torr).

>> No.11215389
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>>11213358
That's called alcoholism and it doesn't care what country it comes from.

>>11212806
Trader Joe's collector

>> No.11215421

>>11214791

Actually never had an Alsace Riesling I really liked. Somehow they make it all taste like an odd version of Gewurztraminer. I think in reality it's just the other way around, Alsace is totally overrated.

>> No.11215444

>>11211913
>Japanese wine not even on that list
You should try some anon. You seem like the type who would enjoy being surprised by good wine.

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>>11215444
kill yourself fucking autistic weeb

>> No.11215455

>>11213358
>well over 1 gallon of wine
>sometimes break into another box
And I thought I had a problem.

>> No.11215459 [DELETED] 

>>11215453
>autistic weeb
Calm your tits fat boy. Japanese wine is underrated. Same with Canadian frost wine.

>> No.11215473 [DELETED] 

>>11215459
>Japanese wine is underrated
underrated like vidyo, chinese cartoons and nippon mango
kys weeb

>> No.11215476 [DELETED] 

>>11215473
>anime website
Now go back to your subreddit anon.

>> No.11215483 [DELETED] 

>>11215476
>anime website
Kek.
Are you a soccer mom who wandered in here from Facebook?

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>>11215476
>le reddit
go watch your chinese childrens cartoons loser

>> No.11215489

>>11215483
Are you that faggot who wondered here from tumblr?

>> No.11215491

>>11215483
Probably not far from the truth, anon.
If you were to ask the average normie what 4Chan was about half would say it's a white power racist site and the others would think its about Japanese cartoons.

>> No.11215493 [DELETED] 

>>11215476
Show your animu and mango collection

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>>11215483
>>11215486
samefag

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>>11212973
>>11214702
I keep the room at 55 degrees with a small portable ac

>>11214810
me

>>11215389
>trader joe's collector

nah senpai, there's not a single bottle on there worth less than 20

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>>11215496
eat your ramen faggot

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>>11215493
>Show your animu and mango collection
Here's some of it I guess. Now show your post op inverted penis.
>>11215503
You're still a fag though.

>> No.11215536

>>11215496
holy moly i havent seen that chug kid in years

>> No.11215539 [DELETED] 

>>11215503
shopped

>> No.11215542 [DELETED] 

>>11211453
>Italian wine better than French
In what universe? You can't buy a cheap $6 import and expect that it represents French wine.

imo
French > South American (Chilean/Argentine) Italian > Australian/NZ > Spanish > everywhere else
I don't know where to put California/US. I think 95/100 Californian wines are absolute shit, but I've had a few that I thought were surprisingly quite good. I think the vintage of a California wine has a lot more bearing on the final product than most other regions; perhaps because of their volatile weather. I can't say that I remember having had a great OR/WA wine and local stuff in the center of the country all tastes like spiced rubbing alcohol.

>>11213220
/r9k/ is the only board that will house it, so it's basically dead because all the al/ck/s were /r9k/ posters anyway and they get too distracted with reeing when they go over there.

>>11215486
>>11215483
This is an anime website. If you disagree, then you out yourself as ignorant and a tourist.

>> No.11215554 [DELETED] 

>>11215542
>this is an anime website
Found the casual.
Go back to Facebook, Daria.

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>>11215554
>he doesn't know what the first board on 4chan even was
>he doesn't know why 4chan was created in the first place
>he doesn't know who the core 4chan userbase is
Look, you've made yourself look stupid enough today. It's time you stopped posturing to look smart and cool, because we all know better. In fact, I think it's time you stopped posting altogether. Save yourself any shred of dignity, you dumb faggot.

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>>11215583

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>>11215583
This a cooking board, not an anime cooking board you autistic fucking zilch

>shred of dignity
>as he watches pedo cartoons
Lol

>> No.11215598 [DELETED] 

>>11215583
>he doesn't know who the core 4chan userbase is
youre obviously a newfag since even you dont know that 90% was and is just /pol/ and /b/

weed newfag retard

>> No.11215599 [DELETED] 

>>11215554
>Weak bait

>> No.11215601 [DELETED] 

>>11215583
Hi Daria!
Did the kids get back from the ball game ok?

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All the boards are anime boards.

>> No.11215615 [DELETED] 

>>11215601
>trying to force an unfunny meme
just stop anon

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>>11215598
>dont know that 90% was and is just /pol/ and /b/
90% of the summer tourists and tripfags, sure. Not 90% of the active userbase, not even close. But I guess you probably don't use the good boards usually, right? Why don't you go back to the shitposting containment boards you love so much?
>>11215596
>a cooking board
A cooking board on an anime website. 4chan is a site and /ck/ is a board on the site. Please get your terminology figured out so I don't have to waste time explaining it to you again.

Look, just stop, sweeties. I know you're angry but there's probably a subreddit where you can post about how 4chan made you angry today. Why don't you go find that and leave the adults to talk? Thanks, sport.

>> No.11215633 [DELETED] 

>>11215612
so >>>/sp/ and >>>/out/ are also chinese cartoon boards

>> No.11215642 [DELETED] 

>>11215633
Yes. This is an anime website so all boards are anime boards.

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>>11215629
>90% of the summer tourists and tripfags, sure
NEWFAG
NEWFAG
NEWFAG

go suck a nippon cock newfag

>> No.11215645 [DELETED] 

>>11215633
Yes.

>> No.11215656 [DELETED] 

>>11215642
Thanks for derailing what was a half decent thread with your weeaboo bullshit.
Thanks a lot, man.

>> No.11215666 [DELETED] 

>>11215656
I'm not even a weeb. /a/ would screech at me if they had the list of all animes I ever watched.
I just have the brains to know where I am and what community I'm contributing to, and the good breeding not to try to force it to be something it isn't. If you want to post braindead bullshit on a non-anime-based website, I think you know where to go and how to get there.

Let's not forget who actually derailed this thread:
>>11215453
>>11215473
It was this dumb faggot who can't hear the word "Japan" without going into a full-retard rage mode. Really makes you wonder if a weeb molested him or something.

>> No.11215671 [DELETED] 

>>11215656
>derailing
see
>>11215453

>> No.11215676 [DELETED] 

>>11215642
>/a/ is the anime board of an anime website
Plain fucking embarrassing and I say that as someone who's into anime.
You're a fucking idiot.

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Fellas, why can't we just all enjoy the best foods from every culture?

>> No.11215683 [DELETED] 

>>11215681
>Fellas, why can't we just all enjoy the best foods from every culture?
Some anons hate japanese wine I guess.

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>>11215666
>I'm not even a weeb

>> No.11215689 [DELETED] 

I'm guessing some nations are threatened by the sheer idea of other nations producing wine.

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>>11215496
>weeb intuition

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>>11215689
this
india is severely underrated desu
best wine in in the whole world is from india

>> No.11215718 [DELETED] 

>>11211913
>chinese wine
>vietnamese wine
ommited

>> No.11215726 [DELETED] 

>>11215709
Well most European wines are severely overrated, and they need to be in order to sell.

>> No.11215745

>>11211913
>Germany
>High tier
>United States
>Mid Tier
>both of them above Argentina
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

>> No.11215792

>>11215666
>who derailed the thread
You could of just ignored him and applied a filter but no,you had to fucking sperg out.
The fact that you haven't even been saging your replies tells me you're either a newfag or a troll and I'm inclined to believe the latter quite frankly.
In any case if you want to avoid opinions contrary to your own so badly go and post on a more appropriate board.
Quite frankly if you get a ban for this abuse it won't be for long enough.
>>11211453
Chilean wine is underrated. I think a few bad apples have unfairly tarnished it's name amongst wine drinkers.

>> No.11215808

>>11211453
>>11211566
Is this the boobs>>>>>ass thread?

>> No.11215821

>>11211913
>list
Nailed it

>> No.11215831 [DELETED] 

>>11215792
>The fact that you haven't even been saging your replies tells me you're either a newfag or a troll and I'm inclined to believe the latter quite frankly.
3/10

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>>11211542

Long after the result, French winemakers still claimed French wines were superior, arguing California wines would not “age” well. So in 2006, another blind tasting was held of the original vintages. The result? California wines won again, with Ridge Monte Bello placing first — both the original 1971 and a newer 2000 vintage taking first in a re-enactment (the 2000 will be poured at the Commonwealth Club event).

>> No.11215867

>>11215839
2000 wasn't a vintage year for California wines.
I doubt 1971 was either.

>> No.11215868

>>11215689
Some people just see food as a battleground for their squabbles and politics.

For instance, I honestly can't tell if all the hate for California wine in this thread is because our wine is legit low tier or if it's this sites stick up their ass about us in general being dragged into yet another thread. On one hand I'm not going to pretend our wine is amazing, it's good in some ways and weak in others, but it certainly isn't the undrinkable swill people are claiming it is. What makes me especially suspicious is that supposed wine connoisseurs in this thread believe all of our wine comes from Napa and that one anons insistence on refering to it as "commiefornia" despite this thread having nothing to do with politics.

Don't get me wrong I'm open to the idea of our wine being kinda shit, but I'm sure you guys can understand why I think this discussion might get tainted.

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>>11215839
s

>> No.11215878

>>11211453
jesus h christ, those tits!!!

what are we talking about

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>>11215726
but what I am saying is this, india wine is severely underrated desu, do you not speak english??

>> No.11215884

>>11215867
Almost all of Napa production in 2000 was mixed years grapes.
Consequence of the weather I guess.

>> No.11215887

>>11215839
Ridge is very good wine but if you like California wines in general you will probably not like Ridge at all. Same goes for Montelena. A far cry from the boozy aggressive pleb juice that most people who like CA wines like about CA wines

Have you tried it? Aside from pro opinions, what did *you* think?

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>>11215880
FIne. I'll have to try some, and see for myself.

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>>11215887

I mostly just drink Barefoot.

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>>11211913
>And now the TRUE patrician list
Unbelievable, someone with a reasonable opinion. It sounds just about right, good job noticing how much better Hungarian wine is compared to Austrian.
Italian wines are my favorite.

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>>11215889
why see for self ? you not belief me. I am saying to you that india wine is amply good that is why I am saying india wine is so much underrated desu

>> No.11216020 [DELETED] 

>>11215988
You're not funny, and your rp character is shit.

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>>11216020
your sisters dick
fatherless homosexual

>> No.11216047

>>11214393
Yes, I didn't write the full name because I assumed people who knew a bit about wine would make the connection between Chateauneuf and Chateauneuf du Pape

>> No.11216049 [DELETED] 

>>11216033
>still trying
Hey you retarded chucklefuck. Your posts are not funny. Please just stop anon, because you are just bad at it.
There's no humour in them.

>> No.11216053 [DELETED] 

>>11215988
>>11216033
I know that you really want to le troll me, but come on anon. Try a little harder.

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>>11216049
com here and I will show you who is the funny guy

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>>11211453
Just get some proper god tier Portuguese wine.

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>>11216063
I'm just going to go... Good luck with your "comedy" anon. You'll probably make it big any day now.

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>>11216072
sirs r yo u scare of me?

>> No.11216132

A good wine is one you love. Everything else is completely false.

>> No.11216165 [DELETED] 

U WOT M8

>> No.11216187 [DELETED] 

>>11216077
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

WHAT DID YOU DO!!!!!!!!!!!!1

>> No.11216223

>>11211740
>wales
>countrt

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for me it's this wine

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>>11216225
I'd probably have brought a red for something like that simply because it doesn't have to be kept chilled.
I'm guessing that's a 2-dollar bottle anyway, though. All these modern wine hipsters don't actually drink good wine. Not that good wine has to be overly expensive, mind.

>> No.11216984

>>11216232
>Lindeman's
So I assume this guy is a republican and wants to punish himself in that event?

>> No.11217151

>>11215792
>Chilean wine is underrated
Having shit taste. Probably just chilean, maybe.

>> No.11217183

Honest question.
Can anyone here actually distinguish good wine from bad wine?

>> No.11217193

>>11217183
No. It's a conspiracy to make you feel uncultured. Now go back to arguing over your youtube waifus.

>> No.11217203

>>11216232
>moscato

why would a 14 year old girl care about the president?

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>>11217203
Too old, right?

>> No.11217223

>>11217193
>It's a conspiracy to make you feel uncultured.
Well it's not working, because it just makes most people just seem like jackasses arguing over which grapejuice has better tasting sulfur.

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>>11215444
I've had wines made by Japanese people, but not from Japanese fruit. I liked it a lot, he lives in France.

Where do you get wine from Japan, other than in Japan?

>> No.11217237

>>11217223
Seems to have worked on you, look how mad you got.

>> No.11217252

>>11217233
>Japanese wine
>he lives in France.
Was he part of that winemaking couple who almost got deported from france recently?
>>11217237
Stop being gay.

>> No.11217268

>>11211453
Bordeaux is better than any of those, even a cheap bottle


also this >>11211521
shitty acidic CA wine sucks man and it's so overpriced

>>11215927
nice milkers tbhfamfag

>> No.11217269

>>11217233
>Where do you get wine from Japan, other than in Japan?
Personally I don't get an wine, but I've been to a few wine tastings in my town.

>> No.11217273

>>11211453
I tasted your wine, whore. Now give me the milk

>> No.11217285

>>11217252
>Was he part of that winemaking couple who almost got deported from france recently?
No, Hirotake Ooka has something of a name in the non-interventionist wine cliques. He bought a bunch of land that he thought would be good for wine, and made a bunch of wine by his own rules. And it's good. And people recognize him for that.

The person you're talking about (the name escapes me) was basically anonymous until the islamophobe movement turned him into some kind of weird pet. I feel bad for him, he just wanted to make wine, and they got sucked into some bizarre political squabble. So now he will go down in history as "oh yeah that Japanese dude who the Ordre Nouveau is using as a pet", as opposed to for wine or something nice like that.

>Stop being gay.
No U

>> No.11217314

>>11217285
>The person you're talking about (the name escapes me) was basically anonymous until the islamophobe movement turned him into some kind of weird pet.
Woah. I think we might be thinking of different people. I'm referring to the japanese winemaking couple in France who almost got deported, because they didn't make enough money, but a shitload of french people vouched for them, and they got to stay.
>made a bunch of wine by his own rules. And it's good.
I think the Japanese in general try to shy away from additives, so this could be why their wines
get attention. Just a guess though.
>No U
I refuse. Now bend over babby.

>> No.11217333

>>11217314
Yeah, they made the rounds on the meme circuits, they’re an islamophobe mascot now. “Why are the savages allowed and the anime people are deported”, etc. Best not to look unless you like to feel dirty.

And non interventionist wine is a big thing in France, not just for Japanese folk

>> No.11217338

>>11211477
I would love to taste those titties

>> No.11217346

>>11217333
>And non interventionist wine is a big thing in France
So they claim. I wouldn't be surprised if the French are putting little drops of antifreeze in their all natural wines whenever possible though.

>> No.11217360

>>11217346
It’s not a well regulated concept, so there’s room for abuse.

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How cheap can you go with wine and have it still be decent (assuming 750 mL)? 10$? 8$?

>> No.11219204

>>11219194
Depends on your definition of "decent". It's subjective.

For my taste & area I can find whites I enjoy for just under $10, for reds I need to spend a little more, like $12-14 or so.

>> No.11219238

>>11215927
>those veins
Delicious

>> No.11219299

>>11215745
malbec is a sorority girl meme from an effective ad campaign in the early nineties you dumbshit

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>>11211453
Beer is better and any bottle of wine over $20 is a waste of money/ Now post more of those big titted women please and thank you.

>> No.11219350

>>11211453
Ever tried Bulgarian?

Sangria, if you like sweet. Kadarka if you like more dry.

>> No.11219373

>>11215444
>Japanese wine is world class
Kek.
Get out, weeab.

>> No.11219394

>>11214791
You realize that Alsace is bordering Saarland which is in Germany? Both regions share the same climate and soils. The only difference are the names of the wines, e.g. Pinot Noir is the french word for german Spätburgunder but it's basically the same wine from the same region. Normies just love french wines so they can impress their normie friends with those fancy french wine names.

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>>11219194
I like several of the $5 Trader Joe's wines.

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>>11219350
>Sangria
Based

>> No.11220317

>>11217285
>islamophobe movement
Are these people with an irrational fear of getting ran over by a truck, or journalists with an irrational fear of getting blown up in their workplace?
>>11219194
>How cheap can you go with wine and have it still be decent (assuming 750 mL)? 10$? 8$?
Really depends on the brand. Charles Shaw was about $2-3, and has been considered very good for it's price. Trader Joe's has some $5-10 wine that's palatable.
>>11219373
Japanese wine is surprisingly good, but it's not like you have the taste buds, or culture to even appreciate any wine you fucking peasant.

>> No.11220343

What is the best wine I can buy at Trader Joe's?

>> No.11220595

>>11220343
Best wine or best value? Red or white? Domestic or import?
If you like value Italian reds, I recommend the ones in this pic >>11220114

>> No.11220752

Wine is not supposed to be good. It is supposed to be cheap and get you drunk.

>> No.11221006

>>11220752
So are many low-class turned high-class things but here we are.

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>>11215887
I have

shit's good, but it's also ~150 dollars a bottle, even with my industry+club discount
they consistently keep the alcohol around 13.5, which means the wine isn't battling between being hot and fruity vs earthy and savory

I usually decant for 3-4 hours before drinking, it's way better than opus one or any other big-dick napa cab fwiw

their zinfandels are also some of the best I've ever had, and only about 30 bucks a bottle

>> No.11221069

>>11221055
>their zinfandels are also some of the best I've ever had, and only about 30 bucks a bottle
Now that sounds like something worthwhile for my budget. It's very famous winery right? So they might have some of the zins at my local wine guy.

>> No.11221077

>>11221069
ehhh, maybe

some of their zins are like 10-15 barrels produced and club-member only, but if you live near a small boutique store I bet you could get a few of the higher-production ones like Pagani Ranch or Lytton Springs

if you work in the wine industry, you can join their zinfandel club and get 30% off instead of 15. ~150 dollars for 6 bottles 3 times a year

>> No.11221138

>>11219394
Also because French wine is the best overall, but I enjoy Spatburgunder too when it’s available
>>11220317
Maybe a little of both, I’ve seen thousands killed by terrorists in person, as opposed to YouTube like most people, and I call it like I see it. If it infects your life to the point of screeching about scary muslims all day you are an Islamophobe. I’m afraid of cagers and having my economy destroyed by xenophobia, not getting blown up by an incel redpiller who found Isis Online before Jordan Peterson got to him. Also food and cooking
>>11221055
Ridge zins are great, it’s a shame Lodi ruined the grape’s reputation

>> No.11221172

>>11221138
>If it infects your life to the point of screeching about scary muslims all day you are an Islamophobe. I’m afraid of cagers and having my economy destroyed by xenophobia, not getting blown up by an incel redpiller who found Isis Online before Jordan Peterson got to him.
Incredible, one of the most reasonable opinions I've ever read on 4chan.

>> No.11221419

>>11215500
>nothing less than $20
>posts an entry level cubillo
ami me encanta este crianza pero donde escondiste la tondonia güey

>> No.11221446

>>11221138
You seem more like a rationalaphobe to be honest. It's okay to be weary of the things that poses a threat to your well being anon without having to stick your head in the sand, or apologize for other people who attack people.
>incel
I don't even know what this means.
>>11220752
>Wine is not supposed to be good. It is supposed to be cheap and get you drunk.
You might be thinking of moonshine. Wine should at least be palatable.

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Anon's opinion on pic related.
>Delas Freres Côtes du Ventoux

>>11221172
Incredible a waste of a post. You're that one mentally ill tranny aren't you anon?

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>>11221419
Correct, that's a 30 dollar rioja in the states

high end spanish wines don't do it for me, too much american oak 99% of the time
here are some dick-wavers for you

>> No.11221493

>>11221461
I've had a few ventoux before but not that particular one

in my experience, lots of red fruit and moderate amounts of earth, good table wines if you like more tannin

>> No.11221507

>>11221493
>in my experience, lots of red fruit and moderate amounts of earth, good table wines if you like more tannin
Thanks. Thinking of ordering for a barbeque next weekend.

>> No.11221525

>>11214791
>California
>stagnant
A million little wineries doesn't make a place stagnant, it makes quality dilute.

>> No.11221544

I have absolutely no memory of how I received it, or the name, but a wine that was quite possibly the best burgundy type wine that I've ever had in my entire 30+ year life was a 10 year old wine from Ohio.
Really surprised me at the time.

Pisses me off I can't remember the name of the vineyard.

>> No.11221549

>>11219305
word on that

>> No.11221596

Americans talk shit about Australian wine but they are also the biggest importer of Yellowtail.

>> No.11221606

>>11221596
>make almost all your massive reds twist-offs so they don't soften over time

sparkling shiraz is neat, and they do some kickass ports, but they also produce about as much bullshit bulk wine as california

>also the biggest importer of Yellowtail
I'm 70% sure americans drink the most of everything from everywhere when it comes to wine

>> No.11221609

>>11221596
>the biggest importer of Yellowtail

because on sale it's $7 a bottle and white college girls think it's better because it's "imported".

>> No.11221755

>>11221461
No I'm not, and anyway
>one

>> No.11221791

>>11211453
padded bra lift support cleavage makers it's all a lie bros ITS ALL A FUCKING LIE
DON'T BUZZ BUZZ INTO THAT FLY TRAP

>> No.11222105

>>11221791
It exaggerates the size of her breasts, but they're still fucking huge either way.

>> No.11222817

>>11221446
>huh? don't you live in constant fear of shark attacks? why do you make apologies for sharks?
Good job cletus, you literally let them win and you didn't even need to witness a single attack in West Jeebusville.

>>11221461
Ventoux wine a shit, sorry. Good luck with your confused sexuality.

>>11221475
I've become more oakophobic in my old age, but with enough grape tannins (and age) you remember why it became a thing in the first place. Just keep it away from the pinot noir please.

>>11221544
I've had some Ohio wines. Fun novelty but way too expensive (40USD Malvasia).

>> No.11222835

>>11222817
It's okay anon. The way to stop the islamic hate attacks is to let them kill you.
>Ventoux wine a shit, sorry. Good luck with your confused sexuality.
It's not bad though, and just because you cut off your dick, and changed your name doesn't really make you a woman tranny-anon.
>>11221596
>Yellowtail
I'm not a fan of this. Not even at it's price point.

>> No.11222860 [DELETED] 

>>11222835
Nah, obviously the way to stop the shark attacks is to poison the entire ocean including all fish, and also never go outside (you can never be too careful). I have never been near the ocean so it doesn't affect me in any conceivable way, but you should listen to my advice anyway because I use "tough" vocabulary and know a lot of facebook memes. If you support fact based policy over emotionally driven hysteria it means you're soft and weak. My ample gut says sharks are the biggest threat to my safety and that's good enough for me.

Also, imagine being so preoccupied with transgender people that you try and derail wine threads over it.

>> No.11223143 [DELETED] 

>>11222860
You're dealing with vicious people anon. These are different from sharks, and your analogy doesn't even make sense. It's like you know that a shark can be dangerous, but instead of acknowledging how dangerous a shark is you are suggesting a person who has shark concerns to live in an aquarium filled with sharks even if the person doesn't want to be around dangerous sharks in the first place.
Hurr your a sharkaphobe if you don't like to be eaten by a shark who wants to eat you anon.
Le upvote meh now world for my super understanding and progressive comment towards dangerous sharks pls.
>Also, imagine being so preoccupied with transgender people that you try and derail wine threads over it.
Your the one who is off topic anon.
>Also, imagine being so preoccupied with transgender people that you try and derail wine threads over it.
Imagine being so mentally ill that you need to surgically switch your gender.
>>11222835
>I'm not a fan of this. Not even at it's price point.
There's definately better shitty wines at that price point. Especially at Trader Joe's.

>> No.11223201 [DELETED] 

>>11223143
You started this, remember? Or were you so drunk you forgot again?
If you drink hard enough maybe those funny urges will stop, anon-kun ;-)

>> No.11223212 [DELETED] 

>>11223201
Umu. Social justice anon started this. Must be a mod though, because her bullshit has been left untouched.

>> No.11223638

What’s the best wine under $20?

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thread derailed, thanks /pol/

>> No.11225239

>>11211730
Côtes du Rhône are the most entry level red wines imaginable. Completely lacking in flavour and body, but inoffensive enough.