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A Canadian politician is being mocked for suggesting that a family can eat for $75/week. Does this sound reasonable to you? (

>$75CAD =~$58USD

>> No.11244875 [DELETED] 

>>11244867
Easily doable if it's a family of 3.

>> No.11244878
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>>11244867

i live near washington dc so, no.

>> No.11244880

>>11244867
i am a single adult male living alone
my weekly budget for food is 100bux

>> No.11244882

>>11244878
Would it strike you as a decent nationwide average, maybe?

>> No.11244883

>>11244867
>58 USD a week
>174 USD a month
I've got a wife and three kids and our monthly grocery bill is around 200 USD. If someone had 174 month for groceries + food stamps it's entirely doable.

>> No.11244885

>>11244867
No. A single person could if they're smart.

>> No.11244886

>>11244867
i live off of 10 dollars a week so yeah

>> No.11244887

>>11244883
How malnourished are your kids?

>> No.11244889

>>11244885
Do you just waltz through stores and ignore sale items?

>> No.11244890

thats only like 8 or 9 avocado toasts so no.

>> No.11244891

as a politician he should strive to be able to let the average family budget more for the most important necessity

>> No.11244894

I think this would heavily depend on location. I read about this story earlier, and while I think $58 USD in a typical American state is easily done for a family of 3, I've also read comments from Canadians that food in Canada is a bit more expensive, especially in the more rural areas (even after taking the exchange rate into consideration) so $75 CAD in Canada might not be as easy.

>> No.11244895

>>11244891
Average maybe, but for a bottom tier of society surviving on this allowance would be doable, yes?

>> No.11244900

>>11244889
Yes. I'm not smart.

>> No.11244901
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>>11244867
how much is 1 kg of chicken in the U.S
i can get one whole chicken for 2 dollars, one kilogram of breast for 5.20 and one whole rotiserrie chicken for 4 dollars
admittedly i live in a 3rd world cuntry but not a total shithole like India or Haiti

>> No.11244903

>>11244867
Why does nobody realize that you can get fucking truckloads of rice/beans/the like for pennies.

How do people starve?

>> No.11244906

>>11244883
The food stamp system is an American invention, and does not exist in Canada. The Canadian government just gives people cash they can spend on whatever they want. This is probably the $75CAD he's referring to, so it would not be that plus food stamps.

>> No.11244909

>>11244903
Because nobody wants to eat rice and beans every single day?

>> No.11244910

>>11244903
because grains and legumes is disgusting!1!!

>> No.11244914

>>11244903
Poor people are stupid. That's why they're poor.

>> No.11244918

>>11244909
>want
>mattering on the verge of starvation
True. If you people had any capability of understanding the difference between want and need you wouldn't be poor and this wouldn't be a problem.

Such a vicious cycle.

>> No.11244921

If you know how to cook for yourself you can get a pound of shitty meat for ~$10 and like pounds upon pounds of veggies for barely $20.

Hell for like $3 I can make you 3lbs of fries.

There is shitty jars of tomato sauce/alfredo for $1-2

Can you make a quality meal for $58 a week? probably not, but you can make a lot of edible food for $58 a week unless you have like 5 kids

>> No.11244924

>>11244909
You can get a dozen bell peppers for like $7
Garlic, ginger and onions are dirt cheap
You can get easily 2 days worth of pork chops/shoulder for like $10, and a couple whole chickens for $20, how is this not enough on top of the starch to do fine for a week for 4?

>> No.11244925

>>11244867
I feed myself and my three roommates for about that amount. Maybe a bit less. However, I do live in Sioux Falls, SD, and food is absurdly cheap out here. I also take the time to plan meals out in advance, and that helps.

>> No.11244928 [DELETED] 

>>11244903
not to mention carrots onions and potatoes are dirt cheap...

>> No.11244931

>>11244924
Nobody eats any of that for breakfast

>> No.11244932

>>11244928
Honestly people overblow the rice/beans meme but for real potatoes and carrots and onions are the real hearty cheap shit

>> No.11244933

>>11244931
>nobody eats chicken and rice for breakfast
>reee i need my bacon and eggs (also pretty damn cheap btw)

This is a you problem. Billions exist on this diet fine.

>> No.11244934

>>11244925
Most people of low stock aren't clever like you.

>> No.11244935

>>11244867
The problem with the minimum wage is that people think its meant to support more than a single person. If you live off chicken, rice, and beans you have a little bit of cash left over to account for other things, which is how it should be. People think that raising the minimum wage would help these people when in reality it's gonna fuck everyone over due to everything going up in price.

>> No.11244937

>>11244931
You don't have to eat "breakfasty" foods just to have a meal in the morning, retard.
Or just eat oatmeal. Shit's cheap as fuck.

>> No.11244939

>>11244934
So instead of educating people on how to make their dollar go further we should just dump more money into them? Let me guess, you're a lefty?

>> No.11244942

Wait, canadians expect their government to pay 100% of someones food bill? hahah fucking retards. It's the help the person not to completely support them you fucking fools.

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>>11244924
>You can get a dozen bell peppers for like $7
LOL fuck off m8

Leaf here, see pic related for the price of bell peppers in my locale. You might be able to get a dozen bell peppers for $7 in California or whatever, but a dozen bell peppers would run you about $36 in my neck of the woods

>> No.11244945

It's 100% doable. It'd be pretty fucking bland but it's definitely doable. You better fucking like Rice though.

>> No.11244946

>>11244943
If you went to a modicum of effort you could find another source of produce

>I'll give you a hint: the best place won't sell fucking vegetables online

>> No.11244949

>>11244945
I don't get why it would have to be bland at all. So many of the strongest spices/herbs are cheap as fuck
>garlic
>ginger
>curry paste
>onion
>citrus fruits
>chilis
>fucking salt

>> No.11244951

>>11244949

I should have said repetitive.

>> No.11244953

>>11244939
No. We let them exist in misery until the strongest ones integrate into proper society. They recieve too much government assistance and it's made them weak and complacent.

>> No.11244954

>>11244931

EGGS AND PANCAKES ONLY REEEEEEE


fuck off

>> No.11244958

>>11244943
get the green ones you dumb leaf.

>> No.11244961

You expect the proles to work a shit job with no prospects, earn shit pay, deal with all their poorfag drama and on top of all that eat rice and chicken assholes 3 meals a day? Get real

>> No.11244967

>>11244954
>>11244931

Pancakes are also unironically very cheap to make. Eggs is probably the most expensive part and even that isn't THAT expensive.

>> No.11244968

>>11244951
I really don't see what having some extra dosh would toss into the mix. I spend so little monthly and alternate between korean pork with gochujang and thai green curry and pasta with meatsauce for like $20/wk solo. Stirfrys are infinitely finetunable too. And then when shit gets lame just go for bacon and eggs for a couple meals. It's just a week how much variety do you need?

>> No.11244969

>>11244946
Hey retard, this is the website of the local affiliate of the largest grocery store chain in the country (Loblaws). It's basically their online flyer.

You can't really get bell peppers in farmer's markets here for the most part because it's too cold in these parts, so you've got to either import or grow in greenhouses, which either way makes bell peppers so expensive most Leafs barely use them.

>> No.11244975

>>11244969
Do you live in a major canadian city perchance? Have you heard of No Frills? Or Little asian fruit markets? Or god forbid fuckign buying vegetables with the seasons/sales? So you don't get bell peppers this week, maybe it;s eggplant. Isn't the variety good?

>> No.11244983

>>11244969
Is Canada the new Ethiopia?

>> No.11244991

>>11244901
1kg of breast would be anywhere from $5-$12 depending on where you shop and the brand you're buying. A whole chicken is around $6 and rotisserie chickens for $5.

7 chickens would be around $42, and if they spent the rest of that on potatoes they'd get about 20 lbs. There's about 15k calories from the chickens and 7k from the potatoes. 22k calories only averages out to about 3.1k calories per day, and that's not even enough for two people. They could probably get more calories by eating more potatoes and maybe getting cheap vegetable oil instead of one of the chickens, but a family would definitely be struggling to stay healthy and fed properly on $58/week.

For 3 people I spend around $60/week, and that's with doing a lot of my own cooking and minimizing "luxury" purchases like premade foods, meat, etc. $58/week isn't really enough for an average family of four.

>> No.11244992

>>11244969
I buy 2 fat juicy green bells at my local korean grocer for no more than $2.50 all the time

>> No.11244994

>>11244949
When you're struggling to meet your calorie needs in a healthy way, you aren't going to be spending money on curry paste and ginger.

>> No.11244995

>>11244991
>chicken is the only meat
kys palatepleb

>> No.11245002

>>11244994
You can buy like a years worth of curry paste for $5

A fat root of ginger lasts like 2 months and costs about the same

>> No.11245005

>>11244995
Where did I say anything like that?

>> No.11245008

>>11245005
You use the most expensive cut of meat besides sirloin so your point fails

>> No.11245014

>>11245008
>a whole chicken is the most expensive cut of meat besides sirloin
What the fuck are you talking about. My calculations used whole chickens. The only thing involving chicken breast was my response ot that other poster asking how much it costs in the USA. The calculations after that for how many calories you'd get in a week involved whole chickens, not the breast.

>> No.11245015

>>11245014
Yes, besides breast.
>what are thighs

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I feed myself for less than $30 a month without really trying and eat like a king.
If I decide to splurge on chocolate or something it can go beyond that, but if you're spending more than $50 a month on food you're a lardass and/or retarded.
Go vegan and buy staples in bulk.
Food is fucking cheap guys - Shit like this is why I never come to /ck/.

>> No.11245018

>>11245015
Thighs are too "chickeny" tasting.

>> No.11245020

>>11245015
>>11245014
or fucking porkchops for that matter. Regularly see them here in Toronto for like 12/$8

>> No.11245024

>>11245017
>eat like a king
>vegan
b8

>> No.11245026

>>11244975
>Do you live in a major canadian city perchance?
No, I live in a minor city.

>Have you heard of No Frills?
There is no local No Frills store.

>Or Little asian fruit markets?
My city is also not 'diverse' enough to host expat communities large enough to support specialized stores.

>Or god forbid fuckign buying vegetables with the seasons/sales? So you don't get bell peppers this week, maybe it;s eggplant. Isn't the variety good?
This is what I do, but it's not an option for a lot of local people. Access to high quality local fare is a bit limited, reminiscent of the concept of a food desert, but as only applied to local veg, grass-fed beef, etc. There are a few places where you can get this kind of stuff, and it's not near where poor people live. I'm doing okay financially so I can afford to live in range of the nice food store (and also afford their goods), but a lot of people in my city have no choice but to shop at places like Loblaws and face prices like the bell pepper pic above.

>> No.11245029

>>11245026
So move to the city then u fucking dork

>> No.11245036

>>11245026
Even loblaws you can get meat and veg stickered 50% off if you are smart

>waaah I'm too important to eat meat that isn't bright red

>> No.11245037

>>11245017
>go vegan
Consider a bullet

>> No.11245040

>>11244943
>organic
>one store
can you either stop baiting or stop being retarded

>> No.11245045

Have you faggots tried just making more money? Lmao

>> No.11245046

>>11245024
>>11245037
you fatties just mad about ur heart disease and colon cancer

>> No.11245048

>>11244867
>6 pounds of chicken thighs for $12
>5.5 pounds of frozen vegetables - $8
>5 dozen eggs - $8
>40 pounds of rice - $30
Feeds me for about two weeks and the rice lasts at least a year

>> No.11245052

>>11245040
Nice reading comprehension, faggot. The 2-pack on the left is organic but the other two are non-organic. There's not very much competition in the grocery market anyway, at least in my province. Basically dominated by two major corporate players with a few mom-and-pop stores here and there.

>> No.11245054

>>11245029
>So move to Toronto where you can spend $3000/mo on rent for a studio apartment and live inside the tower of babel
No thanks

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>>11245048
grim...
my condolences

>> No.11245065

>>11245048
You eat 60 eggs in two weeks...?

>> No.11245069

>>11245065
4 eggs every morning

>>11245060
When I go back to trying to gain weight again, I'll eat whatever I want pretty much

>> No.11245075

>>11244903
Rice is 25$ a bag here, im in Canada btw. The bags are like 8 pounds or so

>> No.11245079

>>11245048
That totals around 76k calories. 5.5k calories per day, still not enough for a family of four. And that's with them eating 40 pounds of rice in two weeks.

>> No.11245082

>>11245015

right below the ass which you can have more fun with than tits

>> No.11245084

>>11245079
Throw in some beans and eat less chicken

>> No.11245093

It's doable. No eating out, no processed/prepared foods, no unnecessaries. Buying/cooking in bulk, only fresh produce, white meat and meat alternative proteins, etc. Ironically one of the healthier ways to eat is also the cheapest

>> No.11245099

>>11245084
>mom why are we having beans for breakfast again?
>daddy voted for trump and this is all we can afford, sweetie

>> No.11245103

>>11245099
>implying oatmeal and eggs are expensive

>> No.11245106

>>11245093
It is but people will argue against it because it won't taste amazing or be easy

>> No.11245112

Depends but seems highly unlikely.

I can live in about 30 bucks just buying cheap ass premade shit like cereal some tv dinners some spaghetios some rice etc. A whole family for 78 tho seems pretty rough. Youd need some one who can cook and use fresh ingredients and basically save by getting cheap ass meat and veggies

For a forever alone bachelor like me 78 a week aint shit

>> No.11245115

>>11245084
It's doable if you want to start cutting corners that much but it's probably going to start causing issues like just not feeling well in general by not eating properly, too many carbs, not enough fresh fruits and vegetables, etc. Your calorie needs might be met, but that's also assuming people in the family aren't physically active and have minimal requirements. $58/week is starting to push it into an area where you're going to have issues. You won't die of course, but you're going to feel the struggle. A politician saying it's acceptable for you to feel a struggle and be okay with that isn't really reassuring.

>> No.11245117

>>11245106
If you can't make cooking taste amazing, you need to learn how to cook. The intro bar will be higher because you'll have to buy things like seasonings that will offset the first week, but over the long run it will still work out

And yeah, cooking isn't easy, it's why poor people stay poor. They just buy microwavable shit and wonder why they're poor and unhealthy

>> No.11245127

>>11245117
By won't taste amazing, I meant that things can get repetitive and buying seasonings add to your costs so you can be a little hindered in what you can do

>> No.11245128

>>11245115
I don't know where you live but there's regularly fruit available on sale at the grocery store for 99cents/pound (or less). Bananas are regularly 50cents/pound but those are about half skin. Frozen vegetables are actually more expensive than fresh vegetables. You can get a ridiculous amount of fresh vegetables and be so far below your budget if you're used to eating Lean Cuisines regularly, and you think you're healthier for it, it's laughable.

>> No.11245133

>>11245127
A few seasoning jars might cost $5 each but they'll last a good month or longer depending. Buying fresh foods, especially whatever's on sale, is really the key. Beef is expensive and almost never on sale so yeah there would have to be cut backs on a budget, but that's not to say you'd have to cut out meat entirely, just expensive meats

>> No.11245134

>>11245117
>>11245127
Food feeling repetitive means you aren't meeting your nutritional needs. Craving other foods is your body's way of telling you to get the vitamins and minerals found in those other products. If you're taking care of yourself nutritionally, you shouldn't really have extreme cravings for anything beyond "what do I feel like having today?"

>> No.11245137

>>11245128
Fruits and vegetables are still higher in cost per calorie, and trying to get enough calories on $58/week is already an issue. If you can't even get enough protein and healthy fats you probably aren't going to be wanting bananas which will drop the calorie count compared to other things you could buy.

>> No.11245147

>>11245134
Yeah that's true. Some people ask how I can eat the same things so often and asking how I don't get sick of always eating it, but it tastes good and I never have strong cravings.

However, I know that if I was mainly eating rice and beans like all these people are suggesting, I'd get strong cravings for dairy, eggs, meat, salads, etc. and not feel as well as I could. I might be getting enough calories but I definitely wouldn't be feeling well either.

>> No.11245170

>>11244867
I already make my wife and kids mostly eat plain white rice and vienna sausages whilst I dine on steaks, ribs, fried chicken, fresh gourmet seafood and premium craft beer. Kids are like dogs, if you only give them kibble everyday instead of real food they won't know any difference because they can't compare it to anything else. We could easily live off of $58 a week for food and I'd still be eating like a king.

>> No.11245177

>>11245137
>Fruits and vegetables are still higher in cost per calorie
Than grains? Sure. But for the sake of argument, you could buy 116 pounds of bananas which is 47000 calories. If we're talking about a family of four (2 adults, 2 children), that's almost there already, and it's without any grains at all

Obviously you wouldn't feed a family on just rice, other staple carbs include oats, potatoes, pasta, all extremely cheap, and all that satisfy your calorie needs assuming your nutritional needs are also being met

It's not going to be easy, you're going to have to shop for raw, fresh food, look for sales, give up expensive foods like beef and ALL prepared/processed/frozen food. But claiming someone who does this won't be healthy is fucking absurd. They'll be healthier than any of us because they're eating fresh food + their calories needs in carbs

I lived on snap for 2 years, it's more than possible, you just have to give up a lot of convenience of buying something you can pop in the microwave that's going to make you fat, not healthy.

>> No.11245186

>>11245170
I hope you don't let them eat at the table with you.

>> No.11245196

>>11244867

I'm sure a family could eat on far less than even that if they budgeted appropriately and planned accordingly. And eat well even.

'Poor' people suffer under delusions of what they should be eating due to abysmal social conditioning and a poverty in food culture. A dash of arrogance and entitlement also contribute.

>7 limes

>> No.11245200

>>11245170
>$58 a week for food and I’d still be eating like a king
The king of ethiopia maybe

>> No.11245202

>>11244909

Suck it up and stop acting like a princess then. If you're hunger if due to your own arrogant attitude of 'being better' than that then what sympathy can we show them?

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>>11244867
hop over to dollar tree and pick up 58 of these babies.
You'd still have $29 left over for some supplemental gummy bears to balance out the nutrition.

>> No.11245218

Is there anything nutritious you can get out of fruit that you can't get out of vegetables for cheaper?

>> No.11245221

>>11244867
It's not easy, but I think something around that number is doable. You have to learn to be efficient with protein, to avoid false economies, and to forgo paying extra for convenience.

It helps if you (or your spouse) can do your own baking (home-made bread can be considerably cheaper than store-bought, especially if you buy your flour in 25 or 50 lb. bags; home-made cookies and cakes even more so), and grow at least some of your own vegetables.

>> No.11245233

maybe 58 a week per two people. ~$4 a day in food?

>> No.11245250

>>11245218
Maybe not in the strict nutritive sense (though maybe certain antioxidants). But fruit is a relatively cheap source of sugar, and sugar serves an additional purpose beyond its caloric value: eating something sweet at the end of a meal tends to trigger satiety without having to stuff yourself.

>> No.11245258

>>11244901
2.2lbs of chicken @ 3.99/lb = $8.80, and that at the lower end and bulk packages, so you can't buy just 1kg. $12 is a pretty standard price for chicken breasts, thighs are only slightly cheaper, but come in smaller sized packages. chicken is definitely the cheapest meat here, followed by ground beef. normal non ground beef is like 8-10/lb.

>> No.11245260

>>11245186
Fuck no. They eat in their living room. I sold 3 out of 4 of our dining room chairs to discourage them from ever even trying.
>>11245200
$58 minus $8 for their rice and vienna sausages leaves me $7.14 a day. I could easily cook a gourmet meal for myself for $7.14 a day.

>> No.11245261

When I was in college I ate $10 a week not counting a massive bag of rice I had to buy every once in a while
It is completely possible although not the most fun

>> No.11245291

>>11245218
No. Look at pictures of long term fruitarians. They look haggard and used.

>> No.11245300

>>11244867
Yeah, nothing like malnourishing your kids in their formative years. It definitely doesn't cause generational poverty.

>> No.11245310

>>11244867
A family? Maybe not.
I can get by just fine solo on that, though. This even assuming I have to buy spices.

But it seems pushing it for a family of four.
>>11244883
>I can do it easy with welfare also
Fuck off lol

>> No.11245313

>>11245258
Dude what chicken thighs are like $1.09/lb and you can sometimes catch them on sale sub-$1

>> No.11245316

>>11245258
Bulk packages of parts are a false economy (the only real exception is if you're making Buffalo wings, but you don't make those on a tight budget). It's considerably cheaper to buy a whole bird and part it out. When you do that, you also have a carcass left for stock.

>> No.11245341

>>11244867
If that is just for food then yes, a few changes to my meals and I could do that for a family of 4. Meals would be a little less interesting probably, more staples in every meal and less variety as we use in-season stuff day after day.

There'd be big boxes of tomatoes or whatever is cheap and me trying to find ways to make them interesting in five different dinners with rice, beans, whatever.

>> No.11245347

>>11245300
Considering, most impoverish families just eat fast food. I'll take my chances with rice and beans

>> No.11245357

>>11245300
Read the thread: it's actually cheaper to feed your kids real food, if you know how to do it. Processed garbage is more expensive than real food because you're paying for convenience. The generationally poor people I know are that way partly because they eat garbage, and they eat it mostly because it's convenient and SEEMS cheap enough (it's really full of false economies, but they don't recognize that), and most of them don't really know how to cook real food or have the palate to appreciate it (they're so spoiled by burgers, chicken nuggets, and hot dogs, that they turn up their noses at liver and onions or a good beef stew).

>> No.11245360

He is a retard and, God willing, will lose the election.

>> No.11245366

>>11244867
It's possible for two but I wouldn't want to see growing kids live on the kind of diet you'd have to stick to to make it possible for a family.

>> No.11245375

>>11244909
I want you to starve to death

>> No.11245383

I want to watch many of the redditors in this thread to die of starvation.

>> No.11245386

>>11245366
It's partly a question of the age of the kids. Teenagers, especially boys, are going to need a lot more food than a toddler (a baby on formula and canned baby food is expensive, but formula is evil and canned baby food is for suckers).

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>>11245375
>neckbeard mcchicken incels who have at least three wrappers of prepackaged highly-processed snack foods around them at all times cant understand the experience of eating the same legumes and grains every day

pure

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My wife and I spend about 100 a week for food for the both of us, keeping in mind we live in a high cost of living city and everything is too goddamn expensive here.

Example, chicken thighs are ten dollars a kg here.

https://shop.coles.com.au/a/a-nsw-metro-rouse-hill/everything/search/chicken%20thighs?pageNumber=1

>> No.11245452

Anyone can SURVIVE of that, and you could survive of significantly lower amounts as well, but the question is never if you can survive it, but rather, how much of your living standard you are willing to sacrifice for it, so while you won't die of starvation on 50$ a month, the challenge will be to be able to enjoy life on such a strict budget, and you might experience side effects on not consuming enough calories like a drop in energy, but you will not die, I highly doubt humans had a daily caloric in-take of over 4k before the industrialization age. Same with saving money 90% of people can do it, the question is how much you are willing to sacriifce to do so

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>>11245450
them thighs THICC

>> No.11245533

>>11244887
Lmao

>> No.11245536

>>11245386
Teenage boys will need more than your average man.

>>11245452
You can survive on ridiculously bad diets, both with and without sufficient calories, the issue is malnutrition leading to permanent side effects.

>> No.11245560

Hope you like ice cube soup and toast sandwiches

>> No.11245591

>>11245560
What is ice cream soup?

>> No.11245697

>>11244909
Why do people want to eat meat twice a day? I eat good quality meat from my butcher but only 3 times a week. Stop being gluttons.

>> No.11245708

instead of throwing more money into the poor me pit the government should write down in large text how to feed your family on 75$ a week and handing it out with vouchers. so many of the problems could be solved if the government educated people on how to live instead of teaching kids about residential schools and slavery.

>> No.11245766
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I live in Denmark and I could feed two adults and two kids on that money, yeah.
If money were THAT tight I might encourage the kids to get jobs themselves, though. Doesn't have to be much to make a difference after all and a 13-year-old can easily make 10-20 bucks a week mowing a few laws or raking leaves.
This is assuming the adults are already working all day themselves of course. Otherwise they can get off their asses and earn some more money.
Maybe there's an old lady in the house next door who'll pay you a few bucks to vacuum her house or something. Don't rely on the State to feed you, fucking commies.

>> No.11245773

>>11244867
that's 50 Euro. more or less impossible in the more expensive parts of Yurop. but maybe it'd be doable in Bulgaria.

>> No.11245783

>>11245766
>I'll just noodge my neikghbours for cash instead of begging
yeah, that's more dignified

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>>11245708
The only way to put a stop to this out-of-control spending is if governments can't borrow anymore. How does that happen? The government needs to go bankrupt and trash its credit rating. Therefore, paradoxically, if you want real austerity you should be encouraging extreme spending so as to go bankrupt as quickly as possible.

>> No.11245790

>>11244867
That's about 45 pounds sterling. How big is the family? I know of someone who fed herself and toddler on 10 pound per week, I think that included gas
and electricity. In this case it's possible - just - if they buy the "basics" from supermarkets, are creative and waste nothing, but it seems to me not a nice way to live, perhaps survive is a more appropriate word. Would someone try this as an experiment?

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>>11245766
>>11245783
>virgin beggar or lawn mower
>chad armed robber

>> No.11245793

>>11245170
b-based?

>> No.11245799

>>11245766
>I live in Denmark and I could feed two adults and two kids on that money, yeah.
>Cost of living in Denmark is 19.98% higher than in United States
You're basically already limited in the USA on this budget to rice and beans with a small amounts of eggs and chicken, or maybe some vegetable oil. In Denmark someone is probably going to be going to bed hungry a few times on that budget.

>> No.11245801

>>11244867
Japanfag here. When I lived in Canada the food was so expensive that the only way a family could live on $75 a week is if everyone's eating kraft dinner twice a day. No fucking joke. Basically had to be half-vegetarian my whole 2 years there, meat and vegetables were easily double the price of in Japan.

>> No.11245808

>>11245801
Vegetarians are closer to Buddha than meatfags, so that makes sense to me.

>> No.11245830

>>11245801
Thanks for going back, Japanbro

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>>11244867
>A FUCKING LEAF
All politicans should be gassed tbqh

>> No.11245852

>>11244867
Dont know about Canada, but in the US that's going to be scraping by and adding a lot more cooking to the parents schedule on top of work

>> No.11245876

Depends on "family." 3 people or less, sure. If you skimp, $58 USD is easily done. if you're talking like a 5 person family, it's a bit o f a stretch unless you're all beans n rice.

>> No.11245877

>>11244867
they could for sure if they ate chicken back bones with rice or macaroni, soup with a lot of cheap bread, lard on toast and rarely thighs on sale with potatoes.
it's really shit but hey can't complain about it, atleast you have some food

>> No.11245879

>>11245852
The cost of living is significantly higher in Canada than most of the US, except for maybe certain extremely expensive metropolises. The growing season is much shorter due to the cold, so food is in shorter supply and a lot of stuff needs to be outright imported from halfway across the globe. Makes things very expensive

>> No.11245882

>>11244885
i live of 50€ per week (not weekend included) for two. but then again we don't eat for breakfast. so i would say no, a family can't live of 50€ per week.

>> No.11245886

>>11244886
you propably still live with your senpai that pays for your shit. no person buys enough food for a whole week with only 10 dollars.

>> No.11245889

>>11244921
>a pound of shitty meat for ~$10
what? you can get chicken thighs for a dollar a pound. or ground beef 80/20 for $3 a pound. pork chops 2.20 a pound. getting $10/lb meat is fucking stupid if you're trying to save money.

>> No.11245890

how many limes can a nigga get for 75 bones?

>> No.11245904

>>11244867
That fucking twat probably spend over $100 on a single meal

>> No.11245911

>>11245783
Of course earning your own money is more dignified.
If anything, mowing a decent sized lawn for only ten dollars is a charity to the lawn owner.

>>11245799
You honestly think you know my food budget better than I do?
I won't bother looking it up, but I'm guessing that "cost of living" covers other things besides food. Cars and public transport are much more expensive here, and I'm guessing that depending on the area renting or buying a home is too. Petrol is more expensive but people generally drive shorter distances.
I went shopping today. I saw a whole chicken that cost 3 dollars and another whole chicken that cost 18 dollars. If you're buying the latter it's your own fucking problem.
Pasta, rice, potatoes, onions, carrots, sometimes beetroot are piss cheap if you go to the discount stores. 50-75 cents a kilo isn't unheard of. Cheap beans are harder to find but if you can locate one of those Asian stores you might be able to get a 5-kg. sack for something like 10-15 dollars. That's a big chunk out of the 58 but it'll last you a while.
Tiger and Sostrene Grene (fuck you for not enabling that character yet, Hiroshimoot) have nice big bags of spices for 10 dkk which is something like a buck eighty.
You can get 2 kg. of flour for something like a dollar, although I do prefer to more expensive brands since they rise better.
Fruit is often on sale for 2dkk a piece. That's about 3.5 pieces of fruit for a dollar. I.e. whole bananas, pears, apples, large plums...
Also saw 7 porkchops for about 5 dollars today. They're pretty shitty 'chops but they're fine for a stew or meatpie.

But yeah, you go on and lecture me about how much it costs to buy food in a country you have barely heard of.

>> No.11245919

>>11245911
>I'I-ll sweep your deck for a hundy
thanks be to god that this generous man came around to take care of me

>> No.11245929

>>11245919
What do you do for money? Just collect it from the State?
What do you think a job is?

>> No.11245932

>>11245929
do the people you shake down look at you the same way before and after?

>> No.11245937

>>11245932
I haven't mowed lawns for money since my teens, and if you were to scroll up and read my post again you'd see that's what I was suggesting to begin with; if you have kids of a certain age they can do some yardwork around the neighbourhood. It builds character and only an absolute retard would think less of them for it. I charged a lot more than 10 bucks for a whole lawn as well, but figured I'd lowball it here so some retard wouldn't go "you can't get anyone to pay that much hurr". Guess I hadn't counted on anyone being quite as stupid as you.
You think you're earning people's respect by sitting on your ass posting on 4chan instead? No fucking wonder society is going down the drain if people actually think it's shameful to work for money instead of demanding it from the State. Fucking pathetic.

>> No.11245943

>>11245054
Edmonton is cheap as shit you fuck. It may not be ideal but you'll have everything you need

>> No.11245944

>>11245937
>uhhhh granny, I noticed your... carpet is getting pretty dirty *cough cough*
I'm sure you can get more than 10 dollars out of people that pity you enough

>> No.11245946

>>11245075
Where do you live? Even in the rural cities it's not that much

>> No.11245948

>>11245944
That seems to be what BBC News thinks as well.

>> No.11245952

>>11245937
>You think you're earning people's respect by sitting on your ass posting on 4chan instead? No fucking wonder society is going down the drain if people actually think it's shameful to work for money instead of demanding it from the State. Fucking pathetic.
No it's you with the pathetic slave morality. The state can do whatever they want with the money they collect, and they are often so magnanimous as to hand it out to criminals and thieves for no apparent reason. What's truly pathetic and shameful is to hand over your money without a fight instead of demanding the state fuck off.

More realistically, if you had half a brain you'd have set your life up such that you don't pay taxes anyway through legal fictions and tax evasive structures. But you didn't, and now you're bitching about what the government does with your tax bux. Listen pal, you're a slave and it's none of your business what Master does with his tax-harvest

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>>11245952
You honestly think I'm defending the State and taxation?
Hey, do you also think I expect that kid to pay taxes on his ten-dollar yardwork?
You really are a fucking idiot.

>> No.11245966

>>11244867
Yea if you buy food in bulk and cook everything yourself

>> No.11245967

>>11245952
to be fair hustling odd jobs is tax evasion

>> No.11245976

>>11244867
Well, it would get you 60kg of rice at costco ... so I guess you wouldn't quickly starve, but it wouldn't be easy.

>> No.11245981

How big of a family though?

>> No.11245982

>>11245976
60 kg would last much longer than a week, though. So that frees up another 58 bucks the week after.
Do you not get how money works?

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>>11244883
Cute kid you have anon

>> No.11245997

>>11244878
Yeah, i doubt your local stores would even accept CAD

>> No.11245998

>>11244867
When I'm really watching my money, I can feed myself ok-ish for €150 a month (about 225 CAD). That's one person. I might be able to do it for 100 if I restrict my diet a lot, meaning a lot of empty calories and not much meat.

>> No.11246001

>>11244867
RICE AND BEANS RICE AND BEANS RKCE AND BEANS RICE AND BEANS RICE AND RMBEANS RBEJDRJE DJ

>> No.11246004

If you're willing to put in a lot of stove/oven time, that's extremely doable. Don't get solely fresh food; mix some canned and non-perishables in there so you have surplus building.

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>Feeding a family on five double doubles a day
The belts are getting tight...

>> No.11246007

>>11244969
Buy bags of frozen veg then

>> No.11246010

>>11245981
An average canadian family is 3 people. A strong single mother and two children.

>> No.11246014

>>11246010
*half black children

>> No.11246024

>>11246010
*3 chinks
You can get a big bag of rice 75$ easy
set up some rat traps for the meat, and done.

>> No.11246035

>>11244885
Two could.

>> No.11246120

>>11245889

80/20 ground beef is shitty

cheap but shitty

>> No.11246250

>>11244867
I'd eat like a fucking king on $75 a week. I spread $50 for two weeks.

>> No.11246266

>>11246250
Read: family, not "skinnyfat teenager shitposter"

>> No.11246282

>>11244885
$55/Week is the average for me and the wife. You just gotta pay attention to prices and what you buy. Don't buy out of season produce, the butchers department always has something marked down to less than $3/lb, maybe below $2 if your lucky. It's not hard, I hate shopping and I figure this shit out easy.

>> No.11246291

>>11246282
This. It's easily doable if you cook from scratch and you aren't an idiot about what you buy.

>> No.11246324

My mom fed a family of four, plus random guests that my stepfather only gave 15 minutes warning about, on 200 American dollars a month. You just have to be smart about it and know how to stretch meals with grains and pasta.

>> No.11246366

58 usd/week is pretty good for 2-3 people but I think it's a bit of a stretch for 4+ in most places unless you feed them rice and beans every day. I'll be damned if I'm not gonna give my kid a variety of good shit so he doesn't grow up a tastelet though but I guess mega poorfags probably don't care about that anyway. I think 65-75 is reasonable for a family of 4-5. Tip to anyone trying to budget: chink food is really fucking cheap to make, easy, filling, and pretty good, especially curries, noodle dishes, and rolls/dim sum type of stuff.

>> No.11246406

>>11244867

49,3 € sounds tight, depends on if the family is short on time or not. If they have a bit of time for cooking big batches, then they should be fine in Finland at least.

Another thing is, I don't really feel like it would be good for them. It would be better if they had a bigger budget. Anytime a politician looks for the smallest amount a family can live on, you know they are looking to cut wellbeing.

>> No.11246422

>>11244867
It's actually really easy.

1. Shop at Aldi
2. Plan menu so you use similar ingredients in a given week.
3. No more than 2 different meats per week.

Boom. Now you can have anything you want for a family of 3 for under $60/month.

>> No.11246424

>>11246422
>No more than 2 different meats per week
Is this not normal?

>> No.11246457

>>11244867
>Tfw journo were even more retarded than him trying to do grocery on 75$
They even went to upper scale grocery stores.

>> No.11246491

>>11246324
nothing quite like momma's spit roast

>> No.11246504

>>11245207
>58 cans of Vienna sausage / 7 days a week / 4 people in the family = 2 cans per person per day
>2 cans x 260 calories/can = 520 calories a day

>> No.11246514

>>11244867
It's possible, not reasonable.

>> No.11246529

>>11244883

share a receipt, please, could help me out

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>>11245134
>>11245147
Guys I'm interested in this concept. I never thought of eating balanced meal regularly won't feel repetitive. Mind sharing some recipe ? I'll love to try them out.

Thnaks loads

>> No.11246552

>>11246550
They're both retards and possibly autistic.
Most people hate eating the same thing every day no matter how "balanced" it is.
That's why only the mentally ill go on the Soylent.

>> No.11246566

>>11244867
They easily can. Doesn't mean it'll be good tasting meals but that's called luxury.

>> No.11246582

>talk to a millenial about food budget

> he rants about how stupid poor people are and how he lives off 40 dollars a week

>eats protein bars in the morning

>I ask if they are included in his budget

>find out eventually he eats at his parents and raids their pantry

> his parents divorce and move away

> he starts ranting about how expensive food is without ever acknowledging his prior bullcrap

>> No.11246587

>>11246550
>>11246552
I don't eat the same thing every day, nobody said you had to do that, but I'll rotate through pretty much the same few things every week. Bean with cheese or yogurt, pasta + dairy, cheese sandwich, eggs, meat dish. Combined with salads, or steamed vegetables. You can switch up things like how you season the beans, what kind of meat, what kind of cheese on the sandwich, but I never get sick of eating that stuff all the time. Just make sure it's seasoned well with aromatics, salt, vinegar/lemon, etc. The food I eat is really nutritious and satisfying so it's pretty hard to get sick of it.

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Leaf here. I go grocery shopping once every two weeks and spend around 120 Canadollars. That is 60 bucks per week. That is just for me, but taking into consideration that I eat ridiculously large portions and that women and children don't usually eat very much I would say that this guy's estimate is spot-on.

>> No.11246624

>>11246582
Things that never happened for 200

>> No.11246658

Okay, so 75CAD is a few cents shy of 80AUD, so let’s just round it up for a nice number.

Lets assume this is for a family of 4 (2 parents, 2 kids) for ease of division, that means each member gets $20/w of food a piece. Now for the sake of argument let’s say both kids are teenage boys, thus requiring the most amount of calories. Again for ease of calculating let’s say each person requires 2000cal/day of food (obviously the boys would require a touch more and the mother anywhere from 200 to 600 less).

>Breakfast:
Toast and spread
Eggs
Cereal and milk
Coffee

>Lunch:
Left overs from dinner
Cold cut sandwiches
Fruit
On sale snack bars/other treat

>Dinners:
lasagna
Stir fry
Spaghetti
Stir fry
Bangers and mash
Curried sausages
Left overs

Doing a quick shop around online (not even finding specials or using places such as Aldi) I put together an above list for about $100AUD. This is first week, and not including incidentals that you reuse over weeks/months (big bag of rice, coffee, Curry powder/stir fry sauces/paste, etc).

Obviously you’re not going to be living grand, but you can easily “live” off of 75CAD/w and not even be a beans and rice family. Hell you could even swing some spare change after the first few set up weeks towards getting supplies to bake your own treats such as brownies, cookies, etc etc.

>> No.11246671

>>11244867
Yeah, Ive bought 10lbs of potatoes for 2$, with some milk and eggs, and a few pounds of carrots etc and you got everything you need, Could feed a family for 75$ no problem.

>> No.11246850

>>11246504
that's why I included the gummy bears you dumpling. The sausages are 50 cents/can

and you have to drink the sausage water too.

>> No.11246889

>>11245261

$40 you had a month vs $232 as what is proposed is not really comparable.

Economy of scale really starts to pick up somewhere between those two values and just having a little more money can really go much farther in bulk buying.

>> No.11246902

>>11245452
>and you might experience side effects on not consuming enough calories

A lot of staple which numerous people in this thread have already mentioned are actually incredibly nutrient and calorie dense and per penny are still cheaper than your average fast food cheap meal. You only need a relatively little meat in the diet for the complete protein complement which otherwise is adequately gained from beans - a cheap reliable and filling source of protein along with other valuable nutrients.

>> No.11246913

>>11244867

EU fag here.

Groceries run me about 600 - 900 Eurobucks per month, depending on what i buy. Bell peppers cost about 1 Euro per piece, regardless of color. A package of strawberries is 3 Euros per 250g. Also, meat is fucking expensive as hell, since you pay about 7 bucks for 250g of decent quality chicken breast. While you can get some lower quality chicken breasts for about half that price, but they are unsuitable for stuff like stir frying and only usable in stuff like curry and stews, since they are basically mystery meat, with weird striations and stuff.

Beef costs about 5 E per 250g, regardless of whether it is organic or not.

Stuff like canned kidney beans is also expensive, at like 2E per 200g can.

>> No.11246926

>>11246913
>Groceries run me about 600 - 900 Eurobucks per month

There is something very wrong with your country if that is the case or you must be a real fatass.

>> No.11246943

>>11246658
>let’s say each person requires 2000cal/day of food (obviously the boys would require a touch more and the mother anywhere from 200 to 600 less).
That's low. Unless your lifestyle is highly sedentary, 2000 calories is not enough. It depends somewhat on your climate, too. In the northern U.S. or Canada, I'd say an adult woman who's doing cooking and housework needs at least 2000, and maybe closer to 2300 in the winter (if you're having to live on that tight of a food budget, your home heating budget is going to be similarly tight and you're not going to be keeping the thermostat at the typical 68-72º, but more like 62-65º), and an active teenage boy could very well need 3000.

That said, meat every day, let alone multiple times per day, is not a necessity. That doesn't always mean falling back on rice & beans, either: you can get a lot of protein out of eggs and dairy.

>> No.11246954

>>11246926
>he doesn't understand how terrible socialism is

>> No.11246975

>>11246954
As an EU fag myself I can honestly say that the problem is entirely with you.

>> No.11246984

>>11244867
>>11244867
>>11244867
Dont mock him, hay is cheaper than you think.

>> No.11246986

>>11246975
I'm American, we enjoy cheap prices and low taxes due to based capitalism. I'm not that fat Euro.

>> No.11246996

>>11246975

https://shop.billa.at/produkte/hofstaedter-huehner-filet/00-406552

here you have the cheapest chicken breasts that you can buy in any store in my country. Keep in mind that they cheat you, since a 1kg pack only contains about like 800g of actual meat.

so you are basically paying 14E for 800g of mystery meat.

>> No.11246998

>>11244949
>fucking salt
Bath salt is better

>> No.11247001

>>11246986
No, you enjoy cheap prices and low taxes due to being 3rd world-tier on a wide range of areas ranging from health care to education.

>> No.11247004

>>11245788
was not expecting to see u/acc memes on /ck/

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>>11245036
>waaah I'm too important to eat meat that isn't
>meatbright red
>bright red
Not eating your meat blue

>> No.11247017

>>11247001
Sorry sweaty, everything here is top tier. We have the greatest health care in the world, unfortunately none of us can afford it.

>> No.11247019

>>11245069
>4 eggs every morning
4? That's too few , go for a cool 8

>> No.11247026

>>11245177
>I lived on snap for 2 years
You should tru just living on soar for 2 years.

>> No.11247036

>>11244867
I eat like a horse, and pretty well. Spend under 30 USD a week on food.
>1.29/lb for chicken thighs
>99 cent gallons of whole milk
>rice
>beans
>.79/dozen eggs
>cook my own sourdough at <35 cents a loaf

Shit I've been eating teriyaki chicken and sweet potato chorizo skillets all week. It's reasonable if you don't live in America's hat where apparently food prices are going nuts.

>> No.11247042

>>11247036
And by "eat like a horse" I mean I have 3,800 kcal a day or I lose weight.

>> No.11247044

>>11247036
How much of each item are you buying to equate to $30 though?

>> No.11247048

>>11247036

Not a single non starchy vegetable....

Tell me, how many of your teeth have already fallen out due to scurvy?

You know that 1/3 of your plate are supposed to be filled with vegetables?

>> No.11247072

>>11244867

Governments always imply a family can SURVIVE on $$ a week, not ENJOY what they eat for $$ a week.

>> No.11247075

>>11247044
Depends on what I'm making that week. Prepped a bunch of chicken teriyaki for 5 lunches this week. Each one is 2 thighs (around 1 lb bone-in), 1/5 cup dry rice and negligible amounts of soy sauce, sugar and spices. Was even fancy this week and spend .99 on some green onions to put on top.

Comes out to under 1.50/meal. I spend between 20-25 a week on food. Big breakfast for a week is just 2 dozen eggs and a tray of those frozen hash brown patties. Potato bean soup, chili, etc.

It isn't terribly difficult if you have some rudimentary cooking skills.

>> No.11247088

$75 is pretty easliy doable when your main carb is rice, with some meat/veggies. Asians can do this easily.

You people are probably thinking of nigger fast food errday eating habits.

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>>11244880
Yeah because you're a fat ass piece of shit.


I'd say it's been about $200 a month on groceries but that's just for me as a single guy I don't think I could feed two kids and a wife for $200 alone unless we're eating some pretty meager meals.

Obviously I'm using real dollars for my comparison so all of those figures are in United States money

>> No.11247121

>>11247075
If you're supposedly eating around 3800 cal a day with 1-1.50 per meal, how's your weekly food bill 20-25? Also, assuming were talking usd, 20-25/week per person in a family (even assuming the family is 3) is still more than the above $58. Of course, some family members might eat a bit less than others, but if they're not very small childrdn, I think the point still stands.

>> No.11247125

>>11245313
chicken thighs are 3.79 a lb, sometimes 3 even on sale.

>> No.11247130

>>11244867
not in fucking Canada you can't. you would barely scrape by $75 for two parents and a young child in a cheap place in the USA.

>> No.11247132

>>11247125
Where do you live?

>> No.11247140

>>11247121
This is what I want to know

>> No.11247154

>thinking retards who spout "b-buh i live off 40/week why cant a family of 3+ do 75?!" kind of shit can into math

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The problem with poor people is that they are stupid and lazy. This is the reason why they are poor in the first place. I could easily feed a family on $10 a day. And that wouldn't even be frugal, I would be cooking good quality food. Of course poorfags won't learn how to do this (and it isn't that complicated), they would rather sit around watching TV, smoking cigarettes, drinking beer, and whining about how they don't get enough handouts from the hardworking man.

>> No.11247164

>>11247121
>Also, assuming were talking usd, 20-25/week per person in a family (even assuming the family is 3) is still more than the above $58. Of course, some family members might eat a bit less than others, but if they're not very small childrdn, I think the point still stands.
A normal person doesn't need anywhere near 3800 calories per day, so the point fails.

>> No.11247197

>>11247164
My prior point is that guy is literally lying about cal count. Do the math. 1-1.5$ meals 3 times a week comes out to around 20-30. His meal sounds like a completely normal meal that's probably around 600-900 if I had to guess. You'd need more than $1-1.5 of chicken and rice to reach anywhere near 3.8k a day with 3 meals on par with what he described. A generous 4 eggs a day is for a week is 300-400 calories. With hashbrowns it's still a normal meal.

>> No.11247226

>>11247154
>>11247161
>>11247197
>>11247121
/thread

>> No.11247271

>>11244909
Why do people think they're allowed preferences when they're living from the good will of others.

>> No.11247295

>>11247271
Millennials are spoiled because they didn't have to deal with the same kind of hardships as their boomer parents.

They think it's normal to have an internet connection, pricey toys, and be able to eat whatever they want any time, without ever having to eat leftovers because that's what they're used to. They don't realize that that degree of luxury is very recent in terms of human society, and what it takes to get there.

>> No.11247321

>>11246406
49.3€/week on food alone is easily doable in Germany. You wouldn't even need to pay that much attention to what you are buying. in fact, if you spend +50€/week on food for an average family, you are either incompetent or stupidly rich.

>> No.11247422

For a family that seems kinda hard, for a single person it's easily doable

>> No.11247642

3 dozen eggs: $6
2 packs of 16 slices of bacon: $10
3 packs of 6 Thomas Bagels: $10.50
4 Pounds of Chicken Breasts: $22
Exuberant taxes because I can't be assed to find the actual tax rate ($1 per item): $12
Total: $60 USD
Depends on how big the family is but generally if you have more kids than you can afford you fucked up, unless you're doing child labor.

>> No.11247668

>>11247271
>good will
This implies those others voluntarily paid those taxes. The money is taken from them by force, there is no goodwill involved.

>> No.11247696

If you don't know how to feed a family of 4 on 10 dollars (CAD) a day you should get sterilized.

>> No.11247698

some places that's possible, but some places it's not an nobody should be having to do it. the fuck you even have taxes for if a family can't get atleast a crisp hundo

>> No.11247699

I can buy 10kg of rice or pasta for like ten dollars. Throw in some cheap protein like beans plus whatever's on sale (there's always ground beef and some cuts of pork or chicken legs for $2/lb or less) and some cheap high nutrition:price ratio greens like spinach, cabbage etc and you're eating pretty well. Of course most people who can't spare money for food can't cook so it's not like it matters when all you know how to make is great value lasagna and kraft dinner with hot dogs in it

>> No.11247706

>>11247642
eggs cost more than that sometimes
groceries aren't taxed you moron
I'm one dude and I eat more than that every week

>> No.11247710

>>11247642
>buys bacon on foodstamps
lmfao

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>>11247706
>groceries aren't taxed you moron

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>>11247712
sorry you live in a cucked state

>> No.11247773

>>11247771
You pay for it one way or another.

>> No.11247774

>>11247771
The rest of us are talking about Canada, buddy.

>> No.11247776

>>11247642
A child raised on a diet like that is going to end up severely underdeveloped. It's the sort of bad start in life you can never recover from. You only get one chance to grow into your adult body.

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>>11247706
>groceries aren't taxed you moron
Except in Idaho, South Dakota, Kansas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Alabama, Illinois, Mississippi, Arkansas, Tennessee, Maine, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia, Hawaii, and probably maybe some states that are too small for me to read the icons on the map key?

>> No.11247831

>>11247774
>>11247773
>1. The supply of basic groceries, which includes most supplies of food and beverages marketed for human consumption (including sweetening agents, seasonings and other ingredients to be mixed with or used in the preparation of such food or beverages), is zero-rated. However, certain categories of foodstuffs, for example, carbonated beverages, candies and confectionery, and snack foods are taxable. If a product's tax status is in doubt, the CRA will consider the manner in which the product is displayed, labelled, packaged, invoiced and advertised to determine its tax status.

https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/forms-publications/publications/4-3/basic-groceries.html#_Toc155586103

how can americans know this little about thier own and neighboring countries?

>> No.11247833

>>11247778
>except in flyover flyover flyover flyover flyover flyover flyover flyover flyover flyover flyover flyover flyover flyover and hawaii

LOL how does it feel living in a cucked state?

>> No.11247867

>>11247642
You know this is about 2.5k calories (being generous with values) per day for a whole family right? You're better off with literally just beans and rice. What a retarded list

>> No.11247920

>>11247833
>flyover
>where the nation's capital is
>flyover
>5th highest GDP in the country
Kekekeke. Keep making excuses
>with so many deep harbors its its theorized everyones' navies could dock there at once, is key to the US Navy, and US commercial fisheries
You're really desperate and don't know what a flyover is do you?

>> No.11247973

>>11247831
You might not pay taxes on groceries, but you'll pay more for gas or be taxed more on other items to offset it. In states with grocery taxes other items like gas are cheaper and vice versa. How do you not understand this?

>> No.11248004

>>11247831
>person speaking in USD
>people start talking about state taxes
>how can americans know so little about neighboring countries' grocery taxes?
You're joking right? Or are you really arrogant enough to believe that other countries' citizens need to learn about your tax laws if they never plan on living there? Fucking leafs.

>> No.11248025

>>11247973

I can't drive and my parents buy my food

>> No.11248043

>>11248004
The thread is literally about Canada, you stupid fuck.

>> No.11248052

>>11244867
Maybe a small family out in the country. City food's expensive.

>> No.11248092

>>11247295
Im sorry, what "hardships" did boomers go through? Im strictly talking about Americans here but boomers were born into a literal land of plenty. They grew up during a time of unprecidented prosperity. I dont usually defend the shitty actions of many members of my generation but my cohort came of age during the recession. I've been on my own since 17 and have had to do some really shit jobs and live with several shitty roomates over the years just to get to where i am.

>> No.11248105

>>11245017
7/10 bait. had be until "vegan"

>> No.11248113

>>11248092
huh, I guess hard work DOESN'T always build character, zoomers were right after all

>> No.11248274

That's roughly $251US/month.
I think I could feed a family of four with it. Lemme check, using local prices.

First, the carbs.
About 1/3 lb of rice, give or take, = breakfast for four people per day (rice porridge), so we'd be eating roughly 10lbs/month of rice just for breakfast. 2/3lb of rice provides enough boiled rice for 4 people for dinner. 10lbs will provide enough rice for about half a month's dinners. 10lbs for breakfast + 10lbs for dinner = 20lbs. I can get a 20lb sack of rice for $7.
A 20lb sack of flour makes enough bread for four people's lunches for a month. That's $5.
Ghetto-brand Mexican import pasta, La Moderna, costs 33¢ per 7oz mini sack. Three sacks is eight servings, enough two feed a family of four for two nights, so you'd need $8 worth of pasta to feed the family for half the month's dinners.
That's $20 for a month's worth of carbs.

Next, the produce.
The family will eat the USDA recommended quantity of 1lb of fruits and veg per day. That's roughly $5 per day IE $155/month. However, on days the family eat beans, which will be sixteen of them in a 31 day month (see below), one fruit/vegetable portion will be covered by the
legumes IE the total is actually $141.25/month. For ease, let's round up: $142.

On to the beans.
2lb sacks of beans cost $1.79 and provide four nights of dinner. For a 31-day month, a little over half the family dinners will be bean-centric, for a total cost of $7.16. Let's round that up to $8.

Meats.
Slightly under half the family dinners will be meat-based, a total of 13.25lbs (edible portion weight) will be consumed. You can get many boneless meats, like chicken breast, chuck roast and pork loin, for $2.49/lb. Bone-in meats are often a better deal, but figuring the edible portion ratio can be a clusterfuck so for sake of simplicity, this family will buy only boneless meat. 13.25 × $2.49 ≈ $33.

Dairy
$3.50 gets me a gallon of milk. I go through it in a week, so the family will each do the same, for a cost of $14.

>> No.11248295

>>11248274
That leaves $34 for cooking oil, seasonings, spices, sugar, coffee, additional ingredients etc
IE, it's doable only assuming absolutely no loss (food going forgotten in the back of the fridge and going bad or the dog gets into the ground beef you bought for tomorrow's dinner or the cat took a shit in the parsnips or something) which basically means it's not doable at all.
I was wrong.

If I could up the budget to $69/week (IE about $299/month), it would likely be doable, though.

>> No.11248342

>>11247771
But I pay sales tax on groceries in Louisiana.

>> No.11248428

>>11244867
doable, when you are in a familly many expensive food items can be bought in bulk and cut the price to more than half at time. potatoes, rice, pasta, but also and especially meat.

>> No.11248438

Its probably doable, but I imagine I'd have to severely limit the dishes I prepare, buy nothing pre-prepared, and shop at discount stores in bad areas. I grew up "rich" by non-privileged standards, so to me, it would take some amount of sacrifice to make $174 a month on average work.

>> No.11248486

>>11248274
So white rice for breakfast and white bread for lunch?

Calculating the calories for that, you have about 112000 calories. Divided by 31 days, that's 3.6k calories per day for the whole family. 900 calories per person. That's obviously absolutely not nearly enough, especially for kids. By forcing a family on this tight of a budget, you're potentially dooming the children to a lifetime of dealing with not having the proper nutrition and right amount of calories. And they're eating fucking rice for breakfast and bread for lunch.

>> No.11248492

>>11244867
my family eats on about that much a week. its really not hard anon

>> No.11248528

>>11244901
I just bought four pounds of chicken this evening for $1.75, so about US$1 for a kilo.

>> No.11248537

>>11245258
$8-10 a pound for ground beef? It's regularly on sale around here for $1.99 (at least once a month).

>> No.11248544

>>11248537
Oops, I misread. $8-10 for non-ground beef is around here $5-9.

>> No.11248585

>>11244867
Depends are we talking 1 kid or two or even more? Also if we are talking 3 basic meals a day + prepping food, yeah this is doable with 1 kid if you know the dishes to make; don't shop at meme whole foods, and use coupons which are essentially free money

>> No.11248597

>>11248043
And yet we were responding to a person talking about the US.

Canada's literary rates are probably better than the US, but they clearly missed you.

>> No.11248834

>>11244867
Yeah?

>> No.11248860

>>11248486
Where in the fuck are you getting your numbers?
900 kcal/day? Wut? Did you miss the gallon of milk per person per week? The meat? The beans? The cooking oil and sugars? The fruits and veg? The fuck are you on about?

>> No.11248933

>>11248860
That post I responded to was food for the month, not the week. It was not one gallon of milk per person per week, but one gallon per family per week. 14 lbs of meat for the month. 8 lbs of beans for the month.

20 lbs of rice = 33k calories
20 lbs of flour = 33k calories
11 lbs of pasta = 18.5k calories
124 lbs of fruit/veg = 7k calories of cabbage and 15k calories of apples
8 lbs beans = 12k calories
14 lbs meat = 11k calories
4 gallons of milk = 10k calories

Did the math on everything, and my earlier calculations were wrong because I only did the week's worth of fruit and veg, not the month, but it didn't make a big difference. Ended up being about 140k calories total for the month, 4.5k calories total per day, 1130 calories per person per day. Still not nearly enough. You'd need to double the calorie intake, or at least double it for the adults which means a 25% higher budget is necessary minimum, assuming mom and dad aren't physically active at all.

>> No.11248961

>>11248933
Also this is them eating rice for breakfast and bread for lunch every day. There are obvious health issues that will come from eating this way, although enrichment can stave off the worst of it, you'll feel like absolute trash eating rice and bread for 2/3 meals every day.

>> No.11249083

>>11244909
He said you could eat/live on. Not that you could have wonderful meals on that amount. Poor people aren't entitled to good food and being overly picky with meals. Why should they be?

>> No.11249103

>>11249083
>Poor people aren't entitled to good food
There's a huge difference between meeting your basic health needs and having "good" food. You aren't getting either on this amount of money for a whole family.

>> No.11249117

>>11244880
I spend around $70 a week. I eat meat every day and don't look for sales.

>> No.11249133

>>11245937
This is the most butthurt boomer post I’ve seen in a while. Genuinely shocked the word bootstraps isn’t part of it

>> No.11249253

>>11245889
do you not understand that some meat is better than other meat? what the fuck is your defect?

>> No.11249272

>>11244867
If by family he means one slightly overweight bachelor, or two malnourished teenagers, then yes, $58 a week is fine.

>> No.11249391

Currently a resident of Toronto Ontario.

This guy is full of shit. I grocery shop, and often, and I cook the food in my household.

Groceries are taxed in Canada, just as everything is, and at higher cost.

The average grocery shopping trip per week is roughly $100.00 MINIMUM for my SO and I. We are also currently doing Intermittent fasting so this is minus one meal per day and not including going out to restaurants occasionally during the week.

It’s clear to me that this guy does not know jack shit about shopping and probably never cooks. $75 per week could have probably been OK maybe many years ago, but not anytime recently for a whole family. It’s about $19.00 alone for 4 chicken breasts PLUS TAX. I made a lasagna this weekend from scratch and the grocery bill was $89.00 for everything I needed alone.

>> No.11249833

>>11244867
It's possible but not probable. I look out for deals to save on meat and freeze extras, but I'm also pre-diabetic, and low carb, low sugar substitutes are really fucking expensive. Coconut flour is 8$ for a small bag; almond flour is 20$ for the same amount. A small bag of Truvia is 7$ on sale. I basically cut baked goods out of my diet except for the occasional slice of toast, and stick to cheap meat and vegetables.

>> No.11249928

I just moved from bumfuck nowhere Cape Breton in Nova Scotia to Idaho.

It was not possible to feed two adults on 75 a week. Milk was 6 dollars a gallon, ground beef 6-7/lb if not on sale, etc. Fast food prices are the opposite of the US as in they were more expensive. Legit struggled to eat, sometimes going days without food.

We eat what feels like kings to us now on way less a month in the US, but I am always wary of what the fuck they are putting in it now as truth in labeling is not a thing here.

>> No.11249958

>>11249928
truth in labeling is just protectionism for companies that wouldn’t survive if we were allowed to lie on packaging

if someone wants to sell poison labeled as food, people would die and the company would eventually lose customers

it’s like these communists have never even taken economics

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>> No.11250480

>>11244968
>It's just a week how much variety do you need?
As someone who has worked in remote/dangerous places, where getting 'new' food is either impossible due to shipping, or extremely dangerous/expensive, a repeating menu sucks ass.

>> No.11250485

>>11244943
>LOL fuck off m8
>Leaf here, see pic related for the price of bell peppers in my locale.
My wife grows these, and tomatoes, and other shit like spices, in the house using a hydro setup when it's out of season and too cold to do so outside. Stop being a poor fag.

>> No.11250486

>>11250485
>doesn't realize the cost of running grow rigs even though he runs one

>> No.11250516

>>11245147
>However, I know that if I was mainly eating rice and beans like all these people are suggesting, I'd get strong cravings for dairy, eggs, meat, salads, etc. and not feel as well as I could.

My wife can do the rice with every meal thing. She grew up like that though. I can't do it, and when I do eat rice with a meal, it's a small portion, not the majority of the meal. I think it has more to do with how you were conditioned growing up.

>> No.11250517

>>11245170
>Kids are like dogs, if you only give them kibble everyday instead of real food they won't know any difference because they can't compare it to anything else.
Basically proved my point. Thanks anon.

>> No.11250522

>>11244880
How much of this is spent on alcohol and prepared foods though?

I find that if I stick to produce then I can keep my budget to 50USD/week provided that I have the basics (rice & spices) while shopping at whole foods and trader joes

>> No.11250524

>>11245911
>You honestly think you know my food budget better than I do?
Must be a rich Dane. You poor faggots get taxed almost 80%.
t. Working in your country, TAX FREE.

>> No.11250525

>>11244867
Yes. It's doable. I feel like I could do this if I planned my meals carefully and cooked from scratch. I might go ahead and try this. However, a very decent understanding of cooking and baking is required to feed a family of 4 on this amount of money per week.

>> No.11250553

>>11250524
There's a flat 25% VAT on groceries.
Income tax doesn't matter at all in this discussion since the issue was; could you feed a family for a week on 58 American dollars.
And I could. We wouldn't be having steak very often but we'd have a varied, healthy, and tasty diet and not go hungry.
I wrote that whole post citing actual prices and you just chose to sperg out and... what exactly? Brag about not paying taxes? I don't like the taxation here so I think it's great that you're avoiding it. We all should.

Maybe you'd see things my way if you tried shopping in Rema 1000 or Netto instead of Magasin or whatever.

>> No.11250562

>>11244991
I didn't even grow up poor and my parents would still make a chicken last for two dinners.

>> No.11250588

>tfw butter has gotten super expensive over the past 4-5 years
feck

>> No.11250617

>>11250553
Faggot danes are all statist cucks was all I meant, calm down.

>> No.11250623

>>11250486
LEDs don't use much power. It pays for itself quickly, depending on what you're growing and the food you like to eat out of season.

>> No.11250628

>>11250623
Ahh I assumed you were using lights, yeah LEDs are basically nothing.

>> No.11250630

This website is a godsent:
https://efficiencyiseverything.com/

>> No.11250636

>>11250553
>>11250617
Wasn't me, but he's not wrong. Probably an Aussie by the English used.
Regardless, you guys are poor as fuck. And your food sucks. You pay like 70% in income tax, and then 25% on food, and a lot of it is shit food.
I just feel bad for you, and every other socialist Kingdom in the EU.

>> No.11250653

>>11248933
>implying apples and cabbage are the only produce in the world
>ridiculously low-balling the calories in meat
>only calculating milk for the week and not the month
>still conveniently omitting cooking fats
Try again, but without being intellectually dishonest this time.

>> No.11250654

>>11245997
I have found many stores unwilling to exchange CAD work for groceries.

>> No.11250691

>family of five
>upwards of $15 / meal, 3 meals/day for $45 at McDonalds, the cheapest and bestest place we got for poor people
>already halfway out of money in one day
FUCK THIS GUY MORE MONEY NOW

>> No.11250707

>>11250654
I bet nobody wants to pay for your comedy either.

>>11250617
Not all of us, but sadly a lot, yes.

>> No.11250718

Why are people on gibs having kids and why is the government sponsoring this reverse eugenics?

>> No.11250731

>>11250653
>implying apples and cabbage are the only produce in the world
The calorie content won't change a whole lot, unless you're eating something like avocado which would obviously be unreasonable on such a tight budget
>ridiculously low-balling the calories in meat
I used chicken thigh which is cheap and higher in fat than other parts of chicken. I guess you could use 70/30 ground beef which would add another 7k calories total, but still not enough to make a big difference. Would only increase calorie count up to 1185 per person per day instead of 1130.
>only calculating milk for the week and not the month
A gallon of milk does not have 10k calories, it has 2400. 2400x4=9600 rounded up to 10k, so my calculations for that were adding more for convenience.
>still conveniently omitting cooking fats
I guess if you want everyone to be eating 1/2 cup of vegetable oil per day, then it'll bump up the calories to proper amounts. That would fit within the budget I suppose if you buy the cheapest vegetable oil. You still have a family eating white rice and refined oil for breakfast and white bread and refined oil for lunch though. I guess you could mix in some of the fruit and veg with breakfast and lunch, but it still seems unhealthy. Pretty sure you'd end up with kids who didn't grow properly and having to deal with that for the rest of their lives.

>> No.11250735

>>11250691
stupid strawman poster

>> No.11250848

I got 8# of 80/20 ground beef for just under 10 bucks this week. Was moved to the discount rack. Also my store has meat packs that usually have chicken beef and pork in some form for 20 bucks. So yes very doable. Milk here is 1.88 per gallon. You have to just really watch and shop sales and hit the discounted meat and produce at the store.

>> No.11251150

>>11249958
If the only thing that concerns you about what you are putting into your body is the immediate threat of being poisoned, then I don't know, you care even less than I about your own life.

We have no idea what we are eating now unless we buy the granola super organic stuff, which sucks, but it is still cheaper than we spent on not organic groceries in Canada.

>> No.11251325

>>11244867
>3 meals a day
>7 days a week
>75 dollars for 21 meals
Fuck no you couldn't do that for 3-5 people