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Don't Americans care about what goes into their food?

>> No.11910599

Their president prefers Diet Coke over Water

>> No.11910601

>>11910591
Don't bent-tooth's care about who is immigrating to their country?

>> No.11910604

>>11910591
No.

>> No.11910610

>>11910591
In EU, the tomatoes that goes into ketchup are imported from china, mostly rotten and leaking.
i wouldn't eat that shit.
US ketchup is overly processed like all their foods.
I wouldn't eat that shit either.

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>>11910591
Fuck you, bong.

>> No.11910613

There are fewer regulations in the EU about this kind of thing. So they can just say "tomatoes" without any indication as to what kind of tomatoes they are. Or they can say "sugar" without mentioning where that sugar came from or how refined it is.
Plus, there are some ingredients they aren't required to list at all.

At least the label on the left is closer to being honest.

>> No.11910623

>>11910591
Do we have a fucking choice? There is probably some organic, fair trade, dolphin safe, black lives matter, sustainable and responsible choice at the hippie store for six times the price with a short shelf life that tastes bad. But fuck that, ketchup is crap anyway.
Sugar is protected by tariffs and corn syrup is fucking cheap, companies only want profits, so they formulate shit that will sell and rake in the cash, they dont give a shit about us.

>> No.11910624

>>11910601
Dont you, spicboi?

>> No.11910630

>>11910591
>Don't Americans care about what goes into their food?
Certainly.
that's why I usually make my own ketchup from tomatoes in my garden. When I do buy it I get the "simply heinz" version which has fewer ingredients than the UK one does.

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>>11910591
>>11910612
>cheaper than heinz

>> No.11910634

Store brand organic ketchup is usually cheaper than Heinz’s bullshit anyway, and tastes much better

>> No.11910635

>>11910591
The US one just looks like it's more specific.

>> No.11910638

>>11910631
Point is, there are organic brands that don’t have corn syrup and other shit in them in the US. There are co ops every 50 feet in blue states. You just provided another example, so thanks.

>> No.11910642

>>11910631
>ORGANIC
>ORGANIC
>ORGANIC
>ORGANIC
>ORGANIC

I guess if you find something that works, don't let go of it. That word means nothing.

>> No.11910644

>>11910591
American has better ingredient label law?

>> No.11910646

>>11910591
>Spirit Vinegar
at least the US version isn't haunted

>> No.11910654

>>11910642
>(of food or farming methods) produced or involving production without the use of chemical fertilizers, pesticides, or other artificial agents.

Go to bed, Monsanto shill.

>> No.11910657

>>11910654
the first definition reads
>relating to or derived from living matter.
so... literally any fruit or vegetable or byproduct thereof. Got it.

>> No.11910663

>>11910638
I was agreeing with you, both annies and tj's are examples of why anyone who cares about not wanting HFCS or concentrated tomatoes has every opportunity not to buy that shit
>have fun with your 'superior' heinz, bongs

>> No.11910691

>>11910591

>All that HFCS and then even more corn sirup for good measure

Jesus. Is that stuff put into everything instead of sugar?

>> No.11910695

>>11910591
Actually. This explains why many people around complain about Heinz ketchup.
When i grew up i always shunned anything other than heinz as heinz was perfection.

>> No.11910703

>>11910691
Yes. In the US sugar costs about 3x what it does elsewhere in the world due to taxes and quotas we enacted during the late 1970's. Corn syrup is much cheaper so we use that instead.

>> No.11910723

>>11910631
>the salt isn't ORGANIC
Disgusting, it's probably made out of chemicals.

>> No.11910724

>>11910591
Obese Americans would rather blame their perfectly functioning metabolisms, various self-diagnosed mental illnesses, the government, genetics, and/or doctors for their health problems rather than their diet.

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>>11910613
> eu has fewer food regulations

>> No.11910753

>>11910631
80% of your vitamin C and only 600 calories per bottle!

>> No.11910755

>>11910631
>supporting the organic food scam

>> No.11910758

>>11910725
He meant to say fewer food label regulations which is true. America's labeling system is unwieldy and at times even contradictory with how much exists.

>> No.11910760

>>11910755
What's wrong with comparing two products and buying whichever one you think tastes the best?

I often buy organic produce--not because it says "organic" on it, but because I compared the organic and the non-organic and the organic was fresher. sometimes the organic is best, sometimes it's not. Judging by the label is fucking stupid either way, judge the product itself and ignore what the label says.

>> No.11910763

>>11910691
HFCS is also a preservative I believe, so win win for companies.

>> No.11910764

>>11910755
Go drink a shot of roundup since it's harmless, monsanto shill.

>> No.11910771

>>11910760
The organic label is a scam designed to trick people into paying more money for an identical product. When you buy organic, you're supporting pseudoscientific snake oil salesmen. I refuse to buy organic on principle.

>> No.11910790

>>11910771
>>The organic label is a scam
didn't I just tell you to ignore the label?

>> paying more money for an identical product
Many times the product isn't identical. that's the point. If the conventional tomatoes smell like nothing and are half-rotten while meanwhile the organic ones are nice and fresh why wouldn't you buy the organic ones? (of course, the opposite is often true too).

>>I refuse to buy organic on principle.
so sometimes you buy the worse product just because you have some weird mental hangup? seems strange.

>> No.11910795

>>11910591
>>11910631
>organic
Does /ck/ really fall for this meme??

>> No.11910804

>>11910790
You are supporting fraudsters when you buy organic. That's the point. Would you buy your tomatoes from Al Qaeda if they were fresher too?

>> No.11910809

>>11910599
Nice try libshit we see you

>> No.11910821

>>11910804
>Fraudsters
what fraud, exactly? The price and the organic label are clearly visible so nothing is being "hidden" from me.

>Would you buy your tomatoes from Al Qaeda if they were fresher too?
Yes.

>> No.11910824

>>11910703

Can you escape it without paying a fortune? Like are there products that ignore that in high dosage health problematic stuff in favour of normal sugar that you don't have to pay double for?

>> No.11910829

>>11910610
>imported from china
Most cheap tomatoes here come from Morocco.

>> No.11910833

>>11910657
Organic in the US requires a plant to have been grown either without pesticides, or with certain allowed pesticides and fertilizers

>> No.11910843

>>11910824
>Can you escape it without paying a fortune?
Easily. It sounds scary to say that sugar is 3x the cost of the global market, but it's still very cheap.

The only things that HFCS infiltrates are low-end processed foods which I don't buy anyway. Nicer brands of products use real sugar, as does any competent home cook.

>> Like are there products that ignore that in high dosage health problematic stuff in favour of normal sugar that you don't have to pay double for?
Yes. They are slightly more expensive than the cheapo brands but not by much. HFCS is only an issue if you buy low-end processed food. To continue OP's example, Heinz Ketchup made without HFCS is on the shelf right next to the normal one. At my local supermarket the prices are $2.78 for a 32 oz bottle of standard Heinz ketchup, or $3.46 for the same size bottle of "Simply Heinz", which is both organic and has no HFCS.

>> No.11910849

>>11910591
>>11910612
>>11910631
>americans have to be careful or they get poisoned
do you guys really do this?

>> No.11910909

>>11910591
Not really much difference between corn syrup and sugar beet in something as strong tasting as ketchup. The rest of the differences are just different labelling standards.

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>> No.11910953

>>11910929
what language are you speaking right now? :^)

>> No.11910954

>>11910843
Yeah the sugar tariff is not really an issue, except the fact that it drives Jew-companies to formulate everything with corn syrup instead.
I still buy five pounds of sugar for like $3. Its not expensive.

>> No.11910976

American 'food' is merely a vehicle for the corn industry to dispose of their stock

>> No.11910980

>>11910591
They use the same ingredients though.
The UK's labeling system just doesn't require them to be autistically specific about it.

>> No.11910989

>>11910980
sugar definitely means not corn syrup.

>> No.11911045

>>11910980

In the EU "sugar" on labels does not mean "one of the substances from the chemical group of that name" but specifcally saccharose/sucrose. It's the normed legal trival name for it.

>> No.11911048

>>11910809
you do realize nearly everyone outside of america sees your president as a joke? it has very little to do with political affiliation and more to do with how silly he looks

>> No.11911055

>>11910591
>Spirit vinegar

You Brits are eating fucking ghosts, dude.

>> No.11911074

>>11910591
Yeah we do which is why we have the freedom to buy either the product full of unnecessary shit or the one without unlike your tyrannical government who only lets you pick what they deem is "healthy".

>> No.11911080

>>11910953
Inglés.

>> No.11911094

>>11910612
Where do they harvest the goodness?

>> No.11911099

>>11911055
Underrated

>> No.11911145

>>11910833
no.no.no.no. organic means you can use organic pesticide and fertiliser.

>> No.11911215

>>11911048
>WE WANT THE GLOBALIST NIGGER THAT HATES THE US AND KISSES OUR ASS BACK REEEEEEEEEEEE
Lol, fuck off.

>> No.11911221

>>11910591
They're basically the same thing. Natural flavoring is the same as extracts. It's just different labeling laws. If anything the US version is more exacting.
HFCS isn't any worse for you than sugar, though I do prefer the taste of cane sugar.

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>>11910591
>he fell for the "HFCS is inherently worse for you than sugar" meme

>> No.11911281

>>11910631
All "organic" means is that the company pay the feds 50k a year to be certified

>> No.11911297

>>11910591
No.

>> No.11911328

>>11910591
after Brexit, the UK version will become exactly like the American version

>> No.11911384

Wait... Do Americans??! Hahhahahahahahaha! Epic Britan comedy. Stupid toothy assholes.

>> No.11911395

>>11911223
>having 3 hands and only 2 gloves

>> No.11911404

threads like this really hammer home how weak europe is on a mental level
their food has to be perfectly safe, everything has to be base 10 or it's too hard to think about, spoons are against the law
just pathetic

>> No.11911411

>>11911223
It is,

>> No.11911417

>>11911404
>perfectly safe
>no cheap ass substitutes
Brainlet

>> No.11911419

>>11911328
after Brexit, the EU will collapse and food will become exactly like the Holodomor version

>> No.11911425

>>11911419
Pathetic desu

>> No.11911564

>>11910764
Are you actually retarded or are yup just pretending?

>> No.11911588

>>11911048
do you realize nobody in america even thinks about your president at all?
keep being irrelevant

>> No.11911603

>>11910753
How often do you drink a whole bottle of ketchup?

>> No.11911606

>>11910654
wouldnt Monstanto shill that, i mean their GMO's won't need fertilizers or pesticdes

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Out of my way niggers

>> No.11911816

>>11910642
You're confusing "organic" with "natural." It's debatable whether organic products are better but there are certain standards that need to be met before something can be called organic.

>> No.11911847

>>11910631
based trader joes poster

>> No.11911865

>>11911622
Based canuckposter

>> No.11911867

>>11910591
As a guitarist, I care.

>> No.11912077

>>11911622
this tasted like shit

>> No.11912221

>>11910691
It does not crystalize, unlike sugar

>> No.11912357

ketchup is disgusting. it doesn't even taste like tomato. it's basically just vinegar flavored candy syrup with red coloring.

>> No.11912377

Both have the same shit in them, the UK government just allows companies to lie about what's in their product.